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Zuma family in court for Spear

2012-05-24 10:11

Johannesburg - A large crowd of ANC supporters were outside the South Gauteng High Court on Thursday to support a legal attempt to remove a controversial painting of President Jacob Zuma from the Goodman Gallery.

Most of the group wore ANC T-shirts and sang in front of the court building. Some displayed posters reading: "President Zuma has a right to human dignity and privacy."

Six of Zuma's children, including Duduzane and Duduzile were at the court.

The ANC has brought an application to have the painting The Spear, by Cape Town artist Brett Murray, removed from view in the Rosebank gallery.

The political party contends that the work, which shows the president's genitals, is a violation of his dignity and that, in this case, the artist's right to freedom of expression should be set aside.

On Tuesday the work was vandalised by two men who smeared paint across it. A third man was later caught trying to spray paint the word "respect" on the wall outside the gallery.

All three were arrested and the gallery temporarily closed.

Roads around the court were closed on Thursday morning in anticipation of protests. Police in riot gear and police nyalas were parked along Pritchard Street.

Comments
  • Werner - 2012-05-24 10:13

    The truth is a hard thing to discredit...

      esethu3 - 2012-05-24 10:16

      LOL Charles, thats ur famous line neh

      Rudi - 2012-05-24 10:20

      OK Charles - we heard you three articles ago. Now that all 300 of his wives and children are in court, there won't be place for anybody else. Shame, they are living in denial. All of them, just enjoying the gravy train while it lasts. Idiots...

      Werner - 2012-05-24 10:22

      Dubula, when Bill Clinton got caught with his pants down artists and cartoonists went crazy with the story. They (Artists) normally take inspiration of what is happening with the subjects that they portray especially in satirical art. Hence we have the Shower head on Shapiro's cartoons. He did not dream that shower up. Zuma has only himself to blame...

      Werner - 2012-05-24 10:45

      Yes Dubula, I see that culture every time I walk into KFC and Mcdonalds!

      melania.nel - 2012-05-24 10:49

      Eish johnslaon, poor Ayanda Mabula doesn't deserve to also be called a racist with a racist colonial mentality! His painting of zuma was much worse!

      rbphiri - 2012-05-24 11:05

      Look in all honesty none of us would want our genitals on display for the world to see. I feel that Zuma's right to dignity has been infringed upon, but if you behaviour like a complete d!ck it's bound to show - in this case through a portrait. This art work should serve as a turning point that people are fed up with the surge in corruption, financial molestation of tax payers and other politically affiliated atrocities. I firmly believe the portrait is far from racism - but merely a portrait of reality in this country, MR murray had the balls to paint us the picture of this reality. MR President this shouldn't come as a suprise, you have parade your d*cks in public before, by d*cks I'm referring to some of your politicians who "screw" the country without showing signs of remorse. You fail to zip up the problem, I might as well tell my girl friend I'm bisexual, because several men in parliament have been screwing me over for years. You lost your right to dignity long before this portrait. My Black, White, Indian, Coloured brothers and Sisters, let us vote with our minds instead of our hearts, change is drastically needed. Alternatively will be living in a world of further taxation - where we work just to support government money making schemes.

      John - 2012-05-24 11:05

      The ANC has brought an application to have the painting The Spear, by Cape Town artist Brett Murray, removed from view in the Rosebank gallery" but this has been done with no help from the court, stop wasting 5 judges time and get back to work and run the country, it what u get paid to do.

      Koos - 2012-05-24 11:39

      Big crowd of 100 people.

      Bob - 2012-05-24 11:40

      Tsotsi, read Werner's comment, he is 100% correct, Africa has many diverse cultures due to the mix of population, European, Asian and African being the three main ones, and before you start your racist crap, all three are now integrated into Africa ie they are all now Africans, white, brown and black, all are part of this continent whether you like it or not, very few countries have their unique culture, China and India come to mind.

      JanHNortje - 2012-05-24 11:42

      People see this for what it is. This is how Zuma roles. He will use anything to be center of attention the goal is to get votes. And the truth is that Malema has received more attention than he did. Last time when Zuma did this eg. "Shower head", corruption. HE was elected the president of the ANC.

