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Woman arrested for racist gym outburst

2012-03-09 09:40

Richards Bay - A woman spent a night in jail after she allegedly used a racial slur against a black man at a gym - an accusation the accused allegedly doesn’t deny and for which she has already apologised.

Ashika Ramdeen, 39, appeared in court in Richards Bay on Thursday after the incident at the Virgin Active gym in the North Coast town on Wednesday evening.

The incident happened after the victim, a local lawyer, told Ramdeen she had jumped the queue at the super circuit, which involves doing a series of exercises in a particular order using specific equipment in a short amount of time.

According to the victim, Jabulani Cebekhulu, 34, Ramdeen wasn’t following commonly accepted circuit protocol.

Angry


“There is a procedure on the super circuit. [The accused] had jumped the queue. I asked her to move as it was my turn to use a machine she was seated at, but she refused and said it was ‘her right’ to use what and when she liked. She eventually said 'Kaffirs will always be kaffirs', to which I responded: ‘Why are you racially abusing me, why are you calling me a kaffir?'."

He alleged she replied “You stupid kaffir”, and then walked off.

“I went straight to the police and laid a charge. It was only when I got home that I realised how much the incident had affected me; I couldn’t sleep. I was so angry. We are trying to build this country. We cannot accept this type of behaviour,” said Cebekhulu.

Ramdeen, who works for Exxaro KZN Sands, a subsidiary of Exxaro Group, which is South Africa’s largest BEE mining conglomerate, was arrested outside the gym shortly afterwards and held overnight. She is facing a charge of crimen injuria.

Ramdeen’s husband, Nakesh, said his wife was aware of what she had said and that she was deeply apologetic.

“My wife is suffering from stress, has recently developed a heart condition, has diabetes and is on a lot of medication, including anti-depressants. She can only use certain equipment at the gym because of her condition and is suffering from post-traumatic stress. She hasn’t gone to work in three weeks.

“What she said was completely out of character. She is sorry. We have lived in Zululand for 23 years and we love it here. She is certainly not a racist. We have friends from various racial groups,” said Nakesh.

Virgin Active said in a statement Ramdeen’s contract had been suspended with immediate effect.

Other racist incidents


Managing director of Virgin Active in South Africa, Ross Faragher-Thomas, said disputes between members were treated very seriously.

“We are committed to creating a safe and supportive environment for all our members. In the event of any member’s misconduct a hearing is called which could, and has in the past, resulted in members being suspended or expelled.”

Faragher-Thomas said the Richards Bay incident was reported to the manager on duty immediately and both members attended a meeting at the club where Ramdeen apparently made an apology.

The court matter has been postponed to March 14 for further investigation as two more statements are necessary from employees of the gym group.

Virgin Active has already been required to extinguish two racial incidents this year, both in Gauteng and involving white men. On December 31 a black woman was allegedly called “a bloody kaffir” at its Sandton gym and in February a black man was called a “boy” and told that black people shouldn’t try to control everything at the Sunninghill gym.

In the latter case the accused was banned from all Virgin Active gyms and Virgin boss Sir Richard Branson issued a statement: “We do not condone any form of discrimination, especially racism.”

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Comments
  • Renate - 2012-03-09 09:46

    WHY is this even News?

      Bryan - 2012-03-09 10:10

      @Nokwazi.. accomodated us in your country??? I have 2 words for you after making that comment, I cant say the first word but the second one is OFF...!!!

      lindz.kok - 2012-03-09 10:13

      nokwazi you should be thrown in jail for that plainly racist comment. the acused was indian firstly and secondly apoligised. and thirdly she was heavely medicated and its natural to think she might of had some kind of breakdown at the time. i have been racialy insulted 3 times in public befor twice has been at home afairs waiting in line, but i shruged it off.

      Goose - 2012-03-09 10:14

      Nokwazi That's just the problem in SA. SA is not YOUR country. And furthermore, it is common knowledge that blacks generally hate whites. I deal with tons of people daily through work and it is open knowledge that many blacks actively teach their kids to hate whites and be racist. So please, drop the angel persona. We are ALL racist in this country to a greater or lesser extent. You are only fooling yourself and by your comments, you are as racist as that Indian woman in the article. Seriously dude...your comment about accommodating us whites in SA is pathetic.

      Shaun.groenewald - 2012-03-09 10:15

      @Nokwazi, forgave us? HAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

      Mark - 2012-03-09 10:21

      @Renate - Why should it not be news? Do racist insults not shock you, or do you actually condone what this lady said. Instead of making such a juvenile comment you should rather give your reasons why this should NOT make the news.

      Tshifhiwa - 2012-03-09 10:23

      @Nokwazi this country belongs to us all, black, white Coloureds and Indians we built it together.

      Freddie - 2012-03-09 10:24

      Nokwazi, this incident is absolutely inexcusable and she should be punished. Likewise your comment is equally racist and you should seriously examine your attitude to others. "Accomodated" whites?? What absolute nonsense, all race groups are part of this country, furthermore this incident had nothing to do with whites so why would you bring that up? Unless that huge racist chip on your shoulder is affecting your reasoning abilities.

