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Woolies facing wrath over hot cross buns

2012-03-29 09:26

Cape Town - Woolworths is facing criticism from a few Christians for putting a Halaal certification mark on its hot cross buns, but a bishop has labelled it "nothing more than a storm in a baking pan".

The Cape Times reported on Thursday that people had written e-mails and used social networking sites to voice disapproval of the use of a Muslim mark on a food that had special significance for Christians.

One Christian wrote on Woolworths Facebook wall: “Ja, its sad to hear the woolies we supported all these years turned their backs on Christians.

“Really disappointed. Lucky we received that email, man its spreading like a wild fire. Proud to say a few people I know are boycotting W, including me [sic].”

Another wrote: “I hate woolworths... How can you do that to the Christians, I hope that God will have mercy on you. And dnt be surprised if your shops run bankrupt.. I will pray to my living God and you will see what he is capable of! [sic]”

SA Catholic Bishops' Conference spokesperson Chris Townsend said people were overreacting and needed to be more understanding.

"Hot cross buns are only a symbol, and not a central tenet of Christianity. There are a lot more weighty issues to deal with in SA than a few 'hot cross Christians'," he was quoted as saying.

The food chain apologised for the upset and said it would release separate buns in future - non-Halaal certified hot cross buns and Halaal certified spiced buns.

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Comments
  • Marion - 2012-03-29 09:32

    The only reason I can see why people could be offended is if the ingredients have been changed to comply with halaal regulations and the buns are no longer lekker as a result. (Like the Macon pizzas instead of Ham and Bacon pizzas). If ingredients have not been changed get a life.

      jordaanjean - 2012-03-29 09:38

      Hey Marion, for once I fully agree with you. When did hot cross buns become a symbol of Christianity, and a holy relic in the religion ?

      Tracy - 2012-03-29 09:48

      I think this is pathetic. As Christians, are we not supposed to be accepting of people of other religions? Who cares if it has a halaal mark on it? I have close friends who are muslims and they join us at Christmas and we are actually having Easter at their place this year. When it's any of their special holidays, we join them as well in celebration. We learn so much from each other and share our beliefs. My son and their kids love learning about each others 'special' days and events and sharing in them.

      Stephen - 2012-03-29 09:52

      I hear Malema is suing them for forging his signature.

      Marion - 2012-03-29 09:52

      Hi Jean.... no matter how much people disagree on things there will always be at least one thing they can reach consensus on. Glad we found one.:-)))

      robbie.crouch - 2012-03-29 10:00

      People claiming to be Christian should read Genesis again; “I have given every green plant for food”. Genesis 1.29 “Every moving thing that lives shall be food for you; as I gave you the green plants, I give you everything”. Genesis 9.

      iamtmashigo - 2012-03-29 10:03

      Christians have CROSSED the line.....

      Rudi - 2012-03-29 10:08

      Easter is not a Christian festival. Passover is. Easter just happens to be at the same time as Passover. You go and buy the hot cross buns. Nothing will happen to you. Are you going to stop buying milk from Pick & Pay because they sell FHM? Idiots...

      Bryan - 2012-03-29 10:10

      To the Christians who are whinging over this.... It is beyond pathetic!!

      wayne.jubber - 2012-03-29 10:21

      Marion There is way more to this than ingredients it is the fact that Halal means it should be in accordance with Muslim law and preferably okay-ed by a Muslim priest or Mullah. What is objectionable to people and not just christian people is the idea of our food being blessed by a totally foreign faith to ours and to top that a food designed and first produced by Christian people to celebrate Easter a Christian holiday. Do you not see how that becomes offensive. What if we decided to have the cross stamped on traditional food used for say Eid-ul-Fitr a holy Muslim celebration?

      gordon.p.jacobs - 2012-03-29 10:42

      Andre, Wayne Juber. Does Jesus not say that it isn't the food that goes in that is important but rather the words (intent) that comes out? And the intent should as far as possible be love?

      J-Man - 2012-03-29 10:43

      @ Wayne. Its food. Its a bun. It will taste the same no matter how much you "bless it" and with what words.

      Dave - 2012-03-29 10:44

      @Rudi Hey man, now you are really going to start a religious war!! Passover is actually a Jewish religious festival. Let the war begin! Ha Ha :-)

      dinnyesilva - 2012-03-29 10:44

      @Andre, so am I to understand you you live on a farm and only eat the produce that you alone make. Most franchises carry the halaal mark. I highly doubt that every cross-bun is blessed but rather a sign to show that the preparation of the food complied with the council's regulations. Personally I think this story is a load of nonsense just like the boycott on Red Bull.

      Glyn - 2012-03-29 10:48

      Christians should be less offended by trivia. By the same token, Muslims should also be less quick to be offended by insignificant self-constructed insults. Only those who want to be offended are offended!

      Ed - 2012-03-29 10:53

      hahahahaha....christians...next thing they will want a x on a red bull! since when has ANYTHING that is purchased in a shop, got to do with religion? its commercialised. since when did good old jehovah tell you to eat hot x buns or easter eggs? easter eggs come from medieval pagan festivals. however i am sure that those christians who are allergic to something, whether it be yeast or raisins, would be extremely unhappy if the packaging did not list the ingredients. so what is the problem with letting people know that something is halaal? pathetic. hahahahaha...

      Clive.D.Buckley - 2012-03-29 11:07

      @robbie... so according to genesis 9, cannibalism is acceptable?

      rbphiri - 2012-03-29 11:25

      When did hot cross buns become a symbol of Christianity, and a holy relic in the religion? Well I'm guessing the hot "CROSS" bun, is the reason why christians are up in arms. Next think people will be going to court to have the name changed to hot buns...than some bright spark will say the name hot BUNS is homophobic. I don't know why we have to use religion in almost every matter to justify certain actions or certain needs. The problem here is that we use it in a negative manner. I agree with Marion, If ingredients have not been changed in the buns get a life.

      Frank - 2012-03-29 11:32

      Beware Christians! If you eat 1-2 of these buns you become a Sunni Muslim. If you eat 3 or more you're a Shi-ite Muslim. My guess is the Woolworths Board has a few Muslims on it, and their devious plot is to convert South Africa's yuppies to the Muslim faith without them knowing it. In the end, Zille and the DA will probably be blamed for the fiasco, and Zuma and the ANC will use this obvious example of rascism to get DA votes in the next election. Sis on you Woolworths.

      bluzulu - 2012-03-29 11:47

      hahaahahahahaahahaaa.....Some Christians,

      Rudi - 2012-03-29 11:50

      @Dave - true, but Jesus (a Jew) celebrated all the Jewish Festivals. God never said we should stop celebrating the Festivals. In fact He commands it. It's the church (institutional) that plays it watered it down to a ritual!

