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Zuma family slams painting

2012-05-20 07:43

Johannesburg - The daughters and brother of President Jacob Zuma criticised the artist of a painting of Zuma with his genitals exposed, the Sunday Times reported.

Zuma's brother, Michael, said the painting was disgusting and had brought nothing but disgrace to the family.

"It's the most disgusting thing that has ever been published or said about the president," he said.

"As a family, we are still in shock, because in our culture the parading of private parts is something that is a shame and is considered as showing disrespect to that person and others."

The 1.85m-high painting entitled "The Spear" is part of Cape Town artists Brett Murray's "Hail to the Thief II" exhibition at the Goodman Gallery in Johannesburg.

Stress

Michael Zuma told the Sunday Times that as a family they are planning a meeting to discuss the matter as the picture had put everyone under a lot of stress.

"I have been asking myself what kind of human being would do such a cruel and disrespectful thing about a president of the country and a father with little children," Michael added.

Zuma's daughters said the painting was not an issue of freedom of speech or expression but a depiction of Zuma in a "disrespectful, savage-like manner [and] something that can only be justified through a Eurocentric and negrophobia lens."

On Friday, the ANC launched an urgent court application in an attempt to stop the Goodman Gallery in Johannesburg and the City Press newspaper from displaying the painting.

The hearing would be held at the High Court in Johannesburg on Tuesday, spokesperson Jackson Mthembu said.

The ANC earlier sent the gallery a lawyers' letter demanding its removal, but gallery spokesperson Lara Koseff said its lawyers had responded that it would stay until the show was over.

The painting was widely condemned on Friday by, among others, Arts and Culture Minister Paul Mashatile, the presidency, the Congress of SA Trade Unions, the African Christian Democratic Party and the National Education, Health and Allied Workers' Union.

The Sunday Times reported that the painting had already been sold for R136 000 to a German buyer.

Comments
  • ReapWhatUsow - 2012-05-20 07:49

    Ai fooi tog....and he continues to b a disgrace 2 the nation...no culture jst Agriculture!!!

      Squeegee - 2012-05-20 08:09

      I'm in two minds. I don't like the president or the depiction of any head of State in this way. The problem is that Mr Zuma has only himself to blame. Your personal history has a way of catching up with you. I'm left embarrassed that SA has come to this. We basically have leaders that cannot be respected.

      grootrot.vanzyl - 2012-05-20 08:13

      Just wonder when they are going to say something about Khulubuse? Why did they not sommer use the same platform? These absolute stalwarts of good values in SA, the ZUMAS must lead!

      Yar - 2012-05-20 08:24

      I have some sympathy for JZ. If I was publicly depicted in a painting as a Marxist- Leninist I would also be angry.

      Alf - 2012-05-20 08:29

      Not even agriculture if Zuma and his cronies are allowed to run the country as they have since he became president. Is it not considered a disgrace to have a presindet that goes around humnping and pumping under the guise of "it is our culture"? Stop thinking below the belt and do your job you are paid to do, instead of poking anything in reach and bankrupting the country with your "culture, JZ!

      Iceberg - 2012-05-20 08:31

      I've never heard of this brother, Michael. Where was he and the daughters when Zuma had sex with an HIV possitive woman? Didn't read anything about their concern then and how it would affect his small children or even the then wives. More importantly where are they when he makes sure his family members are awarded tenders and contracts - probably waiting in line. Did they have a family gathering when he was implicated for corruption in the arms deal?

      spartanx93 - 2012-05-20 08:40

      Maifoodie zoooooma had brought disgrace on his family even before this painting!

      Christopher - 2012-05-20 08:47

      I am feeling all giddy now. Love Sundays.

      goyougoodthing - 2012-05-20 08:51

      it's got to the point where I really really feel nothing for Zuma, his cronies and his family. He, along with his entire ANCis corrupt and a law unto themselves. The things that this man has done personally and condoned on his watch make him a disgrace. Public commentary, such as this painting, would not be necessary if he was in jail where he belongs.

