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Woolies facing wrath over hot cross buns

2012-03-29 09:26

Cape Town - Woolworths is facing criticism from a few Christians for putting a Halaal certification mark on its hot cross buns, but a bishop has labelled it "nothing more than a storm in a baking pan".

The Cape Times reported on Thursday that people had written e-mails and used social networking sites to voice disapproval of the use of a Muslim mark on a food that had special significance for Christians.

One Christian wrote on Woolworths Facebook wall: “Ja, its sad to hear the woolies we supported all these years turned their backs on Christians.

“Really disappointed. Lucky we received that email, man its spreading like a wild fire. Proud to say a few people I know are boycotting W, including me [sic].”

Another wrote: “I hate woolworths... How can you do that to the Christians, I hope that God will have mercy on you. And dnt be surprised if your shops run bankrupt.. I will pray to my living God and you will see what he is capable of! [sic]”

SA Catholic Bishops' Conference spokesperson Chris Townsend said people were overreacting and needed to be more understanding.

"Hot cross buns are only a symbol, and not a central tenet of Christianity. There are a lot more weighty issues to deal with in SA than a few 'hot cross Christians'," he was quoted as saying.

The food chain apologised for the upset and said it would release separate buns in future - non-Halaal certified hot cross buns and Halaal certified spiced buns.

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Comments
  • Xinobia - 2012-03-30 08:24

    Aren't Christians supposed to act and react to situations in a godly manner. Shouldn't they handle it in a way that God himself would? I'm a Christian and I think it's silly for people to pray that Woolworths goes down because of this. I'm sure that it's not only Christians who are allowed to eat these. Nobody at the till check your Christianity when you buy hot cross buns, maybe they should give a Bible questionnaire to possible buyers and if the pass the deserve to buy the hot cross buns.

  • Ebrahim - 2012-03-30 08:24

    @Wayne. You need to have a better understanding on Halaal and Non Halaal. The only time a prayer (taking gods name) is read to constitute the product to be Halaal is when sacrificing an animal. With regards to the ingredients in the hot cross bun the halaal stamp must have been put on to show that there isnt any non halaal ingredients eg like gelatine from animals. So if one had a better understanding of halaal and non Halaal one would know that there isnt anyone in the bakery praying on every bun that is baked.

  • Bathabile - 2012-03-30 08:25

    I'm a Christian and I'm not phased by the Halaal mark on the buns. It's just buns!

  • seradebe - 2012-03-30 08:26

    I'm a Christian and I don't even know what a "hot cross bun" is. A bun is a bun to me and has nothing to do with Christianity.

      Angela - 2012-03-31 11:46

      In repsonse the the queries re Hot Cross buns : "In 1361, a monk named Father Thomas Rockcliffe began a tradition of giving Hot Cross Buns to the poor of St Albans on Good Friday."

  • Jacqui - 2012-03-30 08:26

    Tainted that's what they are. Does everyone know that a portion of the cost of any item with a halaal sign on it goes to the Islamic cause? and of course the shops pass the cost on to us. I have often asked why they don't have a non-halaal food area in the supermarkets as currently I don't have too much freedom of choice in this regard.

  • Eric - 2012-03-30 08:26

    This now gets on my...90% of South Africans are Christians and 1.5% are moslems. Now we have a halaal sticker on our hot cross buns. for what reason

      Shamier - 2012-03-30 09:12

      Check your stats again buddy...And again, catering for a wider customer base = greater revenue...that 1.5% have a lot of spending power.

  • lskosana3 - 2012-03-30 08:28

    709 comments over HOT CROSS BUNS!!! If you religious people can't see how small-minded your faith has made you...

  • Heidi - 2012-03-30 08:32

    Christians - get over yourselves!!! The one thing about Christians are that they truly are the MOST JUDGEMENTAL RELIGION - obviously going against one of the crucial "rules" of their bible!!

  • Charles - 2012-03-30 08:36

    Hot cross christians lol

  • ria.wilson - 2012-03-30 08:37

    I wonder how many other products do these complaining Christians buy that bear the halaal mark. There is very little on the shelves these days without it. Why complain about hot cross buns, which are the food of idols anyway? "Christianity" is not supposed to be about buns and stuff, it's supposed to be about following the Messiah. I'm positive He did not eat hot cross buns - and definitely not at Passover, when unleavened bread is to be eaten, according to Scripture.

  • Cre8tivedave - 2012-03-30 08:50

    religion is a load of bull its So pathetic the fact that some religions cant eat this and that others object to a symbol If you are hungry and there was just one thing to eat you wouldn't care whot it was or whot was stuck on the label

  • swartskapie - 2012-03-30 08:51

    "I hate woolworths.." First wrong thing in christianity!! You don't hate and you don't judge! Christians can be so judgemental! So what if there is a sticker on stating its halaal. God won't seriously punish muslims or woolies just because it is halaal! God doesn't judge so who give them the right! Some people have to get their priorities right, or just read the Bible again or maybe pay attention in church! I have no problem with food being halaal, kosher or anything else! Gosh some people are just ignorant

  • E=MC2 - 2012-03-30 09:04

    this is where "Christians" irritate me!! Since when has Christianity been reduced to hot cross buns & easter eggs?!?!

