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Zuma 'hurt' by painting

2012-05-20 11:37

Johannesburg - President Jacob Zuma says he was “shocked, and felt personally ­offended and violated” when he saw a copy of artist Brett Murray’s painting The Spear for the first time.

The painting, which has divided public opinion in the country, ­depicts him as “a philanderer, a womaniser and one with no ­respect”, says Zuma.

That’s why he and the ANC are taking City Press and the Goodman Gallery, which is displaying the work, to court on Tuesday.

They want the gallery to remove the portrait from Murray’s Hail to the Thief II exhibition and City Press to delete the image from its website.

A continued display of the ­artwork, which shows Zuma’s ­genitals hanging out, will impugn Zuma’s dignity “in the eyes of all who see it”, the president states in an affidavit served on City Press on Friday night as part of court ­papers.

On Saturday the president’s children came to his defence, ­saying the portrait was “vulgar and lacks humanity”.

Destroys his true character

“It seeks to take away our ­father’s dignity, and destroy his true character and stature as a man, a father, and a leader of the ANC and South African society at large,” said the statement, written by his daughter Gugu on behalf of the family.

Advocates for Zuma and the ANC will argue on Tuesday in the South Gauteng High Court that The Spear is in breach of the president and the party’s constitutional rights to dignity and privacy.

The Goodman Gallery - whose owner received death threats over the weekend – and City Press are defending the action.

Zuma says the ANC takes exception “to the symbolism the portrait uses in order to portray the ANC through its president” as responsible for “abuses of power, corruption and political dumbness” – the theme of the exhibition.

Zuma says he realises that the image has been displayed to “millions within and outside the country”, and that despite its removal, “it will continue to exist in the minds of those people who have seen it or had access to it”.

But the removal of the portrait from the gallery and City Press’s website “will ensure the harm caused ... is limited to those who have seen it or had access to it”.

Zuma received support from his Cabinet colleagues and party on Saturday. Justice Minister Jeff Radebe said he wanted the portrait “banned”. “If that thing is called art, it is an insult to the dignity not only of the president but any human being. The dignity of the president has been violated.”

Criminal case of crimen injuria

Radebe said a criminal case of crimen injuria should be opened.

Arts and Culture Minister Paul Mashatile said while government believed in the right of artists to freedom of expression, it should not dehumanise fellow citizens.

Mashatile’s advisers viewed the exhibition and reported that it was insulting to Zuma and other leaders. They also said it denigrated the national coat of arms.

“If an artwork doesn’t respect reconciliation, it doesn’t contribute to nation building. We can’t have a situation where we are ­insulting each other every day,” said Mashatile.

Renowned poet and cultural ­activist Mongane Wally Serote said the painting was trivial and distasteful, and not deserving of the attention it was getting.

He said Murray’s painting faded into insignificance when viewed against the backdrop of the bigger challenges facing the country.

“We are making something ­trivial important. We are blowing it out of proportion. Whatever ­inspired that art was completely mediocre and distasteful.

Diverse SA nation

“We have a country where there are very important things that must be addressed. For example, we should be asking how we inspire people to build a diverse South ­African nation,” Serote said.

The spokesperson for the ANC Women’s League, Troy Martens, on Saturday said the painting was an insult not only to Zuma but to all South Africans “who have been subjected to their president portrayed in this sexual manner ... The painting is extremely insensitive and an expression of pure prejudice.”

Suspended prosecutions boss Advocate Menzi Simelane on Saturday declined to elaborate on his messages posted on Twitter.

On Friday night he said: “Those who are offended by the depiction of the president’s private parts must boycott City Press.”

In another tweet, he said: “The essence of Brett Murray’s message is that the person of President Zuma has no dignity and CP (City Press) agrees. This must be rejected with contempt.”

Government spokesperson Jimmy Manyi said the painting undermined the president’s “stature” to uphold the Constitution.

“The government calls upon the Goodman Gallery to take down the offensive artwork and further calls upon the media to stop publicising the untasteful portrait. We also call upon the media to be more circumspect in what they publish as we ­rebuild a South Africa that was ­ravaged by apartheid.”

ANC spokesperson Jackson Mthembu said the ANC was forced to act because if something similar came up later, the courts would ask why the party did not act.

“We want to test the limits of freedom of ­expression,” he said.

Comments
  • spartanx93 - 2012-05-20 11:41

    shame zooma is hurt.... what about all those that have been hurt cause of your incompetence at governing a country?

      Christopher - 2012-05-20 11:59

      Grow a backbone Zuma you cannot run your own backyard never mind a country.This is the first time you have spoken about any issue that pertains to South Africa in a long time, because it pertains about you.

      Christopher - 2012-05-20 12:03

      R136 000 for the painting. Hopefully they use it for an ouija board. Try get all the demons out of him!

      Tuco - 2012-05-20 12:12

      I hate to say it but Zuma had it 'cuming'. The man has demonstrated over and again that he has no self respect.How the hell are South Africans to respect him? if the ANC continues to parade this embarassment as our pres they can only expect worse sattire. A bitter pill to 'swallow'

      George - 2012-05-20 12:16

      The fact that the President is hurt and of the controversy surrounding this painting and exhibition sends a clear message to the ANC REGIME to start governing the country properly, and to elect leaders who do not have a tarnished past.

      stuart.steedman - 2012-05-20 12:24

      Art has always been the medium of dissent. It's part of being in a democracy. For those who don't like this, you're basically saying you don't like democracy. Is that what you want?

      Sharon - 2012-05-20 12:27

      we all feel violated,hurt and shocked by the fraud,theft and incompitence that is going on in government,perhaps we should take you lot to court and have you removed

      Eduard - 2012-05-20 12:38

      "Shame" from a rape victim, murdered victim, crime victim and the list continues. We are so sorry you are hurt.

