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Zuma 'loser' complaint dismissed

2011-01-18 11:06

Johannesburg - A complaint against Justice Factor host Justice Malala calling President Jacob Zuma a "loser" has been dismissed by the Broadcasting Complaints Commission of SA.

"The naming of Mr Zuma as ‘loser’ is the prerogative of editorial opinion and there is no reason why the likely informed viewers of this programme could not disagree with the conclusion reached," the commission said in a statement on Tuesday.

Viewer C Ngcukana submitted Malala was driven by his own agenda in the e.tv discussion and analysis programme when Zuma was nominated "loser of the week" for lobbying that sanctions against Zimbabwe be lifted.

He also complained about the accuracy of Malala's comment that there was "no crisis" in Zimbabwe, a statement made by former president Thabo Mbeki.

The broadcaster responded that both remarks were based on fact.

The commission found the right to freedom of expression permits journalists in democratic party politics to rate politicians, even though not everyone will agree with the results.

It felt that comments amounted to an honest expression of opinion and were presented in such a manner, made on facts fairly indicated.
 

Comments
  • Melly30 - 2011-01-18 11:15

    Bla bla bla - more cr*p!!!

  • DeonL - 2011-01-18 11:23

    Comments like these by the Media will not be allowed after inplementation of the proposed media bill. Very view African countries have media freedom, we should stay the shining light of Africa, (media freedom speaking) in a Dark Africa.

      Rajty - 2011-01-18 11:32

      Media freedom is one thing...media foolishness is another...

      daboss247365 - 2011-01-18 12:02

      @rajTv, wel put

      GBES - 2011-01-18 13:04

      @rajty, rather media madness,than govt hiding the facts.Without the media ,there is no democracy.

      mpanzame - 2011-01-18 13:54

      Ja - Jacob Zumas ambition is one thing is foolishness is another - loser.

      Worldwise - 2011-01-18 15:17

      Rajty, what is the differenc between freedom and foolishness. We're waiting.

  • Tshifhiwa - 2011-01-18 11:26

    There is no news here.

      durbsviking - 2011-01-18 11:46

      And as they say in the classics - "no news is good news"

      My5cents - 2011-01-18 12:01

      Yes this is newsworthy. The BCC has upheld the right to freedom of expression by the media. Only a dimwit would not see the importance of this.

      Lauren - 2011-01-18 13:19

      My5cents, what does the British Broadcasting Corporation have to do with this?

      bonesagain - 2011-01-18 13:45

      Lauren!!! BCC, not BBC!

      Radrodent - 2011-01-18 15:01

      Tshiffie has no brain!

  • creesrobbie - 2011-01-18 11:28

    awe justice.

  • bill - 2011-01-18 11:32

    loser is still being nice to this babarian

      BlackSwan - 2011-01-18 12:59

      daboss - If you have to revert to obscenities to get your point across go live in a sewer

      Beverley - 2011-01-18 13:00

      @ daboss.... there are women reading this site - please keep your fowl mouth out of here?

      bill - 2011-01-18 13:02

      Your utterance reveals you to be an ill bred, vulgar fool.

      Lauren - 2011-01-18 13:25

      You only think it's foolish because you don't agree with it. Had it been a politician from another party, you would have no problem with it. I guarantee you that. So take your low life, uneducated little mind (judging from your choice vocabulary) and find something else to do. And for heaven's sake, don't display your common background by using more bad language. It just shows you up for the trash that you clearly are. Rather think about what I have said and if you are a true person of substance, you may just admit that I have a point. I'm not holding my breath though.

      DeonL - 2011-01-18 14:02

      Rather say he is not a good role model for the youth.

  • Allin - 2011-01-18 11:33

    Ngcukana is clearly clueless. Justice Malala would still be correct if he called Zuma "loser of the year" instead of "loser of the week"

      African'shtr - 2011-01-18 12:09

      hahahahaha, even worse when you say of all presidents of RSA

  • david.simpson.za - 2011-01-18 11:37

    Yawns.

