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Woolies facing wrath over hot cross buns

2012-03-29 09:26

Cape Town - Woolworths is facing criticism from a few Christians for putting a Halaal certification mark on its hot cross buns, but a bishop has labelled it "nothing more than a storm in a baking pan".

The Cape Times reported on Thursday that people had written e-mails and used social networking sites to voice disapproval of the use of a Muslim mark on a food that had special significance for Christians.

One Christian wrote on Woolworths Facebook wall: “Ja, its sad to hear the woolies we supported all these years turned their backs on Christians.

“Really disappointed. Lucky we received that email, man its spreading like a wild fire. Proud to say a few people I know are boycotting W, including me [sic].”

Another wrote: “I hate woolworths... How can you do that to the Christians, I hope that God will have mercy on you. And dnt be surprised if your shops run bankrupt.. I will pray to my living God and you will see what he is capable of! [sic]”

SA Catholic Bishops' Conference spokesperson Chris Townsend said people were overreacting and needed to be more understanding.

"Hot cross buns are only a symbol, and not a central tenet of Christianity. There are a lot more weighty issues to deal with in SA than a few 'hot cross Christians'," he was quoted as saying.

The food chain apologised for the upset and said it would release separate buns in future - non-Halaal certified hot cross buns and Halaal certified spiced buns.

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Comments
  • roger.pacey - 2012-03-29 20:50

    Looking at recent activities by Woolworths, the Frankies debacle, now this and the similarity between Vitamin Water and the Woolworths version, I get the impression that the company just does what it likes and is generally disrespectful. Normally, the halaal symbol on hot cross bun issue wouldn't worry me but there's a general nastiness creeping into the way the company does business that puts me off.

  • Trixie - 2012-03-29 20:50

    are they kosher, too?

      Snappy - 2012-03-29 21:13

      aan trixie jou speene man

  • sadiemy - 2012-03-29 20:52

    I find this an unbelievable ridiculous attitude from fellow Christians. The buns are not created and sanctified by Jehovah God or his son Jesus Christ. They are a man made invention. Please, let us object to the use of Christ's name as a swearword, or the dishonouring of one's parents, or lust outside marriage, or stealing or murder. Don't start inventing reasons not to love your neighbour......

      Stanley - 2012-03-29 21:17

      Then why don't they put the halal sign on pork as well?...let me tell you why...it's because it is. religiously wrong for muslims to eeat pork!...so don't say that it's just a man-made thing..STUPID!

  • Stanley - 2012-03-29 21:21

    ALOT OF PEOPLE SAY THAT IT'S NOT A RELIGIOUS SYMBOL AND THAT IT'S JUST A MAN-MADE THING...TELL ME SOMETHING THEN...WHY DON'T THEY PUT THE HALAL SIGN ON PORK????? LET ME TELL YOU WHY....BECAUSE IT IS RELIGIOUSLY WRONG FOR MUSLIMS TO EAT PORK!...SO DO NOT SAY IT HOT CROSS BUNS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RELIGION...STUPID BASTARDS!

      Snappy - 2012-03-29 21:28

      you are so ignorant my man because then the hallal sign must be on curry as well

      Stanley - 2012-03-29 21:57

      So what u r actually saying Snappy,is that Islamic ppl can eat ANY food they like????...I mean...just like curry,that doesn't have the hallal sign...other foods that is not hallal may be consumed by Islamic ppl???...enlighten me on what u r trying to say pls!

      Livvi - 2012-03-30 02:37

      Christians, unlike many other religions, do not have specific dietary requirements. So we eat what we wish, when we choose. Jesus celebrated the Passover and at the meal broke BREAD not raisin buns!! This became His last supper as he was crucified shortly thereafter, conquering satan and death by His resurection - which in fact the basis of our belief and subsequent 'Easter' celebrations. It has nothing to do with any dietary requirements. Their are by the way, certain Christians who as part of their belief, do not eat pork because it is perceived as being unclean i.e. ZCC. So stop getting your nickers in a twist and focus what Jesus did on the cross for us all.