      Marina - 2012-03-29 11:58

      @Wayne.jubber You are so uninformed. Hot Cross Buns are NOT a Christian "delicacy" nor are Easter eggs for that matter. I suggest you google their origin. If you're a "staunch" Christian, you might not eat them again.

      aidan.louis - 2012-03-29 12:08

      I'm also curious about what makes these buns Halaal. Are the eggs cracked differently? Or are they maybe blessed by an Iemam? I know the latter will just add fuel to the fire. Anyway, i hope more "Christians" complain so that Woolies can make bacon samosas or roti's like rushdi.toefy suggested below :)

      Barker - 2012-03-29 12:15

      The buns were originally used in pagan rituals. The offended do not hold the patent to Warm Angry Left and Right Cheeks of Buttocks.

      Tgif - 2012-03-29 12:19

      Maybe we should put a Peace sign on the bun ,Take it easy guys !

      Jessica - 2012-03-29 12:25

      Its like racism where only white can be racist while blacks cant. When Cristians speak up against the abuse of their tranditions and symbols they are labelled over the top but when a muslim protest against the use of theirs then the world can't apologize quick enough. People get your priorities straight please. I for one be not buying woollies hot cross buns this year.

      Cherise - 2012-03-29 13:01

      @Wayne - 'a food designed and first produced by Christian people to celebrate Easter a Christian holiday'.. Go do some reading dude. Coming from a Christian, you need to get your facts straight before you make a comment like that..

      david.baker.sa - 2012-03-29 13:35

      @goyougoodthing - Why do you generalise so? I don't even know a Christian that believes that the Halaal certification on the buns is an issue. Sure some Christians are intolerant, that is true but why generalise? THere have been plenty of New24 articles that have angered some Muslims. I don't generalise about them. To all the Christians that are angry about this - Its just a certification on an item of food that is eaten typically around Easter. All it certifies is that it is safe for Muslims to eat them. You will notice that Easter eggs also have the same certification. The Muslim kids at my daughters (ChrisTian based) school like Easter eggs. What kid doesn't? Lets be tolerant. Its not offensive or against any of our rules.

      Dave - 2012-03-29 13:48

      @Rudi BTW if you could see me, you would notice a huge tongue in my cheek when I posted...I Thought the Ha Ha and smiley face would have given you a clue that I was being facetious! As an comment to your reply, I haven't noticed many Christians celebrating: Fast of Tevet 10 Tu B'Shevat Ta'anit Esther Purim Shushan Purim Passover Second Passover Lag B'Omer Shavuot Fast of the 17th of Tammuz Fast of Tish'a B'Av Rosh Hashanah Fast of Gedaliah Yom Kippur Sukkot Hoshanah Rabbah Shemini Atzeret Simchat Torah Chanukah Once again please note the huge tongue in cheek.

      goyougoodthing - 2012-03-29 14:01

      David, sorry, I did generalise you are quite correct. It is still a false idol. There is still a large community within the Christian faith that are bigoted and intolerant and this case highlights this. I just find it hard to have any time for a group that has, whether you admit it or not, caused more harm, death and war than anything else ever created by man.

      Jackie - 2012-03-29 15:46

      If you read the whole e-mail from the originator & the reply from Wollies, then you'll understand the whole fuss....

      bvravest - 2012-03-29 15:55

      @ Rudi: Easter is the central feast in the Christian liturgical year. According to the Canonical gospels, Jesus rose from the dead on the third day after his crucifixion. Passover is a Jewish holiday and festival (like Christmas). It commemorates the story, told in the book of Exodus, in which Moses led the ancient Israelites to freedom from slavery in Egypt. If you not sure - there is a wonderful invention called Google. Otherwise you tend to look like and dumb-ass and people don't really take dumb-asses seriously.

      bvravest - 2012-03-29 15:57

      @ Rudi: Sorry about the big words - you can Google those as well.

      david.baker.sa - 2012-03-29 17:43

      @goyougoodthing Thanks. Again you are generalising a bit. Sure there is large group of people that take offence to things like the Easter Egg thing. I doubt it is large percentage though. There are a lot of Christians and therefore a small % of a lot is still a lot. By the same token often groups of Muslims take offence at actions that are either negligent or were never meant as offence. Often, out of ignorance, people say or do things that create offence when no offence was intended. Again I dont think that a large % of Muslims hold these intolerant views. The difference is that in SA Muslims are a small minority in SA and therefore could feel marginalised and defend themselves more. The Jewish people are probably no different. (a comparison that will probably offend Jews and Muslims alike) Wrt history well both Christians and Muslims have a lot to be ashamed about in the way that their radical groups have behaved. The Crusades, Fundementalism (both Islam and Christian), the list goes on forever. I am not capable of formulating a scorecard. I am sure that neither can be proud of their score

      Jack - 2012-03-29 18:11

      More evidence which shows how dumb religion is.

      Chris - 2012-03-29 23:58

      One has to wonder why Muslims are interested in hot cross buns to begin with? Why would the MJC want to put a halaal sticker on a hotcross bun?

      Angela - 2012-03-30 07:28

      In reply to the question re the origination of Hot Cross Buns "In 1361, a monk named Father Thomas Rockcliffe began a tradition of giving Hot Cross Buns to the poor of St Albans on Good Friday. "

      Bathabile - 2012-03-30 08:30

      @Marion: I agree.

      Leon - 2012-03-30 08:30

      War between the holy ROLLers.

      E=MC2 - 2012-03-30 09:05

      Since when has Christianity been reduced to hot cross buns & easter eggs?!?!

      sean.bezuidenhout - 2012-03-30 09:10

      Almost the entire earth celebrates Easter as a holiday, is it not great that our symbolic pieces of bread are now Halaal so even our Muslim friends can participate in remembering the death and resurrection of our Lord Jesus Christ.

      Tony - 2012-03-30 11:13

      I think the arguments and the subject are pathetic, but I wonder if it was the other way around I have no doubt that the muslim people would threaten geonicide and probably make it into international news, double standards much. So from that point of view I agree with the unhappiness that the christians feel.

      Psalm - 2012-03-30 11:26

      To Fellow Christians: Does anyone know if SA has a Christian Consumer Forum or something of that nature?

      Alfred - 2012-03-30 11:31

      I see that there are some christians that are just as bat sh it crazy as lunatic fringe muslims. It almost seems like there is a competition between the lunatic fringe of both religions to see who can be the most insane. Note to those nutcase christians; feel free to sic your imaginary bloodthirsty tyrant in the sky on me. I challange you to pray as hard as you can, begging your god to do any nasty thing to me that you can imagine. Bloody lunatics!

      Omrisho - 2012-03-30 12:49

      sorry but just have to get this in somewhere, WW hot x buns are cr@ppy anyway...

      Freddie - 2012-03-30 16:35

      I don't care about the pagan origins etc. Hot cross buns are baked over the Easter period and are associated with this Christian holiday. As a Christian I do not want a Muslim logo on this product, if the situation was reversed they would be calling a fatah and burning Woolies stores down. Woolworths were insensitive, naive and a little stupid.