      Peter-Peter - 2012-03-09 10:25

      Renate, the media drives racism. Its sensationalist rubbish. Had this event gone by without a write-up, the News24 would have had to publish some more corruption news about the government. People would still be trying to fight for a peaceful SA, and all would had gone by un-heard of...BUT because SA media is driven by the fact that racism is alive and well, they will publish this story to get the crowds up in arms and get views. its disgusting what happened, but FFS NEWS24! you really are a bunch of mindless racist journalists spewing out hatred propaganda and forcing division. You ARE the knife that divides us!

      siya.jr - 2012-03-09 10:31

      @NOKWAZI.......U DUMP GIRL.

      Martin - 2012-03-09 10:49

      wotzisname.....people can call me anything they like, i really dont give a cr@p, been called worse than a "k" by my own peers growing up. insults do not effect me at all.

      Linda - 2012-03-09 10:49

      @Nokwazi really what nonsense accomodate us whites in YOUR country I thought the country belonged to all of us - you are the racist and forgave us oh what a laught you are seriously ignorant.

      John - 2012-03-09 10:53

      @ Nokwazi: What an absolute twat you are.

      Peter-Peter - 2012-03-09 10:57

      Mzwandile...the story is of INDIAN and BLACK...what that dumb s*** said, was COMPLETELY out of line and blatant racism, so you too, get off your high horse! Whats done is done, we cant change the past, so EFFING LET IT GO! and move on!

      Moss - 2012-03-09 11:16

      Because you took time to read and comment idiot!!!

      Mzwandile - 2012-03-09 11:23

      @ Peter-Peter. First, I am only saying these are facts and therefore Nokwezi cannot be called a racist when she is raising the facts. You know there is a subject called "Geskidenes" which deals with historical facts. People must be free to talk about that, they must not be censored. Secondly I agree with you whole heartedly that we cannot dwell on the past but what is concerning is when the past raises its ugly head, when some pockets of white people still crave for the past and when we raise that we are called racists. I wonder then who is the real racist.

      Martin - 2012-03-09 11:29

      MIKE is 100% CORRECT..... we have a 1 trillion budget, they dont have to use it to pay for freeways, we are being raped on fuel levvies, but i can promise 1% of that trillion wont be filtered towards helping the poor

      Mzwandile - 2012-03-09 11:59

      @Mike amd Martin - seeing that you are changing the subject I beg to respond to your comments. First Mike the budget is not 1trllion that is the projection for the 2013/2014 financial year, please go and read Pravins speech of you care. This correction might sound trivail but the reason to correct is that more often people commenting here like to distort the true and the facts and that misled other readers. Martin I hoped you would have been specific about how long (years) it took Europe to recover from the WW and what was the extent of the damage cause by the war. That comparison is totally flawed because the crisis that Europe faced is not similar to our peoblems. Maybe coming back home and leave Europe. What, how and how long did it take for the Nationalist under leadership of Jan Smuts, Hendrick Verweod and others to address the issue of Afrikaaners (power white problem). If we can be allowed to use the same methods to solve the "power Blacks" problems of our country would solved it overnight, but our consitution won't allow us. That is the constitution that the ANC agreed on and yet you are not even greatful to them to have created protection cluases to accomodate Whites. I still maintain that the issue here is that some pockets of Whites still crave for apartheid where blacks are inferior to whites. Whether you call me racist it does not matter the fact of the matter you know what I am saying is true

      dave.j.colquhoun - 2012-03-09 12:30

      @ Nokwazi. I cannot believe that you would be so stupid as to spew your racist inclinations out loud in a public forum. You, and all your comrades didn't accomodate us in your country. It was Nelso Mandela who averted what cold have been a very brutal war in South Africa by acknowledging that each and every one of us has a right to be a South African. It is people like you who are constantly fuelling the fires of racism in our land. If anything, we actually accomodated you pre 1994 by accepting the referendum to bring about change in this country to avery a civil war. Get off your high and mighty horse you racist fool!!!

      Herman - 2012-03-09 12:38

      @roman, o yes this is just as much my country as it is anyones born here and being productive. If you are one of those consumers standing open hand and begging for the whites to help you and the same time using your arrogant attitude on them, then you are the one that doesnt belong. This is my country. I was born here. I am contributing in many ways. So, screw you.

      Mzwandile - 2012-03-09 12:45

      @Mike. First my apologies, The comments about a 1 trillion are for Martin. Its unfortunate that you deliberately change my phrase to read ALL WHITES, when pocket really means FEW in this context, to suit your racist attitude and prejudice. Secondly you riased the issue about Europe's recovery and when pressed and challenged you evade it and rather flow into tired media driven topic of corruption. Actually I cannot expect you to intelligently use your mind to wholestically look at ways and means of how SA can solve the poor Black problem because it is not in your interest. What is in your interest is the contrary. Just for record purpose education is not a domain and monopoly for only Whites and if any Black person argue with a White therefore he is not educated. In this platform we argue issue and we agree and disagree. This is not a beorewors braai were pouulist ideas are indoctrinated. I fought agaist racism and went jail for. I wonder can you say the same except to be proud of torturing, imprisoning, persecuting and killing those that fought against racism and for their freedom.

