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Zuma painting hearing to be broadcast

2012-05-22 12:06

Johannesburg - A full bench of the South Gauteng High Court in Johannesburg will on Thursday hear the ANC's application to have a painting depicting ANC president Jacob Zuma with his genitals exposed taken down.

Judge Kathree Setiloane also granted permission for e.tv and eSat to broadcast the court proceedings live.

"This is a matter of great national importance," Setiloane said.

The date was set after a quick hearing in the packed court. It was over in 15 minutes, with the judge moving on to other matters.

During the application, the judge was told that Zuma's children would also be joining the case to have the painting The Spear removed from the Goodman Gallery. It was not immediately clear which of Zuma's children were joining the case.

Artist Brett Murray, who created the painting, had also applied to be part of proceedings. The postponement allowed for all parties to file further papers to the court.

Comments
  • Sechaba30 - 2012-05-22 12:11

    I do not think its wise to run a business in Joburg CBD. It was stone throwing last week , now its paint fighting.

      Tuco - 2012-05-22 12:17

      Too late. the painting has been defaced by Zumanites.

      Arthur - 2012-05-22 12:21

      I reckon every artist in SA should paint Zuma naked. Maybe also international artists. Do a mass Zuma tottie paint off. I'd love to see them try close down "the Twitta" and "the fessbook" and sue everyone or deface all the paintings.

      Arthur - 2012-05-22 12:21

      Starting mine tonight. Who's with me.

      Tuco - 2012-05-22 12:33

      @Hugh_Influence sorry dude you on your own. got 999 999 better things to do than draw JZ's willy

      gordon.turner.37 - 2012-05-22 12:34

      Sadly you are right. I will be tuning into watch the gormless minister take a lesson in Constitutional Law and freedom of expression. When the lawyers have to explain that 14 illegitimate children and 6 marriages is no reason to depict the great statesmen as someone who cannot keep his prick in his pants. And we wonder why the Justice Dept and the quality of law being written in parliament is so weak that it gets chewed up and spat out on a weekly basis.

      Bryan - 2012-05-22 12:35

      Zuma's children will be at the hearing..., I have 2 questions:- 1. Will there be enough space for all of them? 2. Who is paying for the lunch? Eish............

      Arthur - 2012-05-22 12:39

      Hahaha I hear you Tuco.

      Gichumz - 2012-05-22 12:39

      https://www.facebook.com/BrettMurrayForSAPresident

      Martin - 2012-05-22 12:58

      i just did a zuma with his head closely resembling a ballbag, i will make it my fb pic at some point when i get near a scanner

      Costa - 2012-05-22 13:53

      @Hugh Message me your pics and we will put them in an online archive. http://offensivepicsofzuma.tumblr.com/

  • Surfing - 2012-05-22 12:11

    The face is off, what now?

      Sharon - 2012-05-22 12:28

      The message of the painting has changed somewhat since this morning. Initially in its original state it depicted an impotent president (as representative of government) Now in its altered state it depicts an impotent president (as representative of government) in the centre of a major cover-up. It is progressively becoming more and more a true reflection of the state of our government.

      Gichumz - 2012-05-22 12:39

      https://www.facebook.com/BrettMurrayForSAPresident

      IcemanGP - 2012-05-22 13:20

      Just saw it on the news now, Those two must be gay lovers.

  • gareth.jones.7771 - 2012-05-22 12:11

    Is there still a point?

      Peter - 2012-05-22 12:15

      Yep, just in case he decides to paint another cadre....

      Peter - 2012-05-22 12:30

      @Peter - Again you show your stupidity and lack of comprehension, the case isn't against the artist its against the gallery for displaying it. Please be stupid else where

      Gichumz - 2012-05-22 12:39

      https://www.facebook.com/BrettMurrayForSAPresident

  • nishaatf - 2012-05-22 12:13

    LMBIMPI @ This is a matter of great national importance," Setiloane said.

      Martin - 2012-05-22 13:03

      shows who has been bribed right off the bat, nothing new here though, just another day in communist sa, hahah that rhymes

      Michael - 2012-05-22 14:41

      The willies are attacking

  • ShottaZee - 2012-05-22 12:14

    Hehehe there's no evidence now.

  • Shirley - 2012-05-22 12:15

    Oh for Petes sake!!!! What importance????? There are far more serious matters of "national importance" to be addressed!!! Stop being a vain,egotystical,self loving drama queen!!! Anc needs to get their priorities right and stop wasting money,time and energy on an ego trip!!! Are all the illegitimate kids going to give their 5c worth too?? Come on

  • jackal666.daniel - 2012-05-22 12:15

    ANC is in for a huge public humiliation LOL @ANC!!!

      Blackyoungandangry - 2012-05-23 02:23

      Thats what you said when we came into power when will you learn AMANLA AWETHU! the power is ours! and will forever be so!

  • Grace - 2012-05-22 12:18

    Too late hahaha.... Oh and is crime and corruption not of GREATER national importance? Shall we just paint ANC colours over those statistics too?