      Fred - 2012-05-20 09:10

      Who gives a solitary sh*t about what the Zuma family thinks ????? They are the biggest (pardon the pun) bunch of leeches in this country. At first I had my doubts about the painting, but now, more and more I agree, it should stay !!!!

      Kevin - 2012-05-20 09:11

      5 wives an estimated 22 children, some born out of wedlock even if marriage includes his traditional law concubines, and his family says this artistic statement is disrespectful and hurtful. Its his behaviour fools, and it is a humerous depiction of his activities.

      Burtfred - 2012-05-20 09:13

      Market researchers have just completed a survey in KZN. They asked 1000 zulu women if they would like to have sex with president Zuma. 999 of them said "never again"

      atholl.hay - 2012-05-20 09:19

      Zuma is basically the CEO of a company that cannot account for R20 billion in the last financial year. Epic fail.

      colin.dovey - 2012-05-20 09:26

      It may well be a good idea for people to be made aware of what the ANC has been doing to our beloved country: Yesterday, the 18th of May, marked the first anniversary of last year’s local government election – the Democratic Alliance’s most successful election ever. We now govern in 27 local councils, in four provinces, and enjoy 24 % of the national vote. In this special edition of SA Today, to mark the anniversary, it is appropriate for us to report back on some of the DA’s achievements in government in the “new DA municipalities” (those we won from the ANC a year ago). The DA won 13 new councils last year, either alone or in coalition – Bitou, Breede Valley, Drakenstein, George, Hantam, Hessequa, Karoo Hoogland, Knysna, Laingsburg, Langeberg, Nama Khoi, Saldanha Bay, Witzenberg. In most of our new councils it took some months for the full extent of the damage to become apparent. The outgoing administrations were, as a rule, anything but co-operative. Issues included missing documents , break-ins, harassment and theft, as well as damaged, broken or stolen equipment . In many cases, these actions were not simply vindictive, but seemingly designed to destroy records, including evidence of corruption. In the words of new Mayors, many of these had become “shell municipalities” under the ANC. They “looked normal from the outside but had no substance” Moreover, many of the new councils “had been experts in ‘creative accounting’ to hide financial decline”.

      Gerhard - 2012-05-20 10:07

      The soap opera continues. Even the cabinet ministers are now laughing behind JZ's back.

      Iceberg - 2012-05-20 10:09

      And for a real treat, read Mondli Makhanya's take on our STUD of a president at http://www.timeslive.co.za/sundaytimes/2012/05/19/our-president-is-a-stallion---and-thereby-hangs-a-tale :D

      Tamaranui - 2012-05-20 11:29

      Chad, Remove your shades and you will remember seeing all cultures doing this.....Think back .............So have you........

      Tamaranui - 2012-05-20 11:41

      @ Reap, The only disgrace here is Murray. Indulging his blatant view of the President through questionable Art. Utilizing a lack of Moral Fibre culminating in a demeaning Image of the President of RSA. What this Turd does not understand is that is not acceptable here in a majority black cultured Democracy in it's infancy. We hold ourselves to a higher standard , This image may fly in the west however here it is not appreciated. All those advocating this as Art are tainted as well, either Anger towards anything ANC or are far to Liberal for RSA. Personally I tend to believe this was just another unwarranted attack on the Presidency. Cheap and Pathetic............Some in this Country need to be sitting in the International departure lounge .................... I you are not part of the solution then you are the problem....Simple as That.If we can stop the in-fighting we can accelerate the transformation for all to live a first world standard life. The countries that rebuilt after WW2 would not have been accomplished unless the citizens took a proactive part in the progress forward. They never stood around waiting for the Government to do it all.

      Jacqui - 2012-05-20 13:02

      BurtFred. Berlusconi from Italy used that joke about himself and Italian women. You're not original.

      Burtfred - 2012-05-20 13:25

      @ Jacqui - I never claimed to be original, and neither was Berlosconi. He borrowed it from the original joke about Clinton and 1000 women in Washington. Please don't be so touchy - I bet you're a schoolteacher.

      Squeegee - 2012-05-20 15:12

      No Burtfred, she was the 1000th Zulu woman...

      Mark - 2012-05-21 08:07

      This is what people think of you Zuma, time to wake up... for every action there is a reaction... you reap what you sow... act like a pervert, get treated like one....