  • IceBlaster - 2011-01-18 11:41

    "Malala was driven by his own agenda in the e.tv discussion", who's should he have been driven by in the discussion the ANC's. HAHAHA, Someone complained that someone else expresed free thinking lololol

      krish.reddy.104 - 2012-09-24 21:25

      I totally agree.

  • durbsviking - 2011-01-18 11:46

    So, we can now assume that he IS a Loser. Old story. Best keep your mouth shut and let people think you are stupid than open it and remove all doubt. All he needs now is his defamation suit against Zapiro to fail.

      krish.reddy.104 - 2012-09-24 21:26

      Justice Malala is a LOSER.

  • stephanjvv - 2011-01-18 11:49

    The truth isn't always pleasant.

  • Mike Webber - 2011-01-18 11:51

    These ANC cronies are trying to defend their bad names, but democratic South Africa and its people are having NONE of it. HAHAHA, gotta love freedom of speech.

  • richard - 2011-01-18 11:57

    I wonder if the President's of 1st world countries go to Court over such comments. In any third world country the respective presidents sees only the opportunity to gain more money in his pocket for such slanderous truth, afterall this is his last chance before the new Bill come in order for him to still make a few bucks. Do you see what I see, they have shot themselves in the foot with their new proposed law to shut the media up. Next will be to shut the public up by using the police most probably and we will be the next Zim. Mad Bob gave his struggle buddie some advice as well as our Prezy's buddy Jewellery Malingi. Dark days ahead people.

      Lauren - 2011-01-18 13:29

      Richard, the President did not go to court over this issue. A viewer did.

      Ephraim - 2011-01-18 14:01

      you have issues of you own or you cant read English?next time read before you comment.like 4play b4 u insert.

      christine - 2011-01-18 14:25

      never was a truer word said richard--dark days ahead

  • rasta7109 - 2011-01-18 12:07

    WOW, you commentators above just LUURVVV your Prez, don't you? Good thing the BCCSA showed their independence, considering the fact that the ANC deploys their cadres into all the Chapter 9 institutions as well. Well done BCCSA, let democracy and freedom of speech thrive, despite the ANC.

  • themantshepo - 2011-01-18 12:20

    if the malemas and zuma's do not make us rich then they will be the losers of the week, of the year, of the dacade, of the century

      watalife - 2011-01-18 13:00

      @themantshepo At last we gave you a chance to vote. Now look at what you have done with it, Not only did you f up your vote you now act all clever.

      Lauren - 2011-01-18 13:31

      Wow. There it is. Your comment embodies exactly what is wrong with the mindset of so many of our citizens. "If they do not make us rich". There is just so much wrong with that statement. You poor, poor, deluded man.

      DeonL - 2011-01-18 14:10

      You can not wait for government to make you rich, you have to work at it for 30 years or more and save some money on the way.

      themantshepo - 2011-01-18 14:17

      your white government made all your whites rich, so now our black government must make us blacks rich.... what is wrong with that??? even stevens china, we all want our chare of that rich cake ne???? and if our leaders do not deliver we will skop them out....(first in first out if you do not deliver ne ANC)

      Spade - 2011-01-18 14:22

      We need to thank Nelson Mandela and the leaders of the previous ANC for the mere fact that we can all comment on this forum. One of these days, it would seem, we may not have this medium for open discussion, thanks to Zuma, Malema and their cronies.

      Rev. H-Cubed - 2011-01-18 14:33

      The losses to corruption works out at R3000,00 per man, woman and child in this country. So, count the members of your immediate family, multiply by 3000, and then decide how much "skopping" you need to do, tshepo.

      Beverley - 2011-01-18 15:16

      @themantshepo - I really hope you get rich!

      lldoidge - 2011-01-18 17:50

      love your humour themantshepo!!!!! LOSER!

  • Faahim - 2011-01-18 12:20

    Excellent, freedom of speech rules!!! You cannot dismiss fact.

