Zuma must clarify land reform

2011-07-03 14:46

Johannesburg - President Jacob Zuma should urgently clarify the government's position on land expropriation, the DA said on Sunday.

"It is not sufficient for President Jacob Zuma to simply state that land grabs are not ANC policy," Democratic Alliance spokesperson Athol Trollip said in a statement.

He said Zuma should come forward as a matter of urgency and denounce the radical policies espoused by ANC Youth League president Julius Malema.

Zuma should also clarify the steps his administration would take to address the failure of its land reform and rural development policies.

Trollip said the DA was reacting to reports of the illegal occupation of a farm between Qwaqwa and Harrismith, in the Free State, last week.

Malema gave them permission

He said the farm was occupied by a group which alleged that Malema had given it permission to claim the land for itself.

At an ANCYL conference in Johannesburg last month, Malema warned ANC leaders that they must either follow ANCYL policies - which include land grabs - or face removal from office.

Malema has, in the past, accused whites of stealing land.

Trollip said that when the owners of the farm phoned the police for help they were told to apply for an eviction order.

He said a member of the group now occupying the farm had owned the land, but that it was sold after he failed to repay a loan from the Land Bank.

Land reform

"The DA regards it as imperative that an effective land reform programme is implemented in our country."

However, the policies should be based on South African law and constitutional provisions that govern property ownership, said Trollip.

"Should the willing buyer, willing seller model be abandoned, the impact on food security and our economy as a whole would be devastating."

Trollip said he would write to Zuma and Land Reform and Rural Development Minister Gugile Nkwinti to ascertain when the Land Reform Green Paper would be released.

He would also call on Zuma to publicly put an end to the "dangerous speculation" regarding land reform.

  • EDI2000 - 2011-07-03 14:55

    Is this the begining of the end.......?

      USSA - 2011-07-03 15:32

      No, but it is the beginning of something that once it goes into overdrive, will put citizens at war with each other. This is a real-time threat to SA's future.

      TheUgly - 2011-07-03 15:32

      At least for the ANC. Not to worry.

      Risen Ape - 2011-07-03 16:32

      To those of you who said South Africa would follow the same fate as so many other African countries. You were bang on the money and I was wrong.

      Frankly_Every1 - 2011-07-03 18:53

      To all the die hards who say “I am staying, this is my land” I have this to say: These people don’t want land, they want war. They don’t want equality, they want war! When they have finished exterminating the whites they will turn onto each other because that is all they know how to do ... WAR!!! If a piece of land is so important to you that you stay at the expense of having your family raped, tortured and murdered in the cruellest of ways, then you are wasting your life. By staying you choose to let them destroy your life with their drama’s and lust for war. By staying you choose to fund them further in their quest, and in the end you fund your own genocide and that of your fellow people. If all the whites and decent blacks left, they would have nothing left to fund themselves. Just a thought.

      R.Suppards - 2011-07-03 22:50

      ZUMA! YOU are SUPPOSED to be the President of the Republic of South Africa, When are you going to ACT like a President? This beautiful land is falling apart because of your LACK OF LEADERSHIP!! Tour lack of reaction to revolutionary comments by Malema et al, regarding nationalisation and land grabs, shows the thinking people of this land that to stay in power you are sympathetic to the views of SYPHILLITIC BOB MUGABE. PLEASE GIVE US A STATEMENT AS TO WHERE YOUR SYMPATHIES LIE. Remember it is only through having a viable tax base can you and your mates sustain your lifestyles.

      franssmith100 - 2011-07-03 23:24

      @fRANKLY - you are 100% correct. i realised that (and i have quite a few properties in sa), sold my business, packed up my family and left. you can make a decent safe living anywhere in another country.