  • Livvi - 2012-03-29 21:33

    As a Christian, I think this group are totally ludicrous!!! What does it matter whether it has the Halaal or Kosher sign on them, what matters is that Jesus died on the cross to save us all. Anyone (irrespective of their beliefs or religion) who turns to the Father and acknowledges Him as their Saviour will be saved. Think of it this way.....while they are eating hot cross buns...they are thinking about the cross!!!

  • Livvi - 2012-03-29 21:35

    As a Christian, I think this group are totally ludicrous!!! What does it matter whether it has the Halaal or Kosher sign on them, what matters is that Jesus died on the cross to save us all. Anyone (irrespective of their beliefs or religion) who turns to the Father and acknowledges Him as their Saviour will be saved. Think of it this way.....while they are eating hot cross buns...they are thinking about the cross!!!

  • rajeshsood - 2012-03-29 21:40

    This issue has nothing to do with religion, its about profit ! Jews and Muslims have strict criteria in terms of what food they eat. By processing food for them woolies is expanding its client base. This works in their favour because most of us dont object in principal to eating food which is halaal or parev. However in principal all people should be treated the same and all religions should be accorded the same respect. Just as an observant jew or muslim will not buy food which has not been processed according to their customs, people of other faiths have a right to object to being fed food blessed in the name of "false gods". If woolies practice irks you, then dont buy any food which is labelled for another religion. Like the red bull saga they will bend over backwards to continue to make a profit.

      Stanley - 2012-03-29 22:02

      I agree 100% with you. My feeling is that it is wrong to make a mockery of another person's religion just for the sake of profit. I mean...will it be okay to put the halaal sign on pork just to expand your customer base?...Don't think so!

      Carla - 2012-03-30 13:54

      @Stanley - how is a sticker on a packet of hot cross buns making a mockery of a religion?

  • Bael - 2012-03-29 22:08

    Halaal certification on hot cross buns is one of the things that I LOVE about this country.

  • edwin.phadu - 2012-03-29 22:14

    I am christian and I dont mind eating halaal food becuase I dont eat pork, I will be happy if all my food can be processed in halaal kitchen.

  • Kayla - 2012-03-29 22:20

    A hot cross bun does not make u a Christian !!!!! Look at people suffering around us and then and use your time to help inatead of complaining about a bun. I think it's great that Wolowrths went the extra mile to make a halaal bun.........

  • Pamela - 2012-03-29 22:28

    Since when do hot cross buns contain pork or alcohol? Woolworths may as well mark all their products Halaal if hot cross buns are marked Halaal.

  • krlvorster - 2012-03-29 22:52

    Both Halaal and non-halaal? What a farce - the bakers themselves are most propably "unclean" according to the directives - so is the recipe - the only difference will be the sticker on the packet. Most food in SA nowadays is halaal by default. I am a chef, and should know.... Ridiculous

  • Richard - 2012-03-29 22:56

    Christians should not be taking there business away from Woolworths, but should just refuse to buy the halaal hot cross buns and any halaal foods in general. If anyone on this forum has read 1 Corinthians (in the new testament) you would understand.

  • chrisgiffard - 2012-03-29 23:00

    Bunch of loonies. Please go live somewhere else.

  • Ken - 2012-03-29 23:14

    What most people don't understand about this article is what the halaal sticker on the food represent! It actually means that a minority religion (there are only 1.6 million muslims in SA) are holding a whole nation no matter what race , religion or origin to ransom to pay an wholly unnecessary levy on food just because they demand everthing to be halaal! Time to wake up! As soon as a Christian complains or says anything it becomes an issue! Woolies won't admit but they are being held to ramsom!

  • dunehadad - 2012-03-29 23:21

    Seriously? A furor over a Halaal sticker? What are we animals? Have we no decency? I dont understand how a company who is trying to serve its customers by putting them at ease (if they follow religious dietry laws). Christians, please stand aside. Its the 21st Centuary. Love thy brother as thy loves thyself.

