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Zuma art case postponed indefinitely

2012-05-24 15:26

Johannesburg - The South Gauteng High Court in Johannesburg has indefinitely postponed a court application by the ANC and President Jacob Zuma to remove a portrait depicting him with his genitals exposed from an art gallery exhibition.

The court also ruled on Thursday that video footage of the African National Congress's lawyer breaking down may not be televised.

"Before we postpone the matter there is another thing that has to be dealt with," said Judge Neels Claassen.

"It has been brought to the court's notice that the portion where the ANC and Zuma's advocate Gcina Malindi broke down has been televised.

"And, as a full court, we are of the view that should not be further televised," he said.

This would apply locally and internationally.

The case was then indefinitely postponed. Another date would be set and another full Bench constituted.

Malindi was responding to a question on changes in South Africa, when Claassen suddenly adjourned the court shortly before noon.

Word spread that Malindi had broken down and he was surrounded by colleagues before leaving the courtroom.

'Censored'

"I was just overcome by emotions," he said after the case was postponed.

Government spokesperson Jimmy Manyi said he was "appalled" and "disappointed" that e.tv had censored visuals of Malindi's breakdown.

"Government believes that, in this particular instance, e.tv was biased and failed to broadcast a true reflection of the court proceedings," he said.

"e.tv censored the visuals that would have shown his deep pain and emotion, that expressed the culmination of the sentiment of humiliation and denigration of the dignity of President Jacob Zuma, his office and the African culture that is shared by millions of South Africans."

In response, eNews said that in the past it had been criticised by the judiciary for airing sensational material unrelated to matters being argued.

"Firstly, eNews respects the rule of law. Advocate Malindi's breakdown was unexpected and caught our team off-guard. The decision was taken not to broadcast the clip until we had clarity from the judges," said group head of news Patrick Conroy.

It was mindful that the court might have taken a dim view of this being broadcast, regardless of editorial opinion.

"What the Government Communication and Information System (GCIS) fails to recognise is that normal editorial rules do not apply when filming in court. There are judicial sensitivities we must be mindful of and respect," said Conroy.

The ANC, Zuma and his children want the Brett Murray painting titled The Spear removed from the Goodman Gallery in Johannesburg.

Two people were filmed painting over it on Tuesday, because they believed it violates Zuma's Constitutional right to dignity.

Freedom of expression

The gallery and City Press, which posted a picture of the painting on its website, have refused to remove the image arguing censorship and a constitutional right to freedom of expression.

Throughout the day, a large crowd of ANC supporters gathered outside the court to show their support for Zuma.

Most of the group wore ANC T-shirts and sang in front of the court building. Some displayed posters reading: "President Zuma has a right to human dignity and privacy".

During the adjournment, ANC secretary general Gwede Mantashe asked the crowd to march on the Goodman Gallery in Rosebank on Tuesday.

"The march must be successful and it must send a clear message.

"African culture is not inferior. We must protect African-ness," Mantashe told the crowd.

Boycott

He echoed SA Communist Party leader Blade Nzimande's call to boycott City Press.

Earlier, in response to calls for a boycott, City Press editor-in-chief Ferial Haffajee said: "As an editor, one tries one's best to be first with the news and to maximise your newspaper's impact. No one wants a boycott."

The Azanian People's Organisation rallied behind City Press and said it was disturbed by Nzimande's call to boycott the newspaper.

"We find this call irresponsible, intolerant and foolish, more so from a person of his political and academic standing," its national deputy spokesperson Funani ka Ntontela said in a statement.

ANC national spokesperson Jackson Mthembu, who also addressed the crowd outside the court, said the guard who stopped vandals from destroying the picture was "a fool".

About Malindi, he said: "Our lawyers are also simple people. Our lawyers also become overcome by this nonsense."

ANC Gauteng provincial secretary David Makhura said he would defend anyone who was insulted in the name of art.

Duduzile Zuma thanked the crowd for supporting her father.

Umkhonto we Sizwe national chair Kenny Mapatswe said the ANC's military wing would come to court again and again to defend dignity.

He said a review of the Constitution had to be considered. "In other countries [the painting] would never happen," he said.

Comments
  • Antipoaching - 2012-05-24 15:29

    this is a rubbish bit of reporting, why was it postponed?