  • gregory.jurgens - 2012-05-20 07:51

    That's the price u pay for corruption , rape and nepotism.

      PointBlank - 2012-05-20 07:57

      The painting is not of JZ it's ABOUT JZ.. When are these guys going to condemn every other painting that hasa depiction of JZ with his genitals exposed, or is this only because a white guy did it this time? Negrophobic, oh my god....!!

      Yar - 2012-05-20 08:28

      @Pointblank Quite right. Those genitals are not JZ's. Merely a representation thereof. Surely many many ladies can attest to this.

      Jacqui - 2012-05-20 13:04

      Tamaranui, stop being an ass.

  • JoCL89 - 2012-05-20 07:52

    If the ANC don't like this painting, they will hate the art in Stellenbosch! Maybe they should ask Shofar to make a petition against it?

  • Marius Koen - 2012-05-20 07:54

    Zuma se tottie gee almal n kopseer.

  • smapedi - 2012-05-20 07:58

    Respect is earned not bought.., pres. zuma should have thought about that when he went around dangling his assets to every women!!!

  • smapedi - 2012-05-20 07:58

    Respect is earned not bought.., pres. zuma should have thought about that when he went around dangling his assets to every women!!!

  • zybt99 - 2012-05-20 07:59

    As much as rights are enshrined we also have to learn that we are not in Europe. Using Eurocentricity in our values will lead to a lot of problems.mr Murry must remember TIA.

      Sidney Gilroy - 2012-05-20 08:04

      That painting will be known across the world. I think you are narrow-minded in your assumption that art should be made for the country you're in. Laughable actually.

      mikenortje - 2012-05-20 08:46

      @ Mr. zybt99 the constitution was drawn up with input from the ANC (remember Cyril)and the constitution is absolute, there is Freedom of artistic freedom - not artisitc expression that you like but for everyone. This has nothing to do with "Ëurocentricitys", time for SA to grow up we are 18 years into democracy, yet we act like a 2 year old.

      Iceberg - 2012-05-20 10:24

      ..."Here they were, defending a man who probably did not mind having his vital articles displayed before the world. This is a man who has made a virtue of flaunting his sexual prowess. He has declared before the world that his culture entitles him to have as many women warm his bed as he likes. Well, at least that is his version of his culture." Mondli Makanhya

      Iceberg - 2012-05-20 10:26

      "Every February, on the most important day of the political calendar, he arrives at parliament with his fulsome bevy. In Kenny Kunene-style, he walks the red carpet flanked by them. Grinning and waving to the public, his statement is: "Look what I got, my peeps!" On foreign trips, he swaps them so that the whole world can see what a stud he is.This is a head of state who was not shy to declare before a global audience: "I love all my wives equally." This head of state of a modern country made a very romantic speech at his latest wedding, telling his newest wife that she would not be his last. "Do not close the door behind you," he publicly told her on the night of the nuptials. How sweet. This is a man who, in his life, has married six women and sired more than 20 children. He will probably take more wives and produce more offspring before the end of his spell in office. As South Africans, let us accept that we have a very sexual president. The man at the helm of the republic unzips a lot and is proud of it. The ANC chose him as their president and imposed him on the country as a presidential candidate, fully aware that they were giving us a rampant stallion. His sexual endeavours are therefore fair game for artists, cartoonists, comedians, radio DJs and tavern jokers. When he has moved on, it will be his sexual legacy that we will remember. Even more than his flirtation with the corrupt." Mondli Makanhya

      tobydt - 2012-05-20 12:32

      So, if we were 'Afrocentric', we would have thrown rocks at jacob?

      mike.clery - 2012-05-20 15:00

      @mikenortjie - the constitution isn't "absolute". If you offend enough people, "freedom of artistic expression" can be removed. You're right that it's time for SA to grow up - and behave like adults who acknowledge and tolerate different values, rather than as children who keep pushing their luck.

