Ultimatums, insults, party politics – Mbete's Parliament budget vote as it happened

2016-05-12 15:30

'Continue to dig up dirt on me, you will find none' - read on for how Speaker of the National Assembly Baleka Mbete's Parliament’s budget vote unfolded.


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12 May 19:01

"It is very regrettable that honourable MPs stand here to attack a member of staff they appointed instead of using correct procedures."

She closes the budget debate.

12 May 18:59

"The matters that were raised on the role of the Speaker- these are matters best raised through Constitutional Review Committee.

"We are in a process of dealing with recommendations of Asmal Commission on Chapter 9 Institutions.

"The House is not an ANC debating forum, everyone must participate through the rules. You [referring to the EFF] abide by the rules by making a mockery of Parliament."

12 May 18:58
Baleka Mbete finished up today's Parliament budget vote.

This is what she had to say as concluding remarks...

12 May 18:55

'Parliament has been tested, found wanting'

Ultimatums, insults, party politics, pleas for the restoration of decorum, as well as the breakdown between management and staff, came under the spotlight during Parliament’s budget vote on Thursday.

12 May 18:26

Modise invites review on Speakers' appointments

Anybody unhappy with the way Speakers are appointed should apply for a Constitutional review, chairperson of the National Council of Provinces (NCOP) Thandi Modise said on Thursday.

12 May 16:02
News24 is closing the Live Update temporarily.

Speaker Baleka Mbete is due to close the House's session later tonight, and we will reopen the live update with her closing comments.

12 May 16:01
Frolick: We will embark on the full implementation of an APP that is designed for members that will have all the Parliament information for MPs.

12 May 16:00
Frolick: We want a responsive Parliament that is connected to its citizens by using technology and innovation.

12 May 15:57
House Chairperson Cedric Frolick is now speaking to the House. He has 10 minutes to speak.

12 May 15:56

Khubisa: If we debate with dignity, and stop calling each other names not consistent with the House, then normality will be restored.

The National Freedom Party will support this vote.

And before he gets going, his 3 minute speech is done.

12 May 15:55
Khubisa: Our conduct is taking away time for us to be making laws.

12 May 15:53
Nhlanhlakayise Khubisa of the NFP is now speaking.

12 May 15:52

"Parliament has some issues to address in the precinct too, the internet is very slow and the wifi is poor, for one."

Singh runs out of time and leaves the podium.

12 May 15:50
"We also need to sort the issue out with the pensioners protesting outside Parliament so this Parliament can get back to work."

12 May 15:50

“In almost every other sitting there is a threat of court action," Singh begins.

“Parliament has found itself to be in contravention.

“This one very honourable house has been shaken to its very foundations.

"It seems parliament has become better to watch than daytime TV.

“Drastic action has to be taken if we are to address this decline.

“In short, we all need to get our acts together. “Common decency and respect are becoming relics of the past.”

12 May 15:47
Mdakane concludes his speech, and Narend Singh of the IFP now speaks for 4 minutes.

12 May 15:44
Mdakane: One party insults us, but we still debate here. Debate our policies, don't insult us.

12 May 15:44
Mdakane: There can be no democracy without people. The views of the majority shall prevail.

12 May 15:42

Various MPs, including the EFF, are now raising more points of order.

12 May 15:37

"Let the opposition stop thundering without make a significant policy proposition - thunders cause fires.

"Equal opportunity as a policy is aimed at protecting white privilege and keeping the status quo."

12 May 15:37
To the DA: "The DA does not believe in transformation, hence there's no mention of it in their policies."

12 May 15:37
To the EFF: "We told your cousins [Cope] they will not be here after the 2014 elections and they are not here."

12 May 15:36
"We have no right to turn this house into a field of personal attacks, Freedom of Speech does not amount to these spurious attacks," Mdakane says.

12 May 15:36
Richard Mdakane of the ANC is now speaking to the House.

12 May 15:20

Rawula starts speaking again and asks ANC MPs how they can sleep at night.

