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Woman shot dead in farm attack

2012-05-02 12:10

Johannesburg - A woman has been shot dead in a farm attack outside Randfontein, Gauteng police said on Wednesday.

"I can confirm there was a farm attack 20 to 25 kilometres outside Randfontein. The woman unfortunately died on the scene from her injuries," said Captain Appel Ernst.

The woman's children, aged 3 and 5, were in the house during the attack at 20:00 on Monday night, and were said to be traumatised.

At the time, the woman's husband was driving back to the house.

Money and guns were stolen.

Beeld newspaper named the woman as Venessa Stafleu, 34, from the farm Doornfontein 2.

Comments
  • Koos - 2012-05-02 12:14

    Just another crime... pfff... RIP and now 2 kids are facing a ever bleaker future with no mother and a country that is hostile towards them. Really sad.

      Ruan - 2012-05-02 12:34

      Still no news from your president,still trying to work out how to cover up the e tolls scandal,,there is definetly looting of the koffers goin on with that deal,,,well malema should still be acountable for this as he still sings kill the boer,,,its time to take action into your own hands people,,oops i forgot the whiteys in SA do not stand together.....so yeah i dunno,the only thing you can do is move to the Western Cape and declare it independent,there is enough farmlands for you to farm there and support an autonomous WC,these hit squads will not back down until more farmers die.....RIP Vennesa and may God be with your husband and children.

      marnalouw - 2012-05-02 13:00

      @Alicia I hope they find and kill them as well! Because if they just put them in jail,and Zuma has his way(which he will), they will just be getting out earlier thanks to his Freedom day crap.

      Tc - 2012-05-02 13:01

      The same old comments with every farm-murder. Nothing will come of it. Nobody cares. Definitely not the plundering ANC. let's just ask 'who is next?' You? Me? Who is next?

      Jacobus - 2012-05-02 13:06

      Just another farm murder. No big deal. Now, poaching rhino, THATS major news. Get in the army, and the game wardens, the sniper rifles and the telescopes... For we cannot let the rhinos die. We can sell licenses to kill rhino and export the horns legally for R1500, but we cannot kill a rhino without that piece of paper... Now murdering a farmer... Not really any reason to call in the cavalry, is there. Is this poor woman number 251 for this year alone? 50 More than the killed rhino. Yet we have interpol working internationally on saving the rhino. Forget about the white ou.

      Ruan - 2012-05-02 13:13

      @ Sazi,,,,,stage 6 or 7 of GENOCIDE is DENIAL

      Omo - 2012-05-02 13:20

      It is really sad indeed. As a foreigner living SA for a few years now ,i can not deny that i have seen some gruesome pictures of farm murders that will continue to hunt my dreams for ever. I do not know why the people do this but i do not think it is because they are black because if you look at the rest of the continent such thing do not occur. White and blacks in west Africa ,North Africa and east Africa live in work together ,inter marry and live in peace. It is only in SA that these racial crimes are happening. The Government needs to protect the farmers and the farmer needs to form a union with the locals so that the locals can snitch on who ever is perpetuating this sick crimes amongst them.

      James - 2012-05-02 13:29

      Colin Ferguson {Black} kills 5, wounds 19 {Whites} on LIRR. Life goes on. Zimmerman, half Hispanic half Jewish shoots a Black thug [Trayvon Martin}. Tawana Brawley Duke Lacrosse team Sharpton, Jesse Jackson "I spat in white peoples food" Raises hell, demonstrations, New Black Panthers put bounty on Zimm's head. And we have had about a dozen innocent whites severely beaten "For Trayvon"

      Zambezi - 2012-05-02 13:41

      We need to start a revolution !

      Koos - 2012-05-02 13:51

      I just read the report. The mother was actually shot without provocation in front of the children. “Just crime”!

      colin.dovey - 2012-05-02 13:53

      HOW can any SANE individual have the GALL to give thumbs down to people condemning this disgraceful murder?

      GrootWitHaai - 2012-05-02 13:58

      In the process of buying a Rhodesian FN from a guy eager to sell off his rifles. Why don't people on farms carry weapons FFS!! Wake up people.

      jacob.ndlovu.3 - 2012-05-02 14:23

      @ Shannon...you are one very liberal white person. As a black person, I know how these black people think when it comes to these horrible crimes they commit. They murder farmers because they hate them because certain government leaders sing and chant hate crimes against white people. They do it because they are looked up to in their communities and gangs. Have you not heard of Uhuru....look it up!!! Unfortunately South Africa is in a sad state of affairs. I feel very sorry for the farmers and all the people that get murdered in South Africa. The government has failed on so many levels, all I can say to you Shannon is that when crime comes knocking on your door, you better hope to god that they dont murder you as these thugs dont think twice to kill anyone...Its like a light switch to them to pull a trigger...South African white people are too complacent to do anything constructive about this. You all moan and groan about problems in SA and the crimes which I agree is shocking, but you never protest or do anything constructive to stop this madness.South Africans are too materialistic and self centered to start a revolution for a positive future!!

      johand.dutoit - 2012-05-02 16:55

      marnalouw- Kill them yes,but very slowly! Tie them to an anthill & smear them with honey! Supply enough water that will last for a day or two but let it drip 10cm from them into the thirsty ground! Let them suffer & plead for mercy till they die!

      johand.dutoit - 2012-05-02 17:01

      Xavier7034- Easy answer,they are not sane! I could have said more but I'll rather refrain from saying anything else!

      rowen.loretz - 2012-05-02 19:54

      soon all the farmers will be killed or gone. We better start stockpiling food, cause there ain't gonna be any soon, or it will cost like R100 for a bowl of iwisa pap. This cANCer is too blame. They don't even say anything anymore, like it is part of their plan to get rid of the farmers. We live in a really sick society, really we do. There is no more law in this country and everyone does just like they please. One day God will through all the rubbishes into internal hell. One day they will pay forever.!