      Scebberish - 2012-04-01 06:33

      When you losse your priniples, and your moral standing, you sell your soul, or become an athiest. Either way it explains the mess the world is in today. Are you aware of the latest muslim teachings in schools across Asia that Christianity is a threat to muslim religion that must be eradicated!!! and it is creeping down through Africa too, until one day it will arrive at your door, and you will wish you had shown a strenth and moral high ground while you still had the chance! Your excessive tolerance will lead to your termination.

      Scebberish - 2012-04-01 06:38

      www,themalaysianinsider,com/malaysia/article/pembela-says-christian-threat-seminar-a-guaranteed-muslim-right

  • Mvikeli - 2012-03-29 09:35

    Wow, really?!? “I hate woolworths... How can you do that to the Christians, I hope that God will have mercy on you. And dnt be surprised if your shops run bankrupt.. I will pray to my living God and you will see what he is capable of!” <== This over hot-cross buns?!?

      J-Man - 2012-03-29 09:48

      Pathetic, right?

      richard.hipkin - 2012-03-29 09:51

      Just not Kosher!

      Oom - 2012-03-29 10:27

      Oh this is so childish really get a life man

      Clifford - 2012-03-29 11:22

      Why is everyone upsetting the Talibun today..

      Christopher - 2012-03-29 11:42

      Its only a bun people...just a bun!!??

      Mvikeli - 2012-03-29 12:02

      @zaatheist: huh?!

      Marina - 2012-03-29 12:06

      Now I know what is meant by a bun fight.

      Rodney - 2012-03-29 16:38

      Its not over hot cross buns , its just to prevent hot cross talibuns !!

      SaintBruce - 2012-03-29 18:25

      Ok so you guys have all completely missed the point. How so you ask? Simple: To declare any food Halaal, it has to be approved by the Muslim Council and the ingredients have to comply to their regulations - this part is easy. Complex: The Holy figures in Islam, usually an Imam, then provides a blessing prayer over the food and declares it before god (Allah) to be pure for Muslim consumption. This is what any true Christian objects against. The Bible clearly says, "You will not eat anything offered to foreign gods or idols" 1 Corinthians chapter 8. The Living God, Elohim is NOT the same as the idol god , Allah. This means the Christian is now faced with foodstuffs that he/she cherishes as having significance for the Passover being offered to a god that is actually opposed to his/her belief system. This makes any hot cross bun stamped with a Halaal sticker (having been 'processed' in the Islamic way) unclean to the believer who obeys God's word. That, my friends who think this is not a big deal, is the core of a very big deal. Try asking any Jew to touch any food with the Halaal mark on it and, if they know their Jewish customs and Law, they won't. Do you now understand the nature of the issue? Effectively Woolworths ( owned by Jews I heard) is slapping Christians in the face. Hey, Make a bun with the crescent moon ( Their god Allah's Babylonian symbol) and put the Halaal mark on that! Probably do great business. So, please show some respect to the Christian community.

      Alfred - 2012-03-29 23:42

      @SaintBruce. Casting spells, praying to gods, its all the same primitive superstitious BS practiced by the delusional and the simple minded. Hard to believe that anyone in the twenty first century with a modicum of education actually believes in demons. There was a time when your worldview prevailed, its known as the Dark Ages. Personally I think you are psychotic and should be on medication.

      Peter - 2012-03-30 08:37

      Alfred ... aggresive much? Jeez boet! Take a chill-pill.

      SaintBruce - 2012-03-30 08:53

      So Alfred, how could I, and those who were with me, be deluded about an event we witnessed? Were you there? No, you were not so you have no basis on which to refute my statement. Have you been to the Statue of Christ in Rio and seen the view from the top of the mountain? I have. So when I tell anyone about that magnificent view over the city plus the sounds and smells I experienced, then they, who have not been there, can only listen until they experience it for themselves. So what are you so afraid of? Being convicted of your sins perhaps? Finding out that God is real? The point I made several times is about understanding and tolerance, which you have demonstrated is lacking in your own personality. I am highly educated, well read and continue to study many topics in my quest for knowledge. I am saddened that this country harbors people who are so polarised by little things and cannot bring themselves to start respecting the views, opinions and personal testimony of others. I pointed out that the issue over the hot cross buns is not physical but spiritual in nature (just check the reaction of the Muslims to the alleged abuse of the Halaal mark recently - they take it very seriously for spiritual reasons). If you can't see that point, then, with all due respect, leave the debate as you are not qualified to comment. All the thumbs down placed against rational, open debate points of view simply show up your intolerance and ignorance. What a shame.

      Alfred - 2012-03-30 11:49

      @SaintBruce In the Dark Ages thousands of people 'witnessed' witches flying on broomsticks, so according to your logic they must be true. Then there's tokohloshes, fairies, ghosts, unicorns, dragons, little green men, gnomes, talking to the dead, etc. all according to you must exist because people have 'seen' them. In science this is called anecdotal evidence and it is disregarded. It carries no weight for a reason, i.e. humans are absolutely terrible witnesses. Not once in hundreds of years has any supernatural phenomena ever been scientifically verified. The is absolutely no scientific evidence whatsoever for anything supernatural.

      Johan - 2012-03-30 13:05

      "You will not eat anything offered to foreign gods or idols" 1 Corinthians chapter 8. But it is not a foreign god, it is the one and same god, that is why the same biblical figures appear in the Quran and Bible. The only difference is, Muslims don't see Jesus as the son of god but a prophet. And the Christian bible stopped after the crucifixion of Christ where the Muslims continued.

      riaanvil - 2012-03-30 15:12

      @Johan. It's not one and the same god. My God's name is YAHWEH, and not allah. My God has a son ,Jesus Christ. So its not the same god

      Sean - 2012-03-31 07:36

      @PointBlank I like your sense of humour :)

      Scebberish - 2012-04-01 06:53

      I think it is more a matter of princples rather than the bun itself. How about Kosher stickers on Hallal products, lest see what happens then shall we..... suicide bombers in woolies would not be such a far fetched expectation. Boycotting is ridiculous, but do make your objections heard as Christians deserve just as much respect for their beliefs as muslims and athiests. (anyway athiests are usaullaly the products of incest and inbreeding, leading to mental delusionalism as to their own intelectual super powers)

      Tim - 2012-04-04 18:19

      Jesus told me that he would like a choclate egg deep-fried with a Mars bar and a fluffy bunny to fondle. Please respect my belief and religion which allows me to assert this as the honest, pure truth. I speak to Jesus every day.

  • rushdi.toefy - 2012-03-29 09:35

    oh come on Woolies Play fair...make them some Bacon Samoosa's to go with those buns

      john.h.viljoen - 2012-03-29 10:35

      i love the taste of swine in the morning.

      zaakiro - 2012-03-29 10:37

      Samoosas isn't a symbol is Islam, Samoosas is an Indian savoury an while many muslim eat it, it's only because many South African muslims are of Indian decent.....Islam's routes are in Arabia...give it another go...c'mon you can do better than a bacon samoosa..!!!