  • Barry - 2012-05-22 12:20

    No need to take it down, just add the comment - "This is what the ANC does with freedom of expression when they don't agree - GOD BLESS SOUTH AFRICA."

      Barry - 2012-05-22 12:21

      sorry - 1 expression...

      Blackyoungandangry - 2012-05-23 02:24

      freedom of expresion is fine? but freedome for blacks isnt?

  • allcoveredinNinjas - 2012-05-22 12:23

    It is important because if the judgement fovours Zuma then its not a far leap too any publication or artwork that is deemed negative to the image of the presidency could be censored and that is a slippery slope to autocracy .

      Peter - 2012-05-22 12:38

      Or Dictatorship

      Martin - 2012-05-22 13:00

      communist chinese reach arounding dictatorship

  • Atholl - 2012-05-22 12:24

    That person who asked the question ---> 'If politicians are spending every minute in and out of court - to defend Their conduct and Their decisions And to defend or prosecute the response (to the inaction) by the Public ---> ... Who is doing the work that they (the politicians) were elected to do ? ... Have they left the back door open ? ... Are the side windows also flapping in the wind ? ... Has somebody checked the Gold reserves to see if it's still there ? ... Are the children safe ?' Your question is 2 / 3 / 4 years old and nobody has the answer! The answer will continue to be smothered by new 'More Important' issues.

  • JohnnoBfree - 2012-05-22 12:25

    30 Billion Rand lost to corruption and fraud and a stupid painting is the main issue. The painting and exhibition have shown me what the ANC stand for. Now we spend more tax payers money to fight satire. Very poor show guys. Cry the beloved country.

  • Nicky - 2012-05-22 12:27

    Oh well, seeing that Julias has now been fired from the ANC, why not paint him in some subdued manner & see if that is of aNATIONALc importance?

  • Shirley Van Heerden - 2012-05-22 12:32

    This is sooooo funny!! Taxi drivers in Durban exsempted from paying traffic fines, nationally broadcast of a court case - about a painting!!!!!!! This is a circus! People are dying because hospitals are non functional, but you fight about a freaking painting! My teenager would say : DUHHHH!! I agree

      Shirley - 2012-05-22 12:34

      Its the anc logic!

      Arthur - 2012-05-22 12:39

      Yeah sadly so true.

      vlarismam - 2012-05-22 12:47

      I hope someone out there is busy painting 'the circus' !!

      beth.cameron.94 - 2012-05-22 13:23

      Personally don't find it 'funny', but do find it extremely disturbing that Durban taxi drivers have been given carte blanche, and that, apart from the national broadcast,our Government has elected to focus on something that should not be national/international news. Oh yes, the rest of the world are now hearing about all this and shaking their heads in disbelief/have a real laugh/realising just how 3rd world our country really is! Why are we not focussing on housing/electrification/piped water/decent hospitals and schools and, of critical importance, the rampant crime in our country. Crime not only being housebreakings/hijackings/etc., but blantant and in many cases condoned fraud/thievery by peoople in power within Government Departments. We then have the gall at interational forums to ask/demand that the West help us/take us seriously/sponsor/donate - do you really think any stable nation is going to take us seriously when we cannot address the real issues.

      delish7564 - 2012-05-23 08:13

      Couldn't agree more. Talk about getting your priorities sorted out. On the one hand, Freedom of Expression which I believe is a constitutional right, and on the other a group of people responsible for other people's safety who, by this decision, have been given "permission" to blatantly disregard the laws the rest of us have to abide by. This has nothing to do with race, this is sheer stupidity at its most dangerous! Fairly clear why other countries laugh at SA, unfortunately :(

  • Jan - 2012-05-22 12:35

    http://lockerz.com/s/210914602

  • Lucy - 2012-05-22 12:46

    This is a matter of great national importance," Setiloane said. WHAT IS THIS MAN SMOKING???????????//

  • DrGonzoSA - 2012-05-22 12:50

    This country gets nuttier by the day. Having a blatantly corrupt police chief is considered no big deal but a stupid bloody painting gets a live broadcast.

  • Nicolette Louise Reynecke - 2012-05-22 12:57

    hahaha i love it a zuma tottie showdown bwahahahahahahahahahah

  • ntjeke.wilfred - 2012-05-22 13:04

    oh e tv,e-toll

  • leoa.martins - 2012-05-22 13:04

    How is this for irony? http://pangamanagement.wordpress.com/2012/05/18/artworks-the-presidents-penis-brett-murray-and-ayanda-mabulu/ Another point, how is it that to help this country, the ANC is clueless and never has money for the poor and normal running of this country, and yet to get people and posters printed practically overnight must've cost. All that money could have probably fed a few families for a few days or months or years. Priorities are totally screwed!!

  • gerrit.volschenk - 2012-05-22 13:06

    And they force us to pay TV licenses so they can broadcast this rubbish.

  • tricia.sutherland1 - 2012-05-22 13:07

    "This is a matter of great national importance," Setiloane said. Really????, is there nothing else more important in SA than this. JZ's children are also joining the case .... and to think that in the meantime there are 1000s of volunteers out there feeding the homeless, protecting our neighbourhoods and the Zumas are using funds and time over a rude painting. Priorities people!!!