      Denise - 2012-05-02 21:28

      The following are among the farm attacks that have occurred this year: Saturday, 14 January: Dries du Toit was attacked and killed during the early hours of the morning on his farm in the Ventersdorp area. His wife and sister were also assaulted during the attack. Thursday, 26 January: A 70-year-old farmer, Corrie Potgieter, shot and killed a trespasser who tried to gain entry to his house on his farm in the Karino region, west of Mbombela. (This attack was one of several in the district.) Sunday, 29 January: The body of 77-year-old Hendrik Johannes (Boet) Cilliers was found on his farm approximately 15 km outside Stella in North West. It is believed he died some time during the weekend after he had been severely assaulted, tied to a tree and shot. Sunday, 5 February: Girlie van Niekerk (62) was assaulted by two intruders. They also tried to strangle her. That attack happened outside Bothaville. Sunday, 12 February: Reinetha Venter (59) and her daughter René (27) were attacked on their farm approximately 30 km outside Modjadjiskloof. Reinetha was stabbed at least ten times in her hands with a knife before she and her daughter were tied up Monday, 20 February: David Hall (48) was assaulted and shot dead during an attack on his dairy farm in the Fochville area. His wife, Bernadette (44), was tied up during the attack Tuesday, 21 February: Carel Bester (74) was attacked by a robber on his smallholding on the Eindhoek Suiker Estates approximately 13 km outside Empangeni.

      Denise - 2012-05-02 21:49

      Thursday, 10 March: Vic Nel & his wife were attacked on their farm near Vergeleë in North West at 21:00. Shots were fired at Vic. The couple were tied up with cables & robbed. Tuesday, 20 March: Tjokkie Venter (34), a farmer in Harrismith was assaulted on the farm Uitvlugt by workers of a farm belonging to the SA National Roads Agency. He was stabbed in the face with a knife & hit on the head with an iron pipe. Sunday, 25 March: Bouke Tack (57) was shot in the back during an attack on his dairy farm Golden Valley in Magaliesburg. The attack left him partially paralysed. Wednesday, 28 March: The owner of a farm in the Donkerhoek outside Zeerust shot dead an intruder in the early hours of the morning. Tuesday, 3 April: At van der Merwe (68) died after he was severely assaulted on his farm in Leeubosch, Bloemhof. Friday, 6 April: Deon Steenkamp (44), his wife & their 14yr-old daughter were murdered on the farm Naauwhoek outside Griekwastad in the Northern Cape. Sunday, 8 April: Charlotte Sroneman (64) was stabbed to death in a robbery on the farm Dagbreek outside George in the Southern Cape. Her husband, who was also stabbed, survived the attack. Tuesday, 10 April: Christo Jansen van Rensburg (36) from Heilbron was petrol bombed & set alight by attackers. He survived the attack, but sustained serious burn injuries. Tuesday, 10 April: Dave Foxon (43), manager of the Umbhaba Lodge near Hazyview, was shot dead in front of his pregnant wife & 2 children.

      Denise - 2012-05-02 21:54

      The farm murders are only a tip of a blood spattered iceberg. Each year hundreds of urban whites are also murdered and many more are the victims of horrific violence motivated by racial hatred and deliberate genocide. The farm genocide is merely scratching the surface of South Africa's blood stained reality. The scary truth is that the farm killings are only a part of what is actually going on!

      Denise - 2012-05-02 23:08

      I hold the ANC responsible for the ongoing genocide of whites in South Africa. The heinous nature of the murders of the boer farmers is beyond description. Thus far the ANC's response to this genocide has been anemic; in fact, the ANC's indifference to these tragic murders has been indifference - an indifference that could easily be interpreted as a silent endorsement. I believe it is absolutely urgent to focus global attention on the ANC regime’s nonchalant, ho-hum attitude to the vicissitudes suffered by farmers, their families, labour & animals in what many people believe to be a politically motivated campaign! It's time to take a stand, no longer can we sit and do nothing as the white population of South Africa is being murdered.

      Benn - 2012-05-03 04:56

      Thank you Denise for providing us with FACTS. Sadly, however, facts are things that do not impress people in SA. They prefer to bury their heads in the sand in the vein hope, that when they take them out one day, the threat/problem would somehow have disappeared.

      Denise - 2012-05-03 15:39

      News24 reports "Money and guns were stolen". See the TRUTH here - watch video of the farm-wife murder interview with the husband the day after the execution-style murder. The truth is NOTHING WAS STOLEN. This is NO ordinary crime - this is a racial genocide that is explained away as crime. http://censorbugbear-reports.blogspot.com/2012/05/afrikaans-farm-wife-vanessa-stafleu.html

      Denise - 2012-05-03 15:50

      Genocide is any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial or religious group, as such: (a) Killing members of the group;(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group. – Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, Article II http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide#Genocide_as_a_crime_under_international_law If you feel this is true for your situation, you have rights to be protected by the UN, you may have to leave SA and return another day…use them! http://www.un.org/english/

      Poloyatonky - 2012-05-03 16:43

      @ jacobus, who said the farmers where white, they could have bee colored

      Fredster - 2012-05-04 09:35

      WHAT ARE YOU DOING ABOUT THIS MR PRESIDENT?

  • Steve - 2012-05-02 12:16

    Screw this crap now!!! FFS!!!

      Tc - 2012-05-02 13:05

      Jacob Zuma will most likely ask his sell-out agent, Pieter Mulder, to go out there and calm the emotions. And Pietertjie will then do just that. And the Boertjies will fall for Pietertjie's lies and deceipt. And Zuma will have another whisky and cream-soda and smile.

      christo.stone - 2012-05-02 13:16

      @Jacobus, wtf is your problem towards rhinos? Both are news worthy. If you can't leave constructive comments, don't leave any at all. Rhinos need saving just as much as our farmers.

      Jacobus - 2012-05-02 13:25

      Christo, you obviously dont get it. So here it is. Why dont you change your profile pic to a killed farmer, instead of a rhino? Why dont government send in the cavalry to save the farmer? They send in the army to save rhino, and perlemoen... even spy-planes and satelites, but not to protect the farmers. What are we missing here. I have no problem with rhinos, I can kill them legally with a hunting permit and I can export the horn legally. No big deal. Are we doing enough to protect another species, that cannot protect themselves? Are YOU doing enough?

      marnalouw - 2012-05-02 13:32

      @Tc No...Zuma will not have another whiskey and cream soda....he will have another WIFE! But I completely agree. We really need to start doing something. This is so out of hand. And they just keep on telling us everything will be okay. It will never be okay because this won't stop. Lower than animals. That is what they are!

      Jacqui - 2012-05-02 13:42

      Jacobus your messages are becoming boreing. The farmer needs to be safe and so does the rhino. Don't keep on like a child.