  • Doug - 2012-03-30 09:05

    So are these idiots saying that because you are Christian you cant eat Muslim food ?? (same argument) what a bunch of plonkers ...

  • padayachee - 2012-03-30 09:06

    Lmao!! Im christian and I love hotcross buns, with or without the Halaal sign, If these people were real christians, They should imbrase the fact that we can share these goods with our fellow brothers and sisters!! shame on you all! "what would Jesus do"

  • Janine - 2012-03-30 09:07

    Quesion is, am I sinning by eating these delicious buns? And if so, in whose eyes am I sinning? And have you tasted the CHOCOLATE ones? Oh my word they are divine!

  • Holly - 2012-03-30 09:10

    Since when are christian's the only people that are allowed to eat and enjoy hot cross buns?? Im sure there are much more important things to get upset about, the raping of our children, the destitute, unemployment and homeless. Rather unchristian-like of our 'Christians' dont you think? Please focus on the important issues and dont create issues out of nothing. What happened to love thy neighbour?

  • Jill - 2012-03-30 09:13

    All I would like to know is what would happen if they place a Halaal sticker on Kosher products what would happen.

  • Remi - 2012-03-30 09:15

    Seriously guys. I cannot believe how anal some people in this world can be in this day and age. Besides, hot cross buns taste pretty crap and are unhealthy for you.

  • Sloppycowtits - 2012-03-30 09:16

    I think its great that we now have Halaal Hotcross Buns, now all Muslims can participate in remembering the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ!

  • donne.conradie - 2012-03-30 09:27

    Oh wow.... Im a christian and I sure as hell am not offended!!! Some people seriously need to get a life... its just bun!!!! Putting a halal mark on the bun isn't changing anything... its still a hot cross bun! We should be saying "Yay! Now more people can enjoy hot cross buns!!!" Those Christians need to get a wake up - they giving the rest of us a bad name and making me embarrassed to even call myself a Christian!!! No wonder theres so many atheists around and they all hate us!

      Sibongile - 2012-03-30 09:51

      Remember Donne, the devil will use the weaker amongst us. We should pray for them. We have been warned; he is the deceiver of the brethren.

  • Carmen - 2012-03-30 09:30

    It is people like these that give Christianity a bad name. Can't we all live together? What is the big deal about a bun anyway? There are so many bigger issues in the world, why spend to much energy on a trivial one?

  • avril.hopkins - 2012-03-30 09:36

    "Although non-meat items are neutral in terms of Islamic Law, the processing procedures, food additives, preparation areas, etc. also must be free from non-Halaal contaminants." for you that do not have a clue what Halaal means, here it is from SANHA - "Reasons for food being considered non-kosher include the presence of ingredients derived from non-kosher animals or from kosher animals that were not properly slaughtered, a mixture of meat and milk, wine or grape juice (and their derivatives) produced by gentiles, the use of produce from Israel that has not been tithed properly, or even the use of cooking utensils and machinery which had previously been used for non-kosher food. " - Kashrut Now everyone knows the definitions...as mentioned by many hot crossbuns and all the other paraphanalia with easter and many other christian holidays originates from Pagans..so with all this in mind for goodness sake it is food, and because certain religious groups want to ensure that what they eat is not contaminated by what they do not eat, what is the big deal here???????????? I feel a song coming on - R E S P E C T

  • Sibongile - 2012-03-30 09:42

    Can't you all see that this just an plot from the devil, trying to divert our focus from the Easter celebrations? This is no time for Christian to be worring about what the world does or doesn't do. Remember the middle cross, where Jesus was hung so that you and I could have life and life abundance, where are sins were fogiven, where we were freed from the law and religion.The cross will never loose it's power. My brothers and sisters in Christ, what worries you more, hot cross buns or the souls dying without knowing Christ? Time top reflect.

  • catgirl1971 - 2012-03-30 09:43

    Oh 4 goodness' sake!!!! And I suppose they don't eat Halaal food???? Get a life!

  • Arrione - 2012-03-30 09:45

    ja....! hot cross buns just the name alone told you that this is making a mockery of christianity!

  • Enid - 2012-03-30 09:46

    If we are going to do Halaal hot cross buns, why çan't we go the next step and do Kosher hot cross buns??

  • jacomal - 2012-03-30 09:58

    Party mense le nagte wakker en dink aan goed om oor te kla ! Kry eerder 'n stokpertjie om jou besig te hou as om oor als te kla !

  • jpstrauss - 2012-03-30 10:08

    This wasn't a big deal until 24.com started writing about what a big deal it is.

  • Michael - 2012-03-30 10:14

    @Jean where do you get off? Hot cross buns are traditionally eaten hot or toasted on Good Friday, with the cross standing as a symbol of the Crucifixion. They are believed by some to pre-date Christianity! They have been a symbol of christianity for decades... It's like putting a Chelsea badge on a Man Utd shirt....

  • Roberta - 2012-03-30 10:16

    To the people out there claiming to be christians,read this there are homeless,parentless neglegted people out there and you going on about buns innocent people are being shot at by insane drug induced gangsters and you complaing about buns just how much are you committed to GOD than to symbols?