      Stefans - 2012-05-24 15:32

      Why is it "rubbish reporting"? afterall the court decided to postpone the matter to a future date. The reporter is just reporting what the court said.

      E=MC2 - 2012-05-24 15:33

      because the ANC's logic isnt logic after all

      Ben - 2012-05-24 15:34

      So that the ANC lawyer can pull himself together... lol!

      Janice - 2012-05-24 15:35

      CIRCUS - yet again!!!

      mihaip007 - 2012-05-24 15:37

      aaaaah - we were hoping to see the footage! grrr..! But hang on a second he said Internationally as well - HOW do these guys love to be inconsistent themselves! Did he not say it ought to be difficult to police international display of the painting? So how is he going to do that for the footage? If it is on the internet, it is loose hehehehe..!

      Matthew - 2012-05-24 15:38

      The ANC lawyer is an actor,he did that for this exact reaction.theres too much publicity for the anc and they know it.whether the goal was to pospone the case indefinately or to get the camera's out of the room,either way it was staged and the judges bought it =/ sad times for south africa

      arthur.hugh - 2012-05-24 15:38

      It's not rubbish reporting so much as the whole case is rubbish.

      Rudi - 2012-05-24 15:38

      Please, all the ANC supporters out there, please don't pull the race card on this one. You have played all your racecards for the next couple of centuries. In fact, from now on, try to limit playing your race card to once a decade.

      JohnSloan - 2012-05-24 15:38

      Listen to the white people shouting "freedom of expression" but when people talk about racism and the racist system of white supremacy, white people should "gag him!"

      JohnSloan - 2012-05-24 15:39

      The past is in the present. White people continue to live in a bubble of privilege and denial even though apartheid is technically over. Wealth and knowledge are inter-generational resources therefore what happens in one generation will effect the following generations.

      mihaip007 - 2012-05-24 15:40

      @Rudi - LOL Too Late!!! JohnSloan already pulled it hahahahaha...

      Christopher - 2012-05-24 15:41

      anc Is like a wounded animal, going back to their corner and licking their pride, whats left of it. And when they come out again thats when they are going to land flat on their faces, but then they will blame it on racism because they lost again. Hopeless sad party...It used to be a mighty proud party now its a beleaguered little shadow of its former self.

      Bryan - 2012-05-24 15:42

      @John Sloan.. There is no system of white supremacy in this country..Your comment holds no ground and is completely lacking of any sense! I will send you a sign...

      Kala - 2012-05-24 15:54

      So if the painting gets banned (from what I'm not sure as it has be ruined) how is the anc going to make sure I don't use an image of it as my desktop back ground? And I would use it for no other reason than the fact that the anc banned it.

      Andre - 2012-05-24 16:20

      This is going to be known as the case that never should have been!

      Gordon - 2012-05-24 16:21

      Considering that this is not a party matter, but a personal one for Zuma, 1. Who is going to pay for the ANC lawyers? 2. How did the ANC lawyers not know this basic element of the law before proceeding, or alternatively, how did they accept the case in good conscience knowing that it was not a party matter and therefore that they had no chance of winning?

      Mike - 2012-05-24 17:49

      It is a fundamental principle that a court cannot make a ruling if it cannot enforce it, it's the same all over the world. The moment I saw the painting had been defaced I could no longer understand why the anc's counsel didn't advise them to withdraw instead of bursting into tears.

      Vince.York - 2012-05-24 20:38

      The ONLY cure to this saga is for "everyone" to appear in and around the courts wearing Only black paint in the focal area of this case - and probably best to have another close by to keep rubbing it to stem the Jozi cold.

  • deabreu - 2012-05-24 15:31

    This means that the painting is not banned for now. Zuma will be pissed!

      E=MC2 - 2012-05-24 15:32

      excuse the pun!! hahaha

      neels.swart.7 - 2012-05-24 15:32

      Who cares

      Anthony - 2012-05-24 15:39

      rather pissed off than pissed on hahaha

      Stefans - 2012-05-24 15:43

      As the judge said they cannot ban the painting, however the court has to determine and rule whether freedom of speech and expression supersede the right to dignity and respect of a person. In other words the court has to determine whether Freedom of speech and expression is absolute or not.

      mihaip007 - 2012-05-24 15:54

      ... well now! I heard that they CAN save the painting if the cover paint was oil based. So... now they can fix it, hang it back and re-open the gallery...lol

      Patrick - 2012-05-24 15:58

      50 million people, and this miscreant is what we have as a leader.

