AS IT HAPPENED: Marli's blood missing from axe

2017-09-13 09:38

Henri van Breda's murder trial resumed in the Western Cape High Court for day 38 of the proceedings.

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13 Sep 15:18

13 Sep 15:16
Court is adjourned to tomorrow. 

13 Sep 15:00

13 Sep 14:59
Judge Desai clarifies that the 'unidentified' blood stains don't necessarily belong to unknown person, they just couldn't be identified.

13 Sep 14:58

13 Sep 14:51

13 Sep 14:51
Botha presses on the 'close proximity' statement. Can you say exactly how far, he asks. Galloway objects.

13 Sep 14:49
No blood of Henri Van Breda found on any of victims, bodies or their clothes. Also not on either of the duvets, Capt Joubert says.

13 Sep 14:42
19 stains unknown, couldn't determine whose blood it is, Botha says. Adv Galloway objects, says no unknown DNA found at  Van Breda scene.


13 Sep 14:32
Pics of Marli Van Breda in hospital show that injuries were quite close together, Adv Botha says. Some measure of spatter then expected?

13 Sep 14:26

13 Sep 14:22

New live stream up:


13 Sep 14:20
Neurosurgeon who treated Marli Van Breda in an affidavit said the teen had 5 deep lacerations on skull, one on wrist, and one on neck.

13 Sep 14:17
Court is back in session.

13 Sep 13:19
What do you think about the Van Breda trial? Let us know your thoughts by tweeting us using the hashtag #VanBreda. 

13 Sep 12:52
Court breaks for lunch.

13 Sep 12:52
"The absence of evidence is not evidence of absence", Joubert says.

13 Sep 12:52
It would also explain why her DNA wasn't on his shorts or socks, Botha says.

13 Sep 12:51
Botha: Henri Van Breda in plea explanation said more than one person in house. If Marli attacked with another object, would explain blood absence?

13 Sep 12:50

13 Sep 12:48
What are chances of Marli Van Breda's blood - with neck, head wounds - not being found on axe ?It would be expected to be there, Joubert says.

13 Sep 12:47
Capt Joubert explains if you strike different areas with the axe, possibility of blood transfer minimal; creating new wounds.

13 Sep 12:47
Capt Joubert can't explain absence of Marli's blood. Axe could possibly have been cleaned, he speculates after Judge Desai asks.

13 Sep 12:40
Dr Anthony said Marli Van Breda was probably involved in severe struggle/scuffle with attacker. Why no blood on shorts, socks, axe, Botha asks.

13 Sep 12:37
Dr Anthony, who did postmortems on Van Breda family, said Marli's injuries similar to that of parents and brother.

13 Sep 12:36
No DNA of Marli Van Breda found on Henri's shorts or socks. Nor on axe, Adv Botha says. Correct, Joubert responds.

13 Sep 12:29
Blood gets diluted when shower is used, and eventually won't be detected with Blue Star, Capt Joubert explains.

13 Sep 12:29

13 Sep 12:29
Adv Botha: according to Henri Van Breda, it wasn't strange for them to use each other's bathrooms. Could that explain blood? It could, Joubert says.

13 Sep 12:22
Adv Botha: Did you test floors in other showers in Van Breda house? He did, Joubert says. Didn't add it to his report.

13 Sep 12:18
Capt Joubert listed shower reaction as blood stain. Lt Col Otto said it was DNA. Joubert says reaction meant could've been blood.

13 Sep 12:15
Shower floor presumptive test means there was possible blood present. Later confirmed to be Teresa, Rudi and Henri Van Breda's blood.

13 Sep 12:06

13 Sep 12:00

Captain Joubert says he took Van Breda bathroom samples.Paperwork says basin was swabbed by WO Hitchcock.

Joubert says he handled the shower.


13 Sep 11:56
Blood in Van Breda brothers' shower: detected due to the use of Blue Star, Adv Botha asks. Captain Joubert confirms, says reaction was weak.

13 Sep 11:53
Botha now dealing with blood in the bathroom

13 Sep 11:51

13 Sep 11:46
Adv Botha maintains 'easy version' that it could have been caused by someone walking past or toward side gate and blood had dripped.

13 Sep 11:45
Capt Joubert noted it could be a result of wind. Adv Botha says had it travelled unhindered, it would've landed close to gate.

13 Sep 11:45
Flight path of two droplets of Rudi Van Breda's changed given their eventual point of impact on wall, Adv Botha says. Correct, Joubert says

13 Sep 11:37
Court is back in session. New live stream:

13 Sep 11:15
Court breaks for tea.

13 Sep 11:15

Botha: Do you not agree that it is expected that there should be blood stains on the window frame?

Joubert: I can't remember, but we cant collect each and every spot on the scene.


13 Sep 11:13

Rudi Van Breda's blood on adjacent house wall went through the top-opening window, missed cushion, lampshade, window and frame?

Yes, Joubert says.


13 Sep 11:12
Botha now questions the blood found on neighbours wall.

13 Sep 11:03

Botha says a sample taken near where Marli Van Breda’s body found presented foreign allele, according to an expert.

Joubert says he isn’t a DNA analyst and can't comment.


13 Sep 10:57

13 Sep 10:55
Botha now asking about blood stains found in the room upstairs. He asks for clarity on whether there are 4/5 stains. 

13 Sep 10:46

Botha refers to photo 106, saying the blood on the axe was still liquid enough for it to run down the handle.

Joubert says that is correct.

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