      Warmonger - 2012-05-20 12:43

      I swear, if I should EVER 'bump' into Zuma and have the dubious pleasure of greeting him, I will adress him by his first name only. Jacob. The same way I will address [Martha] who serves me at the local Nando's. Or [Susan], my Doctors receptionist. You have done NOTHING Jacob to instill ANY type of respect from ANY person with [more than-] 2 brain cells. I hope somebody presents you with a print of the original painting, for prosperities sake! I have mine already Jacob (framed and all), with a little plaque at the bottom: "Clown Yewels". Focus piece in my wine cellar!! :-)

      Christopher - 2012-05-20 12:48

      @warmonger...what about Showerhead?

      GrootWitHaai - 2012-05-20 13:26

      The painting is symbolic of the 'President'. You reap what you sow Zooma.

      koos.vandermerwe.92 - 2012-05-20 13:31

      “In particular, the portrait depicts me in a manner that suggests I am a philanderer, a womaniser and one with no respect. It is an undignified depiction of my personality and seeks to create doubt about my personality in the eyes of fellow citizens, family and children,” he says. “It is clear in the eyes of those viewing the portrait that it seeks to depict me in a bad, undignified and degrading manner. Furthermore, in terms of the theme of the exhibition, my portrait is meant to convey a message that I am an abuser of power, corrupt and suffer political ineptness.” Zuma says the portrait is “making a mockery of the office of the (president)” and he “takes exception to the symbolism that the portrait uses in order to portray the ANC through its president as responsible for ‘abuses of power, corruption and political dumbness’.”

      koos.vandermerwe.92 - 2012-05-20 14:37

      No need giving me thumbs down. This is what the spearman said himself. A real honest description of himself.

      James - 2012-05-20 15:27

      Prof Dunning Cornell U confirmed in a study that some people are too stupid to realize they are stupid. Subject all voters to an IQ test only then allow them to vote.

      Fussed - 2012-05-20 15:40

      We are hurting as well, watching gov stripping this country

      Whitkath - 2012-05-20 17:39

      Mathata - Zuma could not even remember the incident with the spilt beverage.......so how could he be magnanimous if he does not remember.

      alansmartSnr - 2012-05-20 19:48

      .. Respect has no price, colour or creed. RESPECT IS ONLY WHAT PEOPLE EARN. IT'S NOT FOR FREE!!!!.. and besides, most of the population think he's a dick-head anyhow.

      Lorain - 2012-05-21 07:30

      Thése are the pros and cons of democracy unfortunately, none pf these people condoning this would dare try to do this on a painting of verwoerd

      Martin - 2012-05-21 07:41

      Jacob, your feelings are noones problems but your own, grow up.

      Merven - 2012-05-21 07:57

      Trust me Zuma, not nearly as hurt as the taxpayer looking after you harem and offspring.

      nigel.vanysendyk - 2012-05-21 08:23

      can you imagine how it must have hurt to be raped by him, he has got a cheek to complain about being hurt by this painting, I must say though, I don't see the point of this painting anyway.

      Preshen - 2012-05-21 08:33

      The artist has “hard feelings” towards Zuma

      Mark - 2012-05-21 08:43

      This is what people think of you Zuma, time to wake up... for every action there is a reaction... you reap what you sow... act like a pervert, get treated like one....

      Susan - 2012-05-21 09:21

      Oh Zuma, people already knew what you are, the painting merely sums it up...

      Gichumz - 2012-05-21 10:36

      https://www.facebook.com/pages/Brett-Murray-For-South-African-President/358167054243155

      Boeretroos - 2012-05-21 12:31

      He must really get tired by carrying all that "extra weight" around hey ?. I think he just loves the painting. Amandla of so iets ! LMFAO

      Denise - 2012-05-22 00:49

      Nobody needs to attack Zuma’s “dignity”… he is doing a mighty fine job of it himself. In my opinion the painting of Zuma is quite good. There are much worse pictures of him around dancing in animals skins. At least Brett Murray portrays him as a bit sophisticated wearing a western suit and the glasses on his face indicates some level of education. He is being portrayed as Mr. King Dingeling Zuma, sophisticated and learned. So what is all the fuss about or why Zuma is so hurt? Sometimes I do not know whether Zuma is complaining or bragging.

  • lebo.bucibo - 2012-05-20 11:42

    Hurt my backside. All that this president has been doing since taking over that office is get more bedroom furniture.

  • goyougoodthing - 2012-05-20 11:43

    Boo hoo, we feel violated by your actions everyday. Go cry a river.

      AnthonyfromAfrica - 2012-05-20 12:04

      Who is "we" ????

      goyougoodthing - 2012-05-20 12:06

      Anyone with half a brain and pays tax which is then misused.

      goyougoodthing - 2012-05-20 12:15

      Or perhaps Anthony, anyone who is a parent, who wonders if the boys will behave like Zuma and the girls will obey. What about those that work hard only to have their money taken as tax and used to finance private houses and many wives whilst they themselves struggle to put food on the table. Perhaps those that live with the consequences of his actions, from top to bottom everyday.

      Gichumz - 2012-05-21 10:36

      https://www.facebook.com/pages/Brett-Murray-For-South-African-President/358167054243155

  • solverman - 2012-05-20 11:44

    go take a shower Zuma.... !

      Gichumz - 2012-05-21 10:36

      https://www.facebook.com/pages/Brett-Murray-For-South-African-President/358167054243155

  • dave.prinsloo - 2012-05-20 11:45

    art mirrors society. Mirrors can be cruel. Truth shocks and hurts, you're right jz. Change your legacy, people will draw nice pictures of you.

      dave.prinsloo - 2012-05-20 19:15

      vuyiswa, that did not make any sense whatsoever. Go read a book.

      TaniaSandraSteyn - 2012-05-20 22:21

      What did Terreblanche do to you personally, Vuyiswa? Offend your dignity? I am more offended that the tax I pay every single day through VAT, petrol, personal tax, is being misappropriated (a kind for for stealing) misused, and lying in situ (not being used), because of BBE, BBBEE, and incompetence. Face up to it, let's work together, or the rest of the world will be feasting on our leftovers.