      Steve - 2012-05-24 12:06

      @RPhiri. Well said brother. You are an inspiration to the nation. If you stood for president, you would get my vote.

      leoa.martins - 2012-05-24 13:01

      Where were all these police in riot gear and with nyalas when the DA marched recently and were accosted by the illegal marchers of COSATU?????

  • melania.nel - 2012-05-24 10:14

    But will they be as eager to attend the hearing for Ayanda Mabula's paintings? Equality to all right!

      Sam - 2012-05-24 10:16

      Correct

      Hermann - 2012-05-24 10:20

      Shot on

      nhamo.dzenyika - 2012-05-24 10:21

      you kicked out Malema and now only a 100 attend your court. Had he been around, there could have been pandemonium because thousands and thousands will have attended and put the matter to rest.

      VWhitepaw - 2012-05-24 10:21

      Or for Michelangelo's David statue. Or the nude garden statues you buy at the garden shops. On what grounds do you censor? For what would this case be used to enable sensorship for other stuff. Granted, I would not want a painting of myself nude. Just say must be carefull how it is done.

      Azande - 2012-05-24 11:03

      I miss malema, the cat is gone and mice are dancing.

      Steve - 2012-05-24 12:10

      @Azande. Tending to the sheep and cows like a good stock-boy should. Troll.

  • Charles-Bronson - 2012-05-24 10:16

    Please try and remove my Facebook avatar your dump morons!

      Bryan - 2012-05-24 10:22

      And DubulaAmanzi is a Moron...

      Charles-Bronson - 2012-05-24 10:24

      The definition of racism is controversial both because there is little scholarly agreement about what the word "race" means, and because there is also little agreement about what does and doesn't constitute discrimination. Some definitions would have it that any assumption that a person's behavior would be influenced by their racial categorization is racist, regardless of how seemingly benign such assumptions might be. Other definitions would only include conscious malignant forms of discrimination.[5] Among the questions about how to define racism are the question of whether to include forms of discrimination that are unintentional, such as making assumptions about preferences or abilities of others based on racial stereotypes, whether to include institutionalized forms of discrimination such as the circulation of racial stereotypes through the media and whether to include the socio-political dynamics of social stratification that sometimes have a racial component. "Racism" and "racial discrimination" are often used to describe discrimination on an ethnic or cultural basis, independent of whether these differences are described as racial. According to the United Nations conventions, there is no distinction between the terms racial discrimination and ethnicity discrimination. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism

      david.baker.sa - 2012-05-24 11:21

      Charles may well be a racist. He also may not be. I don't know, I dont know him. Neither do you. In isolation - Supporting freedom of artistic expression in this case does not a racist make. From my perspective. I dislike the picture. I wouldn't pay to go and see it so I won't. But I will defend the artist's right to paint it, the gallery's right to display it and the public's right to view it. I will also defend your right to criticize or protest it, Zuma's right to sue for defamation. What I won't do is support anyone's right to censor it or conduct violent protest.

      Werner - 2012-05-24 11:25

      Everyone in SA are racist, that is what makes South Africa so unique and so colorful.

      John - 2012-05-24 11:55

      Charles you beat me to it I was just this minute going to make this historic WORK OF ART my avatar. Kudos to you mate! To coin Vanesh Naidoo, alias,Tsotsi, alias BlueZulu, alias super troll' phrase. Power to the DA people!

  • Schmee - 2012-05-24 10:17

    100 supporters? Shame sorry I still can't help you out, got to rush off to do my nails now.

      Schmee - 2012-05-24 10:29

      Bwah ha ha ha dream on sweetie. I'm looking out the office window onto the streets right now. I guess you can't count to 100 so we will have to excuse you.

      michael.a.devilliers - 2012-05-24 10:32

      @Schmee - I would suggest not looking out your window, one of the 100 will probably toss a brick through it and you'll get hurt.

      Paul - 2012-05-24 10:36

      100 free T shirts and nothing better to do!!