      Ask - 2012-03-31 18:36

      @John.h.viljoen - boet, spoken like a true swine...

  • richard.hipkin - 2012-03-29 09:36

    I would cry if this wasn't so pathetic...

      jordaanjean - 2012-03-29 09:39

      it is funny how some people will make a big issue over something as small as this. hehe.. it is funny though

      SaintBruce - 2012-03-29 21:58

      You guys simply don't understand the issue and probably never will. Ever faced a demon possessed person? Like hearing a man's voice come from a woman? I bet you would run a mile unless you understood what was going on and had the courage to persevere and provide relief for the oppressed person. But then it depends on whether you care about others or not. Most of the thumbs down are likely to be from more of your ilk.

      spartanx93 - 2012-03-30 08:39

      @SanintBruce - I think you have been watching the Exorcist one to many times.... LOL

      Johan - 2012-03-30 13:15

      'Like hearing a man's voice come from a woman?' It is not your grandma's fault that she got a deep voice! Sies man!!

      SaintBruce - 2012-03-30 18:11

      I rest my case. You guys have no reference to work with so you resort to the lowest form of critique - to pan. Janine - I sincerely hope you never have to, but if you do, you know who to call. Spartanx93 - no I haven't needed to. That was Fantasy, I believe, I have faced factual real demons and seen some very wierd stuff indeed. This is not new and has been documented widely. However, if a person chooses to hold a one sided view of reality, then they cannot comprehend any other view. Carl Sagan gave some good examples in his series "The Ascent of Man" [ a tribute to Evolution]. Look it up, especially the tiddlywinks analogy of space - time dimensions. Johan - I never knew my Granny (like Little Red Riding Hood did) but I can vouch for the episode. However, as the reality of experience of anyone does not stand up in the Atheist 'courts of opinion', then all I can do is wish you all: HAPPY ATHEISTS HOLY DAY - 1st of April. Look up Psalm 14:1

      Scebberish - 2012-04-01 07:19

      @Janinine, you obviously never met anyone from the SA Government then!

  • Jason - 2012-03-29 09:36

    Im not a huge religious chap, but I can help wondering if a Christian symbol was put on a food item that represented a Muslim holiday, that the Muslims would go ape! Lol this turn the other cheek lark is not always the best bet.

      Marion - 2012-03-29 09:55

      It is not necessary for Christian foodstuffs to be marked with any symbol but I won't go into the reasons here. I'm a Christian and I think the first one to rebuke these Christians would be Christ.

      gordon.p.jacobs - 2012-03-29 09:57

      Yeah but does that mean Christians should be so childish? Just because 'they' would?

      Hussain - 2012-03-29 09:59

      You can put a cross on my samoosa. Doesnt matter to me.

      Shamier - 2012-03-29 10:02

      er Jason...hot cross buns have a cross on them...Muslims chow them like they going outta fashion bru...

      Frank - 2012-03-29 11:38

      Hi Glyn, I know this women. She bought bacon to poison her husband with!

      Barker - 2012-03-29 12:22

      @Glyn, how do you know she was Muslim?

      Michael - 2012-03-29 12:43

      Barker - because she was walking a cute little pot bellied oinker with a sign around it's neck saying,"Mary had a little lamb but I got this lousy pig"

      Qheks - 2012-03-29 17:42

      My question is, why did Woolworths have to put a Halaal sign anyway if the Muslims eat them.

      Peter - 2012-03-30 08:55

      Marion --- Actually not. "Other than the ingredients and in addition to the direction of the cut, permitted animals should be slaughtered in the name of Allah (God)." I am wondering whether the last requirement of blessing it in the name of Allah, also relates to baked goods? I really don't know. Bottom line is this in my opinion ... where a food-stuff is blessed in the name of another god, can it not be seen (in Christian terms) as a food-stuff prepared for the purposes of Idol worship? This remains forbidden as far as I know? And should the practise be forbidden, does it not follow that consuming anything related to that process is also forbidden? Just asking?

      Peter - 2012-03-30 09:06

      "In Surah 5:5 of the Quran, it is written: The food of the People of the Book [Jews and Christians] is lawful for you as your food is lawful for them." Now if this statement is true (and I don't know where it comes from), I agree that this is a hell of a lot of noise over nothing. As far as I know, Islam and Christianity (pre-Christ) have the same root? Abraham had 2 (main?) sons ... their history (from some sources I have read) went as follows ... Izak (Mother Sarah, descendants named his god JHWH) and Ismael (Mother Hagar, Descendants named his god Alah). They went their different ways after Izak was born to Sarah. Many hundreds of years later, Moses (descendant of Izak) fled Egypt to the land of Midean, and married (cannot remember name) a descendant of Ismael. They (his wife's people) still worshipped at Mount Horeb, which in Christian literature is known as God's (i.e. in the Christian sense) mountain. So i tend NOT to agree with the coments that Elohim / JHWH / Allah are not one and the same God, just with different names?

      Peter - 2012-03-30 09:13

      http://www.hoax-slayer.com/halal-certification-cadbury-protest-email.shtml

  • Denny - 2012-03-29 09:44

    Hot cross bun-gate. Truly a scandal of epic proportions.

      Rudie - 2012-03-29 10:17

      Would you like a "halaal ball"?

      Denny - 2012-03-29 11:05

      Now I've got Cyndi Lauper singing "Sunnis just wanna have buns" running through my head :(

  • faerrab - 2012-03-29 09:44

    Christians have a point and it should be respected - Moslems generally dont buy Hot Cross due to the religious connotation (they don't mind the eggs and bunnies though)

      Marion - 2012-03-29 09:56

      I'm a Christian and I don't think this point should be respected at all. If you're a Christian it's what comes out of your mouth that counts, not what goes into it.

      Marion - 2012-03-29 09:56

      It's not as if these are communion wafers.

      Shamier - 2012-03-29 10:06

      How do you know muslims don't eat hot cross buns? all the muslims I know eat them.

      wynand.vdlinde - 2012-03-29 10:19

      Please explain the religious connotation.

      Oom - 2012-03-29 10:30

      The muslims I know eat hot cross buns, easter eggs, and they love doing pickled fish on an Easter Firday

      hilton.baartman - 2012-03-29 10:31

      Eating hot cross buns is merely a tradition and NOT a religious practice for Christians, so why the fuss?

  • kerry.yeo - 2012-03-29 09:44

    Whahaha!!!! This is hysterical. Honestly, HOT CROSS BUNS????????

  • domonique2 - 2012-03-29 09:45

    Easter is def not about chocs and buns or pickled fish, Christianity is symbolised by the way you live your life. It is symbolised by the love you show to God, his kingdom and yourself. we should be bying those halaal buns in bulk , and giving them as a gift to muslims as an opportunity to share the gospel of Christ. much love , happy easter. Dom

      richard.hipkin - 2012-03-29 11:20

      Trust me, a Muslim will give you a better education in Christ then Christianity.