      Mzwandile - 2012-03-09 13:34

      @ Mike - as invited I watched the video. After watch it reminded me of what Dr Sach Cooper (An internationally reknown psychologist) said about a mind of a racist, he said aracist will confine itself with all the materials that support his prejudice. Prove to me that you are not a racist please read expensively on aother internally reknown human right activities, Rev Martin Luther King, Rev Jessie Jackson. Closer home Rev Trevor Huddlestone, Dr Beyers Naude. I rest my case

      Mano-Lee - 2012-03-09 13:44

      @Nokwazi - actually you are partly right about the tea and madam thing. However, i'd prefer a white tea lady to a black.

      Deon - 2012-03-09 13:52

      We sure miss Malema?

      theO rAcLe - 2012-03-09 14:08

      I finish it off for you.....LIKE HELL WE SURE MISS MALEMA...

  • JasonEye - 2012-03-09 09:48

    GYMS are bad places, they make us do bad things, that's why i stay out of them. Rather be fat and happy lol

      The-Azanian - 2012-03-09 09:58

      lol

      Marion - 2012-03-09 09:58

      Amen to that JasonEye. :-)))

      Given - 2012-03-09 10:16

      Hahahaha jason uv just finished me,ur just lazy,so am i.lol uv just given me a reason to continue not going to gym.lol Jason for president!

      cosmos.ndebele - 2012-03-09 10:26

      Nice one

      jowza1 - 2012-03-09 10:28

      looks like the fit and lean people need anger management classes first

      Mark - 2012-03-09 10:28

      When I go to gym I go to exercise and build up a sweat to get rid of all that tension and excess energy I have built up during the day. When I leave the gym I feel tired and sweaty and and have a relaxed buzz going on. There is no greater drug than your own naturally produced endorphins that are released during exercise. So for me and many other people the Gym is a great place. :)

      Poloyatonki - 2012-03-09 10:36

      hahahahaha hahaha ahahaha Fat and Happy, I guess this explains why we have fat parliamentarians.

      jowza1 - 2012-03-09 10:39

      well mark looks like some people produce angry endorfins

      Kerry - 2012-03-09 10:41

      GIVE THAT MAN A BELLS!

  • heatherlynn.roberts - 2012-03-09 09:49

    Quick to name and shame, but REAL criminals get to cover their faces!!!

      Mark - 2012-03-09 10:30

      So are you condoning this racist insult?

  • Andrew - 2012-03-09 09:52

    All gym members should go through an induction/ introductio at the gym they are joining - this is a common problem....Note to Virgin Active

      Kala - 2012-03-09 10:01

      @Andrew. I agree but like most big business it's all about the money and how many members they can recruit.

      Mark - 2012-03-09 14:25

      Andrew, I agree with you. Virgin Active must share some blame. They allow endless numbers to join each gym, which results in serious over-crowding (at popular times) leading to aggro. I have witnessed it on numerous occasions. Also selfish individuals are "allowed" to hog certain equipment. Unfortunately some tend to resort to racist, sexist, ageist, homophobic etc. slurs in these circumstances.

  • Francois Petzer - 2012-03-09 09:57

    atleast this time there aint no pink,pale or white people involved.

      Given - 2012-03-09 10:18

      Hahahaha

      Louanne - 2012-03-09 10:37

      If there where it would have made world news!!

      Moss - 2012-03-09 11:13

      So what?

  • antheahartzenberg - 2012-03-09 09:58

    Disgusting. And Sad. Mostly sad. The hatreds we harbour. Really.

  • seath1 - 2012-03-09 10:00

    Hope she stays in jail for quite a while !!!!

      Given - 2012-03-09 10:19

      Lol maybe she'll recover from whatever ailment shes suffering from

      owamin1 - 2012-03-09 10:31

      I agree. The menu in jail will certainly not worsen her diabetes and heart. All that oil in the curry can't be good for her.

      Jacqui - 2012-03-09 12:06

      Seath, stay in jail for a while. Why did she rape someone?.

  • Hunter - 2012-03-09 10:00

    Why name Exxaro? They have nothing to do with the incident - it's not like her employer has made her say what she said.

      Given - 2012-03-09 10:20

      My question exactly

      Marion - 2012-03-09 10:29

      I think the reason they brought the company into it is 'cos she works for one of SA's largest BEE mining conglomerates. How can you work for a BEE company and have racist 'tendencies' as some people would call it.

      Merven - 2012-03-09 11:15

      N24 try to get her fired with all the bad publicity. They always got their own agenda.

      TBlogger - 2012-03-09 12:25

      Yeah, I didn't think that was fair towards Exxaro. What you do in your own time, out of office should not affect your employer. Bad journalism.