      Patsy - 2012-05-25 11:03

      Absolutely NO point in banning a painting that has already travelled the world. It should be remembered that if you do not want people to make a fool of you - Do not ACT like a fool. I hope the man who bought the painting sues the two defacers for everything they have got. And I hope it does clean up well.

  • Tax - 2012-05-24 15:32

    The ANC must be loving the fact that the advocate's breakdown was televised. First the race card then the struggle card and finally the sympathy card.

      Alan - 2012-05-24 15:50

      now we just need to send the anc a get well card.

      Irene - 2012-05-24 15:54

      First it's the struggle card, then the race card and when all else fails it's the culture card. Pathetic how these cards always have to be used to cover up sheer backwardness and incompetence.

      George - 2012-05-24 15:59

      Funny, they have no problem tacitly condoning white genocide, rape of children, torture of old people. What an anomaly, no wonder they are called the cANCer society. As for Mr Sloan upstairs he must be living in a parallel universe somewhere where thoughts bear no relation to fact.

      thebe.tau - 2012-05-24 16:01

      Surely if Zuma's member is shown in public so can the crying advocate, the whole thing is just messed up, Judge now becoming hypocrite, and Zuma just needs to go back to running the country, assuming he ever did

      E=MC2 - 2012-05-24 16:07

      LOL!!! well said Tax :-)

      Aikhona - 2012-05-24 16:17

      And i second that. These people are really scrapping the last few crumbs off the bottom of the barrel.

      Press - 2012-05-24 16:37

      From which labour broker did the Advocate come - he was clearly not properly capasitized . . .

      Schmee - 2012-05-25 07:00

      Is that why they are saying e.tv is biased. I was trying to figure out what card they were playing.

  • Ben - 2012-05-24 15:32

    Good news for Freedom of Expression and true democracy. Booya

      Press - 2012-05-24 16:39

      Not good news - why is the Court acting to protect the dignity of the Advocate that cried but not the dignity of the applicant - hi wena !

  • E=MC2 - 2012-05-24 15:32

    hahahahaha! JZ's penis - 1 JZ - 0

      Paul - 2012-05-24 15:53

      Knob-kiri - 1 Prez - 0

  • IcemanGP - 2012-05-24 15:33

    Like to see how they enforce it internationally.

      Koos - 2012-05-24 15:35

      Go YouTube! Someone please upload it.

      Kala - 2012-05-24 16:27

      Use it as your desk top background.

      Press - 2012-05-24 16:40

      Easy - ask our new Chinese friends to pull the internet plug - they have some experience . . . .

  • Psy4genic.Mgcwaba - 2012-05-24 15:33

    Was it postponed because the lawyer broke down and cried? How professional is that...?

      Matthew - 2012-05-24 15:39

      it was planned dude,common,you must see that.best lawyers anc's money can....tax payers money can buy.So this is one of the top dogs (as lawyers go) but he has an emotional break down? Bullsh*t.it was staged and it worked...for now =/

      Gordon - 2012-05-24 16:25

      Exactly. The art of diversion. What has happened over the past few days while everyone spent their time watching this "issue" develop....

  • gemmaleigh.evans.3 - 2012-05-24 15:34

    Their lawyer broke down? Meaning...what exactly? And why can't it be aired?

  • IcemanGP - 2012-05-24 15:35

    As in the famous words of Jack Nicholson, \YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH\

      Paul - 2012-05-24 15:48

      OR "You don't know what your doing"

  • Ryno - 2012-05-24 15:36

    i bet you a law will be changed in the not to distant future...

  • Peter - 2012-05-24 15:36

    What are we going to read about now...next show please!

      Koos - 2012-05-24 15:39

      ANC (Jacob) proposes amendments to dignity and privacy rights bill.

      Peter - 2012-05-24 15:42

      no surprise there...

  • Ngwana - 2012-05-24 15:37

    Check another episode of the SPEAR.

      Koos - 2012-05-24 15:48

      Let's hope they don't get "a head" of themselves and take the task "to hand".

      Alan - 2012-05-24 15:52

      SPEAR .. now lets see if we can make an anagram from that ... Ra... Ah no - I give up.