  • Chris - 2012-03-29 23:33

    How about we have Christian certification? Then religious groups who are not Christian know what not to eat? A neat little red cross would do. This is such a silly argument. What would happen is people stopped buying goods with the halaal mark?

  • Jonathan - 2012-03-29 23:50

    What has hot cross buns got to do with Christianity or Easter (Passover)for that matter. If you claim to be a Christian go and read your Bibles again. Since when is hot cross buns a symbol of Christianity??

  • Siegeknives - 2012-03-29 23:53

    Don't we have better things to do then complain about every little thing... Hot cross buns... Seriously, hot cross buns? National news? Really? I burnt my toast this morning, maybe it'll turn into an international inccident ;)

  • Siegeknives - 2012-03-29 23:54

    Don't we have better things to do then complain about every little thing... Hot cross buns... Seriously, hot cross buns? National news? Really? I burnt my toast this morning, maybe it'll turn into an international inccident ;)

  • Maximus Odinidus - 2012-03-29 23:54

    I would like to offer an opinion. Easter could be a pagan tradition but hot cross buns and pickle fish are have nothing to do with the easter bunny. It is in remembrance of the two little fish and 5 loaves of bread that we eat pickled fish and hot x buns. Also the three day event is to celebrate the death and resurrection of JC. We don't worship a woman who fornicates with bunnies and lays duck eggs.

  • barry.mobey - 2012-03-30 00:02

    This is absolutely ridiculous... As a Christian, who has walked many years with our Lord, I cannot believe just how easily some fellow believers are blinded by rituals of religious doctrine & become so tied up by it, that they miss the crux of our faith... WHICH IS TO CULTIVATE & NURTURE OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD! If we spent as much time, energy & devotion doing that,instead of looking for evil, the world would be a much better place & the devil would long ago have drowned in his own tracks of ennui! Easter was never a Christian celebration. It was 1 of the 2 biggest festivals observed by the pagan religions & was celebrated by the Assyrians, Phoenicians, Philistines & the Babylonians, long before Jesus was born. Easter was a religious celebration to the Pagan "Queen of Heaven," the Mother of life, the Goddess Ishtar, the Goddess of fertility. The exact same fertility symbols (eggs, rabbits & buns)were used. The buns were baked for the Great Mother, with the cross symbol indicating the female. Jesus told us in scripture to keep the passover in memory of his death and resurrection.. Never did he ordain Easter as a Christian celebration! It was not ordained as a Christian celebration until after the Nicene Council, which was convened in 325AD. Christians, who've been offended by this, research the origin of Easter yourself & then devote your time & energy to cultivating a deeper relationship with your Father. Satan is defeated, no one can improve the finished work of Christ..

  • Euphoric - 2012-03-30 00:09

    food isn't blessed for it to be halaal. firstly, if it is meat, it has to be killed with the name of god. in fact, its halaal if any practising muslim, jew or christian kills it with the name of god. which is why kosher is halaal as well. halaal stamps are adopted by the corporates because it makes economical sense to them. but it shouldn't be put to economics. people should just respect everyone. economically speaking, it's visible to see a slight minority up in arms. so boycott if you need. i doubt woolies will care. they cant please everyone.

  • chris.andersonSA - 2012-03-30 00:17

    Thank you Woolies! Woolies are awesome for doing what they have done - trying to bring people together! We need to stop fighting with each other!

  • ferdivanrooyen - 2012-03-30 01:51

    I'm not a religious nut. In fact, what I am is irrelevant. What is wrong with Hot Cross Buns being labelled as safe for a certain demographic(religion) to consume? If it was labelled safe for vegetarians, it wouldn't have been an issue, though its essentially the same thing; stating the content of the product, as is legally required. Actually, using a religiously associated word with a religiously (wrongfully) associated food/product, isn't even the issue here. In fact, this isn't even about religion, because a real faithful person (Christian, Muslim, Hindu, etc) will know that his God wishes him to respect another religion, be kind towards them,love them, and allow them to co-exist and practice their faith in peace. Allowing them to be informed about what is safe to eat is kind, and respectful, is it not? And its religiously expected. What it is about, is petty individuals who, for the sake of attention towards themselves, have raised an invalid argument by wielding religion as a flag in order to make the topic stand out. Why? Because for the lack of better term, they are hollow. I'm sorry to say, but every person that disagrees for religious reasons, is pretentious about their religious status and doesn't understand, nor respect or care, for the first thing about it. If you think God cares about a sticker on a packet of dough balls, I'm compelled to say that the devil already owns you, you just don't know it yet. "Hell of a surprise" comes to mind...

