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ANC Youth League absent at art protest

2012-05-29 21:57

Johannesburg - The ANC Youth League was notably absent from Tuesday's protest at the Goodman Gallery in Johannesburg.

While representatives of all other ANC structures and their affiliates marched from Zoo Lake to the gallery in Rosebank to hand over a memorandum protesting against Brett Murray's painting The Spear, the ANCYL did not turn up.

The ANC called off its boycott of City Press, after the newspaper, which had published a photo of the work on its website, took it down.

Throughout the furore over the painting, the youth league had remained silent. In its Sunday edition, however, City Press published an editorial by the league's expelled president, Julius Malema.

Malema defended the gallery's right to display The Spear, a painting which, until it was defaced last Tuesday, depicted President Jacob Zuma with his genitals exposed.

Malema wrote that City Press had a right to publish it. He said the voice of reason in South Africa was disappearing.

"No one had the courage to stand up and speak against undemocratic and potentially despotic practices from within the ranks of the democratic movement.

"Banning newspapers simply because we disagree with them, and boycotting them on the basis of believing that our conception of truth is absolute, poses a real threat to our democracy," he wrote.

Someone in the crowd held up a poster: "Juju we do not miss you boy."

Congress of SA Trade Unions president Sdumo Dlamini said in isiZulu part of artist Brett Murray's agenda was to undermine the rule of the majority.

"The insult to Zuma was an insult to all of us. You strike Zuma, you strike us," he said.

Deputy Health Minister Gwen Ramokgopa said if the president was under attack, everyone was under attack.

Comments
  • Johann - 2012-05-29 22:04

    Apartheid's fault - that the ANCYL was not present.

      Squeegee - 2012-05-29 22:21

      None of them could find an art gallery if their lives depended on it...

      Luviwe - 2012-05-29 22:28

      You seem to be obsessed with apartheid even more than the ANC which blames everything on it when things go pearshaped or play the race card as apartheid was about anyway. Dissapointed, can we as South Africans disscuss real issues.

      grootrot.vanzyl - 2012-05-29 22:47

      NEws24, who cares? Why is it news in your opinion?

  • Kyle - 2012-05-29 22:07

    I was absent. 99.9% of us were absent. It was stupid. They pretend its about racism and abuse of freedom of speech, but its just a political ploy for support. The germans used to behave like this too. We need some1 to save this country

      Johann - 2012-05-29 22:19

      Agree with you fully. The issue is not race, but political ideology. The USSR comes to mind. And a war that was fought on the borders of this country 25 years ago.

  • Crracker - 2012-05-29 22:12

    That painting has destroyed Jacob Zuma. The ANC faction that thought it was to his benefit to make such a fuss about it had it all wrong. They thought they were winding up the election campaign for him. The image of the painting has stuck. The necessity to bus in supporters from far afield? Not much of a spontaneous reaction. Adter all, what exactly did the painting misrepresent?

      Thabang - 2012-05-29 22:59

      @Crracker, History has proven that sympathy votes can over shadow performance and moral vote. Do you remember what happened in Polokwane with JZ perceived as a victim of political conspiracy? Through this painting a similar situation has emerged where He is once again perceived as the victim. I believe this will be for JZ's benefit. Opportunity came knocking on the door at the right time.

      Luviwe - 2012-05-30 00:20

      And seized it with both hands, that is true Tabang.

      nigel.vanysendyk - 2012-05-30 07:53

      @ Thabang, you are right, it is the sign of a desperate man, he will do anything to cling to power, pretending to care about dignity, human rights & morals, he uses this opportunity to rally support for Manaung, like a wolf in sheeps clothing, instead of showing that he can lead, that he can create jobs, that he can educate the masses, that he can bring real transformation based on growth & wealth creation, he hides behind weak gestures of fake principles, preying on those that can be bullied.

      Nyiks11 - 2012-05-30 10:16

      the man is good at playing the victim and uses the sympathy votes to turn him into a victor .