  • Pieter - 2012-05-20 11:46

    And the irony is...it is not even him on the painting...it's Vavi!

      ian.d.samson - 2012-05-20 12:05

      It's not Vavi, it's Lenin!

      Lacrimose - 2012-05-20 13:19

      It's not Vavi or Lenin. It's Napoleon :)

      Gichumz - 2012-05-21 10:37

      https://www.facebook.com/pages/Brett-Murray-For-South-African-President/358167054243155

  • glen.e.huysamer - 2012-05-20 11:49

    Welcome to what the nation feels about the precedency, welcome to how the people feel about you....Zuma.

      Gichumz - 2012-05-21 10:37

      https://www.facebook.com/pages/Brett-Murray-For-South-African-President/358167054243155

  • Philemon - 2012-05-20 11:52

    Mr Zuma is a human being, a father to his children and last but not least he is the president of the country.

      spartanx93 - 2012-05-20 12:01

      He ain't my president. I don't believe in people who are concerned for only their self interest!

      goyougoodthing - 2012-05-20 12:02

      Then he should behave as such.

      Oom - 2012-05-20 12:03

      He should think of his behaviour and the damage it causes to close friends and relatives, the picture only tells a story of a deeply troubled man.

      Morama - 2012-05-20 12:03

      We dont deny that but he is morally not ok.Let him start doing good and the next pictures would reflect that.He must stop crying like a little man but instead mend his ways!!!

      Michael Green - 2012-05-20 12:05

      What a load of crap! Zuma is a terrible leader, the painting actually does him justice. Too late Zumie... Whatever you do now, nothing will stop your painting from going viral and showing the world your true colors from this time on and throughout history!

      tobydt - 2012-05-20 12:07

      A father to ilegitimae children as well. Which is what the painting is about. Why is jacob upset if the picture depicts him as a 'philanderer' and as a 'womanizer', when he is guilty of his own actions. Our president aint the sharpest tool in the shed.

      AnthonyfromAfrica - 2012-05-20 12:09

      Spartanx93 If JZ is not your President, you don't belong in SA !! SA is a democracy, and JZ is the leader of the by far largest party. You don't like it; Tough luck !!!

      Christopher - 2012-05-20 12:12

      @Philemon...Father? I thought he was a sperm bank?

      spartanx93 - 2012-05-20 12:13

      @Anthony - Go play in the traffic! You are also one that bats for both teams when it suits you.

      Craig - 2012-05-20 12:32

      Please... Being President does not give JZ738 diplomatic immunity from recieving comments about his seedy habits!!! As the old saying goes, "You do the crime, you do the time"

      Sean - 2012-05-20 13:46

      @Philemon - Is he realy a president ?? Eish , you could have fooled me , lollllllllll !!!!

      alansmartSnr - 2012-05-20 19:49

      Respect has no price, colour or creed. RESPECT IS ONLY WHAT PEOPLE EARN. IT'S NOT FOR FREE!!!!.. and besides, most of the population think he's a dick-head anyhow.

      CliveK - 2012-05-21 08:32

      Yes, Philemon, and perhaps if he behaved like a president he would not have been portrayed in this way. As for his children, he should have thought of them before impregnating young women who were not his wife or "fiancee". If, as Jake implies, this is what people will remember him for, that's his own fault. His presidency has been characterised by a lack of leadership and accountability, and an exponential increase in incompetence, corruption, indecisiveness, theft, waste - you name it - to say nothing of international embarrassment. He puts his own political survival ahead of the country's interests. For the record, I find the painting vulgar, and not because of whom it portrays, but then what do I know about art.

      Shaun - 2012-05-21 10:30

      What's your point? He has also made some colossal mistakes and demonstrated bad judgement consistently. Are we to ignore this because he is a human and a father?

      chilli.stephenson1 - 2012-05-21 15:02

      He should behave like a father and a President then and not like a single, horny teen, running around getting his rocks off with anything that moves, or Lies down! Its disgusting! He needs to be taken out of power now and replaced, just like Bill Clinton was taken out. Cause This is unacceptable.

  • Bertus - 2012-05-20 11:53

    A spear only a few are allowed to see (his 5 wives and many other wives-to-be). So what Zoom Zoom? That spear is in any case not as sacred as you want it to be.

      Gichumz - 2012-05-21 10:37

      https://www.facebook.com/pages/Brett-Murray-For-South-African-President/358167054243155

  • Ted - 2012-05-20 11:53

    Where did the so-called 'artist' see the President's machinery and its arrangement?

      mholthuysen - 2012-05-20 12:50

      Ask the 980 women or so who saw it last year.

      Christopher - 2012-05-20 12:53

      correct Mike:)

      carpejugulim - 2012-05-20 18:36

      if he was that upset about "misrepresentation" he could have offered to pose

      John - 2012-05-21 02:59

      One of his wives sent a picture of it with a note saying "this is what we wives have to put UP with daily"

  • stuart.steedman - 2012-05-20 11:53

    It doesn't matter now, it's already got its own Wikipedia page at, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Spear_%28painting%29. I'd like to see Zuma Inc. take that image down, it's online for millions to see, forever.

      Simon - 2012-05-20 12:24

      Awesome!

      John - 2012-05-21 03:13

      Thanks for the link Stuart. Awesome stuff. I've already sent the link to all my friends around the world. The expats in my local here in Thailand when I showed them a copy of it I printed off my computer, peed themselves laughing, one guy grabbed it and posted it up on the pubs notice board with the caption "THE PRESIDENT OF SOUTH AFRICA" I wish you could have hear the comments from the bar girls.

  • tobydt - 2012-05-20 11:56

    The painting, which has divided public opinion in the country, ­depicts him as “a philanderer, a womaniser and one with no ­respect” For once, jacob nailed it.

      Fanie - 2012-05-20 18:45

      ...it is nailing that started it all......