  • ferdivanrooyen - 2012-03-30 01:51

    I'm not a religious nut. In fact, what I am is irrelevant. What is wrong with Hot Cross Buns being labelled as safe for a certain demographic(religion) to consume? If it was labelled safe for vegetarians, it wouldn't have been an issue, though its essentially the same thing; stating the content of the product, as is legally required. Actually, using a religiously associated word with a religiously (wrongfully) associated food/product, isn't even the issue here. In fact, this isn't even about religion, because a real faithful person (Christian, Muslim, Hindu, etc) will know that his God wishes him to respect another religion, be kind towards them,love them, and allow them to co-exist and practice their faith in peace. Allowing them to be informed about what is safe to eat is kind, and respectful, is it not? And its religiously expected. What it is about, is petty individuals who, for the sake of attention towards themselves, have raised an invalid argument by wielding religion as a flag in order to make the topic stand out. Why? Because for the lack of better term, they are hollow. I'm sorry to say, but every person that disagrees for religious reasons, is pretentious about their religious status and doesn't understand, nor respect or care, for the first thing about it. If you think God cares about a sticker on a packet of dough balls, I'm compelled to say that the devil already owns you, you just don't know it yet. "Hell of a surprise" comes to mind...

  • j.m.donaldson - 2012-03-30 02:32

    Bible bashers on all sides can get so out of hand! What makes all of you think you're so right? People need to keep a level head here. Personally, the only problems I have with Halal are the senseless religious restriction of diet and the outdated method of slaughter which includes the pointless suffering of the animal - when it's already giving its life - but then I don't see anybody complaining about that. If you ask me, it's completely outdated thinking and we should all be focussing on how to evolve and survive our future when we're consuming far more resources than our planet can support. Put the pettyness aside, please - and come to your senses.

  • johndekock1 - 2012-03-30 04:03

    Goodness gracious

  • beryl.knipe - 2012-03-30 06:11

    OMG!! I don't believe this! Oh crumbs! Well, to all professing Christians out there, go take a look and delve into the TRUE meaning behind your hot-cross buns and Easter. Once you've researched the subject you won't worry one iota about those raisin buns. :)

  • holder783 - 2012-03-30 06:11

    Goodness get over yourselves. I'm sure u people complaining probably do not live up to the principle of christanity hence the big deal u making. No Muslim goes crazy when u eat their curry or join in on Ramadan feast. Go to ur Christian countries where all ur little concerns will be heard. As for your paegen beliefs of eating a bun and think u honouring Jesus. Please

  • MoeParak - 2012-03-30 06:12

    This is just the dumbest thing ever, people are commenting that foods certified halal are "blessed" by a islamic religious figure, are they meaning to say that every hot cross bun woolworths sells is personally blessed??? Stamping it halal simply means that the ingredients do not contain anything that is considered "haram"(not permissible for cossumption)by islamic standards. I dont see any problem with this. people shud get there facts right before posting nonsense. Once again the naivety of the masses disrupt.

  • Johann - 2012-03-30 06:12

    Come on these people aren't Christian the y are those bible punching bastards ,that walk around with the ten commandments and condem and judge and trough out tha ages has given Christianaty a bad name

  • Lauren - 2012-03-30 06:59

    and i thought South Africans were open minded PS I'm Christian and I eat matzos - big f-ing deal!