  • Hangwani - 2012-03-09 10:00

    Pressing the delete button helps, dont even allow the thing to be in your recycle bin. May be the word has got some sweetness in it, wonder why people like it so much.

      Marion - 2012-03-09 10:31

      Hangwani, I think people who do this in public are still using the word liberally in private and until they stop doing that then 'slips of the lip' are going to happen 'cos they are only saying what they live in private and what is deeply embedded in the subconcious. Jeez, don't know if I've expressed that well, but hope you get the gist of it.

  • Olivia - 2012-03-09 10:01

    VA...the place where they go to relieve their racial frustrations! lol!!

  • richard.hipkin - 2012-03-09 10:01

    I have the same problem with gym users who love coming into the super circuit to use one machine... piss off, go find another machine outside of the super circuit, those machines are not for once off use for you to sit at and do a 3 x 10 rep in 20 minutes... But I wouldn't use profanity or racial remarks to vent my frustration at the person, that is just ill breeding.

      Donna - 2012-03-09 10:17

      lol........... or could it be in-breeding hill-billy style?

      Omrisho - 2012-03-09 10:39

      PB... if gym staff where more diligent in ensuring their customers abide by the rules, yes?

      Jou - 2012-03-09 11:10

      PointBlank we don't care what irks you. Get anger management counselling.

      richard.hipkin - 2012-03-09 11:15

      @Joumaseperd, but you cared enough to comment... *sigh* TGIF... I can escape stupid people for a few days... bliss.

      richard.hipkin - 2012-03-09 11:17

      @Omrisho, I agree but there is a sign explaining to people how the circuit works, but judging by the many commenters here not many people read, let alone read an instruction sheet.

      Jou - 2012-03-09 11:21

      You carry on like a spoilt teenage girl.

      richard.hipkin - 2012-03-09 11:39

      And you acting like a gay stalker..

      TBlogger - 2012-03-09 12:27

      you guys are funny! Thanks for the chuckle :)

      RealNikka - 2012-03-09 14:59

      LMAO LOL Pointblank and Joumase...

  • zukiswa.sidlayi - 2012-03-09 10:03

    Ouch!

  • Wesley - 2012-03-09 10:03

    White people mention that word and u are a racist, yet the amount of racial slurs they throw at the white people in their own language is ridiculous, but if u really wanna make it uneasy, reply back, they hate it!!!!

      Nonku Butelezi - 2012-03-09 10:52

      Well looking at the woman's surname I'm assuming that she is indian.

      Marion - 2012-03-09 11:34

      @Nonku - I think we've all made that assumption. But we've possibly all made a wrong assumption. Look at Judy Sexwale-should we automatically assume she is black?

      Freddie - 2012-03-09 11:47

      Marion, Ashika is also an Indian name.

      JJ - 2012-03-09 12:22

      Do you speak the language or just assume because you can't understand? Just because another language is spoken in front of you doesn't mean it's about you...

      Marion - 2012-03-09 12:36

      @Freddie - oooooppppppssss. Sorry.

  • The-Azanian - 2012-03-09 10:04

    Just another normal day in mzansi where the word love doesn't exist in our half-brained skulls...more like we are drifting backwards to dark days where the other race would lay a claim against you just for looking at them.

  • Moss - 2012-03-09 10:04

    Seems like racist are ahead to gym in tones,Soon we gonna have more physical racist fights...

  • Clarence - 2012-03-09 10:06

    LOL, so why is the husband telling us about her diabetes and heart condition? She's already pulling a Shaik.

      TBlogger - 2012-03-09 12:32

      Seeking public sympathy and trying to justify why she lashed out all the racial insults.. Can diabetes and a heart condition cause that though? Lol, I know stress could probably make you tick a bit but surely someone suffering from diabetes and heart condition should want to stay calm in order not to worsen the conditions.....

  • blake.faulkner1 - 2012-03-09 10:07

    I don't believe or condone the breaking of laws or racial behaviour.,... but did the person need to be arrested for it and spend a night in jail,,,NO!!! that person should have been charged and made to appear in court, WOW!!! its amazing how some laws are well policed but see someone peeing on the side of the road or littering and that is just ignored ... at least lets get some consistency in applying the rule of law in this country.

      Christian J Denyschen - 2012-03-09 10:21

      its the anc that makes us all white, black colored and indian racist, just as the previous government thought us 2 be racist. we aren't born 2 hate!

  • Thoka - 2012-03-09 10:10

    is this latest fashion statement??? wondering

  • Hoosen Essa - 2012-03-09 10:12

    must have been the steroids :P

  • siya.jr - 2012-03-09 10:13

    Honestly this is depressing.....somedays I wish I don't read this kind of news.

      Pam - 2012-03-09 10:22

      Don't hold your breath

      Deon - 2012-03-09 10:33

      dont worry bro, with the way all races of kids are going to the same school etc, the generation of racists is dying off?