      Alan - 2012-05-24 16:01

      REAPS ... no that's not it .. ummm umm RAP.. AAAAHHHRRGGG I give up.

      Kala - 2012-05-24 16:28

      R APES

      Press - 2012-05-24 16:45

      Yes - a new season ahead of the popular sitcom "the spear" written by Charles Dick-enson.

  • lourence.manyama - 2012-05-24 15:40

    Hail to the Law and Justice of the Country

  • Bullard - 2012-05-24 15:40

    Next date>>> weneva dat my be...Imma sit at home with popcorn ready for another show:p...

  • dorothy.prinsloo - 2012-05-24 15:41

    So I'm ignorant (and not shy to say it, I know some 'more ignorant individual' will tell me so on this post' but that's okay)! So who is paying for this - the ANC's members? Jacob Zuma in his personal capacity? Or the tax payer as he is president? With all the time and effort that has gone into this crap, imagine how many hungry children could have been fed, how many homes may have been built, how many teachers better educated to teach the 'learners' in the Eastern Cape... and, and, and... what a waste of time, money and precious reporting space on a rather tedious, tiring and wasteful subject! Sigh!!!

      chirwajs - 2012-05-24 15:59

      If it wznt this poor JZ's followers who think dey are clever n smart,Zuma wasn't going to fight over this.SA if Zuma goes back to ruling after finishing his term,it will be like Swaziland coz really this president is costing the state#Hate South Africa nnnnxxx#

      chirwajs - 2012-05-24 15:59

      If it wznt this poor JZ's followers who think dey are clever n smart,Zuma wasn't going to fight over this.SA if Zuma goes back to ruling after finishing his term,it will be like Swaziland coz really this president is costing the state#Hate South Africa nnnnxxx#

      sven.gohre - 2012-05-24 17:07

      @Dorothy, maybe Jacob Zuma's "Member" is paying for it. I am sure it can afford it as it is well supported by your taxes.

      Patsy - 2012-05-25 11:13

      Well said, Dorothy Prinsloo. Totally ridiculous reaction to a satirical depiction of a farcical president! Starving, jobless, homeless sick people all around us and old money-bags has to worry about his 'image' - WHAT image?

  • elkita.robbertse - 2012-05-24 15:41

    Anothe few thousand.What about the hungry children.Moron ANC............

      Koos - 2012-05-24 15:49

      Hahahaha you think the ANC (specifically Zuma) care about those? He makes those, he don't care to much about those.

      Kala - 2012-05-24 16:34

      It's not an election year so the ANC don't care about the poor, unemployed, hungry, uneducated South Africans.

  • Celtis - 2012-05-24 15:43

    Yes, stop wasting tax money and get on with doing what you should. Uphold the law and let the rest hang out.

  • keith.recore - 2012-05-24 15:43

    knee jerk reactions and selective political outrage usually run their course in a relatively short amount of time. Eventually cooler heads prevail, the real issue is seen for what it is, life goes on. There will be other faux "disturbing" issues to come, in the interim. 4000 people live at Randonstein landfill, children without textbooks, millions unemployed, crime rates too high, basic services below par, court cases backlogged that are of real substance to everday South Africans, yet the "spear" is in court within days. Apparently it is about priorities or not???

  • Alan - 2012-05-24 15:43

    (Alan2)Don't you just love that Umkhonto we Sizwe means 'Spear of the Nation'? Always thought they were a bunch of pri*ks; so they were guarding the painting of themselves!!

      vlarismam - 2012-05-24 15:48

      LMAO

      Koos - 2012-05-24 15:50

      Umkhonto we Zuma?

      Koos - 2012-05-24 15:52

      .... or from his kids perspective.... Zuma we Sizwe?

      Alan - 2012-05-24 15:53

      Funny enough - the same thing crossed my mind yesterday...

      Peter - 2012-05-24 15:59

      i always thought they said "Die Konte will sweets he"

  • capetownphotographer - 2012-05-24 15:50

    Hardly an appropriate time to start dancing, now is it?

  • sharon.truebodyvice - 2012-05-24 15:51

    The anc wanted the show to be televised now they retracting that .............shame they dont want to be seen as weak ..............too flucken late mate

  • andrew.mackie.90 - 2012-05-24 15:51

    They were forced to postpone the case in order that the world can stop laughing at us. Gwede Mantashe this will not help you in getting finance from the BRIC countries as who loans money to a bunch of Jokers. How come Helen Zille has not gone to court over her naked granny picture?