      Riaan - 2012-05-20 16:30

      Aah, mike.clery our teary eyed liberal whitey again who doesn't want to offend any black in case he's accused of being a not so liberal racist. LOL

      mike.clery - 2012-05-20 17:31

      @Riaan - no just someone looking after their own interests. P!iss off enough people and *all* the protective provisions in the constitution can be removed.

  • terence.green.39 - 2012-05-20 08:01

    Oh please, half the population thinks it's ok to show their private parts on the side of the road while taking a leak in full view of my wife and kids. So can I take it that half the population is trying to show me disrespect?

      Kevin - 2012-05-20 09:13

      No Sir they are being disrespectful to themselves. They do it voluntarily and publically. Why then is it "eurocentric and negrophobic", when it is common place in their culture.

      henk63 - 2012-05-20 10:48

      I stopped being disgusted by that. I just regard it as an animal like a cow or dog relieving themselves in full view of others. This whole matter just shows how some of our countrymen can delude themselves. They can steal, you catch them red handed, they don't have a defence, but the moment you brand them as thieves they are highly offended.

      Azuki - 2012-05-20 10:54

      henk an animal is he dat has sex wit dogs n yo kind is knwn to practise such.I guess u r frottin nw coz d deal u made wit the devil ol those years ago to giv u african riches isn't holdin up lol shame poor sons of devils wit yo green eyes.evil to d core atlist I knw wen u die you ppl go strait to hell.

      Jacqui - 2012-05-20 13:06

      Azuki, what a relief, we can't understand a word you're saying!!.

  • Sidney Gilroy - 2012-05-20 08:02

    Presidents and ruling parties come and go. Art stays. Decades from now that piece will be seen as THE piece of social comment on the demise of South Africa and it's dangerous flirting with neo-communism. Brilliant, brilliant piece of work Brett Murray!

      mike.clery - 2012-05-20 13:48

      Alternatively, decades from now it may be seen as precipitating the demise of liberal democracy in SA and it's "dangerous flirting" with dismissal of the majority's values in favour of minority rights.

  • lynn.barrett.35 - 2012-05-20 08:04

    Why are they not slamming Ayanda Mabulu 'Un-mute my Tongue' That painting is far more graphic. Double standards.

      Jacqui - 2012-05-20 13:09

      Art, different colour. Only whites get slammed.

  • morapedi.tshwarelo - 2012-05-20 08:05

    The family members have every ryt to question! For me, this is stil disrespect for the president. Nxa

      spartanx93 - 2012-05-20 08:42

      When the family is funded with tax payers money. they have no right to question as I would like to question where they spend my money!

      jannie.beirowski - 2012-05-20 08:44

      It is not a question of respect or disrespect. It is a question of truth and untruth. I support the artist for upholding the truth!

      Kevin - 2012-05-20 09:18

      Disrespect, he has disrespected the nation by his promiscuity. Phansi Zuma phansi.

  • Shibe - 2012-05-20 08:05

    He desv dat

  • Pieriewaaier - 2012-05-20 08:06

    Ahem...so tell daddy in future to behave! He himself made his private parts public through his promiscuity and I assume that also caused stress to his children. If he succeeds in keeping his manly parts private and govern the country well and responsibly, just think how proud he will make you as his kids and all South Africans. Now, there's a thought worth pursuing but I think you are going to have an uphill battle as he appears to be set in his ways but I encourage you to try your best, very best!

  • franciscogaie - 2012-05-20 08:06

    The only people putting fuel on the fire are Jacob Zuma and the rest of the ANC-media-hungry-commentators. If they just left it this story would have a been over ages ago. Yet now even the likes of Michael Zuma want to get into the limelight, seriously I consider myself up to date with SA politics and have never even heard of Michael Zuma?

  • Patieluv - 2012-05-20 08:07

    Well Zapiro has dne it again. He tuk Murrays painting n changed it, instead of a \spear\ poking out of Jz's pants its nw a showerhead.

  • Michael Kleber - 2012-05-20 08:08

    i would not like to see my father depicted in such a manner neither would i want a father who had sex with his daughters friend or with one of his friends daughters and who had 4 wives and girlfriends , accused of corruption so yes do feel for these people and he is no role model .

      simonsibiya.jabulani1 - 2012-05-20 11:37

      michael between me and you we know that all you saying its just because of hatered that dwells inside of you.