      Spyker May - 2011-07-04 00:27

      Not yet, but it is becoming clearer - it will be at the ANC's 2012 conference. While there may be several options applicable to a longer time-scale; with such a prospect, we have no option other but to leave (very fast that is) OR the Western Cape must start to prepare for a Unilateral Declaration of Independence. This must be done under the auspices of the United Nations and as such will be perfectly legal. The Western Cape Government must present its case to the UN and the ICC, based (inter alia) on the fact that the ANC has bridged virtually every agreement made under CODESA. The ANC will likely respond militarily. The WC will (naturally) experience a large influx of refugees from other (previous SAcan provinces) and equally a large exodus of ANC apologists. The consequence will be a quick and decisive military victory over the ANC. The ANC will be emphatically destroyed and SA will for the first time in its history, be at the brink of true democracy. The real war for SA's 'true democracy' has yet to be fought. Nelson Mandela and F W de Klerk delivered merely an introduction to a process that is far from complete. The ANC is as much a product of Apartheid as the NP was. This is the reason why the ANC is simply continuing with its own brand of Apartheid. Unless you destroy the ANC - you will never destroy Apartheid and there will never be a truly democratic SA. If you want a future for your children, you either have to leave SA today or you must prepare for war...

      PB - 2011-07-04 08:56

      @R Suppards - fully agree with you. If there is an actual job description going with the post, I am sure Zuma's main task would be stated as running our country first. If he has too much time on his hands, then he could go and play Mr Big in other countries. There are so many things wrong here that Zuma should consentrate on fixing instead of licking Gadaffi's a$$ (and play peacemaker in the rest of the world). Priorities dude...

      Darwinian - 2011-07-04 08:57

      @Frankly_Every1 So true and well said. Me and my wife are working very hard to get out of this place, like you said, ..."at the expense of having your family raped, tortured and murdered in the cruellest of ways, then you are wasting your life."

      Cacophony82 - 2011-07-04 09:45

      @Frankly - Then to war we will go, because I refuse to be scared by a bunch of uneducated twats who think the world owes them everything. Not standing up for what is right is siding with those that are wrong. Sometimes we have to fight for our right to be here and be heard, so run away if you want. I'll stay and if I die, then at least I stood up for what is right and good. What would be the point of living if you couldn't do that?

      Frankly_Every1 - 2011-07-04 09:48

      There are many pages on facebook about either leaving South Africa or South Africans in various cities all over the world. There is a wealth of information there.

      Frankly_Every1 - 2011-07-04 10:48

      @Cacophony82. Perhaps being able to kick back and relax on the beach (Preferably with some good music on the earplugs) without having to have a panic button handy? Or being able to invest in your future by buying land and being legally entitled to own it and retire safely with? Perhaps seeing your children grow up with independence, being able to walk or bicycle to school and to friends houses without getting bi-jacked or run over by a taxi? Perhaps just knowing that if someone does come into your home and murder you, they will be brought to book and not let free with a medal for the revolootion? There are oceans and mountains and lakes and cultures to be enjoyed all over the world. Its simple its business. You wouldn't pay top dollar for incompetent service for something tangible, so why do you do it in the place you call home? It has now become a comparable cost to live in a first world country without all the fear and drama so go figure. Not perfect but there are decent health systems, free schooling and protection for ALL citizens from criminals. I didn't run, I left by choice. As much as you say "run" I could say keep your head in the sand there, this war/negotiation should have been fought/done when there was still something to fight and negotiate with. Your tax goes into the corrupt government that is not only a danger to you but to others as well. Would it not be better for your families well being if you were around in 10 years from now, rather than brave and dead?

      Cacophony82 - 2011-07-04 11:21

      @Frank - Those are valid reasons to leave and it is your choice to do so if you want. I can see the appeal of having a more care-free life. I have also lived that life while overseas, however as a youth in South Africa, I feel it is my duty to try to correct the mistakes of the generations before me. I feel its my duty as a South African to not only dream about this type of life for all South Africans, but to actually try and make that dream a reality even if that means laying down my life standing up for what I believe in. I would much rather have it said about me that I tried my very best to make this place great even if I fail than to live a life that is more comfortable. I'm not judging you for leaving and I apologize for implying as much, but please don't judge me for staying. I don't have my head in the sand because I fully realize the reality of what we are facing here and yet I choose to face that reality head on not just for myself or my family, but for South Africa, which is my home. I tried making a home somewhere else and for me it didn't work, because Africa is in my veins and good or bad I will stand by her and that is my choice. It might not be the right choice according to you as much as you choosing to take your skills that we need here and applying them somewhere else, is not the right choice for me so lets just live and let live. Its not all doom and gloom here and I take exception to people implying that it is.