  • nishan.sitlu - 2012-05-24 15:51

    The painting is destroyed. What are they still crying about and wasting the court's time?

      George - 2012-05-24 16:05

      All I can think is that the advocate came face to face ( Ok, I hope he didn't come actually) with the fact of how small the President's private parts were. Certainly not chief-like. The shock was clearly too much. The ANC cadre's are dismayed, and the tokoloshe continues to do his work.

  • George - 2012-05-24 15:55

    Tut now, there there. It will get better, don't cry. Daddy Zuma will make it alright.

  • Danny - 2012-05-24 15:55

    "It also ruled that video footage of the ANC's lawyer breaking down may not be televised." Awwwww. I was looking forward to seeing that. :(

      Stirrer - 2012-05-24 16:30

      Televised, Danny, televised. The judge didn't say anything about YouTube :-)

  • IcemanGP - 2012-05-24 15:55

    Zuma \ eish how can we win this case\ \r\nlawyer \ eish baas, not to worry i have strong case, the judges wont be able to refuse it.\ \r\nzuma\ seriaas what is it\ \r\nlawyer \ i'll cry\

  • Tebz001 - 2012-05-24 15:56

    ANC is just trying to spend as much 'tax' money as possible before they leave...seing that they might not make it on the next elections!!

      Sean - 2012-05-24 16:16

      Tabz you are very stupid my friend political parties can't use tax money. Only gov can use tax. Stop playing dump!

      Dylan.rid - 2012-05-24 16:20

      And who controls the government?......and remember when the ANC was paying for their election campagne with tax payers money? Hahahahahaha

  • jackal666.daniel - 2012-05-24 15:56

    Now that was a big nothing... LOL!!!

  • RemoteMedic - 2012-05-24 16:08

    In other word.... LOSER!!!!!!

  • tumelo.mabua - 2012-05-24 16:09

    Clearly the oainting evokes a lot of emotions, but I never thought it would get to crying!

  • Michael - 2012-05-24 16:10

    Strangly enough, this is not the first painting by a well knowon artist ever to feature Mr Zuma's bits

  • Vuyo - 2012-05-24 16:12

    I hope the international media will televise and publish it on the internet .

  • derk.woldendorp - 2012-05-24 16:12

    crocodile tears

  • mukosit - 2012-05-24 16:14

    These Badman Gallery thing is boring. They just need media attention and to promote their useless company through unpaid media adverts. I.d.i.o.t.s, How can they do that in the first place. Please, you people out there,don't hide behind your computers and promote r-u-b-i-s-h. Mr Zuma is South Africa's president and he deserve some respect until his term end.

      Andrew - 2012-05-24 16:39

      A real man would have visited the artist in person. Face to face and asked him kindly to remove it from the gallery. Mandela did that with zappiro and laughed about it. This would have saved face, money, time, alot of public up roar, wouldn't of made the painting famous, which could have saved his kids from seeing it. Then maybe he could have gone back to doing his job as president for a change. The artist was wrong about painting those genitals. Cause zuma has no balls.

      Roulon du Toit - 2012-05-24 23:23

      @Andrew well said! Yup, there is a lot to learn from Madiba

      gregoryjgrove - 2012-05-25 08:47

      Well, the gallery got a great PR company in the ANC who have arranged HUGE publicity for them. Nationally and internationally. Must be worth millions. And Zuma deserves respect for what exctly? His excitable winkie? His sticky fingers? His forked tongue? This is what he will be remembered for...

      Patsy - 2012-05-25 18:21

      You don't deserve respect unless you have earned it, mukosit. JZ has NOT earned it

  • Abby - 2012-05-24 16:15

    They did not want to show the world of the unbelievable racial conflict and emotinal turmiol the natives are still expriencing at this time of age.

      gregoryjgrove - 2012-05-25 08:49

      The natives??? Surely you mean the Bantu... or the non-whites...

  • Michael - 2012-05-24 16:15

    i want to see that clown that calls himself a lawyer...Seems so patheic,I have to watch it...what a wally,no sympathy from the jusge u fwool..hahahahahahahahahahha

  • lourence.manyama - 2012-05-24 16:15

    We are worried about the state of the economy and service delivery, and JZ is worried about his d(&(*&(*^ck

      Sean - 2012-05-24 16:20

      JZ is not your council. If u wise u should know its your council that will enforce service delivery my confused brother

  • Rudi - 2012-05-24 16:18

    Definately not postpone because of the 5 moth old baby that was murdered.