  • Steve - 2012-05-22 13:19

    great news that means all the arms probes , top cops challenges etc will also be aired the public needs to hear what our taxes are being used for and spent maybe the sabc could have a full channel for curruption and gov official trials - oh i forgot they are the mouth piece maybe dstv /multichoice can look to have a corruption channel !! lets get serious about theft !!

  • denise.liston - 2012-05-22 13:20

    At this rate it won't be long before someone jumps on the bandwagon and starts a new reality show along the lined of "Ringmaster of SA" This is becoming a circus. Now it gets broadcast on TV as a matter of national importance. Its such a sad day and I just wish people realized that all this stupidity is actually seen around the world. What must they think of our government and what makes it even sadder is that as South Africans we are going to get included as we are all part of the audience!! Please someone its time to change the ANCirus ringmaster and lets stop the games and get on with the business of running this country!

  • leoa.martins - 2012-05-22 13:20

    What utter fools thinking that asking City Press and the gallery to take down the painting will obliterate the painting in its entirety. I would also like to see JZ get Wikipedia to remove the painting off the Wikipedia site : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Spear_%28painting%29 and all over the internet. Accept it JZ, you created this spectacle now live with it! Would like to know whose money you are using for this court case and all expenses that go with it. People who constantly harp on "it's part of their culture".....need to realise that their is NOT the only culture in this country!!! Other ethnic groups have their own cultures to which constantly seem to be ignored. Here is the correction to my last post: http://ridwanlaher.blogspot.com/2012/05/should-anc-sue-artist-ayanda-mabulu-for.html The person depicted is not Zuma as originally thought but Oupa Gqozo. Also in that picture is Desmond Tutu with his penis visible and yet you didnt see it becoming a "national emergency".

  • IcemanGP - 2012-05-22 13:23

    "This is a matter of great national importance," Setiloane said. ... From this very comment, one can deduce that the judge may be biased in this case.

  • barry.boake - 2012-05-22 13:31

    I wonder how many street kids could've enjoyed a hot plate of food tonight if all the money wasted on this tripe was donated to a charity. It's art people, for goodness sake. "A matter of great national importance" ? Really? More a matter of great self importance.

  • Bruce - 2012-05-22 13:31

    All 21 children? That should make the case!

  • thapelo.devotion.mothibi - 2012-05-22 13:51

    Hahahahaha TREVOR NOAH, LOYISO GOLA and TSHEPO MOGALE shud be prepaid to run this comical country. What's happening outside the court nou? Tjo thought it was JUBJUB's trial verdict....lol

  • thapelo.devotion.mothibi - 2012-05-22 13:52

    Hahahahaha TREVOR NOAH, LOYISO GOLA and TSHEPO MOGALE shud be prepaid to run this comical country. What's happening outside the court nou? Tjo thought it was JUBJUB's trial verdict...all this for a painting?

  • sharoncridlan - 2012-05-22 13:55

    What a flacid state of affairs.......

  • EyesEars - 2012-05-22 13:59

    "This is a matter of great national importance," Oh goodness, more of the tax payers money spend on willy issues. When will this BS stop?

  • Brad Binneman - 2012-05-22 14:12

    There are way more important issues going on in this country at the moment. Priorities!

  • Carolyn - 2012-05-22 14:24

    How much money is this going to cost for a court fight? Do we not have enough on our plates without this nonsense?

  • jen.bader - 2012-05-22 14:33

    "This is a matter of great national importance," Setiloane said. Oh cow dung, national importance is crime, unemployment and the stupid decision given not to fine the Durban Taxi drivers. This is not important at all!!!

  • Aikhona - 2012-05-22 23:20

    I had the privilege of watching a newsclip this evening where the wee Lady Mazibuko had His Showerheaded Buffoonness in a nice tight corner. I can`t recall what the topic was, but our dearest failed presidents` lack of coherence, intelligence, and simple common-sense never came through much stronger then when he couldn`t muster a decent answer to the posed question. His limited schooling came into its own as well when he mangled every rule in the grammatical how-to manual, and gave the usual non-commital, non-answering stock response. So here`s an idea to allow the Number One Idiot the space to redeem himself as the number one decisio-maker in this country. Arrange a debate with Trevor Manuel, Wayne Duvenage, Mamphele Ramphele, Jacob Zuma with his loyal buffoony twin, Gwede Mantashe, and Zwelinzima. The topic of the debate will only be divulged on the day, and make it a prime time event with every channel screening it live. At least the so-called leader of the Republic can prove to everyone that he indeed have two brain-cells to rub together, and is capable of independent thinking. In case anyone wonders why I emphasize his thinking ability, is because you can`t make decisions or provide constructive leadership if you can`t digest, compare, and decide on the many different opinions, demands, problems, challenges, and alternatives that is inherent in running any enterprise, much less a country.

  • Blackyoungandangry - 2012-05-23 02:21

    Ok now watch my coalition in action, why do you think there broadcasting? there going to make a show of this! ANC STYLE. Thats black in South Africa we make a show of our enemies!

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