      Frankly_Every1 - 2011-07-04 12:05

      No offense taken Cacophony. Be safe and good luck. It would be nice to see South Africa turn around, but I doubt it will happen.

      Eugene - 2011-07-04 15:06

      I am amused about the DA asking that kind of questions according to recent statements made by them they are in favor of socalled land reform themselves! Just google 'DA and ANC at one on land reform' or read how the DA justifies this by making false claims '1913 Land Act forced millions off the land'.

      Cacophony82 - 2011-07-04 15:43

      @Frankly - Here's to hoping. I'm an optimist, so I think it can and eventually will turn around for everybody, because there are just as many people here who are working for it as there are that are working against it, so if we work hard enough at educating our people and trying to make a difference in one person's life every day then yes, I think it will. It will obviously take a long time, because of the massive generation gap that occurred as a result of Apartheid, as well as the people eventually rising up against the tide of greed, corruption and nepotism that is apparent in our current government, but it is fully possible. Just look at what has been happening in Northern Africa and the Middle East. I think most people are just so tired of hearing about how those in power abuse that power that they forget who put the powerful up on their pedestal. Maybe its time we remind them?

      Fossil Rob - 2011-07-04 15:46

      This is the end of the beginning. We need to do the whole Zim business model still to get all the right wing racist nationalist ANC PF cronies rich and all the non-cronies poor and in poverty.

      Looking@SA - 2011-07-05 13:50

      @spyker and frankly. I sincerely hope that both of your are wrong. Frankly, your assessment, if true, would leave a disaster where once a beautiful country existed. The same with your scenario spyker. If the Western Cape declared independence you would have war and what a disaster that would be. Even more what about the rest of SA? If the secession were successful and there was this great influx of people to Western Cape then what would happen to the rest of the country? It would end up like Zimbabwe. Then all those who found out that the ANC's plans were a disaster would be the second wave of refugees into the Western Cape. Oh, and were are the majority of farms (not including wine farms) outside the western cape. Then you have the problem of the tourist dollar. It's a major source of income to the western cape. Do you really think that foreigners are going to flock to the Western Cape in the middle of a civil war? No, I truly hope that neither of your prophecies come true. As I've posted on this site before. I have personal reasons why I hope this doesn't transpire. My wife is South African and we own property in Pretoria, or sell it and move to Somerset West. Had enough of winters here in the Washington area. They last too long and too much snow. You think 6c is cold try -12c with highs of -2c. No, I pray that SA works this out so that one day I can stay and enjoy the beauty that is SA. Don't wait for the UN they respond after the disaster is complete.

      frans.visserdsb - 2011-07-05 15:38

      I think the nationalisation of farms have already happened... In 1994, about 85 000 farms were in private ownership.... currently only about 14 000... and the government currently has 65 000 landparcels classified as farms and agricultural holdings...

      Frankly_Every1 - 2011-07-06 19:03

      Looking@SA - Unfortunately the best prediction of the future is to look at the past. Our family have lost a total of 7 farms in Zimbabwe. None of them were stolen they were all bought and paid for and probably hired a collective 6000 people who were given accomodation, food, church and schools. These people were thrown off too and are now either unemployed and homeless with no future or dead. We left SA over a year ago, because we could see the signs of a "regime" setting in. Any government that disbands organizations that question them or keep them in check is a worry. If you want a real picture of things in SA look up The snow may not seem so bad after reading that :)

  • Taurusaurus - 2011-07-03 14:56

    "Trespassers will be shot." (or prosecuted) - Private property is private property. Defend your land which you bought from the bank. It is your right to safeguard yourself, family, and possessions!

      chris van rensburg - 2011-07-03 15:18

      And defend the property of the bank!!The banks should also express their view on the issue.What do you think????

      USSA - 2011-07-03 15:32

      Chris....very true. Great comment.

      freedom - 2011-07-03 15:53

      @Chris true the banks need to express their views, however many properties could be paid for or very little owing on the property so the banks have made their portion over and over, so manymay want to protect their own propertynot the banks'

      msendi - 2011-07-03 16:09

      This problem must be solved peacefully. Trenspassers are also armed. We must force the government to protect people, including the farmers… If farmers take law to their own hands the will be a disaster…

  • Johnny - 2011-07-03 15:11

    Neither Qwaqwa nor Harrismith is in the Eastern Cape.