      Schmee - 2012-05-24 10:38

      You have a point there Michael. *ducks for cover*

      Charles-Bronson - 2012-05-24 10:56

      The only supports are the ones not educated. Rent-a-crowed!

      rbphiri - 2012-05-24 11:11

      The other supporters are taking a shower.

      Werner - 2012-05-24 11:28

      100 X R 32.50 (Streetwise Two) R 3250 Not bad for a riot !

      Steve - 2012-05-24 12:20

      @RPhiri. Excellent chirp!

  • Hermann - 2012-05-24 10:19

    The Office of the President is dignified, however, the question is how dignified is the holder of that office - review the past.

      Bruce - 2012-05-24 11:15

      Well said!

      netswera.livhuwani - 2012-05-24 11:34

      You got that right,is not the office but the person in it

  • Jacques AkaShreko Stander - 2012-05-24 10:22

    Hope my tax money isn't paying for this nonsense !!!!

      Tsotsi-Baby - 2012-05-24 10:41

      You are paying to protect our democracy from this Murray ruffian, its not all bad....Your papers are in good hands comrade #Power to the people

      toohotdurban.durban - 2012-05-24 10:49

      sorry boet, eventually it does, as it was in the interest of national security, zuma's member that is...

  • qandam - 2012-05-24 10:23

    I feel for the children of Zuma family, am sure they never saw their fathers privet parts and now they have to see some one painting it. Umntwana omncane uma enokubona that would tell Zuma that wayibona into yakhe ephepheni, yerrr if it was my painting I would have went there and destroy it by myself. I would like my kids to see such a thing.

      qandam - 2012-05-24 10:24

      I would not like my kids to see such a thing

      michael.a.devilliers - 2012-05-24 10:29

      Zuma didn't pose for the painting so technically they're not his private parts. And it's spelt private... with an 'a'. Really, your kids seeing your private parts is the end of the world - so being accused of rape, being revealed as a womanizer was not much worse?

      Tax - 2012-05-24 10:30

      How about all of the children that have seen their parents murdered or assaulted,thanks to Zuma's refusal to tackle the serious crime problem in this country?

      Tony Lapson - 2012-05-24 10:40

      @Tax everyone knows that that isn't as important as the presidents selfish emotions.

      Tsotsi-Baby - 2012-05-24 10:44

      Thumbs up, Murray is a threat to our democracy and people are still defending him #Power to the people

      Tax - 2012-05-24 11:01

      http://www.beeld.com/Suid-Afrika/Nuus/Dogters-hoor-hoe-pa-sterf-20120523

      Bruce - 2012-05-24 11:17

      Are his private parts different to anyone else's?

      Werner - 2012-05-24 11:29

      I feel for the wart on my sack !

      Seipati - 2012-05-24 11:30

      @michael lol. And if you really look @ the painting and the naming of it, is so relevant. The man is 70 still making babies @ that age, still getting married to younger woman which are the same age as his children. What is giving them and how is he doing all this without the spear. Lol I meant even me if I had to draw a picture of him that will be the first thing to come to my mind. THE MACHINE GUN

      Steve - 2012-05-24 12:24

      @Bruce. Yup, smaller.

  • julie.mellon.5 - 2012-05-24 10:23

    The barn door is open, the picture is viral. Imagine how the rest of the world will react when they try and get them to remove it from their press. For centuries now, leaders have been drawn ironically, about time SA caught up.

  • Lyndatjie - 2012-05-24 10:24

    A bridge too far or the straw that broke the camel's back?

  • Gerald - 2012-05-24 10:26

    Zuma's head looks like a penis, so not sure why he is worried about the painting!

      Anele - 2012-05-24 11:13

      Of your dom dad

      netswera.livhuwani - 2012-05-24 11:36

      now that’s an insult, we talking of the painting with penis remember not his head.

  • Riad - 2012-05-24 10:28

    Question: Is this a matter of the State or would this be deemed as a personal matter, menaning who bear the cost for this court case?

      michael.a.devilliers - 2012-05-24 10:34

      Not even a question, it's a personal matter. It's a pity it doesn't matter either way because Zuma is part of the cANCer gravy train and taxpayers pay either way.