      Rudi - 2012-05-24 16:21

      Maybe we should ask the baby's parents if they feel that he died with dignity.

  • Loo - 2012-05-24 16:21

    Hear my words friends,, the Spear should have gotten a better lawyer . .the defendants lawyer is going to take them apart completely. After this public display ,, ALL of Zumas laundry is going to be washed on air. They should have not taken this to open court. GONNA LOSE

      Press - 2012-05-24 17:03

      On the Zuma laundry issue - how did they think it could be avoided in the first place - really really clever of his advisors to set him up - no deliver him - for this obvious line of interrogation by the defendants lawyer . . . . . a third force involved here ???

  • Brad.Kopping - 2012-05-24 16:29

    Thoughts of the ANC advocate a few hours into the trial: "Goddamnit, we're taking a big beating here...and mr zuma will kill me if i dont win this case! i have to do something quick so we can stall the case...lets see...scream like a banshee? No...pass out? No, too quick! Damn! Play the race card? erghh...saving that for Mangwanani...Come on...I'VE GOT!!" "WAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!" PMPL!!!

      Aikhona - 2012-05-24 17:22

      Thats priceless. Man, you need to speak to Goscinny and Uderzo. Just imagine Geriatrix: Teeeehheeeheeeeeheeeeee........!

  • Donald - 2012-05-24 16:31

    it was postponed because the bafoon sheep lawyer spoke himself into a corner, even declaring the some black people are less than others oops nevermind having to concede it was not a racist painting oops. everything fell apart for this sheeep. so the only thing he could do is cry like a baby.

      Mewik - 2012-05-24 17:43

      I caught that, he stated that the majority in SA, or black people, see it as racist because they are uneducated and didn't get an elite education therefore they cannot understand art? WTF? So he stated that it's actually not racist and insulted anyone who thinks it is by calling them uneducated. Unreal, where the hell did they find that guy? Did you notice the guy in the behind him to his right? He was rubbing his face off, he looked like he was also about to cry if he didn't wear his face off first.

  • m.dizz22 - 2012-05-24 16:32

    Really? like really?...i am a second year Law student at a respectable university in south africa. Do you what was my first impression of this painting?....SLAM THAT ARTIST WITH SECTION 10 OF THE CONSTITUTION OF THE REPUBLIC OF SOUTH AFRICA,1996.There is nothing racial about the painting, When a Chinese man looks at the painting he sees the PRESIDENT OF SOUTH AFRICA WITH HIS GENITALS HANGING...THAT PICTURE DEPICTS SOUTH AFRICA AS A WHOLE..NOT BLACKS ALONE. Then two men smear it with paint , That is a simple Malicious damage to property case and should be treated like one in court(stare Decisis). I think you stupid and racist if you think the picture is racist because it represents all South Africans...yes Thabo you too and Kobus you are not excused as you also south african

      Keith - 2012-05-24 17:14

      That's the whole trouble, when Zuma does his funny stuff with women other than his wives, and gets plastered all over the foreign papers,he represents South Africans as a whole.

      Clayton Richard Delport - 2012-05-24 17:30

      Thank you

  • Loo - 2012-05-24 16:35

    I can picture this ... Mr. Zuma Mr.Zuma . .:: What Mantashe !!!?? :: Mr. Zuma,, our lawyer is crying like a baby looking for milk :::: AGGGG F,,FS - Who appointed him ?? :::: Sorry Mr. Zuma, YOU did !

  • Malefane - 2012-05-24 16:36

    "Breaking Down" What is this mean?

      Mewik - 2012-05-24 17:06

      Crying like a little bi@tch

      Byron - 2012-05-24 18:02

      rolling on the floor crying in the Foetal position shaking uncontrollably with sadness bawling his eyes out shouting in tandem with tears and raising his fists to the sky asking 'why? why? why?' burying his face in his hands and crying like a newborn baby, wetting his arms and pants as news24 would have us imagine obviously we believe everything they tell us, because we're sheep, oh unless of course if it's something bad about our beloved political party, then we question every letter of every word in the article and question the journalists ability to comprehend english and/or his bias when writing the article *bleat* *bleat*

      gregoryjgrove - 2012-05-25 08:57

      It means the lawyer couldn't answer the judges questions so he started wailing in distress...