  • Morama - 2012-05-20 11:57

    “a philanderer, a womaniser and one with no ­respect”, says Zuma And that's really who you are Mr Shower head,You made a lot of kids out of the wedlock not mentioning the klomp of wifes you have and still more to come because it looks like that's what you are only best at!!!

      Herman - 2012-05-20 12:59

      I think the portrait in fact is not about Zuma, but about the ANC, and how they failed the nation. The reason Zuma is used in the picture is accidental, the artist could just as well used Mandela to tell his message.

  • Simon - 2012-05-20 11:57

    We are hurt too. By corruption, farm murders, incompetent governance, useless and counterproductive bee, nepitism, counter racism, misuse of our taxes, hypocrisy, etc etc etc etc....................

      Vuyiswa - 2012-05-20 14:08

      But not as hurt as what magnus malan has done

      koos.vandermerwe.92 - 2012-05-20 14:21

      At least Genl Malan is a man of integrity. Something zoomer will never have.

      shawnqatar - 2012-05-20 20:09

      Shame Jacob you refer to your dignity being hurt. What about all the women and children that have been raped and abused what about there dignity. Oh sorry I forgot you and your cabinet only worry about yourselves. Jacob you need to wake up and catch a whiff of your cold coffee

  • Tamaranui - 2012-05-20 11:59

    Predictable responses. Wonder if all the countries that progressed after being flattened by WW2 would have succeeded if the population thought in this manner. This image is not appreciated here, How many here would hang this in their home. Do this in the west were it would be more at home.

      spartanx93 - 2012-05-20 12:04

      well the french did not go around screwing the country side after WW2.

      Richard - 2012-05-20 12:06

      I think its quite funny. People dont respect zuma and never will. Until the day when people do respect our president , nothing will change in our country.

      tobydt - 2012-05-20 12:10

      The painting, which has divided public opinion in the country, ­depicts him as “a philanderer, a womaniser and one with no ­respect” So Tamaranui, did jacob not have illegitimate children out of wedlock? Is he not a womanizer or a philanderer?

      tobydt - 2012-05-20 12:36

      Tamaranui - Why are you using black culture to defend the sexual deviant?

      tobydt - 2012-05-20 12:36

      Tamaranui - eTamaranui mthandi makulu nthondo :P

      Christopher - 2012-05-20 12:39

      Just imagine that he knows that everyone knows about this painting and what it stands for...Now imagine meeting heads of state across the globe, and they know exactly what this painting stands for...Zuma you have finally nailed the door shut on your credibility, no one has respect for you anymore. You might as well stay home and tend to your cattle.

      Tamaranui - 2012-05-20 12:47

      Paul, When Afropeans commit this crime it is not their Culture either, it is done by individuals...Surely you are educated enough to understand this fundamental error in your comment. The best thing about this is that now the world can see what some are up to in this country. The cry about persecution however the have the gall to disparage the President in this manner. At the court case we will have a sobbing President....Well done for exposing your tainted souls......

      tobydt - 2012-05-20 12:53

      Tamaranui - Boohoo, a 'sobbing president'. Are you aware that one of the ladies that jacob slept with had to flee the country?

      Tamaranui - 2012-05-20 13:12

      All I say is.... If you ain't part of the solution , you are part of the problem.....

      tobydt - 2012-05-20 13:38

      Tamaranui - "If you ain't part of the solution , you are part of the problem" Indeed.

      christiaan.h.jacobs - 2012-05-20 15:00

      @ Tamaranui... So glad you mentioned WW2. The Germans, French, English etc were bombed back to the stone age but 18 years later they were much better off than us 18 years after the end of apartheid. Your ANC was handed the keys to a first world country and yet 18 years on SA is going downhill fast!

  • Philemon - 2012-05-20 12:00

    Just be thankful that Mr Zuma doesn't think like Mugabe because I can see that some whities are so happy.

      stuart.steedman - 2012-05-20 12:01

      Racist troll is obvious.

      Christopher - 2012-05-20 13:05

      I am surprised that someone like philemon has internet or understands how to turn a computer on, never mind logging in. H O W... A R E... Y O U... P H I L E M O N ? (asking a question)

      alansmartSnr - 2012-05-20 19:57

      How the hell can you defame anybody who is so inept, has so many corruption charges being investigated,(Prima faci)..So many wives, children, appointing and protecting crooks and thieves (fact)and screwing the whole country. Too many adverse things to mention - he is beyond being able to defame in my book.

      Bob - 2012-05-21 15:00

      Black racism, alive and well.... hey Philemon..we are only one step away from a Mugube state,not long now and remember, Mugabe only shot black people...lots of them...who do you vote for..??

  • Ad - 2012-05-20 12:04

    Why you hurt Jacob?..Is it not the right size?

      wesley.nel.5 - 2012-05-20 12:12

      It was painted in the winter.

      Vuyiswa - 2012-05-20 14:05

      Ad it hurts it your size not the president's

      Ad - 2012-05-20 16:30

      @Vuyiswa ..is that why you walk so funny?..cos it seems like you know what you talking about!!

  • Ntobane Setabola - 2012-05-20 12:05

    Reproducing bastards by different women while the world fights HIV;sexing ur buddy's daughter;advised the universe HIV can be showered out;quickly parolling ur corrupt friends;withdrawing ur buddies' murder,corruption n fraud charges;stealing our tax to feed ur choir of wives;etc.-all that couldn't make u;zooma shed a tear, but ink on paint did

      koos.vandermerwe.92 - 2012-05-20 14:24

      Well said Ntobane.

  • Ken - 2012-05-20 12:06

    Thats not Zuma in the portrait, Zuma is a much bigger Pr!ck!

      Vuyiswa - 2012-05-20 13:57

      Its p.w. Botha

      alansmartSnr - 2012-05-20 19:50

      Respect has no price, colour or creed. RESPECT IS ONLY WHAT PEOPLE EARN. IT'S NOT FOR FREE!!!!.. and besides, most of the population think he's a dick-head anyhow.