      Riad - 2012-05-24 11:44

      @ michael.a.devilliers: So if this is the case, why is it so easy for government to spend the tax payers money in this manner which I would assume would lead into the millions instead of spending this for the betterment of the people of this country………so I guess this is of no consequence for what our money is used for like paying the advocates/lawyers, transport cost to bus in supporters for this trial to protest outside the courts and not to forget the cost of the PA system and big screen TV’s that's put up for the supporters in the street…….my my, are we that duped not to realise what’s happing right under our noses?

      Steve - 2012-05-24 12:29

      @Riad. Maybe all these people that are taking part in the numerous service-delivery protests should try sending Zooomer some very rude and personal pictures and messages. Maybe then he will take some notice of their plight.

  • jordaanjean - 2012-05-24 10:29

    why not have all his wives and children and grand children in there. Might have to move the case to FNB stadium. Mr Zuma got what he deserved, but in stead of seeing it as a wake up call he has a hissy fit. Typical ANC mentality.

      Luke - 2012-05-24 10:44

      Your insane pig , humanity. Dnt b lyk tht

  • Andrew Sheppard - 2012-05-24 10:31

    Hahaha!!

  • Jack - 2012-05-24 10:35

    News flash! A big tent will be erected for Zuma's children- The court and street is to small. ha ha ha

      Junebugg - 2012-05-24 10:59

      If only the same energy is put towards corruption, we would be a better country

  • tebogo.mereyotlhe - 2012-05-24 10:38

    nice the family is there at taxpayers expense....hope we get regime change soon....

      jtshivhase - 2012-05-24 11:03

      Hope they do not march to your doors step for not siding with them.The auhtorities marching againts an individual,that is the first.

      Iam - 2012-05-24 11:03

      We can only hope!

      Azande - 2012-05-24 11:06

      taxpayers money?

  • Schmee - 2012-05-24 10:41

    Anyway this reminds me of another story that's been repeated for many years. It goes something like this: But the judge said Patricia or may I say Delicia The facts of this case lie before me (knock, knock, knock) Case dismissed... This girl was in her working clothes... And with a swing of her hips She started to strip To tremendous applause She took off her drawers ......

  • Glenda - 2012-05-24 10:43

    Why don't you bring urgent application to court with regard to the taxi drivers that are killing our people!! re the child of 8 years old yesterday. Are our children not more precious than YOUR PRIDE ZUMA!!!!!!

      Glenda - 2012-05-24 11:18

      So the gremlin that gave me a thumbs down, DOES NOT THINK OUR CHILDREN ARE PRECOUIS????

  • TshilidziPhuravhathu - 2012-05-24 10:55

    what happended to the other 19 Zuma kids? Are they not afected by this? So much family sticking together through tough time hey Mr Pres...

      Iam - 2012-05-24 11:04

      They haven't seen their father yet, so they don't know if it's his "member".

  • Gavin - 2012-05-24 10:57

    I think the painting is a pile of crap, I think the artist had a brain fart when he painted it and the gallery really did SA no favours by putting it on display. However, it grates me that this painting is labelled hate speech, but singing shoot the boer is cool. the road ahead is long with many a winding turn on it..

  • Ngwana - 2012-05-24 10:58

    The movie continues...

  • Azande - 2012-05-24 11:02

    I hope the court will rule against Goodman Gallery. Then we will see the turn of events. Goodman is going to regret playing politics in SA. Politics are for politicians not business capitalists.

      Christopher - 2012-05-24 11:16

      Hahaha..no way..Have you seen the presidents lawyer, he does not know the law...the judges cannot believe and sometimes are laughing at his stupid logic!! The painting is going to be hanging for a long time!!

      Azande - 2012-05-24 11:25

      @chris, that will be bad man. i dont like that painting neither do i really like the person in it.