  • mpho.f.molefe - 2012-05-24 16:37

    I'm no law expert but the judges might have contradicted their line of questioning prior to the advocate's break down, with their indictment on the broadcasting of the breakdown footage. By the same token, the footage is already out there. Anyone who might have recorded these proceedings might have had the footage on YouTube within minutes or it might have been broadcast overseas before the indictment. Isn't this precisely what Malindi is trying to argue regarding the painting? It's not so much the actual banning of the image, that's impossible to control. It's the continued public publishing of it and the vindication that it was unlawful. Why did the judges have the breakdown footage stopped from all broadcasting anyway? Could it be that they felt it portrayed the advocate in an undignified way? Hmmmmm.

      Themba - 2012-05-24 16:46

      Exactly my point. Clearly the freedom of expression of the advocate is being violated here. Why not show the video???

      Mewik - 2012-05-24 17:00

      The judge ruled that it has no relevance in the case therefore it cannot be broadcast as only parts relevant to the case are permitted to be broadcast from the courtroom, it has nothing to do with his dignity, it is just irrelevant in the case. If he likes perhaps he can put a case together to allow it to be aired if he feels not showing offends his dignity? But judging from his performance today putting cases together was really not one of his strong points so I'd advise against it.

      Press - 2012-05-24 17:53

      @Mewik - Broudcasting the crying scene might though have relevance for the "Advoctes" other clients or prospective clients . . . .

      Mewik - 2012-05-24 18:29

      I don't think he will be getting work any time soon so no need. He's done for.

  • Prosper - 2012-05-24 17:02

    How does this work? The judge who is banning footage of a sobbing lawyer is the same judge who is failing to understand why the same layer wants a controversial portrait banned!!!??

      Christian J Denyschen - 2012-05-24 17:14

      Good point but not a valid one.

      Mewik - 2012-05-24 17:20

      The problem is that Zuma's lawyers needed to explain what they would like to see as the outcome of the case and how it can be achieved before the judge can rule either way. It is not just a simple case of saying ok it's banned, the obvious next question would be now what? They failed to present what they even actually want be it money, an apology, the imprisonment of the artist, or whatever. What the judges did was point out and question them on were the errors or lack of information in the submissions made by Zuma's legal team to the court. You cannot deny that his legal team were shambolic at best and to be honest utterly pathetic. They should be glad that the judges even entertained them as much as they did and didn't just throw them out of the courtroom, which most judges would have done. Seriously all issues aside it was a dismal performance on behalf of Zuma's legal team, you cannot deny that.

      gregoryjgrove - 2012-05-25 08:59

      Your views are controversial and you are hereby banned.

  • sadrick.lottering - 2012-05-24 17:21

    Like the ANC didn't know they wouldn't have a leg to stand on in court. Mangaung is what this is all about, it's unfortunate to see white people being dragged into the whole shenanigans. And News24 didn't make things an easier, today's 2012-05-24 15:26 article read: \The Spear features genitals ON AN IMAGE\r\n of President Jacob Zuma\ now please look at this article published 2012-05-20 22:56 \A painting of President Jacob Zuma \r\nwith HIS GENITALS exposed\. And to have E.tv cameras on scene, al of a sudden Le Grange became instantaneously famous. Mangaung is in the bag, and al contestation bulldozed. The power of pornography...

  • Juan.Alberts - 2012-05-24 17:21

    has anyone thought of commissioning an artwork of Robert Mugabe Not that he has anything to expose

  • Marry-Jane - 2012-05-24 17:23

    The painting has already been distroyed and the courts can't control images that are already floating around on the internet. There is the verdict JZ, why is there even a need for a postponement???

      Tony Lapson - 2012-05-24 17:34

      Not sure if female... Or pot-head.

      Bless Boswell - 2012-05-25 07:37

      I think he changing the judges so he'll get a different result

  • Lesedi Nombuso Radebe Maphanga - 2012-05-24 17:37

    @Seun the anc is the government dont try to be smart

      Tony Lapson - 2012-05-24 17:45

      Exactly. Enough distractions and excuses... Deliver on your promises already!