  • Sean - 2012-05-29 22:16

    I don't think anyone anymore can be surprised by any action of our ill-disciplined ANC youth league. It is a difficult and blink future we have with this crop of youth leaders. I'm sure all of them will be changed by the masses when the time comes. \r\nI'm yet to see what is the work of this youth league other that to be pushed by those to want to enrich themselves.

      Luviwe - 2012-05-29 22:31

      They were not invited.

      Phillip - 2012-05-30 14:27

      The marchers were all stupid blinded by boss zuma,Blade,mantashe this people want to cling to power untill JESUS COMES.

  • rowen.loretz - 2012-05-29 22:19

    first time in the history of the ANCYL that they did something right for a change by not joining the march.Zuma must go but so does malema. So who do we need to run the country now?

      Tax - 2012-05-29 22:32

      The DA.

      Godfrey - 2012-05-29 22:44

      @Tax...spot on!!!

      Nyiks11 - 2012-05-30 10:18

      the DA stands for what , Disguised Apartheid ?

      bambanani.mdzimba - 2012-05-30 11:31

      you,

  • Tete Matlala - 2012-05-29 22:24

    i think it was good for the ANCYL did not get involved

  • Johann - 2012-05-29 22:24

    @ Luviwe - Just following the example of our leaders. Everything is Apartheid's fault. Even you and me. :-)

  • Luviwe - 2012-05-29 22:24

    If an organisation organises a march they can invite you if they want to, in this case the NEC wanted all the glory hence they even lied about the painting taken off the gallery. That march was about the show of strength for Mangaung.

      Fano Mcanyana - 2012-05-29 22:34

      luviwe why not join the anc you so much interested with all their stories, sorry we don,t need a member like power monger

      Luviwe - 2012-05-29 22:42

      Fano I chose not to join it not by default, don't look too far for power mongers look at the current breed.

      nigel.vanysendyk - 2012-05-30 07:58

      1000% correct, it was show to get support for December, it was not about principle & human dignity, the irony is that they intimidated & bullied the City Press & Gallery while they were pretending to be fighting for principles. Where are the real leaders, where?

      Phillip - 2012-05-30 14:29

      only 1500 people attended the March,Now show me where is the strength.

  • George - 2012-05-29 22:25

    They couldn't come as no one wanted to buy diapers for them. Let the spoilt brat rot in the wilderness. The ANC is pushing ahead without the so called economic freedom fighters.

      Thabang - 2012-05-29 22:35

      ANC is committing future suicide by not engaging the radical and vibrant YL.

      Alfred Luis - 2012-05-30 06:27

      @George,my man Anc at its current state is at disarray nd yL have shown a sign of unity by nt pitching up.Zuma will be remembered who almost brought abwt d down fall of d Anc but he wont get d chance to do that cos he'll be ousted at mangaung come december.

  • michael.falatsi - 2012-05-29 22:34

    ANC ya ''dikhothane'' simply lacks leadership.zuma doesnt care i bet you he is in bed with all 4 wifes using the spear.as a responsible leader he should be adresing the nation because we have been more divided in the past 2 weeks

      Themba - 2012-05-30 08:45

      He will address the nation as soon as someone writes a speech for him on what he should say. Until then, he'll be giggling and having a good time in his harem, singing "mshini wam' mshini wam'"

  • Thabang - 2012-05-29 22:39

    Whether ANC like it or not, they need the ANCYL. Unfortunately they are still not willing to engage them and reach a political settlement on their differences. It will be sad for ANC to have a YL that will be a "yes baas" without challenging their mother body on some of their decisions.

  • maseratifittipaldi - 2012-05-29 22:43

    "ANC Youth League absent at art protest" At least someone in the ANC shows some sense.

  • Jay - 2012-05-29 22:59

    Dear Readers, The ANCYL were at Painting Classes to learn how to repaint the Spear! Or looking for Finance to buy out the City Press! Or looking to become Economic Freedom Fighters! It does not matter how many protests, how many apologies, how many marches! Both the ANC & their ANCYL deserve each other! JZ will ALWAYS... Until his death & beyond..... be remembered by the SHOWER & SPEAR Pictures of him! Is he an Example to our Kids? Question: Why has such embarrassing pictures never being painted of MADIBA or MBEKI or TUTU or KGALEMA? Answer: Simple, Because they did not behave like JZ! I Rest My Case! BTW, DO NOT BUY AN e-TAG! EVER!