  • Tugwana - 2012-03-09 10:16

    It's a case a pot calling the kettle black. But the surname is of Indian race but won't make her an Indian. She could be married to an Indian. I feel sorry for the husband. I don't remember any Indian referring to black South African in a derogatoru manner.

      Given - 2012-03-09 10:25

      *cough cough*i swear ur still drunk from last nights tequilla struee

      Michael - 2012-03-09 10:27

      Ghandi!

      Freddie - 2012-03-09 11:24

      Ashika is an indian name.

      TBlogger - 2012-03-09 12:35

      Yep Ashika is very much indian.. and there are numerous indians (not all) who i have heard referring to black south africans in a derogatory manner.

  • Patrick Craw - 2012-03-09 10:17

    good. . .racism must stop no matter what colour you are!!

      siya.jr - 2012-03-09 10:34

      I fully agree with you.

  • lisa.evansdominick - 2012-03-09 10:18

    If Virgin Active would educate members and enforce the super circuit rules and protocol, this sort of thing would not happen. We have the exact same problem at our gym where people come and want to do sets of excercises on the super circuit. My husband has reported it to management on various occasions and the gym does nothing...

      jowza1 - 2012-03-09 11:20

      when virgins get active,they must be properly taught

      Jacqui - 2012-03-09 12:17

      Heiko, no it's not Afrikaans, it's Arab.

      Riad - 2012-03-09 13:41

      @Jaqcqui: Kafir (Arabic: ???? kafir; plural ????? kuffar) is an Arabic term used in a Islamic doctrinal sense, usually translated as "unbeliever" or "disbeliever". The term refers to a person who rejects God or who hides, denies, or covers the "truth". So the K word used by this Active Vigins member is not the same.......

  • jody.beggs - 2012-03-09 10:19

    I wonder what would happen if I reported all the times I was called "umlungu" to the cops? Would they really give a cr@p ? Racism should work both ways ! Damn the man.

      Mesulie Vince' Ntombela - 2012-03-09 10:21

      Umlungu is a white person in zulu you stupid...

      Abo Bunny Zizi - 2012-03-09 10:25

      You can't be serious. Are you that ignorant? Umlungu isn't a derogatory term genius

      jody.beggs - 2012-03-09 10:26

      @Mesulie Vince' Ntombela to you maybe but to me its like calling you the "k-word" definition of the "k-word" : A term used to describe an uncultured person with no religious believes of any kind. Often used as a derogatory term to describe African People. definition of the "umlungu" : White person. Used in Southern Africa by Black people. Contemptuous and offensive. Damn the man.

      Garth - 2012-03-09 10:36

      I agree with Jody. For all your sugaring up of the word, its origins remain: `white scum from the sea', as per the earliest translation of the word as per Flynn, 1820's. Do your research; look up his name and his association with King Shaka. Then come back and tell us what a `nice' word it is. How's it go Jody? Damn the lie!

      Nonku Butelezi - 2012-03-09 10:39

      Jody, I don't know where you got that definition but it is wrong. Umlungu is not to insult anyone, umlungu is a white person

      Mesulie Vince' Ntombela - 2012-03-09 10:47

      Eish im sori 4 calling you stupid man. And no man umlungu is white person dude, and we aint insulting u...if u do not want to be refered to as umlungu in zulu, which 1 do u prefer???

      Nonku Butelezi - 2012-03-09 10:49

      Garth you talking 1820

      Eric - 2012-03-09 10:54

      @Jody and do you know that in other Bantu languages the word Mlungu actually means God and has variations murungu/ muzungu in Malawi and Mozambique. So please dont trivialise racism.

      John - 2012-03-09 10:55

      LOL Nonku Butelezi - and Heiku is talking pre 1994? Whats you point?

      Bonga - 2012-03-09 10:56

      But Jodi really?? Umlungu A Zulu word used in South Africa meaning 'white person' Kaf·fir /'kæf?r, 'k?f?r/ Show Spelled[kaf-er, kah-fer] Show IPA noun, plural -firs, ( especially collectively ) -fir. 1. Disparaging and Offensive . (in South Africa) a black person: originally used of the Xhosa people only.

      jody.beggs - 2012-03-09 11:19

      @Bonga fine when you say , "umlungu woza." how can I answer ?: 1: "No way black man." 2: "Whatever nigg@." 3: "Sure boy I'll be there in a minute." 4: "What for febeh?" Please select the appropriate answer ? Damn the man.

      richard.hipkin - 2012-03-09 11:21

      I love how white people are trying to tell black people the true meaning of black words...lol!! Umlungu is NOT a derogatory name, you only think it is because you have been told it is..

      jody.beggs - 2012-03-09 11:29

      @PointBlank that's rich who actually started documenting South African history ? I don't remember Shaka writing or reading any books !

      richard.hipkin - 2012-03-09 11:44

      @jody, huh? Sorry, repeat that, not understanding.

      richard.hipkin - 2012-03-09 11:45

      @jody, the answer you looking for is 1.

      jody.beggs - 2012-03-09 11:58

      @PointBlank actually no. 3 are racist by saying black or boy and the other is meant as an insult! Correct Answers ?: 1: "No way man." 2: "Whatever man." 3: "Sure dude I'll be there in a minute." 4: "What for sir?" The extra descriptors make it racist like "umlumgu". Damn the man.