  • Don - 2011-01-18 12:21

    Wonder what will come of the case where someone spilt his drink on Zuma... What next....

      John - 2011-01-18 12:41

      It gave birth to a new cocktail! To be served at your bar very soon.

      BlackSwan - 2011-01-18 13:01

      Will be called the Showercurtain

  • Other Justin - 2011-01-18 12:23

    Hahahaha, good one. Loooooooser!!!

  • watalife - 2011-01-18 12:26

    He is not loser he is a big fat loser.

  • shmangle - 2011-01-18 12:29

    Le-hooo-Ze-Herrrrrr!!!!

  • whitespear@24.com - 2011-01-18 12:30

    He probably got his loser image from his goat herding days...lost a lot of goats.

  • John - 2011-01-18 12:42

    Looser ain't the correct word! I think of a couple of adjectives to add. And not in a nice way either.

  • Monde - 2011-01-18 12:45

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      OT - 2011-01-18 14:22

      ...and you have time for nonsense

      naromi@24.com - 2011-01-21 08:31

      boring -like thje content of the topic -HE IS A LOSER...what did he do right ? multiple wives (with controvesy) , using the justice dept to rubbish his charges through technilcities, have a child out of wedlock...and still doing wrong --- show that freedom of speech is going to be banned to suit his needs to be financially well off.

  • Ederik - 2011-01-18 12:46

    Wonder what the outcome would have been if the presenter was white......

      watalife - 2011-01-18 13:02

      He would have been called a racist and kicked of TV for life.

      Lionel - 2011-01-18 13:23

      He would be in the same boat as the white policeman who had the altercation with Winnie Mandela and her bodyguard driver on the M1 and the outcome looks rather bleak for him, eventhough he may be in the right and carrying out his duty.

      Lauren - 2011-01-18 13:35

      It wouldn't have gone to court, so no need for speculation.

  • Robin - 2011-01-18 12:55

    What a chop!

  • Dumsane - 2011-01-18 12:58

    Malala is an agent and it is well known that he's getting paid for all the nonsense he's uttering at e-tv. Good luck Justice!!!

      Rev. H-Cubed - 2011-01-18 14:00

      Yup, he gets paid for his job. Unlike us, who utter our nonsense here totally for free ;)

      Ephraim - 2011-01-18 17:05

      even during the apartheid era there were many of justices who grew up in their moms bosses backyards.some were neg laced and some remained.one of our own still believe that white is right and pure.shame on you justice,bloody agent.

      lldoidge - 2011-01-18 17:54

      Shame, Ephraim and then there was you sitting under a tree picking your nose. You couldn't have gone to school if your posts are anything to go by!

  • christine - 2011-01-18 13:03

    Please accept my apologies for raising my concern in this artical i am aware i am out of order BUT CAN ANYONE TELL WHY NEWS 24 IS CLOSING COMMENTS ON MORE AND MORE ARTICALS THEY PUBLISH They closed all comments on the 5 winneeeee articals Thet closed all comments on the 4 articals about the ANC converting the post office to banks[[as if we ALL dont have enough] i thought we were a democracy any our constitution garanteed the freedom of speech and expression i can think of a number of reasons why they would do this but dont want to speculate why IF THEY PUBLISH THIS COMMENT could a senior person __ie the ceo or the board plese publish in the main section of this site why they are doing this ie state their policy this is called transparancy is there someone that can give me the head knockers phone number or emailaddie-- talking to the juniors does not help I CHALLANGE NEW 24 TO ""SPEAK UP "" AND TELL US THE REASON FOR THEIR NON DEMOCRATIC PRACTICE__it dosent happen in first world countries

      Mike Webber - 2011-01-18 13:10

      Me thinks certain news agencies have gotten a few 'warnings' about which side they're on pending the information bill. Me thinks certain news agencies would rather start 'playing ball' now so that they're seen to be on the 'right side' when the bill is enforced.