  • Kagiso Tlhakung - 2012-05-20 12:09

    Oh my President feel sorry for u, now whr are all the organizations that claim to defend our rights and democracy. Do these organizations now see how ppl can abuse their rights in the name of democracy?? Lets reverse this and paint Botha, Verwoerd wit their privates exposed en u will see them coming out of their caves running fighting en goin to court even killing. SA ppl r 2 faced en practice double standards...they fought against a porn channel DSTV and TopTv wanted to introduce but they cant fight against such a public display of private parts. Lets paint Haffajee and Zille with their privates exposed. En y did ICASA not ban the publication of this pic??

      thabo.rangaka1 - 2012-05-20 18:59

      Kagiso, it is NOT Botho what this boy Murray did. I bet he does not have the guts to potray his own father and grandfather to practice hsi right to Freedom of Artistic Expression! If I were one of Zumas kids, I woud be in prison now, having shown this Murray brat and the Goodman Gallery their collective mothers!

      TaniaSandraSteyn - 2012-05-20 23:23

      The picture is a symbol of corruption, not a photo, Kagiso. Fuf. And the blind leads the blind...

      Sam - 2012-05-21 07:06

      Kagiso, what grade are you in

      chilli.stephenson1 - 2012-05-21 16:15

      Kagiso and Dr... you are both idiots... did you know? Its funny how many intelligent blacks there are that are not offended, and who do not support Zuma or the ANC. ANC has had its day. They will not last much longer. Even your own people can see that they are very bad for this country. And if you want a change, you have to be the change!

      chilli.stephenson1 - 2012-05-21 16:16

      DrFeelGood, please stop handing out your pamphlets for Penis enlargment on the street corners..

  • Tugwana - 2012-05-20 12:09

    If you hated the singing of "dubul'ibhunu" as a form of expression then you should also "condemn this painting". There should be no dbl standards!

      michael.a.devilliers - 2012-05-20 12:58

      No. People like you aren't wanted in OUR country. Not stuff off back to whatever pit spawned you.

      Tugwana - 2012-05-20 13:55

      You are delusional. I don't want to belong in your imaginary country wherein insults to a Pres dignity is celebrated. You must GET OUT of or you'll be forced!

      Mewik - 2012-05-20 14:18

      Only a fool wishes to go to war and clearly you are that fool. You have spent way too much time watching the Disney Channel and eating McDonalds to even know what you are wishing for. War isn't a pleasant thing for either side just for the record.

      James - 2012-05-20 15:51

      Yo Bub some scientific facts. Negroid DNA within 3% of Ocean Invertebrate.Source any Bio Chemist with PHD in Nano Tech. IQ -15 points. In US despite Aff action Black nett worth +-$2000 white +- $100,000. Black guy fathered 30 Kids with 11 women. Associate Prof Alexander "Of working age Blacks 50% in jail on parole or on probation.

      justus.kilian - 2012-05-20 17:27

      Show me where the painting calls for anyone to be killed? Where does the painting incite violence? Of course, I don't expect anyone who made that retarded comparison in the first place to come back with a rational answer. So those questions where rhetorical;from the comment I could gather that I'd have to point that out.

      Sam - 2012-05-21 07:07

      It's just a little pippie. What's the fuss about

      danny.levin.351 - 2012-05-21 08:46

      Tugwana, I'm probably wasting my time but let me try and make you see the light. There is a HUGE difference between painting a picture that depicts a person in the light that the painter sees him and on the other hand singing a song that encites to KILL people of a certain colour. particularly in a country where so many of your brethen are already busy killing farmers (white farmers). are you now saying that inciting to murder people is also part of your culture? I think your statement is a insult to the many black (educated) people who strive to keep this country on sane tracks, and obviously to white people.

      xinobia.goodridge - 2012-05-22 12:03

      @michael - You are exactly the same as the idiot who played the race card in the first place. Ignorant!!!! It is because of short sighted people like you that racism will never die. I don't agree with Tugwana, but I wish all racist people would just keep their stupid comments to themselves.

  • Mawande Willy Wenzell Mbudane - 2012-05-20 12:11

    why every article on N24 u make it a race issue. South Africans never grow and this country is going down bcz of u (blacks and whites). I pray dat one day God makes the colour of our skin da same (green) and all this crap race nonsense would stop.

      dewaldmontgomery - 2012-05-20 13:47

      Then there should be no problem with that DA poster... Interracial marriage will eventually result in just that: Everyone with the same skin colour. Not that it matters, but anyhow.

      James - 2012-05-20 15:56

      The real problem is smart and dumb. Eg in Israel the Ashkenazi discriminates against the Sephardim.They don't hire them or marry them.

      chilli.stephenson1 - 2012-05-22 08:39

      I agree 100% dude. Everything always ends up becoming a race issue. Its patehtic. I am white with lots of black friends. They are more intelligent than most whites i know. I love all people, but what i do not like, is being screwed over by Government. Being taken for fools by the people in power, who are supposed to be caring and watching over the people of the country they lead! My black friends all agree, and i can guarentee you, when a level headed, educated black man or woman, who does not carry resentment over the past, takes control of the ANC, then we will see a real change. We will then see improvement. But Whites and blacks need to stop this racist bull, and start being the change they want to see! We cannot all be living in the past, yet expecting a better future.

  • frikkie.botes - 2012-05-20 12:11

    No 1 it is Lenin ,not Zuma, no2 The face belongs to Vavi not Zuma, and if the penis belongs to Zuma then he can feel hurt.

      frikkie.botes - 2012-05-20 17:48

      Vladimir Lenin in his article on ‘Leftwing Communism: an infantile disorder' in answer to the question, ‘Should revolutionaries work in reactionary trade unions?" had this to say: "We are waging a struggle against the "labour aristocracy" in the name of the masses of the workers and in order to win them over to our side; we are waging the struggle against the opportunist and social-chauvinist leaders in order to win the working class over to our side. It would be absurd to forget this most elementary and most self-evident truth. Yet it is this very absurdity that the German "Left" Communists perpetrate when, because of the reactionary and counter-revolutionary character of the trade union top leadership, they jump to the conclusion that ... we must withdraw from the trade unions, refuse to work in them, and create new and artificial forms of labour organisation! This is so unpardonable a blunder that it is tantamount to the greatest service Communists could render the bourgeoisie." VAVI and LENIN stand for the same ideology. therefore VAVI was put on the body of Lenin with his penis sticking out which portrays that what vavi is doing isnt hidden.