  • papi.koko - 2012-05-30 00:10

    The ancyl was absent, SO WHAT?

      maseratifittipaldi - 2012-05-30 06:46

      egg...zackilly !

  • Kholofelo - 2012-05-30 00:26

    Viva Malema Viva!!! it is with the right of a publication to publish something that is of public interest not ANC's interest.All these ministers fleed their own huge businesses,and turned to give useless comments about the painting...Mr Gwen Ramokgopa should've gone first to Kalofong Hospital(PTA)and see their *nice* damn poor conditions that patients are sleeping in.

  • Mbali - 2012-05-30 01:05

    ********YAWNS********

  • Bheki - 2012-05-30 01:56

    Juju you are History and We don't miss you,try Stand-up Comedy. The insult to Zuma is an insult to the Whole Nation.

      Gareth Jesús Funnyman Nicholson - 2012-05-30 03:09

      How much do you get paid per pro anc comment? Btw an insult to zuma, is an insult to zuma. What affects him, has nothing to do with me. Some of us don't want to be included in the anc nation, so don't boldly say whole. I don't firmly believe in corruption as the anc do.

      Alfred Luis - 2012-05-30 06:07

      @Bheki,yes u dnt miss him but d yL misses him,seun hence their absent at d march nd u better wake up nd smell d coffee or r u simply denying d reality,shame on you.

      liyaaqat.james - 2012-05-30 06:51

      My friend u are confused

      thabani.alfred - 2012-05-30 07:48

      M an ancyl Card holding menber BT i dnt Miss tht juli-ass boy..

      nigel.vanysendyk - 2012-05-30 08:04

      I never thought I would see the day when, the ANC supporters would hate each other like this. It just goes to show that greed, intolerance & ignorance knows no limits, seems that anyone that disagrees or challenges the other is the enemy, It won't be long before these different ANC groups are at each others throats, the masses are starting to realize that they are more interested in power, money & influence than they are in principles, honesty & prosperity.

      Themba - 2012-05-30 08:39

      Bheki did you speak tothe "Whole Nation" before concluding that we all feel insulted? You are already high so early

      Phillip - 2012-05-30 14:53

      Bheki go to hell we miss JUJU in times like this

  • fezile.somraba - 2012-05-30 02:32

    if they think that those ppl who there in that march actually shows the support zuma is having they r wrong.the battle to mangaung is fought on the branches not on the streets.the so called nec if they were gunning a support i feel sorry 4 them a lot of work has already been done @ branches by the ancyl and the progressive members of the anc at branches level.the commander in chief of the economic freedom fighters hv spoken already anyone who stands on the way of this moving strain is in trouble.we r moving at a very high speed,history will tell u that whatever the youth says it goes.let's wait and see mangaung is around the corner shower man is going.we r saying ABZ that is the approach we hv adopted.viva ancyl viva,viva progressive members of tha anc viva,viva progressive members of the alliance viva revolution in progress cdrs.amandla aluta continua

  • siliziwem - 2012-05-30 02:33

    under attack from what, aliens? thats good!

  • fezile.somraba - 2012-05-30 02:52

    there is nothing amiss abt the ancyl by not attending that much really bcz we can't as a nation allow a situation whereby a whole nation will be drag into ones man issue of not being in good standing in the eyes of the public.zuma is not a good example in our country it was bcz of a compromise that he became the president of our country in the first place.the intelectuals and members of the anc will never allow that to happen hence it was agreed in the ancyl conference that zuma must go it was based on that,our ppl r being mobilise along the racial lines.zuma is a tribalist,history will tell u even the progressive anc members then from kzn didn't like him bcz of that.this country is taking another direction under this power monger.let's defend the congress of the ppl resolutions of 1952 which r clearly articulated in the freedom charter

      Palesa Thumbu - 2012-05-30 08:00

      What I think people are failing to understand is Zuma is a human being and The Spear is violating Zuma's human right before u say more or laugh ask urself how will u feel if that was ur father's portrait be4 politics Zuma family man and that needs to be respected yes he has his weakness with women that's his private life and so are many man who don't even earn up to their offspring this is not just politics its a war against human right as for Malema bro get a life we tired of ur tjatjarag comments shut up cause u dont even know how is like to have a father.