      Jacqui - 2012-05-02 13:44

      Jaconus 'why don't the government send in the cavalry to save a farmer' What nonsense, how would they to do that to keep every farmer safe in this country?.

      George - 2012-05-02 17:39

      A lesson must be learnt from our long suffering compatriots in the townships. They have learnt to be vigilant (as in vigilantism) out of necessity. Their murder rate is quite low I believe. The farmers seem to have no option but to follow this example. Human life cannot be traded for promises never kept. When communal law fails to work, your law becomes your responsibility to protect yourself and your loved ones by whatever means. Your ancestors will guide you.

      George - 2012-05-02 17:46

      Has the Hon. Jacob Zuma, President of the Rep. of South Africa, sworn to uphold the constitution, issues a statement expressing the governments grief and outrage? No? Never? I thought so. AfriForum, the case is yours to defend your people against what can only be called targeted slaughter of your people. IMPLEMENT THE DEATH PENALTY NOW.

      Poloyatonky - 2012-05-03 16:48

      Please go to australia and leave us in peace, plz we are tired

  • Tony Lapson - 2012-05-02 12:17

    The criminals will probably not be caught. Won't be surprised if they are boasting about their kill as well as the spoils.

      Rob - 2012-05-02 12:30

      Yes Tony. Killing whites is a form of status in the black criminal world. Wont be long before the haters come out & say the 5 year old did it !

      Rob - 2012-05-02 12:47

      Rubbish Shannon, you've tried this before. By the way, I certainly cannot remember the last time a white killed a black & on the rare occasion it does happen, it is percieved as racist by black commentators on these forums. Once again it is you that is talking cr@p. How on earth any white person in this day & age could still be a liberal shocks me. Your kind are always making excuses for the heinous deeds of blacks. Hungry ? Ok steal but....Why kill ?

      Jacques - 2012-05-02 13:09

      Shannon are you insane. Why was the commondos done away with why was the rural protection removed. Why do the anc still fight for kill the boer to be part of culture instead of seeing what it is. Vulnarable yes but then why kill. Why not just steal. Now you thinking beacuase she might identify them. Come one realy the police dont even investigate these things anymore and even if you provide a gun with a photo of the murder they still get away. No supporter of ET but they bragged about killing him now look at the court case. This means identifying them is not the cuase of the killings but rather the hate. Shannon I also want to believe what you are saying but ignorence wont save my family nor yours

      david.baker.sa - 2012-05-02 13:19

      @Rob - Questioning whether a horrible killing was racially motivated and justifying/explaining the action are 2 different things altogether. It was a heinous murder, there is little doubt of that. But I don't know what is in the mind of the killers. Neither do you. You are correct to say that most cross-racial murders (whatever direction) are tagged as being racially motivated. It does not make them racially motivated. Murder is murder. There is no possible justification. In this case I mainl see aggravating circumstances. Condolences to the family. Its an awful thing to happen and I hope the catch the perpetuators... soon.

      anne.crewe - 2012-05-02 13:21

      Shannon, the white kid is innocent until proven guilty ... don't you think?

      Jacqui - 2012-05-02 13:46

      Shannon, as far as I know the white KID has not being found guilty yet. So who is making assumptions now?.

      jacob.ndlovu.3 - 2012-05-02 14:18

      @ Shannon...you are one very liberal white person. As a black person, I know how these black people think when it comes to these horrible crimes they commit. They murder farmers because they hate them because certain government leaders sing and chant hate crimes against white people. They do it because they are looked up to in their communities and gangs. Have you not heard of Uhuru....look it up!!! Unfortunately South Africa is in a sad state of affairs. I feel very sorry for the farmers and all the people that get murdered in South Africa. The government has failed on so many levels, all I can say to you Shannon is that when crimes comes knocking on your door, you better hope to god that they dont murder you as these thugs dont think twice to kill anyone...Its like a light switch to them to pull a trigger...

      JHLR73 - 2012-05-02 14:46

      @ Shannon- Just catch a wake up- you are one ignorant fool living in a dream world..Please get a back bone and face reality- This rainbow nation colours are not what you make it out to be..White people are killed on the farms by cowardly black murdering racists,nothing else.

      Rob - 2012-05-02 15:32

      Shannon as much as I dont agree with you, really see no reason why your comments were removed. Very strange indeed !

      johand.dutoit - 2012-05-02 17:26

      Why is it that fools like Shannon & Zazi remove their comments when they talk crap & gets criticised?

      johand.dutoit - 2012-05-02 17:32

      bluzulu (Vinesh)- Feeling safe in NZ to talk about something you don't experience everyday hey!

      Gestoffle - 2012-05-03 10:17

      @johand.dutoit - dont fall into the bluzulu trap...he is a liar and a thief...this ahole lives in richards bay and works for portnet. His sole purpose is to wind up the whites, just ignore the curry muncher.

      johand.dutoit - 2012-05-03 20:10

      Gestoffle- Thanks,I'll keep that in mind! So bytheway,I despise liars!

  • Ryan - 2012-05-02 12:19

    Why the heck do they have to kill the farmers, surely she would have co-operated with them to protect her children. Not too long now and I'll be leaving this lawless place where the value of human life is nothing. Do these idiots kill for fun is it just a game for them? aw dubul'ibhunu seems to be taken to heart by these spineless bastards, I hope the ANC is happy.

      Gert - 2012-05-02 13:33

      The anc IS happy------hear their silence.......

  • Jana - 2012-05-02 12:20

    WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Thoka - 2012-05-02 12:21

    shoot those M***** F***** when you catch them. Start looking for them at nearby squater camps, while you ther Shoot the F*** selling nyaupe as well

  • Scott - 2012-05-02 12:22

    SA needs the death penalty!! Only then will criminals actually realise the value of one's life! This is so sad for this poor family. I hope that the culprits suffer in the worst way possible.

      anne.crewe - 2012-05-02 13:29

      I have no problem with wiping these criminals off the face of the earth, but would you really want this enormous power of the death penalty in the hands of the corrupt,greedy ANC government?

      frans.visserdsb - 2012-05-02 14:03

      i agreewith Anne. I don't have enough trust in our police or justice system...

      johand.dutoit - 2012-05-02 17:36

      Scooter- Although I agree with you on the death penalty we must be careful with what we want! It can be abused by the powers that be!

      George - 2012-05-02 17:52

      I have to assume given the government's drive towards privatization that the death penalty can also be privatized. Problem solved.