  • Juicecard - 2012-05-20 12:15

    Zuma you were so naive to fire Malema coz he was taking away scrutiny from you. Now that Juju is gone , all the missiles are trained on you.You are in the kitchen so just feel the heat spearman!

  • valcooperRSA - 2012-05-20 12:19

    Shame zoomah is hurt....and feels violated........has zoomah any idea how he has violated the country and its citizens....i hope he reads these posts.....umm...ja ..thats another point can he read....

      alansmartSnr - 2012-05-20 19:51

      Respect has no price, colour or creed. RESPECT IS ONLY WHAT PEOPLE EARN. IT'S NOT FOR FREE!!!!.. and besides, most of the population think he's a dick-head anyhow.

  • jaysonpaul.beckwith - 2012-05-20 12:19

    To be honest. Up until Friday, I never heard of Brett Murray before. He is now world famous. It shows that any publicity is good publicity. No matter how you look at it. Take a couple of models throwing racial insults around,,,KABOOM,,,famous.

  • shamiel.mathews - 2012-05-20 12:20

    He should have thought about the effect his disgusting lifestyle has on the country. We all have our culture we can hide behind...but all these illegitimate children. I am not a Mbeki man, but he ran his private affairs with much more respect....like any decent statesman should. You brought this on yourself Jacob.

      Donald - 2012-05-20 12:40

      What next zuma puppets disgrace

  • Kagiso Tlhakung - 2012-05-20 12:22

    ok u call our President..Lenin?? Ok then Verwoerd was a Hitler...en u boers commenting are skinheads. En the apartheid whr the most corrupt hateful disgusting humans ever...thats y the whole world hated them. At least Zuma's ANC gov has neva killed anybody to stay in power, neva stole land, neva removed ppl forcefully from their homes, neva made no- go-zones for anybody, neva denied ppl any of their rights. The ANC is the best party but many r being lied to by white parties DA...that use black ppl to fight their battles. Murray is a racist and Goodman Gallery are the hellhole

      Meyer - 2012-05-20 12:33

      Uhm, Kagiso Your post sounds a tad racist. And mb lrn t spl?

      Bobo - 2012-05-20 12:42

      Ok so ummmm... Kagiso Tlhakung - What you are trying to say is that you are a God and you never sinned through your entire life ? Well done....Oh and the ANC is all saints ? Not verry bright are you ?

      craig.a.salter - 2012-05-20 13:00

      Kagiso so land reform is not kicking ppl out there homes and into the street, it is not taking the land that alot of those ppl being affecte4d by it did work hard and use their life savings to but just to be givin away. GROW UP forget the race card we all bleed the same

      frikkie.botes - 2012-05-20 17:30

      Kagiso, your lack of knowledge makes you comment like a fool. Look at that picture. it is LENIN Of RUSIAS photo http://www.news.com.au/world/uproar-over-vulgar-zuma-portrait/story-fn6sb9br-1226360777490 .

      TaniaSandraSteyn - 2012-05-21 00:33

      Nicolaas, jy is 'n rassistiese ekstremis van die eerste water. Ek hoop jy is klaar oppad oorsee in 'n klein roeibootjie - waar ookal jy arriveer sal jy nie welkom wees nie.

      Sam - 2012-05-21 07:09

      Anger management classes kagiso.

      Fiona - 2012-05-21 13:49

      Eish Kagiso, I live in South Africa, I don't know where you are living, but I want to live in Dreamland too... Politics is filled with nasty people, African, European, Asian.... I am old enough to recall the turmoil we went through.. As a 12 year old, I SAW WHAT a NECKLACE VICTIM looked like, I SAW the black smoke coming from the township less than1km from our house in town... These are pictures stuck in my mind, burned on my soul, and I am WHITE.... I was a child, and had no say.... don't tar everybody with the same brush. BAD things happen to GOOD people in those days, the area was ANC, many of the violent acts were NOT ONLY committed by the police/army, but Black on Black....Wake up. Politics is a dirty business where NOBODY plays fair. the ANC is not guiltless my man, it had a good cause.... BUT freedom from tyrany does not necessarily happen bloodlessly, then OR NOW... cover-ups happen. and I for one am still happy that freedom of speech is finally a right BECAUSE IT WAS NOT RECOGNISED DURING THE APARTHEID ERA, irrespective of your colour!!!!!!

  • moses.mnguni - 2012-05-20 12:23

    This painting should b trashed,Period.\r\nBrett Murray is out of Order.

      Meyer - 2012-05-20 12:41

      And why Moses?

      Christopher - 2012-05-20 13:09

      Dartboard?

      koos.vandermerwe.92 - 2012-05-20 14:27

      Please don't tell me that you respect zoomer.

  • tricia.sutherland1 - 2012-05-20 12:25

    he can't feel any more hurt than those who suffer hunger and unemployment - he is the man who is supposed o bring change. SA is a great country full of resources - there should be no starving homeless people in SA.

      Tamaranui - 2012-05-20 12:32

      Yes, Once we Nationalize the mines we can take funds generated from Resources to accelerate the transformation. Tricia, The biggest change has been at the lower socio-economic areas....go to one and see the huge changes in Infrastructure, Housing & Education.

      michael.a.devilliers - 2012-05-20 13:00

      @Tamaranui - yeah sure, have you seen what nationalising does - name me ONE place where it has been SUCCESSFUL.

      tobydt - 2012-05-20 13:08

      Zimbabwe nationalised the mines, 95% unemployment.