      Lionel - 2011-01-18 13:42

      @ Mike Webber Can only agree as reader comments on the IOL News website are read beforehand, edited if need be and then only placed on the forum. Sometimes your comment does not even get placed on the forum. Any slight derogatory comment about the President, Government and ANC, is omitted all together.

      IceBlaster - 2011-01-18 13:46

      I noticed the same thing, i first thought it was because of the amount of comment but other articles with high amounts of comments are still open.

      christine - 2011-01-18 15:05

      thank u guys --mike u may have a good point

  • GBES - 2011-01-18 13:03

    Thank God for this decision.Journalists should be able to make statements which they honestly believe are made on facts.The JOURNALISTs provide us with news we might not even be aware of.The media in a democracy is VITAL and no govt has the right to limit their reporting.I`d rather have a journalist making a mistake than a govt hiding the facts.I SALUTE ALL JOURNALISTS.

  • Ben Fowler - 2011-01-18 13:06

    Well, it can't be a racist remark. They are both of the same skin color. So I think Justice is just calling what he is seeing. Blacks in this country are tired of getting worked over by their supposed leaders. The ones that are supposed to help them. Instead the leaders only help themselves at an unpredicted rate under the loser.

      lldoidge - 2011-01-18 17:56

      Oh! Ben they'll make it a racial issue. They'll blame one of the whities working at ETV even if he/she doesn't know Justice!

  • feppie - 2011-01-18 13:08

    Zuma forgot to shower before the judgement :)

      Ephraim - 2011-01-18 16:55

      u forgot to put a lotion on your damp skin before u commended.hence u smell even after u took a bath ten minutes ago.

      lldoidge - 2011-01-18 17:57

      Shew, Ephraim, you can even smell these posts? Must be all the picking of that nose you did instead of attending school!

      naromi@24.com - 2011-01-21 08:38

      ephraim is a racialist with no brains

  • Lionel - 2011-01-18 13:18

    To the complainant and Jacob Zuma loyalist C Ngcukana, you loser. Calling Zuma a loser is rather kind and a compliment. I can think of many more words that deescribe Zuma to a T, many slang words that refer to certain orifices and parts of the human anatomy. He riles me like no other person on this planet. Maybe that is his sole purpose as president, to get underneath the skin of white people, as he is sure good at that.

      naromi@24.com - 2011-01-21 08:40

      not only to whites and you be surprised as to how many zulus have the same feelings.

      krish.reddy.104 - 2012-09-24 21:45

      Zuma is the best President we ever had. I am happy he will rule for another 5 years.

  • Joshua - 2011-01-18 13:22

    Freedom of speech!!!!!!!!!!!! victory

  • Melly30 - 2011-01-18 13:22

    *LOSER*

  • Worldwise - 2011-01-18 15:16

    Amazing this was found by the BCC; - "The commission found the right to freedom of expression permits journalists in democratic party politics to rate politicians, even though not everyone will agree with the results. It felt that comments amounted to an honest expression of opinion and were presented in such a manner, made on facts fairly indicated." Yet News 24 sees fit to delete some comments. Wheres the freedom of speech and expression on these forums?