      Michael - 2012-05-03 09:11

      My sixpence worth - when we had the death penalty it was a known fact that blacks did not believe that it actually happened - they thought that the person was whisked away. True! Like they believe that a motorcar can stop in an instant - like a human when running - that is why so many get killed (although some may argure that the majority pissed). Like they believe that having sex with a virgin will cleanse them of the HIV! Like they still believe in the tokolosh. Like they still believe in killinig an ox at the new stadiium door to bring luck. Like braging to their mates about havin slept with a white woman (rape statistics prove this). I can go on - this is truly a sick puppy (S.A.)!

      Poloyatonky - 2012-05-03 16:51

      please go to Au and Eu. where ever you can, any 1 that thinks they are better than south africans can u pleaseship your goods to sea and leave us in peace

  • Steven C Venter - 2012-05-02 12:23

    But yet the People stay and say they will f

      Michael - 2012-05-03 09:13

      Listen China - if I was younger and could afford it I would of been out of here many years ago. I have instilled in my children to get the FOOH (get the f out of here!)

      Poloyatonky - 2012-05-03 16:56

      Good Micheal, then ur kids will open up opportunities 4 our kids so that they can be Doctors and Engineers (which they are doing in numbers). then in 40 years this country will b filled with skilled proffesionals who wont leave no matter what. OH!!! Love this country #love

      Frankly - 2012-05-04 09:34

      @poloyatonki donkey - skilled proffessionals? No, there is no skill in getting given a degree by a university because you are black, no skill involved in passing matric with a 33.3% pass. You will never be skilled, you will never learn, you walk around with this entitlement attitude, you are not willing to work for what you want, it is easier to shoot a white woman infront of her kids and then steal what you want. The thought of bettering yourselves have never crossed your scarred little minds. Your comments show you for what you are. A coward. Never will you live in peace. You'll see...

  • Pieter Mulder - 2012-05-02 12:24

    Did the Government improve in this 18 BLOODY years? Wander where is SA in the world statistics.

      Tc - 2012-05-02 13:09

      Pieter, you are not the sell-out Agent of Jacob Zuma, are you?

      Pieter Mulder - 2012-05-02 13:29

      Hahaha. Meaning?

  • Koketso - 2012-05-02 12:26

    I was just now now reading some stuff off stormfront website, white South Africans forever talk about being victimised maby you should look at yourselves carefuly. I was a DA supporter before then now I could never vote for them. Condamn the crime not the whole black race, condolances to her family crime is out of control in this country let us raise our kids properly so they can respect human life.

      Nosiphom - 2012-05-02 12:45

      Charles you are wrong. They are ALL committed by criminal minded people attacking an easy target. Nothing to do with racism. Those buggers do not care for anybody's life.

      Koketso - 2012-05-02 12:47

      @charlse what makes you they are racially motivated, for every farm murder commited 3 to 4 black people are murdered this has nothing to do with race farmers are easy targets for crimminals because they live in secluded areas. Hence why I condemned the murder. Talking about racist you must read Stormfront and come back to me later

      bluzulu - 2012-05-02 12:47

      Rob and folk of his ilk mean nothing Koketso, There will always be detractors unfortunately. Condolences to the Family, another unfortunate crime however as I explained many times regarding these Farm attacks, These Farmers need to change the manner in which Farm settlements are arranged. There needs to be a village setup where homes are closer together instead of the Farmer building his homestead off in the sticks.

      Smile - 2012-05-02 12:54

      @Koketso what is wrong with you? 1. Norway is one of the most liberal countries when it comes to any race. Black, Muslim, White. They are all welcome there. 2. Not all white originate from Norway. 3. You preach about not all black are the same... yet you state "ut yet again you white you have no respect for human life." 4. You are lying about ever supporting the DA!!! 5. Your comment has some terrible grammer flaws. It hardly makes sense. All of these thing lead me to the concluton that you are an incompetant ANC retard. Whom like the rest of the ANC does not know what they are talking about. Yet they still make plenty of noise.

      Christopher - 2012-05-02 12:56

      @the smelly c*ck... You stink bru...

      Rob - 2012-05-02 13:13

      Koketso....We live in South Africa not Norway. We are dealing with life under corrupt, thieving black rule & life under the control of black, murdering scum who are causing the divide in this country. Without this I am sure we would for the most part, ALL get along just fine !

      Tc - 2012-05-02 13:13

      These are murders, committed to the satisfaction of the plundering ANC. Maybe even with the ANC's blessing! This is xenophobia! And, all those blood-dripping sell-outs who want to hide the fact under political cliches and liberal lies, you are all equally guilty of these murders! We often despise you more than we despise the damn ANC.

      Smile - 2012-05-02 13:15

      @Koketso... Being in a hurry is no excuse for being an ignorant idiot.

      richard.hipkin - 2012-05-02 13:16

      @Koketso, you do know stormfront is a white supremacist website right? So you go there and then come back and label white people from what you read on a "white power" website?? How shallow are you?

      Koketso - 2012-05-02 13:18

      @Rob When I said our kids I ment black, white and grey. White people are as African as I am. Second, more black people are murdered by other black people, fact. Farms are secluded and remote, it is easy for crimminals to steal murder and plunder. And if you think black people are plannig to murder all the white farmers, they would have simply done it Zim style and no one would have said a thing. Lets condamn the crime not the race of the people. Simple as that.

      Koketso - 2012-05-02 13:27

      @pointblank, have you ever read News24 when a white person has been murdered, it is basicly a black bashing contest. @smile, being in a rush does affect your spelling and grammer, fact. Now lets get off our high horse :-) I apologise for the generalision I will remove the Norway comments.

      Terry - 2012-05-02 13:32

      If you are going to intoduce things like the Norway killer - at least get your facts right. He did not "kill hundreds of muslims" - he killed mainly white people, many of them on an island where they were doing a kind of leadership course as the youth wing of a politicaal party. His reasons for the killing were that they were members of a political party who did not oppose immigration of people from other cultures (i.e. muslims) - the people that he killed were not themselves muslims!

      Sonnyjakes - 2012-05-02 13:53

      @ Koketso and Shannon-Do poor people in India (millions) do this? A lot poorer than here?

      Koos - 2012-05-02 13:55

      Shannon, India has higher poverty levels than SA, their murder rate is way below that of SA. You should remove your blinkers and see it for what it is. What the police don't tell you is that she was most propably raped too. Saps always hide the true facts from the public.