  • Juanita - 2012-03-30 07:07

    Much ado about nothing. If eatin bun influences your faith then eat something else

  • Juanita - 2012-03-30 07:09

    Much ado about nothing. If eating a bun influence your weak faith then just eat something else

  • Heloise - 2012-03-30 07:26

    Christians! It's just buns! Food! That's all! As Christians, your outward light should shine to all people. At the moment, you are being very vindictive. In any event, buns are just food for us all to enjoy. Good Friday and Easter which we celebrate is about what Jesus did for us. He set us free. Don't let buns destroy what is really truly evident here. Woolies - as a Christian - I will STILL be BUYING YOUR BUNS! I think they are delicious. I love Jesus with all my heart and I really don't think that your buns will make an utter difference in my life. I say HEY! WOOLIES - I DON'T MIND! Some people are just acting out of spite. And YES! AS A CHRISTIAN I EAT MATZAH BREAD AS WELL!

  • Angela - 2012-03-30 07:29

    In repsonse the the queries re Hot Cross buns : "In 1361, a monk named Father Thomas Rockcliffe began a tradition of giving Hot Cross Buns to the poor of St Albans on Good Friday."

  • Abisali - 2012-03-30 07:29

    As the smallest minority in South Africa, our rights take precedence over everybody else. It's called incremental assumption of authority. Soon Sharia will be established.

  • Lisa - 2012-03-30 07:32

    wow, some Christians really have too much time on their hands! its a hot cross bun!! who cares if it is halaal or not!?! i would like to know if those particular "Christians" who complained, only buy foods that DON'T have the Halaal or Kosher symbols?? coz... that would be a "sin" u know... lol

  • Lisa - 2012-03-30 07:38

    mmmmmmmm.. i feel like a woolies hot cross bun now - yum!

  • julie.khan3 - 2012-03-30 07:43

    Woolworths has done nothing wrong.Yes ,I have eaten Hot Cross Buns all my life..and will continue doing provided that all the ingredients used are halaal

  • rifat.booley - 2012-03-30 07:54

    Does anybody know what is going around in the world? We have kids starving of hunger all over the world. Appreciate the fact that you can eat

  • Rudluv7 - 2012-03-30 08:00

    This is by far the most dumbest story i've read here all this noise for stupid hot cross buns?!?!

  • tokoziza - 2012-03-30 08:00

    Christians should just get over themselves already!!!

  • Paola - 2012-03-30 08:03

    I'm Christian and people need to get over this rubbish. There is only one God whether he be worshipped in the way of Islam of Christianity. Seriously people, get lives. Kids are dying of starvation or abuse, people are eating crap off the streets just to live. Know your priorities.

  • MarkSchrade1980 - 2012-03-30 08:04

    Don't understand how ppl can get upset over a god that does not exist

  • allister.keay - 2012-03-30 08:04

    Christians should be thankful to Woolworths, as the Halaal mark is closer to kosher than any non halaal food. Just think with out a halaal mark you could have pork products in your hot cross bun.

  • PatrickLlewellynThomas - 2012-03-30 08:08

    I'm a Christian and did I miss the memo or something...Its a FREAKIN HOTCROSS BUN!!! Please tell me where in the Bible did this feature and how does this relate to Jesus LAST command to save the lost and make disciples??? Come on people, lets get back to the core of Christianity!!!

  • Kevin - 2012-03-30 08:11

    I think it is the muslims that should be offended, marring their halaal foods with a christian cross...One word, Juvenile....

  • stephen.twine - 2012-03-30 08:15

    Really people ... as Christians I would think ANY WAY to spread the message would be better than NO WAY ... If a Moslem person wants to go buy my hot cross buns because they have a halaal sticker on it then by all means let him buy them ... I praise God there is a way to spread the message that Christ died for us on the cross even if it is in subliminal messages on spicy buns with raisens in them heheheheh 1 Thessalonians 5:16-18 New International Version (NIV) 16 Rejoice always, 17 pray continually, 18 give thanks in all circumstances; for this is God’s will for you in Christ Jesus. You hear that Christian's ... GIVE THANKS not critisism Go Woolies HotXbuns!!!

      MarkSchrade1980 - 2012-03-30 08:22

      Why rejoice? No god = No god to rejoice for!!!