Before he can get going again, his time is up.

12 May 15:17
Multiple points of orders are now being raised.

12 May 15:16
Rawula ignores this and starts referring to the president as "President Zuma".

12 May 15:15
At this, an ANC MP interjects to Rawula referring to the President as "Mr Zuma", and not "his excellency, the honourable president."

12 May 15:15
"Mr Zuma has done the worst, it remains bizzare why he is still in office."

12 May 15:14

"As for Mr Zuma," Rawula continues, "he remains an illegitimate parliament. In fact, he is not allowed in this parliament."

12 May 15:14

Rawula addresses his first comments toward the ANC.

"Everyone in the ANC has to help them put Zuma first and the Guptas second.

"This parliament is not an ANC debating forum, it is the parliament of the people."

12 May 15:13
Thembinkosi Rawula of the EFF is now speaking.

12 May 15:12

"We can fix this institution and we can rebuild it again, it will take the will of all members."

With that, Steenhuisen finishes his speech.

12 May 15:07

"Madam Speaker I know it's not an easy job, but never before has Parliament descended to this.

"Instead of placing Parliament first, the Speaker has chosen to cling to the chair at all costs.

"Surely you want to be remembered as the Speaker who protected Parliament, not the Speaker who destroyed it?"

12 May 15:06
"The House needs to go back to work so it can get South Africans back to work."

12 May 15:05

"There is no wonder our citizens have decided to resort to violent protest and burn infrastructure.

"This Parliament ceased a long time ago from being a place for the public.

"It's become a playground for the executive, and the Speaker has allowed this to happen and done nothing.

12 May 15:02

"This House can no longer pretend that the economy is in a dire crisis, now surpassed by Nigeria and Egypt on the continent.

"This House can no longer pretend that its not the poor policy choices and skeletons of the Zuma administration that is strangling jobs."

12 May 15:01
"But there is a more important question that needs to be asked: What are you say afraid of hearing?

"The truth?"

12 May 15:01

"What you have said today Honourable Speaker, is yet another trampling on freedom of speech.

"We look forward to teaching you another lesson in court," says Steenhuisen.

12 May 15:00

"In this House, time and time again, the courts have had to step in and remind the presiding officers that they can't trample on freedom of speech.

"De Lille vs the Speaker, Lekota vs the Speaker...

"Yet time and time again, the presiding officers resort to stifling debate."

12 May 14:58

"Disruption in this House is getting worse by the day.

"Just last week, the leader of the opposition was removed from the House for referring to the President as Accused Number 1, this despite the Gauteng High Court ruling that he must face 783 charges of corruption."

12 May 14:57

"In 1996, we accepted the ideal of freedom speech.

"The representatives must never again be afraid to say what needed to be said in this house for fear of persecution."

"Why do you remain silent, and complicit in the trampling of that freedom," he says to the ANC MPs.

"Every time you do this, you betray your own rights, and the mandate of the people who sent you to speak for them in this House."

12 May 14:56

"One of the fundamental parts of our jobs is to hold the president to account.

"It would be a sad day if the presiding officers allowed the Saps to arrest us in this House for fulfilling our duties."

12 May 14:55

"Thank you Honourable Speaker," says John Steenhuisen.

"The question we must ask ourselves today, are we living up to the expectations of the people who voted in 1994."

12 May 14:54
Dlakude concludes her speech, and chief whip of the opposition John Steenhuisen takes the podium.

12 May 14:53
"We affirm the electoral expression of the majority at the polls by not dithering on the principle of majority rule."

12 May 14:53
"We hope to change previous practices that are not adaptable to prevailing conditions, and enable the plurality of ideas and thoughts."

12 May 14:52
"Our hope is to retain conventions that prove to be valuable and appropriate to our present day environment."

12 May 14:49
"While we would have amicably agreed in these forums, some parties come to the House and act contrary to those agreements."

12 May 14:48
"As Chief Whips of all different political parties, we have a Chief Whips Forum, a forum which enables us to consult each other."

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