      Jacqui - 2012-05-02 13:55

      Koketso, in the time you voted for the DA, you were thinking clearly, now you don't. Everytime a person other than black is refused a job because they aren't the right colour they are being victimized by a system introduced to make a hand full of blacks very rich. Don't tell me that was as it was under the old regime, we fought to change that and not to create millionaires of any sort. No one condemn the whole black race. But don't expect us to lower our standards to make those who won't do something about their own lives feel justified.

      Jan - 2012-05-02 14:35

      @ shanon Everytime you post a comment i get this pain in my crack. dam, im going to have to go for a sharon in the sharonhouse. Stop talking crap

      Jan - 2012-05-02 15:35

      hey sazi you D*ckhead, what you doing on your madams computer. Get off and go back and to your garden work. Typical, want job but dont want to work

      johand.dutoit - 2012-05-02 17:52

      Koketso- Please,please,please ! Don't see the Stormfront as representative of the whites! They are not "all" white South Africans They are just a small minority of the ±5mil whites! You are exactly doing the same thing you say whites are doing by saying "white South Africans forever talk about being victimised maby you should look at yourselves carefuly."!

      johand.dutoit - 2012-05-02 18:00

      Shannon- So what you say is that it is OK to steal & murder when you are poor & hungry! Wow,in which utopia are you staying where everything is OK & an excuse?

      Merven - 2012-05-03 07:16

      So Shannon, there are more than 80 white squatter camps in and around Pretoria alone, so how come you don't read of poor whites raping and murdering people in the most brutal ways?

      Keaobaka - 2012-05-03 09:22

      I disagree with the majority here who are clearly saying that every farm attack is a genocide committed by a certain group against another group. When one person[shannon], who is not paranoid as the whole bunch, shows them what this really is and refutes the genocide claiming chorus they censor/delete their comments. Is news24 colluding with the genocide claiming bunch?? Until they provide evidence to back up their claim that: there is a link between what people like Malema have uttered and the so-called genocide, I will continue to see just a random killing that can happen to any South African.They must be feeling good about themselves because their paranoia is unrefuted. Predictably they are milking it to make their own cheap polical statements. This is not genocide as the convinient chorus has claimed here. All those who claim genocide must provide us with compelling evidence otherwise they are drunk from paranoia. My sincire condolences to the family.

      Michael - 2012-05-03 09:23

      @marven - the difference is culture! A quite different view on the value of human life!

      blipsie - 2012-05-03 09:51

      @ Shannon, I am not sure whether to laugh at you or feel sorry for you. The world you come from must surely be awful if you think that torturing people with a hot iron before killing them (elderly people mind you) is just crime because someone is hungry. If you are hungry and need food you will tie up the really old lady, steal whatever you want and get out of there. What does rape and torture/murder have to do with hunger? What could this mother possibly have done to deserve this? And her kids? You are contributing to the whole problem by denying the reality. Its racially motivated, how do you say?...oh yes, "finish and klaar". The hate and utter lack of any sympathy towards the victims are very very clear. I am really struggling to see where you are coming from and I am wondering if maybe you are not in fact a really "special" person. If this wasnt such a sad story I would laugh at you.

  • Apu - 2012-05-02 12:28

    I request for death penalty to be reinstalledl

      bluzulu - 2012-05-02 13:40

      Request DENIED,

      Rob - 2012-05-02 13:45

      Too many ANC votes would be lost as the dead cannot vote !

      Jan - 2012-05-02 14:38

      @bluzulu Got a big mouth boy. Do me a favour, buy a farm, move there and i will pay you a visit.

      Jan - 2012-05-02 15:37

      Ag sazi, still not mowing the lawn!!!!!!!

      Shannon-lea - 2012-05-02 19:21

      @bluzulu. Scared there won't be many of you criminals left to vote. What cowards!! Killing a young defenceless woman. RIP and be strong.

      Oistar - 2012-05-03 09:12

      @Bluzulu Karma will get you! And I hope it is with full force

  • David - 2012-05-02 12:29

    This is so sad. Cops must stoping beating up homeless people and concentrate on the real criminals. This is really getting out of hand, shooting innocant woman and destroying the kids lives.

  • Loo - 2012-05-02 12:30

    FFS !!!! When will this BS end. ANIMALS !! that murder women and kids for NOTHING !!!

      Michael - 2012-05-03 09:27

      I still do not get the likeness to an animal?? This comment rears its head so often and yet it still has not sunk in that an animal does NOT behave like this! PLease liken them to barbarians or savages!

  • Hudayfah - 2012-05-02 12:30

    Why dont i see any government members coming out to condemn this and trying to put a plan in place to help this people? You would think they approve.

  • Sibusiso - 2012-05-02 12:33

    When you catch them throw them in Limpopo river, poor crocodiles are starving. We don't need trash like this. May her soul rest in peace and condolences to her family. SAPS do your job, hunt these animals until you catch them, kill them if you have to

  • John - 2012-05-02 12:35

    Filth!!!!

  • revaro.winkler - 2012-05-02 12:35

    eish another politicly motivated atack on innocent people whats gonna happen whit this country where are we going whit this race issue can we not live in peace

      kensong.ben - 2012-05-02 13:07

      Ja neh ..how wrong was i ? Seems the farmer,s onslaught isn,t a concern for the baasses..how many more must be wipe out before those sub-human wakes up...are we even living for real or it just a nightmare that will pass ?

  • Trotse - 2012-05-02 12:39

    Police will not help the farmers, Please open your eyes to the evil African Groups. The Majority of Africans are good honest people but the "right wing" groups are killing farmers in a "struggle" for freedom.... All Farmers of all colour must start to work together to eliminate the devil groups that are killing innocent people. Dear African people - The Apartheid was bad?, killings of your innocent people are bad? if you think its wrong what the past was please do not support the new apartheid and help each other towards a future for SA. The fact that many Africans on here say "well you did it to us" or "the past.." regardless of anything this is now not the past and if you think like this then your are as bad as the people your ancestors faught against. Think about that.

      Koos - 2012-05-02 14:17

      No no no Koos. Killing the general population will not achieve anything but to strengthen the cause of the ones in power. It must be done in a way that makes the normal citizens turn on the government with murderous intent. I pray that if someone does something like this that they do not waist their efforts in a direct assault on pointless targets.