      EDI2000 - 2011-07-03 15:13

      ROTFLMAO more like Eastern Free State.... eish Malema says every things FREE in this State!!!

      Mad Dog - 2011-07-04 10:47


  • freedom - 2011-07-03 15:13

    The beginning of the end? well it can be the beginning of a new era. Its time that the whites now start uniting and defend our rights. its time that the DA also become a lot more aggresive in the political arena! DA we voted for you guys we need to see you being a lot more in the peoples faces, sure there is a lot of work done behind the scenes, but with the next election we need to gain a lot more ground.

      Mad Dog - 2011-07-03 17:23

      Yes. The start of the next election campaign is NOW! Target the traditional anc supporters, get them to see the truth about the anc and it's calamitous policies or lack of policies. Vote DA! All supporters of those small parties, please vote DA in future, YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU!

      apie - 2011-07-04 07:24

      Mad Dog but the DA also supports the stealing of land from whites.

      bent5000 - 2011-07-04 11:22

      @apie?? Are you pissed or smoking pips or something?

      Mad Dog - 2011-07-04 11:25

      @apie - You write utter rubbish! Read the DA's policies at this address below, it is clear that the DA does not steal anything from anybody. The government has thousands of hectares of unused land that is suitable for farming. The anc do not make it available to wannabe farmers as they are stupid.

      Eugene - 2011-07-04 14:59

      Concerning "land reform" the DA does only differ from the ANC in terms of windowdressing.

  • Larro - 2011-07-03 15:16

    here we go.....

  • BigMoose - 2011-07-03 15:17

    One foot on my property...

      genet - 2011-07-03 17:56

      Mine too ....

      Lee - 2011-07-03 22:38

      Dat brother go die of aids already. I moved S.A. To start a funeral business. Its a booming I tell ya. More land is needed for the daily death toll of aids. Come in as BEE idiot if you want a cut.

      Crazy Ivan - 2011-07-04 00:00

      @Datbrotherfromthestates Sh*t up idiot! As a wise japanese proverb says: Dont wake a sleeping dragon. Us whites may seem very tolerant but force us into a corner and we'll hit back more violently than you can imagine. We're very very good at war(which is why we avoid it) and have fought more battles than any other civilization, so were dam good at it! Keep talking, we wont use AK's no, chemical weapons and basic chlorine gas mines etc. are easier...nothing for trespassers to shoot at and hey its 'your' own fault for coming onto my property. Like to see how well you talk when your coughing up ur insides, are going blind and ur chest feels like its on fire...horrible stuff, trust me! But then you should already know that cause your from the states right?? Oh I forgot your a troll.

  • BOFFINBOB - 2011-07-03 15:17

    It does appear that the youth league & that " eternal youth " Malema are running the country. Let the " revelooting " begin !

  • Slapper - 2011-07-03 15:26

    He wont do this. Its an ANC case of divide and conquer (see destroy). The man does not have the Balls to take a stand on anything.

      msendi - 2011-07-03 19:14

      The man you claim "does not have balls", have about four wives and still counting…

      Psychotron - 2011-07-03 19:20

      @msendi - What does that have to do with illegal land claims?

      ZeDon - 2011-07-04 07:39

      @msendi: Is that why his wife slept with the policeman who was protecting her? ROFL!

      Lab-Rat - 2011-07-04 10:35

      msendi - it actually requires a stronger more intelligent man to breed responsibility not like zum zum who can't keep it in his pants.

      Mad Dog - 2011-07-04 11:32

      Zuma is a paper tiger, has teeth but cannot bite! As for balls! Ha! Ha!

      Mad Dog - 2011-07-04 11:34

      Responsible people have as many children as they can afford to bring up and educate. Zuma does not maintain his kids or wives, the tax-payer does! The common man is being ripped off by the anc!

  • crackerr - 2011-07-03 15:27

    Those living in the townships has better jump and go claim their land as well. If you don't you will lose out. Why? Because there are only so many farms and so much land available. As for the police, check them now storming in to stake their claims. How many members? 200,000 or something. About 50,000 farms available. From the largest to the smallest. The figure is actually smaller. But let's stick to 50,000. Easier to calculate. Each member will get about one quarter of a farm. But hurry neh! Only as long as stocks last.