      Michael - 2012-05-20 12:56

      Jabulani how do you know what dwells inside of me i am not saying kill somebody i am saying that whether you like it or not our President is a bit of an embarrassment painting or no painting , i don't hate him , i have never met him

  • Olebogeng - 2012-05-20 08:09

    It's the most disgusting that has ever been publish or said about Zuma. Now Michael, was rape not disgusting to the family?

      Claudio - 2012-05-20 08:22

      Not sure what point Olebogeng is trying to make about the rape. As has been said on a previous thread, Zuma needs to earn respect. He might be an amiable pleasant fellow but he is a hopelessly ineffectual leader, morally bankrupt. His claims to have the interests of the poor and disenfranchised at heart are hollow and meaningless when his prime concern during his presidency has been to empower his relatives and family and pay back those who have helped to shield him from the law and entrench his power base with incompetent individuals He does not deserve respect

      HugoMabasa - 2012-05-20 08:39

      he was acquited chf

      nzapheza - 2012-05-20 09:08

      Wat rape r u talking abt? U conveniently forget a court of law found there was no rape or r u blinded by yo hatred for this man?

      Warmonger - 2012-05-20 09:13

      Yes mabasa, he was acquited: because there is only ONE rule of law- for the 'poor'.. The 'wealthy' and corrupt in this country (read: anc) are exempt from the rule of law. Like Nixon said: "When the prezident does it it is Not illegal.." Yip, this painting is a Perfect example of the "Clown Yewels" !!

      Kevin - 2012-05-20 09:20

      He wasn't guilty of rape, but he was guilty of cheating on his wives and girlfriends and bringing the presidency and by implication the nation into disrepute.

  • Saul Tshekiso - 2012-05-20 08:10

    pele ga o ka re setshwantsho se siame, ipotse gore ngwana wa gago a ka utlwalega jang ha a ka bona setshwantsho sa ga rraagwe a sa tswala. le ha o ka tlhoya motho go le kae, tlotlo e tla pele gore o bontshe gore o a itlotla.

      Jacqui - 2012-05-20 13:14

      Saul, we use English here, go find your own space.

  • chrisscrossxyz - 2012-05-20 08:12

    Extremely Direspectful - I really am sorry for President Zuma that this has been done!

      Jacqui - 2012-05-20 13:15

      Chriswhite, why feel sorry, do you know him personally?.

      chrisscrossxyz - 2012-05-21 08:48

      If i do would it would it matter - duh

  • Gerald Jordaan - 2012-05-20 08:14

    Zuma the CLOWN...with his traditional spear out of his zip...AS USUAL!! why all the fuss? If the cap fits....

  • charmaine.mcdonald2 - 2012-05-20 08:16

    After all said and done, He is still the President of South Africa and I would like to hear what He has to say about this painting.

      whoowhoohoo - 2012-05-20 10:39

      Correction ! He is the president of the CNA in my book. No president of South Africa has ever made such a fool of himself.

  • polite.mkhonto.3 - 2012-05-20 08:17

    lucky german guy now it worth millions.

  • Raymond - 2012-05-20 08:17

    But They can expose themselves on the side of the road and urinate in full view of women and children.Is that also part of the culture.It is normal to suffer with Verbal Diarrhoea in this country,it is though an epidemic has hit the country,especially those on top who know a lot about nothing.

      Deana - 2012-05-20 08:23

      Raymond- well said! Couldn't have done better myself!

      Jacqui - 2012-05-20 13:18

      What about bare breasted women dancing around?. Most look like hanging baskets anyway. The breasts I mean. Oeps, I forgot, that's culture, soooo different from art.

  • Deon - 2012-05-20 08:18

    Well, didn't his own daughters hit the nail right on the head? According to them, the painting depicts him as 'savage-like', which is pretty much spot-on, I'd say.

  • pkheswa - 2012-05-20 08:19

    Lets just wait and see who has the last laugh haters!

      chrisscrossxyz - 2012-05-20 08:33

      I agree - make sh*t and you'll get it - dont cry when it comes

      Jacqui - 2012-05-20 13:20

      Chriswhite is threatening us again.Twit.