      Steve - 2012-05-24 12:45

      Which way are you going Azande? You don't like the painting or Zoomer? So why bother commenting? Must be really tough to be faced with such a decision.

      whatevafreakshow - 2012-05-25 11:05

      Soorie for you but they are now INTERNATIONAL thanks to the ANC being arrogant they assume the painting is of ZUMA

  • lostwithinsanity - 2012-05-24 11:04

    Doesn't that "large crowd have work to go to" instead of wasting time on the street, protesting etc...??

      Irene - 2012-05-24 11:35

      It's precisely for this reason that the cANCer keeps them uneducated and unemployed. Amazing what a t-shirt and KFC can do.

  • tricia.sutherland1 - 2012-05-24 11:04

    Yes Zuma has rights BUT what about his people's basic rights - where are they? There are people starving and in great need - JZ how can you and your family waste time over this - let your lawyers deal with it yes, but everytime you have a group of supporters with posters - ask the to support you by going into the shack communities and helping in whichever way they can - SA is desperately in need and you wasting precious time. Who give a fU@k about a stupid painting.

  • johan.pieters - 2012-05-24 11:09

    What a wonderful contribution to the country these protesters must be making to the south african economy, obviously with no jobs have more then enough time on their hands to protest about something so mediocre....

      Steve - 2012-05-24 12:49

      Maybe this is part of Zoomer's job-creation idea.

      Michael - 2012-05-24 12:57

      It is now out time to eat,bet bout half of them will include this silly remark

  • ruben.maistry - 2012-05-24 11:09

    Only a hundred supporters? What is the anc membership numbers? What is the RSA voter roll numbers? Says a LOT, does it not? Sad to say the writing is on the wall for the spear man's political career.

  • netswera.livhuwani - 2012-05-24 11:10

    Dubula don’t involve culture in politics, the two are like oil and water. im black African not American and i am telling you culture sucks it divides people, it is also dangerous, it courses divisions. and stop hiding behind culture wrong is wrong, impregnating a women out of wedlock is immoral is not African culture and in our rock paintings people are drawn with penises ,that’s culture unless ure culture started with Shaka Zulu.

      themba.ntuli - 2012-05-24 11:43

      you are right netswera this savage is destroying our image as modern black south african men across the eyes of the civilised world because now everyone is talking about how many wives and children the thing has,rape trials,hiv showers and so on. every major website across the world now has this story on its art section, embarassing. after doing some checking the only blacks defending the moron are those from rural areas in SA not supprised because that is anc powerbase because they deprive those folks of education and other modern ways to see the true picture of the bad deeds they are doing.

      whatevafreakshow - 2012-05-25 11:07

      The statue of David has an exposed genital region and it is not considered vulgar. Every man has a penis and it was designed to produce babies what is so vulgar about that?

  • Bruce - 2012-05-24 11:11

    The more children appear, the more it proves the point! Don't they see that?

      Steve - 2012-05-24 12:56

      Think the court security will ask for their i.d. books? I suppose that all the ringside seats were kept for the Zoomer clan.

  • The-third - 2012-05-24 11:13

    who... gives... a..... ****? eh? IT'S A ******** Painting. Let's get over ourselves and concentrate on the real (and many) issues this country faces. FFS.

  • netswera.livhuwani - 2012-05-24 11:18

    Most of those people at the high court today are mainly Zulus that still after 20 years of democracy don’t understand what democracy is all about,they are there to support Zuma just because he is Zulu they don’t care what he does, I am just tired of people denying the fact,say it the President is not a clean honest men and I wouldn’t say he is not a womanizer.so what privacy are you talking about when someone is busy showing his private parts to who ever women that cares.The painting just shows what he likes most.He is proud of showing it off.

      Bongiwe Mtshali - 2012-05-24 11:24

      u mst remember dt democracy no democracy Mr Zuma is still our president. n yes he is human bt no father deserve to be posted like dt doesnt matter how wrong he may be.