      Bonga - 2012-03-09 12:06

      jody.beggs Bonga: mlungu woza. jody.beggs: No way black man.

      richard.hipkin - 2012-03-09 12:07

      @jody, you damning too much and losing the ability to reason.. Your list has changed..

      jody.beggs - 2012-03-09 12:07

      @Bonga but its racist ?

      jody.beggs - 2012-03-09 12:12

      @PointBlank and you have your head in your @rse! Or don't you mind being racist ? Damn the man.

      richard.hipkin - 2012-03-09 12:43

      @jody, what the hell are you on about? We trying to educate you in the word umlungu but you clearly too defensive to grasp it. Are you one of those who hate being wrong and when pointed out you get insulting? How does this now make me the racist? Or have my head up my @rse?? Tut tut... *Sigh* Roll on 4 o clock!!

  • Charene - 2012-03-09 10:20

    so statistically you are more likely to end up in prison for racial slurs (unless you not ANC or Malema) than murdr and rape, wow.

      The-Azanian - 2012-03-09 10:34

      truth...we don't need an experiment to prove that.

  • Craig - 2012-03-09 10:21

    I do not condone the racist "attack" however i find it amazing that the police respond so fast, yet in many other instances (real emergencies) we wait and wait....

      Anastasia - 2012-03-09 10:29

      It's all about who you know. Lawyers spend plent of time at police stations getting documents commissioned, and as such, are frequently on first name and friendly basis with quite a few officers in their areas. If the complaint is valid, they would be reasonably happy to help out.

  • alanaR.rodriguez - 2012-03-09 10:21

    So if you use the K word you get arrested, but if you sing shoot the boer it's OK...?!?!?! Double standards... and then we wonder WHY PEOPLE ARE ANGRY! SA is a ticking time bomb!!!

  • pmbadenhorst - 2012-03-09 10:23

    good on him for laying the charge ,.... and i dont buy all her lame excuses

      Jacqui - 2012-03-09 12:21

      pmbadenhorst, you don't have to buy her 'lame' excuses. Where you there?.

  • RealNikka - 2012-03-09 10:24

    I would feel more safe in an AWB meeting than Virgin active lately damn..whats wrong with people

      Prudence Pelembe - 2012-03-09 10:43

      Hahaha bloody good one

      Mike - 2012-03-09 11:39

      The AWB will just tie you to a bakkie and drag you around town, at virgin active they PUSH IN FRONT OF YOU and call you racist names!!! But really, what she did was uneccasary and inexcusable. But lets be honest, we all have outbursts at times, doesnt make us racist, like when a black guy cuts you off in traffic and you already stressed and the resulting outburst 'you dumb f@%$ing d@rkie! or something, then get to work and see the hot black receptionist that makes your day everyday. And any person of any race thats not racist that says they dont have times like that is lying, its human nature.

      Lisa - 2012-03-09 13:59

      You are legendary, RealNikka! I have a smile from ear to ear!

      Deus - 2012-03-09 15:13

      true that

  • Anastasia - 2012-03-09 10:26

    Why was the woman's employer named? It bears no relevance to the incident? If Exxaro has smart lawyers, they should be pressing charges at this point. Bringing a company's name into disrepute, just for the sake of selling a unrelated story is pretty shoddy behaviour by the media. Again.

  • Dieter - 2012-03-09 10:26

    Malema called Indians "coolies" and nothing happened ... i understand her anger and why she used that word ....

      Nonku Butelezi - 2012-03-09 10:32

      Malema said it, not Cebekhulu.

      jowza1 - 2012-03-09 10:36

      two wrongs dont make a right,dieter

      JohncarlosBiza - 2012-03-09 10:57

      He was charged for it, idiot. Dumb reasoning to begin with.

      richard.hipkin - 2012-03-09 11:24

      @JohncarlosBiza, 99% of people here use dumb reasoning, it is the cesspool of dumb reasoning..

      Mike - 2012-03-09 11:41

      @jowza, a chinese couple, mr and mrs wong, gave birth to their first child, who was completelely white and european. just goes to show, two wongs make a white lmao

      jowza1 - 2012-03-09 11:43

      lol.mike.i knew the chinese were behind all this

      Tom - 2012-03-09 11:51

      @ Dieter.......Malema apologised and his apology was accepted........end of story.

      Merven - 2012-03-09 13:18

      @Tom, and so did she.

  • Rupert - 2012-03-09 10:27

    Since when is Racial slur an offence you can be arrested for.......??

      Prudence Pelembe - 2012-03-09 10:42

      Try that in the UK too against a black person and that person reports... You will end up in jail :)

      eradingoana - 2012-03-09 10:46

      When did you arrive in the country anyway because you dont sound like an original citizen knowing SA Laws?