      Mad Dog - 2011-07-04 11:36

      Lots of those in townships and squatter camps have land back in the Transkei or other "tribal" lands. Think about that!

      MalcolmO - 2011-07-04 15:53

      I wonder if anyone in government has thought about popping down to their local corner cafe and buying a "Farmers Weekly" or "Landbouweekblad" there are hundreds of farms for sale at very reasonable prices. That don't have to force anybody off a working business, and putting all of the employees out of a job as well.

  • tokoloshe - 2011-07-03 15:29

    Shoot to kill the savage trespassers!

      Black Mouth - 2011-07-03 16:34

      they might be armed as well, should they also shoot to kill ?

      freedom - 2011-07-03 18:16

      @black mouth they do anyhow, as well as rape, plunder and humiliate like typical barbarians so whats new?

      Psychotron - 2011-07-03 19:21

      @Black mouth - they shouldn't be there in the first place. Why should they kill the white farmer? Are you so special that the world will just accept these atrocities?

      bent5000 - 2011-07-04 11:27

      Black Mouth, Black idiot

  • mark - 2011-07-03 15:29

    Next you'll hear Trollip is a marked man....

  • TheUgly - 2011-07-03 15:31

    Malema is a psychopath and a very dangerous man. The ANC is already doing as they please with our taxpayers money to the detriment of the very people who entrusted them with services ans support. If they take one piece of land unfairly then civil war will be inevitable. Enough is enough.

  • THE.SRG - 2011-07-03 15:35

    gotta wake doesn't take the anc to actively take part in land grabs,just needs one to shout it out and the masses will take it into their own hands...then the anc can still say its not their policy.

  • 50something - 2011-07-03 15:45

    Zuma is a spineless excuse for a leader. He can't fix anything at home so he tries to be a "hero" in the international, no sorry, the African arena.

      Gundaan - 2011-07-03 16:01

      Yes , indeed , wtf is he doing now sucking up to the russians over Libya ...why does he not sort this trash heap of a place up first ....

  • PieterWolf - 2011-07-03 16:00

    I will start an underground squatter camp!!!!!!!!

      Black Mouth - 2011-07-03 16:37

      you really look like a squatter camp,,,

      PieterWolf - 2011-07-03 17:30

      @ Swart bek jy hoort in daardie skwatta camp!

      Psychotron - 2011-07-03 19:21

      @S#it mouth - your logic is very second grade like isn't it?

  • Black Mouth - 2011-07-03 16:54

    Dumelang its about time we stand and accumulate, without fear or favour, some things might need costitutional procedures but as for others its very important that we gloss our lips. Amandla

      freedom - 2011-07-03 17:14

      If you guys carry on with your kak, you will need to start glossing something else, amandla se gat!!!!

      shatzi - 2011-07-03 17:25

      You will need about five litres of lip gloss for those two bar lips

      PieterWolf - 2011-07-03 17:31

      Try goodyear tyre black.

      Psychotron - 2011-07-03 19:23

      Do you gloss each others lips after a long day at illegal land grabs?

      tsotsi420 - 2011-07-03 19:42

      and this is why africa is the toilet of the world. You cannot create, just 'accumulate'. And when all is taken and broken, you need the west to feed you. You and your ilk should not be in charge of countries like South Africa. In fact you would never have had the opportunity had not European settlers built and developed said countries. A cruel twist of unfettered breeding and the idea that democracy works in a system where the majority did not and could not contribute to the development of the system has landed us where we are now.

      franssmith100 - 2011-07-03 23:33

      @Black Mouth..., you are just that - "another black mouth" that will need feeding after you and your buddies have f!#$%^ up sa? eish!