      Konanani - 2012-05-24 11:30

      Zuma is taking this country down

      Irene - 2012-05-24 11:37

      Konanani ~ Not just Zoomer, the entire cANCer.

      whatevafreakshow - 2012-05-25 11:10

      So is it ok to paint pictures of the Arch with his genitals showing google Ayanda Mabulu he has drawn pictures very similar.

  • Sylvia - 2012-05-24 11:23

    Well the "large crowd" looks a bit thin on the ground to me. There wouldn't be enough seats in court for all of Zuma's family. What a circus this whole thing has become.

  • braamc - 2012-05-24 11:24

    What a dick

  • Sthembiso - 2012-05-24 11:24

    Our president is really turning this country to banana republic

      netswera.livhuwani - 2012-05-24 11:45

      Whose president,he is yours,not our.

  • Omrisho - 2012-05-24 11:25

    inadvertently created a monster here... if you expose your weakness' to your opposition, you can be sure he will exploit them for all it's worth... guys, you should of laughed it off... political satire happens the world over, numerous spin off artworks coming to light, nando's climbing on the bandwagon, the plight of the rhino, mr bean... should have left it well alone but political maturity and leadership are lacking

      whatevafreakshow - 2012-05-25 11:12

      Agree if they kept quiet no one would be talking SADLY it is too late Tongues ARE wagging like dogs tails

  • bullardx - 2012-05-24 11:26

    lol..ANC and its supporters are so stupid, they dont know that they just made Brett Murray the famous artist of S.A and increasing the paintings value:p

      netswera.livhuwani - 2012-05-24 11:47

      I would have loved it if i can have it hang on my living room.Now is too expensive thanx to the cANCer

      rethabile.rathabaneng - 2012-05-24 11:50

      not all the Anc supporters are stupid,dont go around saying Anc supporters are stupid u'll be in trouble actually i think u are 'STUPID'

      Irene - 2012-05-24 12:00

      @rethabile ~ Beg to differ. ALL cANCer supporters are stupid. There is no other logical explanation for putting a bunch of thieving, arrogant, incompetent clowns into power - repeatedly. If you support this, then you are not just stupid, but BEYOND stupid.

      Morwa - 2012-05-24 12:11

      who r u 2 judge,

      Andrew Constanti - 2012-05-24 13:17

      whatevafreakshow - 2012-05-25 11:13

      How can u vote for a party that is run in this manner? Stupidity!!

  • papi.seheri - 2012-05-24 11:27

    Racist murray,y ddnt he start with milder,de kok,botha,vervoerd,pig terreblanche nd paste it on the wall of the voortrekker monument.*racist pig*

      rethabile.rathabaneng - 2012-05-24 11:40

      because they never behaved like Jz,they never slept with an HIV woman and took a shower after that,Jz must get over it its just a painting as much as u get over it.

      Stlouis Heidtmann - 2012-05-24 11:48

      because all those leader had one mistake apartheid not thousands like zuma a brainless racist who uses his power just for himself wake up fool

      Irene - 2012-05-24 12:01

      @papi ~ Shame for your lack of intelligence. Are any of those you mentioned running the country? Eish!

      Christopher - 2012-05-24 12:06

      you guys are loing the court case.....you have the dumbest lawyer and logic behind your defence!!

  • Msika - 2012-05-24 11:27

    And this is news? Really?

  • digitaldique - 2012-05-24 11:29

    They can't be "his" genitals if he didn't pose!

      Anele Mngese - 2012-05-24 11:45

      digitaldique: that is the most ignorant and dumb comment i have ever seen.

      Felix - 2012-05-24 11:51

      Anele, are you new here? Allow me to introduce you to Polyidonkey and Sganga...

  • wesley.bischoff - 2012-05-24 11:29

    Clearly they have nothing better to do with their time and energy. IT IS JUST A PAINTING!! GET OVER IT ALREADY!

  • Sonja - 2012-05-24 11:32

    LOL JZ....you are pathetic!!!

  • YrHonour - 2012-05-24 11:38

    All I see on these sites are comments from White Racists - totally intolerant self serving scmucks - and i'm white! You cant help to unite anyone with your comments and so long as you're taking me on and not spewing your racial hatred then i have done my part according to me! Be warned before you reply, my tongue and writing will go for your jugular!