      Stormkaap - 2012-03-29 13:22

      ZA atheist You think you know about islam and frankly you shouldnt think that your reference of WIKipedia is the best..You are plain..arrogant

      Shamier - 2012-03-29 13:48

      ZA-Atheists proves an important point. Atheism has its points but most atheists are pricks.

      Psalm - 2012-03-30 11:24

      @ Janine Every true Christian is called a Saint. The Apostles called the believers "Saints". Those who are redeemed by Jesus Christ are ALL declared "sanctified" - and are therefore, Saints. When I am with fellow Christians, I call them "Saints".

      Omrisho - 2012-03-30 12:47

      i have been born again and received the holy spirit and I AM BETTER THAN YOU, <---- there's the problem right there

      Psalm - 2012-03-30 13:14

      @ Jon You deliberately choose to misrepresent SaintBruce's words in order to throw at him your bizarre claims. What SB has stated has formed the primary basis of Bibliical understanding. The Bible itsself supports SB's statement: "The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are FOOLISHNESS to him, and he CANNOT UNDERSTAND them, because they are SPIRITUALLY DISCERNED" 1 Corinthians 2:14; "20 Above all, you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet’s own interpretation of things. 21 For prophecy never had its origin in the human will, but prophets, though human, spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit." 2 Peter 1:20-21 WE also learn from the Bible that all Scripture is "God-breathed" (so to speak). If you do not have the Spirit of God, you will not grasp the relevation of God as revealed in the Scripture. It is the Holy Spirit Who teaches a believer from the Scriptures, for it is the Holy Spirit Who inspired the Scriptures. Yes, you can read the English text that says Jesus Christ was crucified. You can even understand what "crucifixion" entails. But, you do not have the revelation of the Scripture. It is mere words to you, telling an event. To the Spirit-filled, Christ, Who is the Living Word, has been revealed to them in a way you cannot grasp.

      Sue-Ann - 2012-03-31 10:17

      Point blank u r so right especially if u look @ the comments from so-called Christians. Sitting in church doesn't make u a Christian, being born into a Christian home doesn't make u one either. You need to be born again. So if u not, that explains all the stupid &totally ignorant remarks from people. Muslims and Christians definitely don't worship the same God-isn't that obvious in today's world? Get connected to the Holy spirit and the truth will b revealed to u.

      Sue-Ann - 2012-03-31 10:21

      St Bruce r so right & neither a Muslim NOR an unborn Christian can understand this. Therefore the ridiculous debate that shows ignorance is bliss because the unborn Christian don't equip themselves with the Word and the Muslim cannot understand.

  • Jean-Paul - 2012-03-29 09:46

    If you don't like it don't buy it , simple , klaar.

  • Gcwabe.KaMavovo - 2012-03-29 09:47

    When I go to the shop today I must remember to check if the easter eggs are also halaal.

      Barker - 2012-03-29 12:27

      And I must check if they are vegetarian friendly.

  • jordaanjean - 2012-03-29 09:48

    PS. Hot cross buns are not a Christian food. "They are believed by some to pre-date Christianity, although the first recorded use of the term "hot cross bun" was not until 1733; it is believed that buns marked with a cross were eaten by Saxons in honour of the goddess Eostre (the cross is thought to have symbolised the four quarters of the moon); "Eostre" is probably the origin of the name "Easter". Others claim that the Greeks marked cakes with a cross, much earlier So these guys are angry that a symbolic food that was taken from another religion by Christians, now has another religion's symbol on the PACKAGING! If the cross ON the bun symbolises the crucifixion to you, and it is still there, why make the fuss.

      Marion - 2012-03-29 09:59

      The cross on a bun looks more like a fail than a religious symbol. This is almost as ridiculous as the lunatic who burned the Qu'ran thinking he was doing God's work.

      hilton.baartman - 2012-03-29 10:33

      Exactly. The one thing I can't stand is people calling themselves Christians and yet they don't even have a clue as to why they celebrate certain 'holy' holidays in certain ways. There's nothing to complain about here.

      goyougoodthing - 2012-03-29 14:10

      ALL Christian Holidays, heros and stories are fake and taken from Pagan origins. From Christmas, to the virgin birth, 3 wise men, the flood, yada yada bing bing. It's a big book of fake.

      SaintBruce - 2012-03-29 22:21

      Hi Jean - nothing predates Christianity! "In the beginning was God [Elohim - Father ,Son and Holy Spirit].." right there at the start of the Universe. can't get much more earlier than that. The issue is not the bun, nor it's origins, nor it's significance in modern days to the celebration of the Passover (the bun is leavened - raised with yeast so it does not qualify) but rather the principle of knowing that your food is now being marked as offered to an idol / foreign god. That is the point that offends many Christians who enjoy the symbol of hot cross buns as part of their Christian celebration of the Passover during this time of Easter (yes festival to a pagan deity / idol). However - the simple point is that those who are offended by the Halaal mark and understand why they have such an offence, should purchase their favorite hot cross buns from another non-Halaal marked vendor. I hear that Spar makes some of the best Hot Cross Buns in the country. I wonder whether they have been pressured into this marking or not. The Christian has to weigh up their knowledge of their faith and to be led by their God in such decision making. The Bible has commented in this regard in 1 Corinthians chapter 8. Each needs to decide on their actions based on their personal walk with God. So please understand that paganism came from the root of worshipping God and was changed by man into ideologies in opposition to God. The anointed one, Christ, was there at the very beginning. Gen 1.1

      goyougoodthing - 2012-03-30 01:53

      Bruce, whatever you are smoking, well, I don't want any and I suggest that you stop. I have never in all my days heard such unadulterated balls.

  • jolene.dawson - 2012-03-29 09:49

    They are hot cross buns, they taste good and Muslim, Jewish and Hindi people can eat them too. People really need to get busy contributing to an effective society, rather than filling their lives with overzealous fanaticism. Well done to Woolies for dealing with the issue and stepping up to the plate in trying to placate the little darlings.

      Samantha - 2012-03-29 10:00

      i love hot cross buns.......... and I'm not christian, - so are non- christians not allowed to buy hot cross buns, according to these people?

  • IngyBester - 2012-03-29 09:49

    These "Christians" are putting me off being a Christian myself.

      jordaanjean - 2012-03-29 09:56

      Was it not Ghandi that said " I like your Christ; I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ " Mahatma Gandhi is perhaps the best example of someone who was discerning enough to reject Christianity not Christ.

      jpstrauss - 2012-03-29 10:04

      Gandhi also said some interesting things about his black cell mates.

      Matthew - 2012-03-29 10:28

      Rather let rationalism and reason put you of christianity, although the lords followers are the best advertisement for NOT being a christian. As an non-theist, the closest I have ever come to praying in my life has been little desperate cries into the ether 'lord - I beseech you, deliver me from your followers!'

      Glyn - 2012-03-29 10:58

      My grandfather knew Ghandi, said that he was not a saint!