      Morgan - 2012-03-09 11:03

      since Staan en kyk was banned in this country.

      Jacqui - 2012-03-09 12:24

      Prudence, yes you will be arrested in the U.K. But when a black call a white derogatory names, no action will be taken. It is called selective hypocrisy.

  • Maud - 2012-03-09 10:30

    How come the cops are there, before she leaves the gym? Such quick response! Wow! But let us be raped, murdered, etc in our homes, then there is no cops to be found anywhere! I don't condone name calling, but blacks are the first who have to admit they are guilty as well! I am coloured and get attached by blacks too. What about Julius Malema's hate speech song? What's good for the goose is good for the gander. We will never be one country till things are equal. Right now they are not. For me someone killing or raping is way more important than what you call me. Call me what you want - just don't kill or rape me. Today it works the other way around.

  • Ndira - 2012-03-09 10:30

    its funny how people who are accused of being racist start counting how many black friends they have......laying a charge against a racist fool wont change anything, a racist will remain a racist

      Prudence Pelembe - 2012-03-09 11:02

      Well said lol

  • HowardThackeryEsq - 2012-03-09 10:33

    "In the latter case the accused was banned from all Virgin Active gyms and Virgin boss Sir Richard Branson issued a statement: “We do not condone any form of discrimination, especially racism.” Does VA subcribe to the policy of BEE for their suppliers ? Isnt BEE a form of discrimination based on race ?

      Ndira - 2012-03-09 10:50

      and afriforum?

      HowardThackeryEsq - 2012-03-09 11:17

      Afriforum is not a law

      Cosmic - 2012-03-09 11:46

      @Ndira Afriforum does not dicriminate agains anyone based on race, so what about them?

  • Emily-Jane Elson - 2012-03-09 10:35

    I am not condoning what she did, I would be livid too! But what amazes me is that we get arrested for racial slur but to get a rapist, murderer etc into jail is harder? Mind blowing.. What u want to ask though, is that if I'm called "Mlungu" does that count as racial slur? It IS a derogatory term isn't it?

      Nkanyiso Llewelyn Sosibo-Rowthe - 2012-03-09 10:39

      Mlungu is a zulu word for a white person . It has no derogatory racial connotations .

      Garth - 2012-03-09 10:45

      For all your sugaring up of the word, its origins remain: `white scum from the sea', as per the earliest translation of the word as per Flynn, 1820's. Do your research; look up his name and his association with King Shaka. Then come back and tell us what a `nice' word it is.

      Theo - 2012-03-09 10:46

      Nkanyiso Llewelyn Sosibo-Rowthe - 'K.....s' is a English or Afrikaans word for a black person. Please explain the difference to me.

      Omrisho - 2012-03-09 10:48

      jody.beggs - March 9, 2012 at 10:26 Report comment @Mesulie Vince' Ntombela to you maybe but to me its like calling you the "k-word" definition of the "k-word" : A term used to describe an uncultured person with no religious believes of any kind. Often used as a derogatory term to describe African People. definition of the "umlungu" : White person. Used in Southern Africa by Black people. Contemptuous and offensive. Damn the man.

      Eric - 2012-03-09 10:59

      @Emily, I dont agree because in other bantu languages that word actually means God. So be glad the natives thought you were gods.

      richard.hipkin - 2012-03-09 11:26

      @Theo, honestly?? Wow...

  • HiJack - 2012-03-09 10:37

    Any Race insulting blacks = Racism. Blacks insulting any race = Xenophobia. Cry me a river.

  • stuart.bigmore - 2012-03-09 10:38

    Dear Virgin Active, despite having been robbed my locker broken and clothes and keys stolen on TWO occassions nobody called the cops i had to accept this is part of gym life. However this has affected me as a person because i blame you for the incidents under your control. So when you force 2000 members into a gym with no membership limit,scrutiny or even a thought for the overstressed machinery and air conditioning, its like forcing animals into an overcrowded space,someones going to get hurt. So i dont blame anybody Virgin Active must learn to limit the members to what the gym was designed for in the first place, and the current overcrowding in many of its gyms is whats causing these problems,they must cure the disease and not the symptons.

  • Marion - 2012-03-09 10:39

    Maybe it's time that everyone takes note of this little scientific fact: Human Genome Project Confirms that "Race" Simply Does Not Exist as a Matter of Biology http://amjca.blogspot.com/2009/04/human-genome-project-confirms-that-race.html Once we can accept that the only race we belong to is the HUMAN RACE, there will be less hatred in this world.

      Deus - 2012-03-09 15:18

      but race does exist, we have all evolved differently. Race exists but racism does not need to exist.

  • Irma - 2012-03-09 10:39

    I guess money doesn't buy class... the gym fees for VA are more than double what I am paying at my gym and everyone gets on so nicely there. I won't be going to Virgin Active anytime soon.