  • Mad Dog - 2011-07-03 17:18

    Zuma is an empty space. A black hole has more substance! He should be removed from office by the DA after the next elections. Vote DA. Very important for the whole country and all citizens. VOTE DA!

      msendi - 2011-07-03 19:16

      Watch this space…

  • Mad Dog - 2011-07-03 17:27

    The start of the next election campaign is NOW! Target the traditional anc supporters, get them to see the truth about the anc and it's calamitous policies or lack of policies. It takes two years to change people's minds. Putting posters up on lamp-posts a few weeks before the elections is a waste of time and money. Put posters up now to plant the seeds of change in anc minds. Vote DA! All supporters of those small parties, please vote DA in future, YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU!

      msendi - 2011-07-03 19:09

      The first thing is to deal with white racists within DA, they are the one who who undermines good work of Helen Zille. To stop ANC, votes from all races are needed. I am not a racist, I am just making my comment…

      Psychotron - 2011-07-03 19:24

      @msendi - so will you support black racists undermining the ANC? The ANC does not even care about you but you vote them in all the time.

      nvl - 2011-07-03 21:31

      @msendi- the DA is just like your ANC ffs, doesn't matter who you vote for, YOU WILL GET YOUR STUFF because IT IS EXPECTED FROM US!! ...geez just get it in your head once and for all. ANC = COCA-COLA DA. = COCA-COLA light (methinks 1 calorie is just not evil enough for you hmm?)

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  • Babba x - 2011-07-03 19:18

    Malema sings "kill the boer", and they do. Malema says "grab the land illegally", and they do. I say let's sing "kill the land grabbers" and we will!!ANC, you are scratching where it doesn't itch and you will come second. History will repeat itself

      Psychotron - 2011-07-03 19:25

      Hulle krap in 'n leeu se hol met 'n kort stokkie.

  • Tilo von Brandis - 2011-07-03 19:24

    Zuma is a charismatic person with no intelligence. Now that solutions and directions are needed, he has not idea and opinion because he can can come up with anything and all his advisor are just to confusing. Its always easy to spurt to obvious but to actually put ideas into action and understanding the complexity of the situation is a whole different ballgame. Just like magnetism, you know it exists but you cant feel it; same with intelligence, if you don't have it, you don't have it, no matter how much you want it.

  • FalseGods - 2011-07-03 19:26

    Blood for the blood God.

  • T de J - 2011-07-03 20:09

    sorry to the family that is going through this good luck. to everybody else that has a big mounth think if it was your land that was worked by and toiled with bear hands and today is profitable now these heveans pop out of the ground and start invading your privacy stealing your goods making threats you go to the pupets in uniform and the look at you with a smurk on thier faces and do go to your neighburgs and they do nothing just talk , people remember that what ever we do the goverment(anc) will change the laws to make us crimminals . people with the leaders we have be prepared for a testing time until we have lost our wealth through rates,electricity and all other increases and maybe 3% of the population will have a massed extreme wealth then the people will pick up the wooden spoons and charge against the goverment. food for thought you treat the sickness when you first notice it not when it is full blown.

  • Hamilton Ngwenya - 2011-07-03 20:35

    An eye 4 an eye makes the world blind. We cannot allow a situation where we reverse Apartheid with illegitimate land grads to address the past misdeeds. What happened to negotiated settlements round-the-table compromise? SA had taken giant strides towards unity and peace. The president should really come out in the open and clarify his position on critical issues like N'lisation and farm killings as well as SA's foreign policy. He simply can't afford to beat about the bush, leaving taxpayers and investors on the lurch. SA future is uncertain given the latest YL rants and ravings.

  • Thabo selepe - 2011-07-04 02:05

    Wow, sad to see how divided we are as a nation. As a boy growing up in this constitutional era, I hail people like Nelson n Fw for their efforts in building this nation, Yes, a lot is still to be done.For democarcy to prevail, it starts with us as people. I reject the land grab policy of the youth league for history tells us about what happened to Zim and it against the law. Our constitution is hailed as one of the best in the world and we should at all cost refrain from changing anything in that document. Malema is a politician and want to capitalise on this policy of his and I agree that the consiquence will be will be severe should he continue to push for such reform. I rejct the "land the grab policy". We have a responsibility as the youth to build on this constoitutional foundation we have and neither DA nor ANC or any political party that was formed before 1994 or those brake away parties hold any solution to our problems. We need something new, fresh to take SA forth. But what hurts most is to read about what most you people are saying, it is clear that race will be a factor in our country and such statements aren't building SA. Let's solve a problem if any rather than turn against one another. I thought most of your saw enough blood shed before democracy. It pains to hear this racial remarks. Runing away won't help, maybe save you but this is home to everyone. Let's find a new solution to all the hate and disapponiments.50yrs before Democracy we still can No BLOOD.