  • tatsee - 2012-03-29 09:50

    Im a Christian but GEEEEZZZZ-what is wrong with all you guys?Does the Bible say If u chow those 'market' buns will you go to hell???

      robbie.crouch - 2012-03-29 10:05

      Actually just the opposite is said about food in the bible. I fear these Christians do not know their bible at all and even less about Jesus and what he stands for.

  • Tami - 2012-03-29 09:50

    So much for Christians being tolerant and secure enough in their faith. I'm sure Jesus wouldn't have reacted like this! I'm a born again Christian and I think the world has bigger problems to spend my energy on!

  • Assis - 2012-03-29 09:51

    Jesus broke bread with the people these days people break others with bread....it's a pity Woolies did not have a Kosher sign on the buns as well then it will be a real bun fight.

      Peter - 2012-03-29 22:50

      What a load of crap. If I eat a bagel and because I'm not Jewish, do I go to hell in a ball of fire?

  • reymister619 - 2012-03-29 09:53

    I am Christian, I understand Halaal to mean that another authority has put their stamp of hygeine on the product. Let's focus on the real issues.

      Eric - 2012-03-29 10:14

      Halaal is nothing more than a money making racket. The MJC charges the producer for verifying that the product is halaal. Those charges are passed onto you, the consumer!

      hilton.baartman - 2012-03-29 10:40

      @ Eric be careful of trivialization of something that is central to other people's faith just like that. The MJC are certainly scumbags in my eyes for trying to make $ but this is a religious faith which was there way before the MJC or any other Halaal approving authority. So again, be careful of just saying 'Halaal is nothing more than...'

      zaakiro - 2012-03-29 10:41

      @Eric you obviously don't understand what Halaal means, it's completely different from how the MJC or any organization handle their affairs. Maybe you should do some research before coming to such conclusions...

      Stormkaap - 2012-03-29 13:21

      @ Hilton I dont think you know what you are talking about as if you know anything about the anything about the MJC.. And Za atheist you just another person with no tolerance of other except yourself..in my eyes just BS as well

  • Mandy - 2012-03-29 09:56

    OMG do people not have anything more important to worry about! Woolworths has to put certification on their food if it's to be eaten by all it's customers. Yes the hot cross bun is of Christian significance but I certainly wouldn't complain if there was a Halaal mark on Matzah boxes and I'm Jewish!! Loads of non-Jewish people eat it but I'm not going to worry about it. Wow, what next!!!

  • Chez - 2012-03-29 09:57

    As a buddhist am i not allowed to buy hot cross buns? should people have to show their bibles at the door before being allowed to buy easter stuff? oh, dear, no easter eggs for me either then? oh sob!

  • Shamier - 2012-03-29 09:57

    I think woolies should put kosher stickers on all the hot cross buns.

      Reehaz - 2012-03-29 16:07

      rrcatto

      Scebberish - 2012-04-01 06:26

      No, they should put Kosher stickers on all the Halaal products!!!

      Ask - 2012-04-01 11:41

      @Scebberish - I will have a KOSHER or HALAAL sticker on my food ANYTIME; it will be a pleasure and an honour...

  • Julian - 2012-03-29 09:58

    Just to shock these complainers even more go and do a background search on the origins of hot cross buns and you will find it came from pagan traditions

      justin.schonegevel - 2012-03-31 08:37

      More about a statement to those that have made hot cross buns part of their experience of Easter Passover. It's about how a business would comply fully to halaal standards before another.

  • Natzi - 2012-03-29 09:59

    its food people! please stop being silly about what religion best fits its! everyone is entitled to eat what they want! some people clearly have nothing better to do with their lives!

  • MiniCoups - 2012-03-29 09:59

    This is perhaps the stupidest complaint I've ever read. Hot cross buns have as much relevance to Christianity as a Christmas tree...

      J-Man - 2012-03-29 10:03

      Exactly. What a sad life you must have if you get worked up over such irrelevant BS.

      Mike - 2012-03-29 10:48

      all western pagan symbols

      zaatheist - 2012-03-29 12:32

      @Mike All ancient pagan symbols.

  • Amy - 2012-03-29 09:59

    Can we grow up or at least act like adults if you can't. I am a christian and I am not offended by a label on a hot cross bun. Seriously people wake up. it was not done on purpose. They didn't sit down and think: "well who should we try to upset today" and if you are going to take offence to something so petty and so stupid then who are you to call yourself a christian in any case!!! so lets just try for once and and behave like animals because they seriously behave better than this!!!

      Mary - 2012-03-31 19:38

      Whewn "adults" believe in fairy tales, are they actually adults, or just oversize children ??

  • colin.langley - 2012-03-29 10:00

    Halaal howzit! Christians seriously...your work is never Ramadan.

      zaakiro - 2012-03-29 10:42

      What are you saying? you have no idea hey...lol

  • gordon.p.jacobs - 2012-03-29 10:00

    From what I've read of The Christ, he would be giving these 'christians' the thumbs down treatment...

  • Kosta - 2012-03-29 10:00

    This is why it's safer to eat burgers because there are no religious symbols on them. You might get heart burn but at least you wont have to burn in hell.....

      Mike - 2012-03-29 10:46

      most meat is killed to halal standards because abotiors dont have different fisilities.

      Jacqui - 2012-03-30 11:23

      Have you checked the box?

      Johan - 2012-03-30 13:19

      @Mike, that is why we eat McDonalds, not enough meat between the cardboard to qualify as Halaal meat.

      justin.schonegevel - 2012-03-31 08:39

      i wanted to buy the Bacon burger from Steers. Macon Burger is not the same! McDonald's in Europe offer beer! Could one open a non-halaal McDonald's.

  • jpstrauss - 2012-03-29 10:01

    What's even worse is that many Christians don't know the origin of these traditional buns.

      Julian - 2012-03-29 10:10

      Thats the point I am getting across on my statement as well

      Mike - 2012-03-29 10:45

      so true @JP they just need to look up "the truth about islam"

      Rodney - 2012-03-29 10:49

      yeah pickled fish was a malay tradition .But never the less i enjoy it during easter .As it means something to the true Christians

      Tiny - 2012-03-31 13:10

      Not only the buns, but the cross, the very day of good friday and many other so called christian practices belong to our forefathers the pagans. lol. i know, let's ban all this nonsense and instead of staying at home looking for something to moan about let us take all the holidays and make them special days where all of us undertake to double our work output

  • John - 2012-03-29 10:02

    Nothing like a lightly toasted hot cross bun, a smidge of butter and a piece of crispy bacon nestled in the middle.

      robbie.crouch - 2012-03-29 10:07

      You like them like that too! lekker man!