  • Herman - 2012-05-20 08:20

    Shame, cry baby cry Zuma deserves much worse than tis

      Helmut - 2012-05-20 08:57

      It should have been paintet on his forhead

  • RangoAndEmy - 2012-05-20 08:21

    Just buy yourselves another car or dress on our expense and I'm sure you'll feel better x

  • Graham - 2012-05-20 08:21

    Dear Zooma family. Any comment on the starving miners after your fat tick brother "raped" the mine and failed to pay them their salaries. And what about your other (one of many) brother who "raped" a wedding organising company by failing to pay them R1.5million. The Zooma's feel they are a cut above the rest! You give the Zulu nation a bad name!

      Deana - 2012-05-20 08:25

      Kudos!

  • mimi.ngqulana - 2012-05-20 08:22

    We all entitled to some privacy, having a person's genetals out there just for the sake of it is not on. President Zuma's term in office has been surrounded with way too much things but that does not mean that we as the public want to see his machine as he puts it. All our private parts are hidden in our bodies and they should remain unless its by consent.

      Craig Hopkins - 2012-05-20 08:27

      His term in power has been nothing but a 'cock up' & this is an accurate representation of that. The white folk of south Africa have embraced integration but the ethnic majority have done nothing but fuel a new apartheid regime & keep racism alive

      jannie.beirowski - 2012-05-20 09:20

      @tshepo. Does the truth hurt? You make no counter comments, just attacking the messenger with nothing to say about the message? It makes you wonder...

      Jacqui - 2012-05-20 13:22

      Thsepo, you don't have to show your lack of language skills to us.

  • Clayton Richard Delport - 2012-05-20 08:22

    I love the fact that a white man painted it, now it's racist and yours a disgrace to your culture... All you people want to do is shout racism, what about the one playboy chick, she is black? No disgrace there, or maybe the fact that there making black pornography, which was in the news not so long ago.

  • maseratifittipaldi - 2012-05-20 08:22

    "... something that can only be justified through a Eurocentric and negrophobia lens." It seems afro elitism, denialism and Europhobia is creeping in here. Did no other artist in the past show some balls and toti? Did anyone complain then? Why now? Because the member is central to the lifestyle and personal results of the subject?

      Jacob - 2012-05-20 08:53

      Yak? Dont force it down our throats its unpalatable puke!

      Jaco - 2012-05-20 09:38

      The truth always hurts

  • GabionGuru - 2012-05-20 08:25

    Hy is 'n Springbok in eie reg.

  • Raymond - 2012-05-20 08:28

    Probably this painting will be displayed in some Zoo in Germany.This is ZOO-MA,a new name for the Zoo.

      John - 2012-05-20 09:12

      You've all got it wrong. The German was a zuma front man who bought it, the painting is now hanging ,in a prominent position in showerheads bedroom, just to remind the wives who wields the spear.

  • tobydt - 2012-05-20 08:29

    "As a family, we are still in shock, because in our culture the parading of private parts is something that is a shame and is considered as showing disrespect to that person and others." No comment on the reed dances?

      Raymond - 2012-05-20 08:48

      They stand on the side of a highway in Full view of women and children and they openly expose themselves while urinating.We ARE the jokers of the World.

      shireen.abbas - 2012-05-20 09:13

      Yip they parade their virgins. Half nude bt they \SHOCKED \

  • Henry - 2012-05-20 08:29

    Nami nje ayingiphathanga kahle lento. Kuayabonisa ukuthi kusasekhona abantu abanenzondo kulelizwe. To say that we are a rainbow nation, that's just a fantasy. Few weeks ago, it was some models, called to order, for their racial remarks, now it's this painting, who knows what's next. Respect, that what has to be mantained.

  • Nockx - 2012-05-20 08:30

    What a bunch of cry babies

  • Stewart Croucamp - 2012-05-20 08:35

    The penis shows how South Africans are being screwed by Zuma. Long live Murray i long live.

      simonsibiya.jabulani1 - 2012-05-20 12:00

      stewart stop using the name of people of south africa while you mean yourself this has nothing to do with the people of south africa its about one racist monster who still grieve for 1994 white loss

  • Coen - 2012-05-20 08:39

    Thanks Brett! At last the age old question of 'n swart man se p...' has been answered! Give that man a Bells!