      Themba - 2012-05-30 08:37

      Palesa, I have asked my self how I will feel if my father was potrayed in the same manner as Zuma. If he was a womaniser like Zuma, I would say "served you right father!"

  • Gareth Jesús Funnyman Nicholson - 2012-05-30 03:03

    Wish Malema would speak out more against the anc...

      nkosinathi.dyantyi.9 - 2012-05-30 04:25

      We dnt mis him

  • ziphok1 - 2012-05-30 06:01

    I'm glad they were not there. Atleast no one was hurt. When the clowns are around no one is safe.

  • bryan.billy2 - 2012-05-30 06:13

    ja neh! 4 sure oil nd water wl neva mix! Bt i think water z th motherbody of liquids of which water must b prospected.

  • neo.khemisi - 2012-05-30 06:22

    GOOD,people who where there were in sober mind with purposE no business were vandalize and yes its was a MARCH AGAINST not RIOTING AGAINST.and as for Malema the sooner he shut that his s**t hole the better

  • TheVern69 - 2012-05-30 06:28

    Funny how the comrades turn on each other when one \leader\ has a problem with the other \leader\! Pppfffttt

  • anthro45 - 2012-05-30 06:40

    Why is Malemma still in the news and who cares what the ANCYL does? Who cares? Besides not understanding art, they were most probably sitting under a tree picking snot.

      Lawrence Hans - 2012-05-30 07:26

      The anc should be concerned as it mass is made up of ancyl.. looks like Malema is getting his way! its true what 5 year old daughter says: they like a bunch of animals that lives in a zoo, hey daddy!!

  • Nhlanhla - 2012-05-30 07:02

    Squeaky bum time

  • vivian.harris.73 - 2012-05-30 07:17

    We must be the a big joke to the rest of the word. Protest march about a stupid painting, yet the government failing in its duty at all levels. And we suppose to be proudly South African....think NOT.

      Themba - 2012-05-30 08:33

      Assuming "we" all participated in the protest march, you are right

  • themba.fourtyone - 2012-05-30 07:24

    @nkosinathi.dyantyi.9 - We dnt mis him U SPEAKE 4 URSELF IDIOT, MALEMA IS TH ONLY MAN THAT CAN FIGHT THE COMMUNIST(ANC)

      thabani.alfred - 2012-05-30 07:39

      And thats why we Dont need him in our Movement coz we need people to build our Movement not right it.

      Themba - 2012-05-30 08:32

      You are as confused as Malema. He was lately seen donning a T-shirt with Chris Hani's face on it. As everyone knows, Chris Hani was a devout communist. How do you idolise a communist and fight communism in the same breath?

  • Sello Jacky Majadibodu - 2012-05-30 07:36

    Of course u dont miss JuJU, simply because you are the IFP, COPE and DA supporters punks!

      nigel.vanysendyk - 2012-05-30 08:10

      lol, you are either confused, brainwashed or just blind...many of the intolerant comments about Juju are coming from ANC supporters (Zuma supporters to be specific). But your blind support for the ANC has made you prejudiced against any party that opposes the current Govt., in a democracy its called the opposition, not the enemy, but then again you are supporting a dictatorship, what would you understand about democracy.

  • Sello Jacky Majadibodu - 2012-05-30 07:38

    Who in his right mind can take a day off , just to go march for another man's penis!