  • Stewart Croucamp - 2012-05-20 12:29

    It is not a true reflection of Zuma. I am sure that at 70 the spear is a little more wilted.

      semakalengjenny.motana - 2012-05-20 14:53

      Hahaha can't stop laughing ...

  • Deon - 2012-05-20 12:30

    Zuma had already 'impugned' his own 'dignity' long, long before this painting was even a twinkle in Brett's eye!!

  • sapepa.sapepa - 2012-05-20 12:31

    I will be the first to admit that Zuma is incompetent and corrupt amongst other things. But he is still human, and like everyone else, he deserves the right to dignity. Since when did freedom of expression become more important than the right to dignity? For a second lets imagine that this happened to someone else. If someone painted Helen Zille with her vagina hanging out how would we react? Lets not let our moral compass be distorted just because of how we feel about Zuma. That’s someone’s (21 people to be exact)father, husband and an elder to most of the people in this country. This is just like what happened to Sarah Baatman, exposing someone’s gentiles for other people’s amusement.

      TaniaSandraSteyn - 2012-05-21 00:20

      Nicolaas. you are an a*hole of the highest order. You are enforcing racial hatred, idiot. Wake up, and smell the roses. How do we continue living in our country with your kind of silly hate, that has not reality in currents issues? Focus, boykie, focus.

      TaniaSandraSteyn - 2012-05-21 00:26

      Sorry Sapepa. that was meant for Nicolaas. However, you also have one foot in the grave. Respect is a strange thing - one only respects what is tangible, righteous, and has the same values as the majority, and I am sure 49% of women in SA do not support polygamy. The others either don't know, or don't care. Too many babies, too many babies. End of story.

      chilli.stephenson1 - 2012-05-21 16:32

      Respect is earned. Do you understand. This whole country, and the whole world, love Madiba. Because we truly respect Him as a great leader and a man of Integrity, Good Morals etc. And he fought for the right of the people. He stood up, and made a real difference! What has Zuma done for south Africa. What has Zuma and all the guys that came after Madiba done to continue his legacy... Nothing! They will not get respect, until they earn it! And at 70 years old, Zuma should be more responsible than most people. But he is not. He is a disgrace.

  • doneven.cloete - 2012-05-20 12:31

    The WAY bra ZUMA WAS Acting i dont think he can be surprise,cause he was already naked sorry ZUMA Think you had BALLS but now we see you have only MARBELS.

  • Konanani - 2012-05-20 12:33

    The more i read the coments,the more i regret hating julius malema

  • Garth - 2012-05-20 12:35

    With all his illegitimate children he has he clearly loves sharing his spear.. So why be upset if it is shared with the whole nation?? Personally I thought the artist gave him a grand spear!!

      Pixie86 - 2012-05-20 13:23

      he is not the only south african man with illegitimate kids. SA is crawling with those. I suppose paintings should pop up of them as well.

      chilli.stephenson1 - 2012-05-22 08:43

      Yes Pixie. Come on man... When you are President of a country, you gotta act accordingly! Rememeber what happened to Bill Clinton? Same Thing here, just Bill didnt get a painting... well not that i know of anyway!

  • tikoloshe.hogana - 2012-05-20 12:36

    this freedom belongs to white racists. not a word from human rights groups. shame. bring back Malema. we need Zanu pf style in this country. mr President is a human being and a father

      tobydt - 2012-05-20 12:37

      ...and a womanizer and a philanderer.

      Graeme Grim Adams - 2012-05-20 13:40

      Can all the black people stop thinking everything is racist. This is protest art. The president has done nothing that doesn't justify this art piece. This is a democratic freedom, being able to voice opinions about people leading the country is vital to a healthy democracy. If Zuma doesn't want to be depicted in a bad light, why does he do things that allow for it. America does it to their presidents. If you cannot see the painting for what it is, you are blind to what democracy is.

      Bobo - 2012-05-20 19:14

      Who you calling racist ? - Racist? There`s no place for any racists in this country be it black or white or whatever.Last time I checked this is a democratic country, not a communist one..If however you don`t agree you are still free to go back to Zimbabwe - your choice.

      Sam - 2012-05-21 07:11

      But he had a shower and everything is just fine now

      chilli.stephenson1 - 2012-05-22 08:50

      Tikoloshe... You have no idea of what you are even talking about. Seriously. Zuma may be a father and a husband, but he is also the Leader of this country, and so his acts should reflect responsibility. The young kids are suppose to look at our leaders and be inspired to be like them. Would you want your kid growing up with Zuma and Malemas Morals. Because if you would, then you yourself have no morals either and are unfit to be a parent! As Leadership, you should always act responsibly, and accordingly. If you set terrible examples, then you must be removed from leadership. Its very simple. Remember, influence flows from the Top down... So from the leaders it flows down to our children. We need great leaders, who respect us, and give a great example to our children. Not a criminal, sexual deviant! That is not the example i want for my children, and you shouldnt want that for your childen. None of us should!!! Thsi has got nothing to do with race. Its about Leadership Responsibilities!

  • Kevin - 2012-05-20 12:38

    I disagree with this painting - it about time we start repecting each other no matter from what race or party one comes - this has to start from the very top - our leaders currently show no respect to anything or anybody - it's all about me, me and I - let them start by actively demonstrating nation building - like by calling all our people citizens and stop dividing us all by race and party. A nations character is determined by its leaders and thier actions - let the tone be set from the top - unfortunately the current tone is creating what our society has become.......!

      koos.vandermerwe.92 - 2012-05-20 14:31

      Respect is earned, not a right.

  • George - 2012-05-20 12:38

    Let me see how far my race card will go from here, where are black artist? can they publish the body of Eugene with his pants on his ankle? May I call upon to all black people who wanted to reconcile to what our country has gone through. There's that crowed of minority who have no respect at all to our culture and our beliefs. Let's show them that yes we're true animals who can make their stay in this country miserable in all angles of their lives. When someone shows no respect of you and your family, deal with him accordingly, enough is enough, let us go to civil war once and for all. There after, we will start and learn to respect other human beings. LET THE WAR ON CRIME BEGIN, LET US SEE IF MY STORY WILL BE PUBLISHED, NEWS 24, I'M WATCHING THIS SPACE.