  • C-live - 2012-03-30 10:16

    A man for himself but God for us all, Muslim or Christian!

  • radlegend - 2012-03-30 10:19

    The people who complain are simply retarded. Really? There are surely better things to complain about... -_-

  • Justin - 2012-03-30 10:28

    What do you get if you poor hot water down a rabbit hole...hot cross bunnies. What do you get if you insult narrow minded people of single blinded faith?

  • wrkruger - 2012-03-30 10:40

    LOL Friday stupidity

  • hester.fourie - 2012-03-30 10:41

    if you have a problem with it don't buy it

  • Cynthia - 2012-03-30 10:44

    Really, that is soooooo petty! That symbol does not take away one iota of my belief in my religion. Please do not be so picky about little things that really don't change your life one way or another.

  • Riad - 2012-03-30 10:55

    For those that have a misconception by not understanding why the HOTly contested BUN is all about that's getting people CROSS, allow me to explain as follows; This means that Woolies Hot+Bun has been subjected to approved “Halaal” (means “Lawful”) certification systems which guarantee us, the Muslim consumers, that nothing in their Hot+Bun has any forbidden components i.e blood, alcohol, meat or any products (eg. gelatine) from a forbidden animal, including pigs and any carnivorous animals or birds of prey meat or any products of an animal which has not been slaughtered in the correct manner as prescribed by Sharia. It also assure the Muslim consumers that the facility that these Hot+Bun where made in was not contaminated through contact with any of the above products mentioned were in that would be “Haraam” (meaning “Un-Lawful”) or even any product or baking aid or item that was used in the process, such as a simple thing as a baking brush, which bristle may come from a pig, that's used when brushing the hot syrup generously over the top of the hot buns. Hope this would enlighten those that never really understood what ‘Halaal’ means to Muslims at large.

  • Rupal - 2012-03-30 10:57

    har de har har!!!!!

  • smirres - 2012-03-30 11:01

    i'm sure the pope himself couldn't care less. get over yourselves! oh yes... and I'm a proud Christian!

  • muhammad.rassool - 2012-03-30 11:17

    This is really pathetic. Please in future, dont drink bottled water, drink milk, eat cereals, buy can foods, etc, cos they all have halaal stamps. These people are really living in the dark - I read multiple mails that said they would not eat these buns cos they prayed over...that is too much humour for a Friday. C'mon people wake up and stop looking at the world with tunnel vision.

  • deidret - 2012-03-30 11:30

    I think these so called christians are rather very petty, and I dont think woolies will care if they boycott them really.....since when is hot cross buns a religious thing...its tradition so are they also gonna moan about the halaal stamp been put on the fish

  • Eon.du.Plessis - 2012-03-30 11:36

    Still just food in my eyes. But this article was amusing. How can people get so worked up about Hot cross buns? Believe me, and I am talking to those offended in this case, the time will come for most of you to face the Hot Cross buns. Then you can chew on it. Chew it like you mean it. And if you are healthy and old-school, you will chew it 32 times. Then swallow it. And the epic biological journey for the hot cross buns will begin.

  • Gary - 2012-03-30 11:39

    If it wasn't for "CHRISTIANS" there would be a lot more christians!!

  • ferdivanrooyen - 2012-03-30 11:39

    I'm not a religious nut. In fact, what I am is irrelevant. What is wrong with Hot Cross Buns being labelled as safe for a certain demographic(religion) to consume? If it was labelled safe for vegetarians, it wouldn't have been an issue, though its essentially the same thing; stating the content of the product, as is legally required. Actually, using a religiously associated word with a religiously (wrongfully) associated food/product, isn't even the issue here. In fact, this isn't even about religion, because a real faithful person (Christian, Muslim, Hindu, etc) will know that his God wishes him to respect another religion, be kind towards them,love them, and allow them to co-exist and practice their faith in peace. Allowing them to be informed about what is safe to eat is kind, and respectful, is it not? And its religiously expected. What it is about, is petty individuals who, for the sake of attention towards themselves, have raised an invalid argument by wielding religion as a flag in order to make the topic stand out. Why? Because for the lack of better term, they are hollow. I'm sorry to say, but every person that disagrees for religious reasons, is pretentious about their religious status and doesn't understand, nor respect or care, for the first thing about it. If you think God cares about a sticker on a packet of dough balls, I'm compelled to say that the devil already owns you, you just don't know it yet. "Hell of a surprise" comes to mind...

  • Gary - 2012-03-30 11:42

    If it wasn't for "CHRISTIANS" there would be a lot more christians!

  • Sandi - 2012-03-30 11:44

    Some people clearly have to much time on their hands.

  • sheldon.francois - 2012-03-30 11:48

    I love a good 'bun' fight

  • C-live - 2012-03-30 11:49

    A man for himself but God for us all, Christian or Muslim

  • shaun.mannion1 - 2012-03-30 12:01

    Oh the inhumanity of it all!!!! pathetic! I am so glad I am an atheist!! dumb stuff like this is nothing more than a very stupid joke to me!