  • Henry.E.S.Moorcroft - 2012-03-29 10:04

    You are right ( I suppose), but why then put a halaal sticker on it in the first place? You won't see a 'Jesus saves' sticker on Muslim foods during Ramadan. This all just smacks of Woolworths(less)greed. They don't care about Christians, Muslims ect. It's all about the money. And rightfully so, they are a business. So they (W) have a right and Christians and Muslims aslo have a right to decide to shop there too. My Rands will not go to 'Wollies' because they are pulling the 'Wool-lies' over our eyes. Easter is in any case not what this is all about. They can do whatever they want. Happy Easter all!!!! Muslims you too.

      Shamier - 2012-03-29 10:10

      A halaal sticker cannot be equated to a Jesus saves sticker. One is the the promotion of a basic tenet of one religion...the other is for all intents and purposes a stamp indicating a cleanliness standard has been adhered to.

      Mike - 2012-03-29 10:44

      @Henry this is how sharia law creeps into a country, the banks all have sharia law banking, kentucky chicken is all halal pagan blessed chicken. why as a nation with a minority religion like pagan islam have so much say as to how we have to eat their foods and not the other way round? surely they can be like the jews (ha) have there own halal ckicken suppliers and butcheries cafes and such. Can you imagine if the jews started to demand that all food outlets but kosher stickers and signs up how would that action be taken by all.

      Micres - 2012-03-29 13:22

      Henry, if these buns were wheat free, and Woolies put a wheat-free sticker on the buns, would you then condemn Woolies for looking out for people who have a wheat allergy? Same thing. Halaal is a dietary preference for all intent and purposes.

      Shamier - 2012-03-29 14:02

      @Mike...its business. Catering for a wider variety of people equals greater revenue. Nothing wrong with that. But, if you wanna believe in some insidious plot to place you under sharia law then I suggest you check your cupboards before going to bed every night lest some crazy muslim tries to convert you in your sleep...

      Reehaz - 2012-03-29 16:13

      mike to me it sounds like you 5 years old,past your bed time please go sleep

      goyougoodthing - 2012-03-29 17:50

      From Halaal to Sharia Law - wtf are you lot smoking?

      Abisali - 2012-03-30 07:45

      Shamier: that is a lie! The Halal sign must bless allah the merciful. Our laws take precedence over all else as it is the true law. Soon no pork will be sold in South Africa .. we have already submitted the draft copy to local government to introduce at the next sitting. All other religions except Islam will be banned.

      Mary - 2012-03-31 19:44

      @Abisali: "true law" ... what utter bullshyte. Islam, like all other religions, is totally MAN-MADE. Pity many won't see the truth in that.

  • erick.letshwene - 2012-03-29 10:06

    Hot cross buns have been traditionally eaten during Easter and Lenten period by Christians for many Centuries in many Christian countries. The pastry cross on top of the buns symbolizes and reminds Christians of the cross that Jesus was crucified on (Thesymbol of the Crucifixion). Woollies should have known better and acted more appropriately.

      Marion - 2012-03-29 10:25

      @erick.letshwene - it is nothing more than a symbol in the mind of man. True Christians do not have to see a cross on a food item at Easter to be reminded how the Christ died. Especially not a cross that looks like a fail mark and not like the actual cross used in crucifixion. These lunatic fringe Christians should act more appropriately, not Woolworths.

      hilton.baartman - 2012-03-29 10:43

      Sorry to disappoint you Erick but the practise of eating hot cross buns is not unique to Christianity. In fact, it was around way before Jesus' time. Gentiles used to eat it during a festival in honour of a gentile god. And the cross in itself in general is NOT unique to Christianity. Something that shows over and over again is Christians have no clue as to why they have certain 'religious traditions'. And you don't have to believe me mate, go on then, Google it!

      Ed - 2012-03-29 10:57

      really now... what makes christianity SO much more special to other religions? think before you answer because if you believe that one religion is better than another, it is a short hop and skip to believeing that one race is better than another...hmmmm... so get real, all religions have so many similarities it is scary. funny though that the between christianity and islam, christianity is the one that talks about how they all used to marry each others brothers, sisters, cousins... if you know your bible, you will know its true, whether it was in the old testament or new, its all the same. relax and drink a red bull.

      Ed - 2012-03-29 10:58

      PS: mike...islam is based on the OLD TESTAMENT... hmm, so now whos the pagan, get a life dude.

      Marion - 2012-03-29 10:59

      @Mike - I do not share your belief about Islam. If Christians consider it to have been blessed by pagan's then all they should do is undo the pagan blessing by praying before they eat them. That simple. I say to you, as I have said in other posts, Jesus, the Christ, told us quite clearly that it is not what goes into your mouth that makes the man but what comes out of the mouth.

      christina.engela - 2012-03-29 11:19

      Dude - the "hot cross bun" (and the "easter egg" and the "easter bunny", and the xmas tree too) was plagiarised by the catholic church from Pagan traditions - about the same time "Christians" destroyed Pagan temples and carried out massacres of Pagans across Europe. Aside from it's origins, it's a bun for crying out loud. If you're not insecure in your faith, eating Pagan, Jewish or Muslim food won't do anything to you. Didn't Christ say something about it's not what goes in that matters, but what comes out? ;)

      mbossenger - 2012-03-29 20:52

      Mike - easter is a pagan festival anyway..

  • johnnymacza - 2012-03-29 10:06

    I think woolies are seriously confused. hot cross buns are associated with easter not eed.

  • Hermann - 2012-03-29 10:09

    HEY,HEY - and where are the Kosher buns. Is Woollies discriminating against Jews?

      domonique2 - 2012-03-29 10:15

      kosher buns are on sandy bay

      Bud - 2012-03-31 07:06

      Mazaltov -I get my kosher Bacon & halaal gamon from Woolies - great stuff

      Mary - 2012-03-31 19:48

      :-D @ domonique2 ! Nice one.

  • garth.breytenbach - 2012-03-29 10:09

    What next Halaal Easter Eggs!!!! haha, so sad to see a furore of something so stupid- should all muslims and Jewish people avoid Woolworths because they sell wine and pork! If you base your Christianity on silly sh@t like a hot cross bun you need to re-assess!

  • Hussain - 2012-03-29 10:09

    Hot cross buns have been enjoyed by all faiths for many years. I didn't know it was destined for a specific ethnic/religious group. The halaal symbol serves merely as a sign telling muslims that it is free of pork and non halaal products. We are not trying to hijack your religious festivals.

  • charmaine.rowlands - 2012-03-29 10:10

    actually, the hot cross bun is a PAGAN symbol peeps. They used to put stones with a "cross" painted on them at the alter of Estra the goddess of Spring and rebirth. So my Christian brothers and sister please don't get yourselves in knot over this. It's ONLY food. Happy Easter :)

  • Cassandra Olivier - 2012-03-29 10:11

    It just a money making scheme on there part never brought from them to expensive for my taste. I always buy from Pick n Pay.

      charmaine.rowlands - 2012-03-29 10:12

      the PnP ones are actually nicer as well

  • Kimbles29 - 2012-03-29 10:12

    Wow this is really pedantic! What is this world coming to? Maybe from now on they should remove the cross from the buns, and rename them so that they don't have any religious association whatsoever! It seems there's just no pleasing some people.. funny that the muslim people will be happy to eat the buns even though they have a cross on them. Why are the 'christians' being so sensitive? Shoeh.