  • Cindy - 2012-05-02 12:40

    may her soul RIP,no need to politicise death.

      Smile - 2012-05-02 13:07

      Well said Cindy!!!

      Tc - 2012-05-02 13:16

      Cindy, you damned deniallist!!!

      Ngaka - 2012-05-02 13:22

      @Cindy..wish all were like you.

      Rob - 2012-05-02 13:46

      Yes, lets bury our heads in the sand & NOT face reality !

      George - 2012-05-02 18:03

      How many deaths does it take to become political. The US lost 55,000 soldiers in Vietnam in combat and it brought down the US government. We've lost 60,000 farmers and the President ignores the problem. Wow, talk about the Stockholm syndrome. How long will the Apartheid guilt trip last? Ordinary whites had no say. It was an economic system practiced by political and mainly business elites. The black people of SA must come to the defense of the whites. No other real solution.

  • Johnny - 2012-05-02 12:40

    So sad that these poor kids must now grow up without a mommy to lead and guide them through their childhood years. Why can't they just take the guns and the money? Sincere condolences to the family :'(

      Merven - 2012-05-03 10:45

      Exactly! Why can't they just take the guns and the money? Why did they have to kill a defenceless woman if it wasn't hate based?

      blipsie - 2012-05-03 14:57

      I just saw an interview with her husband. Nothing was stolen

      badimo.rasekgala - 2012-05-05 12:24

      the question is why only her? hehe

  • Bill - 2012-05-02 12:50

    Innige meegevoel met die familie. Mag God julle vertroos. Dit is tipies Suid Afrika. Derduisende rande word gespandeer en ingevorder om renosters te beskerm en selfs die weermag word vir hierdie doel gebruik. Niks word gedoen om mense te beskerm nie. Kan die weermag nie nuttig bebruik word om te patroleer nie?

  • kasper.mbayi2 - 2012-05-02 12:56

    Until how many people have to be killed?

      Koos - 2012-05-02 13:13

      Around 50 more white farmers have been killed then rhino.

  • Bless Boswell - 2012-05-02 12:58

    How terribly sad. Sad for her family and sad that life has so little meaning for some. Sincere condolences to those that knew and loved her.

  • Michael - 2012-05-02 12:59

    How many farmers have been killed on their farms so far this year??

      jeffrey.baloyi1 - 2012-05-02 13:20

      this is crime not farm attack,like anywhere else.

      Jacqueline - 2012-05-02 18:41

      @Michael: so far it is averaged to be about 250 people this year to date. And @Jeffrey: She was killed in her home, on a FARM, ergo FARM MURDER. Crime is robbery, breaking and entering, assault, hi-jacking etc, not shooting a woman in front of her 2 small children. That is a farm murder.

      SA - 2012-05-03 20:01

      Farm attacks and murders remains a serious issue for all South Africans, out of the 35000 commercial farms operating in South African 3158 farmers have been brutally murdered since 2004, whist most of these murders have taken place since 2008. Commercial farming in South African contributes 2.6% of our total GDP (R113.4 billion) and employees around 10% of the total work force in South Africa (1.76 Million people). Our farms produce the food we eat and contribute a large part of our global exports. Some report indicate that our farmers are being killed at a rate of 330 / 100000 people per year since 2008 (Six times higher that our already high murder rate) and the sheer violent uses during these attack indicate that there is something far more worrying going on, although there is no direct link to the ANC it must be noted that farm attacks and murders have seriously increased since Mr. Julius Sello Malema was elected as ANCYL. Organisations within South Africa have been monitoring and reporting on farm attacks and have reported the following statistics. 1995 (1), 1997 (1), 1999 (1), 2000 (1), 2001 (2), 2002 (2), 2003 (2), 2004 (01), 2005 (1), 2006 (2), 2007 (1), 2008 (37), 2009 (465), 2010 (439), 2011 (551), 2012 to date (92). = 1599 farm attacks, 3158 people murdered + all the murders listed in this post. Don’t worry the world is watching and there are several organisations and activists working to high light these issues to the world.

  • Morne - 2012-05-02 13:01

    Very soon a peaceful, restrained approach to issues in this country will be impossible.

      sharon.truebodyvice - 2012-05-02 13:20

      It already is impossible

  • Peter - 2012-05-02 13:03

    This is the saddest news I have read today. My condolances to the family. Please can the govt wake up and deal with these attacks and not by quite diplomacy, justice must be done and be seen to be done. This situation of farm attacks is out of control.

      Malizba Liz Mhlanga - 2012-05-02 23:26

      What was your comment about saliva issue...I think you know what to do if you can't stand the heat

  • luzukotosh - 2012-05-02 13:03

    South africa and crime, damn. Condolences to the family

  • CapeGtown - 2012-05-02 13:05

    Our justice system is the biggest failure in South Africa today. There are no deterrents for these cowards; maybe a call to arms for ALL law-abiding citizens; time to take action; EENDRAG MAAK MAG; UNITY IS STRENGTH! We are all in the same boat irrespective of our race, time to kill or be killed!

  • Pixie86 - 2012-05-02 13:07

    this is murder (crime). Why is it tagged as a farm attack? Why not murder? Why do we put tags on crime? If she had been killed in her house in a surburb would it still be a farm attack? It's terrible a life was lost and i feel terrible for her children, but tagging every crime in farms as farm attacks and not just crime will incite further divisions in this country.

      Brett - 2012-05-02 13:23

      Pixie and Shannon what are you retards going to eat when there are no farmers left? Never mind you probabaly need to lose a few kilo's anyway.

      Manu - 2012-05-02 13:27

      Well said Pixie. I too have questioned why these farm crimes continue to be called 'Attacks'. It completely distorts the sense of the crime. My impression is that those who use this phrase want to create this perception that these crimes are planned and executed by organised groups with the sole purpose of decimating the white populations. But if one looks at the statistics and the crime reports there is nothing of the sort happening. It's like calling all burglaries 'House Attacks'.

      stefaans.blaauw - 2012-05-02 13:27

      Pixie this is labeled as a farm attack because it happened on a FARM. If happened in a house it would have been a HOUSE murder. Is it so hard to understand??? They want to have the farmers land not their houses. They already can buy houses anywhere they want , and it is not enough, they want the farms for free. And yes like Shanon said in her comment, people are murdered every day in SA, But that kind of murders happened for the past 100 years. The black population grew with a million a year, while the white population numbers are declining every year, most because of murders. Your comments on news24, wont save your white skin, your blood will flow together with the rest of the white man's blood.