  • Beverley - 2011-01-18 15:23

    Selfverryking en faksies is ’n ANC-leefwyse Trevor Manuel het die naweek met verbasende eerlikheid oor die interne probleme van die regerende ANC gepraat. “ANC-takvergaderings kan nie byeenkomste word waar besluit word wie tenders kry nie,” het Manuel op ’n ANC-vergadering in Piketberg gesê. Dis die reguitste erkenning nog, en sommer op senior vlak, dat tenderpreneurskap deesdae standaardpraktyk in die ANC is. Die vraag is nou wat Manuel en ander wat sy kommer mag deel, gaan doen. Want die ANC is ’n party van baie praat, maar min doen, waar hulle mos glo as jy oor iets gepraat het, het jy iets gedoen. Hoe loflik dit ook al mag wees dat Manuel sy stem verhef het teen die opvatting dat ’n ANC-lidmaatskapkaart ’n paspoort is tot geldelike voordeel, gaan dit min uitwerking in praktyk hê. Daarvoor het die kultuur van toeëiening reeds te diep wortel geskiet. Die ANC is oorbevolk aan “leiers” en ampsdraers, hoog en laag, wat glo dis hul reg om ’n posisie te gebruik vir materiële voordeel. Manuel en sy bondgenote sal magtige vyande maak as hulle dié euwel begin uitroei. Van pres. Jacob Zuma se getrouste bondgenote is meesters in die kuns van politieke konneksies gebruik vir geldelike gewin. Hulle sal onaantasbaar wees en Manuel sal niks daaraan kan doen nie. Manuel het ook hoog opgegee oor verdeeldheid in die ANC. Hy het dit aangestip as ’n groter bedreiging vir sy party as die DA. Ook daarin het hy gelyk. Hy is egter naïef as hy dink verdeeldheid sal verdwyn as genoeg senior leiers dit net verdoem. Verdeeldheid gaan met die ANC wees totdat die party eendag verdwyn, al mag dié dag hóé ver in die verskiet lê. Die stryd teen apartheid, die gom wat die ANC-alliansievan 1912 tot 1994 aanmekaar gehou het, is weg. Sonder daardie gom het die faksies groter en meer geword. En ná Nelson Mandela kon die ANC nog nie weer ’n leier oplewer wat die party met ’n nuwe historiese missie kon besiel nie. - Beeld-hoofartikel Faksies, verdeeldheid en selfverryking is nou ’n ANC-leefwyse. Dit gaan ook die party se uiteindelik ondergang wees.

  • Beverley - 2011-01-18 15:24

    I came across this article on Beeld this mornng - LOL

      Sizwe - 2011-01-18 17:02

      Pity we cant engage due to the language barrier...

      emile.marais - 2011-01-18 18:39

      Siswe there are translation software available on this here net. Happy day to you.

      emile.marais - 2011-01-18 18:40

      Meant Sizwe - humble apologies! Language barriers and all...

  • d54 - 2011-01-18 19:30

    Pleaqse guys to understand how these guys minds tick over please google "dunning kruger effect". This is what is happening with the ANC and the alliance. If you have never heard of this effect Google it, you will not be disappointed.

  • Thouca - 2011-01-18 21:04

    well, the only good i can take out of this freedom of speech offered below is that i feel this does not represent the reasonable and positive society we in fact are.......interacting with small to large industry captains contiuously is not like anything offered here......so to the relatively few derogatory commentators below, good luck with making 2011 positive and succesful for yrselves....

  • Hans-Erik Iken - 2011-01-18 23:24

    So losing this battle makes him a double loser now? If you can't stand the heat get the hell out of the kitchen. Once you become a politician you should know you become a target for criticism, deal with it, accept it or get out of the game.

  • krish.reddy.104 - 2012-09-24 21:22

    Justice it is obvious that you prefer Malema over Zuma. Freedom of speech does not mean you can incite people. Our Government, not yours. have every right to stop people from inciting people against the state. In fact malema should be charged for high Treason. Also it is typical of you to avoid the millions of rands of hardworking taxpayers money that Malema stole . It is also clear that by protecting Malema you are helping your station to fuel the feud between Malema and Zuma in the hope of destabilising our country or better still you are being paid by Malema to say nice things about him or further you are afraid of Malema. I also find that all your other comentators also echo your sentiments in protecting Malema. All this is a receipe for a civil war in our country. This will be irreversable. Would you like this. Please report the truth not follow like sheep and condemn Zuma. He is doing the best he could to run the country compared to rogue Malema. Zuma cannot singlehandedly change the country overnight. Finally we have more than enough intellegent people in our Country to ignore or see the truth behind your one sided condemnation of Zuma. In fact it will halp Zuma to secure a further five year term as President of our country. Justice Malala I suggest you change your name to Bias Malala

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