AS IT HAPPENED: 'Secret ballot' judgment is reserved

2017-05-15 19:50

Chief Justice Mogoeng Mogoeng thanks all legal representatives for their arguments in the protracted "secret ballot" case brought to the Constitution Court by the United Democratic Movement (UDM).


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15 May 19:50
The Chief Justice thanks the legal experts for their arguments. He says judgment is reserved 

15 May 19:49
Mogoeng jokes that Mpofu has more energy now than in the morning when he made his first argument 

15 May 19:47
UDM leader Bantu Holomisa, also in the courtroom, is listening to Mpofu's argument attentively 

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Mpofu says, since we have twelve political parties, the country only needs twelve MPs, and not 400 as is the case now

15 May 19:38
Mpofu: In a multiparty system, it is difficult for MPs to be "spineful", "whatever the opposite of spineless is"

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Mpofu says it's the job of the court to interfere when there are disputes 

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Mogoeng asks if parliament shouldn't be left alone to make its own decisions, without being influenced by the ConCourt

15 May 19:27
Mpofu says irrespective of those conditions there would be a situation where a secret vote would be needed like now, with Zuma.

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15 May 19:25
Mpofu asks if there is a need for secrecy when voting a President into office, why should it be treated differently when he "needs" to be voted out? 

15 May 19:22
He argues that he will use "effectiveness" and "absurdity" approach in his argument. 

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He says he used the "mischief approach" in his earlier argument 

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Mpofu promises Mogoeng that he'll not mention the word "discretion" 

15 May 19:13
Mpofu starts with his argument. He asks for 20 minutes

15 May 19:12
The Chief Justice is asking how do we interpret the rules of Parliament. 

15 May 19:06
Mogoeng asks how will the system all MPs to vote without their names reflecting on how they voted. 

15 May 19:04
Mogoeng jokes that he was Semenya's roommate. Court bursts in laughter 

15 May 19:00
Mogoeng asks if it will not be an unnecessary encroachment to ask the ConCourt to force to Speaker to enforce the secret ballot 

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Semenya: I don't know whether there is a risk

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What is the risk to the executive and party to secret voting? Asks Justice Cameron

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Semenya argues that an open vote cannot hold the executive to account - "It's a far reaching conclusion"

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Moegoeng says in the instance of a vote of no confidence, the president doesn't want to go

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Semenya says a secret ballot to elect the president only happens when there is more than one candidate

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Semenya argues for transparency, saying that even judges may argue that their names on judgments might put them at risk

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Semenya shows a lot of confidence

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Next up to face the court is Ishmail Semenya

15 May 18:26

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