      Andre - 2012-05-02 13:52

      malavi u and Shannon should get together, u 2 would make the ideal mixed couple RETARDS!!!!!!!!

      Jacqui - 2012-05-02 14:06

      Pixie, I do agree, but every crime against a human being is an attack, no matter how we look at it. Come to think of it every act of violence is an attack even if it is only on our dignity.

      Koos - 2012-05-02 14:12

      Shannon lives in denial.

      JHLR73 - 2012-05-02 14:45

      @ SHANNON- Just catch a wake up- you are one ignorant fool living in a dream world..Please get a back bone and face reality- This rainbow nation colours are not what you make it out to be..White people are killed on the farms by cowardly black murdering racists,nothing else.

      Shannon - 2012-05-02 14:51

      @ Koos.... no, Shannon lives in KZN.

      Koos - 2012-05-02 14:57

      @Koos: Don't think so Koos. Type in "Liberalism" and "sickness" into Google. Throughout history liberalism has a logical outcome: First subjugation and then annihilation when faces with other believe systems. Sadly I don’t think Shannon lives in denial. Liberals are the easiest to “get on your side” by playing on their guilt and they are also the easiest to get rid off when you don’t need them anymore.

      johand.dutoit - 2012-05-02 18:21

      Manu- The only thing I noticed that is distorted is your mind! Pixie86- Where was the attack/murder comitted? Yes,correct,on a farm,hence called a "Farm attack/murder! Full points for you on this guess!

      Gail - 2012-05-02 19:34

      To quote Libratwin "She was killed in her home, on a FARM, ergo FARM MURDER. Crime is robbery, breaking and entering, assault, hi-jacking etc, not shooting a woman in front of her 2 small children. That is a farm murder." Plain enough for you???

      Pixie86 - 2012-05-02 20:01

      i guess most of you missed my point. The point is we are all affected by crime, just read a few articles on news24 for confirmation, yet somehow people seem to view people killed on farms as a greater crime than let's say that girl who was gang raped. You're crying genocide and calling for the UN yet we're all prisoners in our country. Kids aren't safe anymore. Women aren't safe anymore! You could get killed for a bloody cellphone yet when someone in a farm is killed it's as though it's somehow a crime of international proportions! As for the idiot brett and his comments, if farms closed i'd still eat. Ever heard of subsistence farming? Some of us still practise it!

      Brett - 2012-05-02 20:34

      @pixie you would be good at subsistence farming because you produce fertilizer every time you speak.

      johand.dutoit - 2012-05-02 21:03

      Pixie86- Dream on girl! Do you know what subsistence farming is? That's the same as "F... you Jack, I,m OK" To farm you need seed & animals to feed a few people,where do you get that from? Have you ever heard of a countries economy? Buggered economy,buggered inhabitants! No work,no pay,no food for the ever increasing (Rabbit like) masses,famine,war! Do you still like your subsistence farming that much?

      Merven - 2012-05-03 07:25

      No Pixie, your government singing songs instigating the murder of farmers incite further division in this country.

  • evdwesthuizen1 - 2012-05-02 13:09

    and why are we as a nation not standing up to this? It does not help if we all vent our spleens on here and do nothing. Surely there must be some organization or concerned citizen, who can start a movement or the like, that we all can join and protest the government to do something serious about this. This is really getting bad. And now Zuma wants to free criminals that only know how to commit more crime. WTF??!! And is this committed by illegal blacks in our country?? Just asking...

      Jacqui - 2012-05-02 14:08

      evdwesthizen, well we stood up and we fought for liberty and look where that got us.

  • Jonny Lee - 2012-05-02 13:10

    Where did the farm protection system go to?

      Genet - 2012-05-02 13:18

      I think all farmers would like to know exactly that. Do you have any idea of just how much farmers are paying for private security. It is frightening. Maybe poeple should ask themseves then, why the cost of food is going up. Because the goverment is not doing it's job.

      Zahir - 2012-05-02 17:55

      The govt closed it down they don't think farmers need any protection

      Merven - 2012-05-03 07:23

      No Zahir, the government disbanded it so that their voters can have a field day killing farmers.

  • muriel.proudfoot - 2012-05-02 13:11

    These rotten b@stards might get away with murder with this useless government....but they WILL have to answer to God someday for their horrendous deeds. My heart goes out to this family :-(

  • Ruan - 2012-05-02 13:11

    @sazi,,,stade 6 of genocide is denial

      Sazi - 2012-05-02 13:40

      Denying generalisation that you are making here yes.

  • Jimmy - 2012-05-02 13:14

    People don't commit this sort of crime. These are savages.

  • Gert - 2012-05-02 13:15

    The more pale white faces they remove from SA the 'darker' SA will become, not just in figurative speech but also in physical reality and one day they will sit with a black- black SA that will make them very happy and the freedom square will be full of monuments erected in honour of those that killed innocent 3 year old white toddlers and many white farmers and their wives. Their past will be a black dark history --their future will have this black birthmark or stain that they will never be able to remove. We curse the future of those elements that are denying SA this ONE chance to be a prosperous place. Cursed are the leaders that are playing along with this deadly game and through their silence they are giving Massive Support for this,- bit by bit genocide. To speak out will cost them many votes and in their deepest black parts of their hearts it is actually what they are yearning for. For now we can only shed a tear in sympathy for the family-have we made a mistake to give this country away to people with more hate than common sense??. It surely looks that way.

  • Roland Strick - 2012-05-02 13:16

    The one and only method of fighting this murder and rape crimes is to bring back the death sentence,that way they would be scared to do anything wrong

      Merven - 2012-05-03 07:27

      With the ANC in power, who do you think will get the death penalty, the ANC sponsored farm attackers or the people defending their property?

  • Bonga - 2012-05-02 13:19

    We can all sit here and judge each other about who's worse than the other fact is both of us are wrong black and white so the best solution is to work together to avoid these similar instances from happening because no black is safer than any white we're in this together.

  • Tc - 2012-05-02 13:19

    Where is the United Nations? They play in Syria, Sudan. Here in South Africa the greatest Xenophabia of all is happening with the blesssing of the ANC. And the UN is silent. The UN has become truly irrelevant, useless!

      Brett - 2012-05-02 13:26

      They feel that it is not politically correct to get involved when it is black on white genocide. If it was the other way around they would be here in an instant.