      Ad - 2012-05-20 13:16

      George..you need a high five.......with a chair...............in the face!!.........for your stupid comment.

      Christopher - 2012-05-20 13:20

      Ag George...Big talk no action kind of guy...Ok the war has begun...now what?

      mikenortje - 2012-05-20 14:03

      OK Mr George, what about Ayanda Mabulu should he be first in the row to be killed, anway how very ANC / COSATU of you ...... solve all your problems with violance. http://ridwanlaher.blogspot.com/2012/05/should-anc-sue-artist-ayanda-mabulu-for.html

      Antin - 2012-05-20 15:48

      You touch on a truth, George. Where are the black artists, making a fool of Eugene Terreblanche indeed? But all you simians could do is: kill him. Says a lot about you chaps. And then talk about "CULTURE" in the same paragraph! Ha! About "Let's show them that yes we're true animals", Don't bust a gut. Doing fine for now. You could upscale, but the principle has been clearly revealed already. Remember: respect is earned -the likes of you are worth NOTHING. And you do a nice job here to prove it once more.....

  • malusi.mtetwa - 2012-05-20 12:40

    This is rather sad, inhuman, disrespectful, barbaric, highest form of insult. The saddest part is its the 1st Citizen of the Country. How can one vow to be proudly South African if they insult their Head of the State? Embarrassed South african.

      Garth - 2012-05-20 12:51

      I may be proudly South African but I am most certainly not proud of the current president! He is a disgrace!! Having said that, I personally believe that the painting is voicing an opinion against him as a person and not his skin colour!

      Raoul Duke - 2012-05-20 13:02

      It's getting harder and harder for me to defend our country and our leaders to my friends abroad. Im a white man, an African by birth, and a citizen of the world. I am free in my convictions to insult and criticise any head of state, from George Bush and his holy war, to Jacob Zuma getting married in a loin cloth. Dignity? Dignity is something inherent to everyone, it comes from within. A painting can't take away your dignity, only you can act in an undignified way. Painting stripes on a donkey doesn't make it a zebra

  • Nico - 2012-05-20 12:41

    AG SHAME........WHO CARES !!!????

  • jaap.kotze - 2012-05-20 12:41

    No, Mr Zuma. You are not hurt or offended. You are tying to score political points and play on the feelings of South Africans. Black South African males are not in the least bit shy to display their private parts for any and all srangers to see. Drive along any rural road in the country and before long you will come along a man or men, urinating on the side of the road. All in plain view. It happens less frequent along the highways but it does hppen there as well!

      helen.hermandavids - 2012-05-20 13:59

      Well said

      koos.vandermerwe.92 - 2012-05-20 14:33

      It is part of the culture.

      Pesa - 2012-05-20 15:37

      That is just racist...don't white people urinate on the sides of the road...don't come here with your racist views if you don't like being here then move the hell out or go back to the past with the rest of the idiots that think like you

      Pesa - 2012-05-20 15:37

      That is just racist...don't white people urinate on the sides of the road...don't come here with your racist views if you don't like being here then move the hell out or go back to the past with the rest of the idiots that think like you

  • vuvu.booi - 2012-05-20 12:43

    Racism now and then shows its ugly head and those that defend it will always say 'old card' or come up with some bizarre excuses. Besides nobody in this country that can teach me what racism or democracy is.

  • George - 2012-05-20 12:45

    I guess the SA people have been deeply hurt by Zuma's antics. Instead of preserving and advancing our nonracist, democracy he perpetuates racial divisions, corruption and ill advised personal behavior. He is the one that took the oath of office to uphold the constitution, none asked him to do it, He should live up to it and not be surprised when people observe his shortcomings, however human.

  • Stewart Croucamp - 2012-05-20 12:48

    I have great respect for Mandela. Mbeki lost my respect with his stance on aids. It has never been a racial issue when respecting these men. Zuma on the other hand has done nothing to earn my respect.

      msira.gcukumana - 2012-05-20 13:51

      well said man!

  • Warmonger - 2012-05-20 12:49

    Oh, and another thing Jacob, the 'World' is not laughing WITH you... Nope, most assuredly Not!!

  • George - 2012-05-20 12:49

    To those making fun of the white genocide make sure you don't cry when a full scale civil war breaks out. The tipping point is fast approaching and America already has an AFCOM in place. Wonder why?

      sazi.radebe - 2012-05-20 20:52

      We must just remember what the population ratio is racially. Blakcs-30 million, whites-10million.you are outnumbered vastly I must say

  • Raoul Duke - 2012-05-20 12:49

    If you want to live in the public eye, you have to be able to take the public's criticism. The painting merely reflects what many think (in SA and abroad). President Zuma is not a chauvinist because the painting depicts him as one... The painting depicts him as the chavinist that he is.

  • NaughtyCulturist - 2012-05-20 12:50

    Successful attempt at a cheap publicity stint. That's all.

      NaughtyCulturist - 2012-05-20 12:52

      And congratulations Brett, you have now lowered yourself to the same standards that you so despise. I may not be Zuma's biggest fan, but I do still thing he, like every other person on this earth, has the right to dignity.

      Tamaranui - 2012-05-20 13:07

      Now the persecution cry will be questioned and ridiculed if the ""Genocide victims"" can disparage the President in this manner.

  • lothar.woehler.3 - 2012-05-20 12:53

    Whats the big problem? Zuma had his share of women? He even was accused of rape! The thing is, if you want to be a public figure you should keep your tools in your pants! Give yourself out for a toffee and you must be willing to get chewed...

      alansmartSnr - 2012-05-20 19:56

      How the hell can you defame anybody who is so inept, has so many corruption charges being investigated,(Prima faci)..So many wives, children, appointing and protecting crooks and thieves (fact)and screwing the whole country. Too many adverse things to mention - he is beyond being able to defame in my book.