      BMFree - 2011-07-04 07:03

      So good to read your comment. Build togerther or all will suffer.

      bent5000 - 2011-07-04 11:39

      @Thabo "I hail people like Nelson" Bru, the fact that Nelson is sitting choep still while people are getting brutally murdered on farms, he aligns himself with the SCUM that are telling the people to do these very acts we are reading about right here everyday. I have not one ounce of respect left for Nelson brother... I dont care how old he is, he needs to open his mouth or these oaks are going to completely piss this country away in no time at all.

  • Sipho - 2011-07-04 07:12

    White people must accept that many black people have a lot of pent up rage at how they were sidelined for so many years and were forced to stand by and watch helplessly as their land was taken from them with absolutely no compensation offered and were forced into subservience bordering on slavery. If that had happened to whites would they have been as gracious in defeat or would they have had the balls to stand up and fight?

      ZeDon - 2011-07-04 07:47

      It is busy happening at the moment, so what's your point?

  • MrTruth - 2011-07-04 07:49

    R.I.P.South Africa - will the last person out please turn the lights off. Well done Malema and Zuma you are both top of the class for a job well done "Stuffing up a great country" I could type a million words on the crime and corruption of SA, we already know it is the worst in the whole world and that is official. The answer to crime from the ANC is to Rica cell phone and have criminals as police officers, fight cell phone crime and the murder, rape and barbaric crime will take care of its self – The murderers, rapists and criminals are still laughing. God help SA in the hands of the worst criminals the ANC & ANCYL

  • De la Rey - 2011-07-04 08:11

    The time for war has come !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • De la Rey - 2011-07-04 08:32

    The time for war has come !!!!!!!!!!!!! I believe it is best to take out the leaders first, and when they are replaced, take out the new leaders until no-one wants to lead.......

      Sipho - 2011-07-04 08:40

      What are you smoking general?

      bent5000 - 2011-07-04 11:40

      Fully agree De la Rey.

      nvl - 2011-07-04 12:06

      Whaa...And you gonna lead us???... War is not a game of paintball dude.

  • adolph.marema - 2011-07-04 09:58

    Where i come from in Limpopo, My family were forced to move out in less than a day, today we need our land back they want to sell it to us but they took it from for free, now they telling us that they have already developed it and they need to be reimbursed, it is ridicoulus. We need out land for back.

      Felix - 2011-07-04 10:35

      Do you have title deeds for said land? What will you do with the land?

      bent5000 - 2011-07-04 11:41

      shame bru... welcome to SA

      Petro Taljaard - 2014-05-24 09:56

      Can you please submit documents to proof all this?

  • Other Justin - 2011-07-04 10:07

    Where is this farm exactly? The criminals need to be forcibly removed. Please News24, post an address.

  • tut - 2011-07-04 11:21

    Tresspassers should be shot...

  • Gibbonater - 2011-07-04 12:30

    If my farm is bonded to the bank and it is taken away, who them is liable for the repayments and/or outstanding balance to the bank? If I had just borrowed money for a huge capital expendityure on my land and I am then prevented from farming to pay it back, who is liable. What about the value of pensions, shares, savings etc held by the mining houses. What will happen to their value if the government nationalises these institutions. What will we see their value become on the JSC? I believe all right minded people should move their money offshore A.S.A.P.

  • VAMP - 2011-07-04 13:26

    i would just shoot any one who thinks they can chase me off my land...period! Claim it as self defence as your life is in danger.

  • Zebelon - 2011-07-04 22:38

    Zuma, leave Russia, England, USA, Japan, India, Brazil, Lybia, Congo etc, and come home where you belong. Your business starts at your own home which is starting to burn.

      Lab-Rat - 2011-07-05 14:24

      Maybe he's looking for a place of exile for when the rest of the world wakes up and sees him for who he really is.

  • Zebelon - 2011-07-04 22:48

    For a president to spend all his years in office gallivanting around the world with a large entourage of men and women,gathering no moss at great expence, while fires are being set up at home, is a recipe for disaster.

  • Hangmann - 2011-07-05 13:45

    And the MP's wonder, with total disbelief, why people take the law into their own hands. If the cop's won't help I guess we'll have to act (lawfully or otherwise).

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