  • neels.swart.7 - 2012-05-20 08:40

    What example does Zuma show the nation sleeping with other women while he's married. How can you be married to 5 women and such a useless president corrupt as well and expect the people won't make a mockery out of you sorry Zuma you have dented your image

      Jabulani - 2012-05-20 08:54

      Some of us should be sent back our continents of origin where there's no respect for elders.

      Bomb - 2012-05-20 09:15

      @Jabulani....that means you too then, since your forefathers migrated down from the north.

      Polotic - 2012-05-20 10:09

      @Jabulani - Tell that to the ANCYL!

      Azuki - 2012-05-20 10:39

      Hey hey,wats dis nonsense abt us cumin from d north?I'm tired of this sh*t rily nw.let me say dis slowly maybe you pale skinned idiots wil get too....SOUTH AFRICAN HISTORY WAS WRITTEN BY A DUTCH MAN!a dutch man who only got here in 1652 so NO there is no truth to it n it just makes then fil beta.n YES we are d natives of this land n we wuld b very stupid to let these fools tel us odawise...

      Azuki - 2012-05-20 10:40

      Hey hey,wats dis nonsense abt us cumin from d north?I'm tired of this sh*t rily nw.let me say dis slowly maybe you pale skinned idiots wil get too....SOUTH AFRICAN HISTORY WAS WRITTEN BY A DUTCH MAN!a dutch man who only got here in 1652 so NO there is no truth to it n it just makes then fil beta.n YES we are d natives of this land n we wuld b very stupid to let these fools tel us odawise...

      henk63 - 2012-05-20 11:17

      Azuki, written history is more accurate than a verbal one which can be adapted any way the teller wants. The Dutch documented their findings in the Cape, the Voortrekkers kept diaries as they moved Northwards, and anthropologists confirmed it. The indigenous tribes killed and ate each other, as evidence showed in the Bethlehem area. The tribes the Voortrekkers did find kept in close vicinity to available surface water and they never strayed far. Blacks had great difficulty in surviving, game was fleet-footed and could not be hunted before the white man came along with his guns. As the white men settled in the drier areas of the country, there were no blacks and they had to travel on horseback for weeks on end to find some help. White farmers encouraged the black help to sire many children because it meant more help on the farms, and blacks preferred to stay close to whites for protection. It was a win-win situation, not like you love to claim how white people killed blacks on sight to steal "their" land.

      Jacqui - 2012-05-20 13:41

      Azuki's head is stuck in a beehive. Those bees are mighty angry at finding such an empty cannister of nothing.

  • Charles-Bronson - 2012-05-20 08:42

    Dear corrupted Zuma family, why do you not complain about he crime, the goverment thiefs, misuse of the tax payer money and on and on and on...

  • chrisscrossxyz - 2012-05-20 08:44

    The attempts at humour from some readers - WOW - How boring it would be to have to know you in real life! - Pathetic President Zuma has done exactly what to you personally that you could find such direspect to him as OK? - It's not!

      elkita.robbertse - 2012-05-20 10:12

      You are drunkj again chriswhite.It's too early you fool.

      chrisscrossxyz - 2012-05-20 10:27

      @elkita - good morning you picture of health you

  • dave.prinsloo - 2012-05-20 08:44

    the painting is as offensive to his family as his presidency is to the nation. He makes us look like idiots who can't keep their dix in their pants.