  • Russell - 2012-03-09 10:39

    So if this comment means a night in jail then Shoot the Boer should mean death by hanging.....!Surely

      Theo - 2012-03-09 10:49

      Amen

      Deus - 2012-03-09 15:18

      yeah, but not in our beloved banana republic

  • theovnk - 2012-03-09 10:40

    The reason I stopped going to gym was that everyone was sweating all over the equipment, and not cleaning up after them. Yuck! Also, I got the flu every year while attending gym. Too much goggos floating around. I go for brisk walks everyday, nice fresh air and for free!

      Marion - 2012-03-09 11:04

      As some say, 'give that man a bells'...

      Merven - 2012-03-09 13:25

      Rather, give that man Super Cs'

  • Mandlaénkosi - 2012-03-09 10:40

    This woman deserved what she got.Sad thing is one would assume being of indian origin and having been victim of similar prejudices as a people,She would know better.I like white/indian people but the bad apples spoil the party.I consider myself as part of the new generation that celebrates our differences instead of using them for otherwise backward and destructive purposes.

  • Hoosen Essa - 2012-03-09 10:40

    the media really needs to consider the implications of their actions, punish this woman for her actions, she deserve to be punished accordingly. but this is an isolated incident, many indians and whites are not like this. now by airing an isoloted incident such as this will only cause hatred. many of our black counterparts will generalise. these news articles do not provide much except fuel racial hatred. if a group of a particular race conducted racial abuse, then its news worth told to inform the masses, but this is isolated, punish her accordingly but don't inform the masses unless its worth being informed. some1 explain to me how this news article helps us??

      JohncarlosBiza - 2012-03-09 11:04

      I agree...someone who gets it! The media abuses South Africans' feeble and vulnerable psychology, instead of building it up. To show how weak we are: the people commenting here are meant to be the most educated lot, yet they sound like 8 year olds when commenting on racial articles.

      Jacqui - 2012-03-09 12:30

      Let's blame the media again.

      Deus - 2012-03-09 15:20

      one bad apple spoils the basket...eh, something like that

  • eradingoana - 2012-03-09 10:42

    Virgin Active is also racist. How can it suspend the membership instead of terminating it? It must not pretend but be straight. To hell with racists. Husband is just talking defensively while it is not what she might have said. Apology is nothing because she said it. In my view, apology is just to fool the victim.

      betsy.compaan - 2012-03-09 11:15

      If they terminate it they lose money, no matter what happens they want your money and don't really care about any of their members, White, Black, Indian, Colored or Asian. It's a business and they want profit. Maybe it's up to the victim to decide if he forgives her in the end as he was the one that went thru it. I know it's not always easy to forgive others and that a lot of people don't really mean it when they say sorry but we can't go around life keeping so many grudges against every person that makes us angry, you will only let yourself become bitter and suppress your own happiness.

      Jacques - 2012-03-09 13:58

      Like Malema.....

  • angel.moonsamy - 2012-03-09 10:45

    Well Ashika , You hace truly embarassed our proud indian culture Shame On You : To Mr Cebekhule , we the south african indians apologise to you

      SpHa S-Jay Jay-Kay - 2012-03-09 13:59

      Raegan i bet u hv low self esteem the only way you can talk is behind tht computer screen.. Noble gesture by the guy or lady apologising on behalf of the indians, being the bigger man doesnt hurt..

      raegan.mcreed - 2012-03-09 14:40

      @spha, i reside at jhon ross building 2nd floor number 18 , come and see me face to face and we will settle this , actions speak louder than words my boy''..

      raegan.mcreed - 2012-03-09 14:44

      in the city durban mfana..

  • Mandlaénkosi - 2012-03-09 10:48

    Contrary to what some other races believe,not every black person is a Malema lover regardless of the merit in some of his beliefs etc.Quoting him equates to quoting Eugene Terre Blanche at his worst and blaming it on all whites.That wud be stupid

      Freddie - 2012-03-09 10:50

      Well said, neither of them ever spoke on my behalf.

  • Chantelle - 2012-03-09 10:49

    If it where the other way around news 24 wouldn't have published it!!!!! One of my friend where asulted by 2 black men and the paper said they are not gonna publish it!!! THATS THE TRUTH!!!!

      RealNikka - 2012-03-09 11:45

      Chantelle out of curiosity what racial slurs did these two black men use?? or was it pure crime that affect us all?? if that is the case I would suggest you go to the police station madam and opened a case for abuse, Women abuse is something serious...

      Merven - 2012-03-09 13:31

      Chantelle, when a white do something it is racism, if a black do it, it is normal crime. Get with the programme, blacks are incapable of racism.

  • Guelord - 2012-03-09 10:50

    Somebody insulted me @ home affairs; it was painful, after I walked out of the building no one knew I was insulted….I have forgiven her

  • Jan - 2012-03-09 10:50

    Ek het persoonlik nog nooi emosioneel aangeraak as iemad my n BOER genoem het nie..... Ek verstaan nie die probleem nie.... party mense soek net aandag