      Eric - 2012-03-29 10:18

      It's not a cross, it's Juju's signature! ;)

      DuToitCoetzee - 2012-03-29 12:28

      Fair, but than tell me why must the sign be on if they already eating it or why must a recipe be changed. Who is now the sensitive one? If the production is on standard anyone should be accepting it as is or just not eating it. The sign is about religion. Nothing about quality. Do not let anyone bullsh#t you. The religion does not allow certain ingredients. That is the fact!!! It is in other words about religion!

      Barbara - 2012-03-30 12:52

      I'm not so sure they will be happy to eat them even though they have a cross on them, I once heard a muslim woman refuse to buy her child and Easter egg when he asked because "they are evil things" she told him.

  • Jayson - 2012-03-29 10:12

    Wollies make the best hot cross buns. The only problem I see with this, is if you eat the packet with the label on. Then it could problematic. Other than that, no problems.

      Marion - 2012-03-29 10:31

      lol

  • hkonigk - 2012-03-29 10:13

    Ridiculous!

  • hkonigk - 2012-03-29 10:13

    Ridiculous!

      jpstrauss - 2012-03-29 14:06

      So nice he had to say it twice.

      Mary - 2012-03-31 19:51

      Ridiculous is an understatement.

  • sbarends - 2012-03-29 10:14

    I can see why certain people would think this is petty cos its just a symbol BUT if that symbol is not on foods that are presented to muslims , they will refuse to eat, infact they will see it as an insult to their religion. So I as a christian I support the christian society and the arguement, why dont woolies just make the damn hot cross buns in 2 batches HALAAL and UN-HALAAL??? Clearly everyone has the right to eat what they want becos they pay for eat. Luckily I dont eat hotcross buns:)

      christina.engela - 2012-03-29 11:25

      Sure - they have a right to stop buying at Woollies - but it doesn't mean they should expect everybody else to just because they're petty people - or to ban or boycott a business into bankruptcy out of spite and pettiness. As a Pagan, do I call a boycott on Woolies because they only sell Christian magazines and not Pagan ones? People need to grow up and realize that religion or faith is inside you - not outside you.

      Scebberish - 2012-04-01 07:11

      @christina, I see you not well educated on the ways of muslims at all. Travel more. Oh yes I forget, you still in SA because you have no education or intelligence and so no one else wil have you.

  • Mandu - 2012-03-29 10:15

    Oh, come on. Seriously, this is nothing. What is wrong with religious people? Are they going to make a fuss over everything?

      Mary - 2012-03-31 19:52

      They will when we athiests demand that our symbol be present too.

  • Andre - 2012-03-29 10:17

    Easter is sacred for us Christians, but the pass-over has been hijacked by the anti-Christ and changed to an idol pagan god called Ishtar (easter)through the actions of the Roman Catholic Church. The hot cross buns are supposed to be symbolic of the unleavened bread eaten by the Jews in Egypt with Pass Over. The Muslim faith has really got nothing to do with Easter, so why the Halaal?

      Marion - 2012-03-29 10:32

      Huh?

      christina.engela - 2012-03-29 11:31

      Dude - Christianity hijacked our religions 2000 years ago - Easter comes from Eostre btw, along with the eggs and the bunnies. The buns were a Roman Pagan delicacy centuries before Christ. Your Christmas comes from the Roman holiday festival of Saturnalia, complete with the celebrations in December, right down to Santa's hat. Also, in the resurrection, (a son of a god dying and rising from the dead) your forebears copied the Mithraen religion to a "t". So let's not go around throwing stones in glass houses, eh?

      Rohin - 2012-03-29 13:20

      Andre, maybe because someone that is Halaal might want to eat a hot cross bun simply because they like the taste of it. Is that really such an issue?

      Elton - 2012-03-30 13:29

      You idiot...Passover is celebrated by the Jews in rememberance of their Exodus from Egypt (not in Egypt) and the Last Supper in Christianity was actually a Passover meal as per normal. However Easter is a reminder of Jesus' crucifixion and resurrection 3 days later...it has absolutely nothing to do with passover...passover was something that happened the night before his trial, flogging and crucifixion and the Jews still celebrate passover as they do not recognise Jesus as the Messiah!!!

      Mary - 2012-03-31 19:54

      @Andre.... FAIL ! Try to get the facts before showing your ignorance.

  • winston.mullany - 2012-03-29 10:17

    If Muslims want hot cross buns, they buy the normal hot cross buns, if they don't like it, go buy something else, this is Christian religion, not theirs!

      christina.engela - 2012-03-29 11:33

      It's a piece of bread, dude. Grow up.

      winston.mullany - 2012-03-29 12:54

      SubGenuis, who said I was a Christian? I eat Halaal food and I don't complain of their rights to their religion, if I don't like their food I simply go somewhere else! Then again I don't buy Woolies anymore, Pick n Pay has better hot cross buns!

      Chris - 2012-03-29 23:40

      Quite frankly, I'm sick to death of seeing religious stickers on any food.

  • cdwilson3 - 2012-03-29 10:17

    Owing to the fact that the "Hot Cross Bun" is in any case a pagan bun and really has nothing to do with christianity or the resurrection of Christ. Before boycotting Woolworths over a Halaal sticker, it helps to get ones fact in place first. I must also add that I am a follower of Christ, before anyone starts mudslinging.

      Marion - 2012-03-29 10:35

      This is much ado about nothing. Everyone commenting here should go to the Facebook link in the article and comment on the Woolworths fb page.

  • Marina - 2012-03-29 10:20

    Oh for heavens sake! I don't know whether to laugh or cry at the pettiness and ignorance of these people. I wish these fanatic "new fangled" Christians would get a life. I'll bet they know nothing about Islam, because if they did, they would realise that Islam regards Jesus Christ as one of the greatest prophets. I could understand if Woolies had put the Star of David on the buns, but a Halaal mark! These are the people that see Satan in almost every product.

      avril.hopkins - 2012-03-30 09:46

      Marina well said, just one disagreement, what would it matter if they did put on a star of David - respect for all religions and their beliefs and it is just a bun that tastes real good originating from Paganism.

  • clarie.attwell - 2012-03-29 10:20

    If these “Christians” are so concerned about symbolism then perhaps they should look into where the egg and the bunny came from, and how they relate to the death and resurrection of Christ. See link: http://www.ucg.org/doctrinal-beliefs/what-are-real-origins-easter/

  • Jimmy - 2012-03-29 10:21

    do we dare call it a 'hot crossed tali-bun'?

      Liz - 2012-03-29 10:57

      Hahahahaha, awesome!

      Mary - 2012-03-31 20:00

      The "tali-bun: the only bun that might go go "BANG" when you least expect it.