  • tshepo.motaung.391 - 2012-05-20 08:44

    What the heck's wrong with ya'll people? You seriously see nothing wrong with the painting?..at all?! Geez!!

      dave.prinsloo - 2012-05-20 08:48

      what is wrong with you? You see nothing wrong with zuma's character? Not offended by his corruption and rape?

      chrisscrossxyz - 2012-05-20 09:00

      Agreed - If you dont agree with someone that's fine but to lower yourself into the gutter in trying to demean someone doesn't look good when they still remain dignified in response - If I was the President I would have had him thrashed within an inch of his life!

      mikenortje - 2012-05-20 09:04

      @ Mr Motaung, you are missing the point completely, it is not the painting, it is a Freedom of artistic expression issue as protected absolutely in the constitution, which was drawn up in part by the ANC (Cyril). Do I think the painting is disrespectful well YES, would I put it up in my house definetly NO, however I support the right of MR. Murry to create the painting and for him to display it at any gallery he wants. I support his right to Freedom of Expression regardless of the fact that I think the painting is cr@p. Pulling out the race card (Negrophobic / Eurocentric) is not an argument. Mr Zuma philandering also does not help his cause, and the Auroa mine debarcle also takes the sting out of the family. You know glass houses and throwing stones!!!

      tshepo.motaung.391 - 2012-05-20 10:44

      @Dave_i'll blink to you for a moment, till you grow some sense..'coz clearly you're one biased chicken-head, like all your other buddies in this forum.\r\n@ChrisWhite_That's exactly what I'd have done too, 'n really it's what he should do! By law of course.\r\n@MrNortje_I see you talking about freedom of expression, 'n I hear ya. But that shouldn't overshadow the guy's freedom to dignity, or anyone's for that matter!

      tshepo.motaung.391 - 2012-05-20 10:54

      @Dave_i'll blink to you for a moment, till you grow some sense..'coz clearly you're one biased chicken-head, like all your other buddies in this forum.\r\n@ChrisWhite_That's exactly what I'd have done too, 'n really it's what he should do! By law of course.\r\n@MrNortje_I see you talking about freedom of expression, 'n I hear ya. But that shouldn't overshadow the guy's freedom to dignity, or anyone's for that matter!

      HugoMabasa - 2012-05-20 11:12

      dave prinsloo he was acquited on the rape charge

  • Marc - 2012-05-20 08:45

    The funny thing is that due to them making such an issue of this painting more people have gone to see it. Not to mention all the internet exposure it has been given.

  • polite.mkhonto.3 - 2012-05-20 08:50

    ALL I CAN THINK ABOUT IS THE LUCKY GERMAN GUY WHAT A VERY!!! GUD INVESTMENT,I'M JEALOUS.

  • Peter - 2012-05-20 08:54

    How SERIOUSLY NOT interesting

  • atholl.hay - 2012-05-20 08:57

    http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/how-to-respond-to-art-hint-not-with-threats-of-censorship/

  • neels.swart.7 - 2012-05-20 08:59

    HaHaHaHaHa Zuma you are a big joke not in SA but over the world HaHaHaHa yourself to blame

      simonsibiya.jabulani1 - 2012-05-20 12:28

      soundslike a truely racist you should be ashamed of yourself

  • jmareletse - 2012-05-20 09:04

    I'm nt interested not even a bit. Wen he raped and took a shower they ddnt comment! Other countries r laughing at us anyway

      HugoMabasa - 2012-05-20 11:15

      he never raped anyone,he was acquited,kanti kutheni ngalabelungu?

      Rob - 2012-05-20 19:16

      Hugo: Being acquitted does not mean that he did not do it! Two people know the truth, unless he had an audience. Nobody else, simply saying he never raped is problematic from two important perspectives. 1. The point I made about only two people knowing the truth, and note this definition of rape.....The crime of rape will be defined as "penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or anus with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person, without the consent of the victim," from...http://articles.cnn.com/2012-01-06/justice/justice_rape-definition-revised_1_definition-oral-penetration-sexual-abuse?_s=PM:JUSTICE. And nbote that a person can withdraw permition at any time! 2. Somethiung like 60 years of active life make the possibility of rape having been committed during his lifetime quite high. On this basis can you honestly make a statement that Zuma 'never raped anyone'?

  • Donna Sheree Netto - 2012-05-20 09:05

    hahahahaha pathetic out of everything zuma has done this is the thing that brings disgrace on his family, what a joke!! Maybe if he focused as much attention on real problems such as crime, housing, unemployment, education etc, instead of just misusing the tax payers money, this country could actually turn around and get somewhere instead of being the laughing stock of the world.