      Themba - 2012-05-30 08:31

      The answer is: "ANC leaders"! They have taken leave of their senses

  • themba.fourtyone - 2012-05-30 07:52

    @Sello Jacky Majadibodu - Who in his right mind can take a day off , just to go march for another man's penis! u ryt SELLO he's been advertising his mshini wakhe 4 sumtym nw is time to get recognition

  • jmasha3 - 2012-05-30 08:05

    ANCYL made it clear from their last conference they don't want Zuma anymore because he is not setting a good example as an elder person and the President of the country and the painting is saying the same thing.The President stripped himself, ancyl decided to get rid of him Bret painted him.So I didn't expect the ancyl to join the march, to them Zuma is a dic(tator).

  • Marion - 2012-05-30 08:14

    Malema will jump on any bandwagon just to get his voice heard.

      Luviwe - 2012-05-30 10:34

      Hypocrites the likes of you were so annoyed that malema was given too much time by this paper. Now because he is having problems with ANC he must be heard. Remember the black on black violence in the late eighties or early ninties.

  • Lauden Kirk - 2012-05-30 08:17

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaIlbXXbE1U&feature=youtube_gdata_player

  • Akhona - 2012-05-30 08:18

    the only thing that will save this country is the white president, i know most of you might not like this but trust me its our only hope.

      Marion - 2012-05-30 08:24

      @Akhona - the only thing that will save this country is a good president.

      Phae - 2012-05-30 08:46

      Trust me it is a stupid thing to say, the last thing we need is an Afropean president, do you want SA to burn? If you are insinuating there are no African people capable of doing the job, you are a fool, there are many brilliant and honourable people, but they will only be seen when this present group of thieves and deceivers are removed.

      Valecia - 2012-05-30 09:06

      Well I suggest that a decent president run this country next who is capable and is faithful to this country and would make room for improvement and would also make a major change in this country by providing employment reducing crime rate and improve the lifestyle as well so that everyone can live a peaceful life.

  • lerato.kay.3 - 2012-05-30 08:26

    I thought everyone agreed that ANCYL is irrelevant, I will be happy if the headline read -  ANC Youth League absent in SA Politics! But from the tv footage there were plenty of youths, maybe they were from DA

      Luviwe - 2012-05-30 09:38

      Rent a crowd. they were bussed in by the anc.

  • Goldtree - 2012-05-30 08:34

    This is so stupidly typical, some bum paints images about a ruling political, never mind that some of the images look racy and then the whole damn country goes up in arms roaring "It's racism!" Typical. Why can't they just call the painter a "racist", sue him and then we can get on with our lives??? And yes, I designed http://www.goldtree.co.za

      Themba - 2012-05-30 08:47

      Oh please man it was not "the whole damn country," all 53 million of us!

  • eric.martinsich - 2012-05-30 08:46

    The main reason why the ANCYL did not come out in support of Jacob Zuma is because they do not support him to be the President at next elections. This whole painting march is mainly to elevate Jacob again and ANCYL do not want that.

  • pheko.malebye - 2012-05-30 08:55

    bye bye juju we dont need u or miss u.ancyl wil defend zuma al the way no matter what ur saying.we wil vote 4 zuma in december at magaung.

      Luviwe - 2012-05-30 10:00

      That will be a sad day for South Africa which is already bleeding from this man, remember what the spear had done to the country.

  • DieHoekseun - 2012-05-30 09:14

    We miss you Malema, Where are you? Lmao.

  • daimond.phiri - 2012-05-30 09:28

    the youth had no reason to join the march

  • bonganiemmanuel.mazibuko - 2012-05-30 09:37

    juju we dnt miss u poi, n u r alwys out of line, if Zuma is under attack we are all under attack.

      Luviwe - 2012-05-30 10:02

      Speak for yourself, I am not.

  • imatsobe - 2012-05-30 10:01

    I rily dnt gt it wit da ANCYL, dy wud march 4 a pic bt y cnt dy do da same 4 graduates unemployment, underemployment, crime, free education, formal settlements n al? But a pic!

  • Leonard Mokgotlhwe - 2012-05-30 10:04

    ANCYL must be totally be removed from South African politics ,it makes no deference. It does not the change life of youth nothing

  • Nyiks11 - 2012-05-30 10:10

    The ANCYL has taken a few steps back for a longer leap forward it seems .