      Christian J Denyschen - 2012-05-24 12:00

      How blind are you if u only see white racist?

  • JanHNortje - 2012-05-24 11:41

    People see this for what it is. This is how Zuma roles. He will use anything to be center of attention the goal is to get votes. And the truth is that Malema has received more attention than he did. Last time when Zuma did this eg. "Shower head", corruption. HE was elected the president of the ANC.

  • Magwaza - 2012-05-24 11:42

    I als feel shame for president being painted in puplic special family member and his to his privacy on media is very distabing some of his kids will ask question about the picture and how Mr Zuma is he going to answer his kids , We must remeber one thing he is our president whether we like it or not we must respect his presidency now.

  • Amelda - 2012-05-24 11:42

    So, there is absolutely nothing else in this Country that needs urgent attention but for the Circus and it's Ring Leader and a stupid painting!!!

  • Rob - 2012-05-24 11:43

    I don't get it! Several different cultures live side by side in SA (and most countries) There are bound to be fifference in value systems and traditions There will be issues that are seen differently, sometimes with any one of the range of human reactions possible from outright laughter to horror. Based on those assumptions I fail to see how any one of those culltures believes that it has a right to dictate to the others what is or is not acceptable. Let the legal processes deal with this, bringing in all the emotional stuff, including irresponsible political rhetoric devalues our society and its legal/justice system (further). Stop trying to argue the absolute of iwhether or not the painting is 'right' in whatever sense....it will be for some and will not be for others. MOVE ON, but please preserve some tolerance for those with a different view.

  • Shirley Van Heerden - 2012-05-24 11:43

    On a point of order: Yesterday a baby and a granny was murdered in Delmas. And since then many other crimes have been committed - yet a sh@tload of money is spent on a freaking picture!!!! Get over it - it is really getting old. Why not spend the money on crime prevention or send a mourning mum a boquet of flowers - she waited 8 years for her baby - and he was murdered at 5 months old!!!! This countries priorities are truely screwed up!!!!!! I'm ashamed to call myself south african if a court case about a freaking painting is taking presedance over a country swimming in blood.

      Werner - 2012-05-24 11:51

      Shirley, crime is their job, their existence and in their blood. Expecting 'them' to care about other people is quit out of their realm. Without the race card, they are worthless oxygen thieves, and the whole world knows it. I am also ashamed to be called a South African, for one reason, it is governed by the weak and thoughtless. All they co is riot, complain, rape, steal and blame an even weaker regime. I consider myself of no domicile, like a kite in a storm. word !

  • Phupoo - 2012-05-24 11:47

    this whole sh#t z crazy! Any way we cn't deny the fact whch z portrayed by the painter.

  • netswera.livhuwani - 2012-05-24 11:49

    Murray,replace the penis with a matchine gun,that will make him happy becouse he would then have got his lost matchine gun back moron

      ntokozo.z.nxumalo - 2012-05-24 12:32

      You are happy by insulting our president, you are bitter because he is black. Guys you are dividing our country growup men

  • Andrew - 2012-05-24 11:53

    Why don't we spend money on building schools, saving lives and fighting crime instead of closing roads (impeding the economy) and having court cases (wasting money) on something as trivial as this.

      Werner - 2012-05-24 11:57

      building; saving; fighting - Andrew I am sure those terms are not in their manual. They are still STRUGGLING but achieving F@$Kol

  • netswera.livhuwani - 2012-05-24 11:56

    Give this Zulu cattle herder a spear and a shield then send him back to Nongoma maybe Zwelithini will give him chiefdom rank over the Msholozis. President is way out of his league he is making Zulus look even more stupid.

  • jacqui.burtonpye - 2012-05-24 11:59

    As far as I can see, The Spear names no person. The fact that people see it is Z, is a matter of assumption.....or is it just a matter of the shoe fitting?

      whatevafreakshow - 2012-05-24 12:28

      The shoe fits. I actually find it arrogant of the Prez to assume it is of himself.