      Gladstone - 2012-05-02 13:30

      @TC, you are talking crap, ANC has got nothing to do with that. May her soul RIP.

      Pieter Mulder - 2012-05-02 13:30

      Now your talking

      Stewart - 2012-05-02 14:19

      So true

  • VaMbozha - 2012-05-02 13:27

    Death sentence is the way to go otherwise these barbarians will never stop their evil acts. Its funny the government fold hands when these things happen. R.I.P

  • Straton - 2012-05-02 13:30

    Government must stop crime on attacking farmers, otherwise very soon south african economy will be like Zimbabwean one.

  • Ngaka - 2012-05-02 13:33

    Since when is the word 'farmer' equivalent to 'white person'?...crazy country we're living in.In this case yes a white person is involved but that doesn't mean every farm attack or murder is by a black person to a white person.Some of the comments on this site are not to be read by people from other countries...they certainly would think that South Africa is full of dumb people.

      Koos - 2012-05-02 14:16

      If you look at the amount of votes going to the ancESTORS you are 110% correct. There are a lot of dumb people in SA. You can spin it any way you like. 99.9% of farm murder are black on white.

      anne.crewe - 2012-05-02 20:39

      I think what we are trying to say is, that the government does not regard this as high priority [farmers being killed]so the assumption is that back people do not care about us as white people, even though we are suppose to be part of the growth of this country, that we all love, and desperately want to be part of!

  • Will - 2012-05-02 13:34

    This is only going to get worse with 35000 prisoners about to be released.

      Bradley - 2012-05-02 13:37

      can you say apocalypse

  • Manu - 2012-05-02 13:37

    Condolences to the family this must be tough on the children. But it's strange how so many want this to be anything but a crime. It has to be an 'Attack'. Do you want to tell me that the only way a white SA farmer can be murdered is if it is an 'Attack'? This is ludicrous. What of the rest, the +15000 who are murdered every year? Should we also say that they were 'Attacked' to death in their homes, on the street and so on?

      johand.dutoit - 2012-05-02 18:31

      What do you want to call it? A peaceful Sunday afternoon walk in the park perhaps? You tell me,how can a person die in this way without being attacked?

      Dawid - 2012-05-03 02:11

      Manu- For your info one point of a number of definitions of "attack" from Dictionary.com. "to set upon in a forceful, violent, hostile, or aggressive way, with or without a weapon;" So from this you see that in order to kill somebody,(crime),you have to attack,(crime),a person!

      Manu - 2012-05-03 07:17

      johan, why not call it murder, why not call it burglary, why not call it armed robber? After all these are all crimes defined by law and this is what these crimes are. That poor woman was murdered in the progress of an armed robbery. But for some it has to be a Farm Attack and nothing else. As Prixie asked earlier would the crime have been any different if the woman had been killed in the city?

      blipsie - 2012-05-03 10:03

      @ Manu. HELLO?? She was a woman, not armed. She had two small children in the house. If it was an armed robbery only, she would have been tied up or just locked in a room with her kids probably petrified. Its alarming how ignorant some people are. I worry about people who think its normal to kill an unarmed elderly person/woman/child to rob them?? I live in a much poorer African country. People get robbed all the time. They dont get killed and if they do its because they were also armed and a fight broke out. Elderly people, women and children do not get killed. There is something very very wrong in SA and pussyfooting around the problem trying to make it fit politically correct is contributing to the problem. Racists can be any colour. Wake up please man.

      Manu - 2012-05-03 12:30

      blipsie, I suggest that before commenting you first read and understand. I clearly wrote, "That poor woman was murdered in the progress of an armed robbery." Did you see that?

      blipsie - 2012-05-03 15:01

      @ Manu, I suggest you read other news sources too. Nothing was stolen. So what robbery would you be refering to?

      Manu - 2012-05-03 16:35

      blipsie, again please read the article. Right at the end it says, "Money and guns were stolen" it will avoid others having to correct you.

      blipsie - 2012-05-03 20:43

      @ Manu please use the wonder that is youtube and find the interview with her husband where he clearly states NOTHING WAS STOLEN. He lives there, he would probably know better than News24 and their half assed reporting. Can you read?

  • Leonard - 2012-05-02 13:37

    These killers work hand in hand with government, where will another white farmer buy a farm where whites have been killed on?its easier to sell of to a black business investor that doesn't know one thing about farming,

      Michael - 2012-05-04 08:55

      Sell off?? What you smoking - you mean TAKE!

  • Christo - 2012-05-02 13:38

    A SAD Day like any other, Government is sucseeding to deviding US based on our skin colour, and we are falling for their ploy(the lack of basic services and human rights as per our constitution). Imagine us standing togheter to get a better life for all.

  • pkheswa - 2012-05-02 13:43

    Ay no, these killings are getting way out of hand now.

  • max.maxwell - 2012-05-02 13:43

    The systematic slaughter of white farmers has gone far enough! What possible threat could that poor young mother have been? I believe the intention was to kill, not rob! The aim is to create a climate of fear amongst farmers, in order to create an exodus from South Africa, and thus the local politicians can take over for gratis!

  • i2meleng - 2012-05-02 13:52

    This must stop now - arghhhhh - Guavament stop ignoring these killings.

      Jacqui - 2012-05-02 14:12

      Malavi, is a troll and should be ignored. That way you don't feed his sick mind.

      Ngaka - 2012-05-02 15:01

      @E2 ~ They are not ignoring them,they simply lack the capacity to deal with them. This government cannot govern.There's absolutely nothing government about it.

      Merven - 2012-05-03 07:32

      That is bullshait Ngaka. Why did the ANC disbanded the Commando system that kept the farmers safe (other than to make the farmers easy targets)?

  • pkheswa - 2012-05-02 13:53

    This is way out of hand now

  • phosa.peter2 - 2012-05-02 13:55

    Where in the article saying is a white lady/farmer..pls .stop playing race cards and manage your anger..we all condenm the killing of farmers..blame the goverment rather than playing racism

      CharlesDumbwin - 2012-05-02 13:59

      I take it you haven't seen the article photo yet??? But before you go on, the victims are ALWAYS white and defenseless, the killers ALWAYS black. Like every other farm attack article ...

      johand.dutoit - 2012-05-02 18:33

      phosa.peter2- No offence meant but are you perhaps blind?