  • collen.masetla - 2012-05-30 10:26

    ANCYL better protest for the poor, like the ECONOMIC FREEDOM IN OUR LIFE TIME MARCH, than protesting for penis. Whoever said he don't miss PRESIDENT JULIUS MALEMA is just trying to be famous and we ignore that. Remember Julius is coming back to take over his ANC. HE IS ANC AND ANC IS JULIUS AND THAT IS WHY WHEREVER ANC IS INVOLVED YOU HAVE TO MENTION HIS NAME. So ANCYL now wants a much respectable president to bring back the dignity of our glorious movement. Nelson Mandela once said ANC leader must be in good morals everywhere he/she is. We can't afford to have a president who is not even taken serious by fellow African leaders and abroad, a president who under his leadership the president of the youth league is removed just because he was advised that the league president is the only one to stop his second term, a president who under his leadership the ANC seem to fight with everybody from ANCYL, COSADTU, COMMUNITIES, THE POOR AND THE UNEPLOYED, ARTISTS, JOURNALISTS...ALMOST EVERY STRTUCTURE OF THE SOCIETY. No wonder we are declining in votes. So we better march for the better life for all than a penis.

      joubert.tlou - 2012-05-30 22:40

      cde dont worry abt that stupit they even write for him we do miss our president nt him whom dont even wonna khow his name he is fool entleck hw can u march for penis nd predent to be cde cde march for economic freedom nt size of smn penis long live juju long live ,,

  • Winifred - 2012-05-30 12:42

    Julius, we all know you speak with a forked tongue but since you have been thrown out the anc you are starting to make a bit of sense. You are very right to say we need a new president, zuma that you were willing to die for has served his purpose. He has got the zulu's who were staunch I.F.P. to sell their souls to the anc. This is the only thing constructive that he has done to date otherwise he cowers behind his cabinet ministers. South Africans must ask themselves, is this the man to right out country and take us forward or I am sure there must be a far better leader out there that can pull us out of the cancer stricken government. Give us a lead who is strong, that will lead from the front, rid us from all these ministers etc that think they own our purse strings who have port folios that they cant handle e.g. education, health, service delivery and so on. Give us a leader we can all look up to and respect and we as south africans can be a proud nation once again. It really does'nt matter which party is in power, we only ask for good governance and somebody we can respect. Racism is being forced on the people by government for a reason, people in the street dont need that, we do care about each other but the anc is sowing the seeds of disaster.

  • Julius JuJu Sematla - 2012-05-30 13:29

    before Malema was kicked out of ANCYL! he use to stand for everything that use to come to ANC's way weather its right or wrong,Now cause they kicked him out.He would stand for DA if they provoke ANC.....Juju should mind his Lyrics, but though lam missing Juju

  • glen.e.huysamer - 2012-05-30 13:37

    The painting has become a true spear, wounding the side of Zuma, followed by hundred thousand blades causing the ZUMA faction to slowly bleed out. The fact is "The Spear' has served a deadly wound onto the Zuma camp, and it has also revealed who is attached to the camp. South Africa can be thankful, because it is clear that Ju-Ju was 100% correct when he said that the ZUMA faction were and are pushing for a dictatorship. Many South Africans have been aware of this, he was the first politician to publicly state this. (Even though weary we be from where the warning comes, it seems to be the truth) It is better for the ANC to clear the house at Maugaung, now that they know who ponders the dictatorship of both the ANC organization and South Africa. Clearly the fact that the turnout of the march being a rent a crowd, bused in from rural areas must show that the present ANC-alliance leadership do not actually have the support of the majority of the ANC supporters. The majority ANC supporters have come to understand the message that the art has portrayed and are disgusted at the leadership and those members who have brought the entire party into such disrepute. The truth is blazon, and the more the ANC-elitists few shout fowl about 'the Spear', the more the ANC supporters are asking themselves, when will the leadership admit and apologies for the failures that obviously spurred the Artist of the Exhibition: Hail to the Thief, to express such a damming view of the ANC.