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Zuma painting is racist: ANC

2012-05-21 11:14

Johannesburg - The ANC's national executive committee (NEC) was still smarting over a painting of its president Jacob Zuma's genitals, branding it racist on Monday as it prepared for a court challenge to have it removed.

"It's rude, it's crude, it's disrespectful, it's racist," said African National Congress secretary general Gwede Mantashe at a post NEC briefing in Johannesburg on Monday.

He said if it had been a white man depicted, the reaction would have been very different. As far as many people were concerned, black people were just objects, he continued.

"I said how about the idea of going to court tomorrow and as we sit there we can take off our trousers... we can walk around with our genitals hanging out... it's crude," he said.

The party was going to the South Gauteng High Court on Tuesday to try and compel the Goodman Gallery to take down the painting, and City Press to remove a photo of it from its website.

"We have not outgrown racism in our 18 years," Mantashe said.

He believed there was widespread condemnation of the painting and felt it was polarising society along racial lines. The only threat to freedom of expression was people who used it without understanding it, thereby destroying it, he said.

Comments
  • edwin.cloete - 2012-05-21 11:19

    lol

      TSOTSI Smilification - 2012-05-21 11:20

      The ANC are trying to silence artists! They are a dictatorship! How is it racist if many black people don't find it offensive! ZUMA must step down in shame, he is disrespectful to woman and democracy in SA!

      Frank - 2012-05-21 11:25

      LOL indeed! So painting a black man these days is deemed racist. What next, are they going to try and sue us for our thoughts as well? What a bunch of morons the ANC turned out to be!!

      espanyol.mpumi - 2012-05-21 11:28

      The ANC is just confused. Its time we have a new party for all races!

      Rudi - 2012-05-21 11:32

      SOmething to ponder about:If this was a painting of Hellen Zille would the reaction have been the same? And would the painting then be called 'The Shield'? Dear Mr. Zoomer, you brought this over yourself. Your polygomous lifestyle as well as fathering children outside of wedlock while sleeping around and thinking a shower will prevent you from getting AIDS is what made us lose respect for you. Not this painting. This painting just confirms how people portray you. You, and ONLY you, created this perception amongst educated South Africans that you are a womaniser. We do not have any less respect for you because of this painting. In fact, you are being flattered.

      Justin - 2012-05-21 11:33

      and we pull the race card out again!!!!LOL pathetic

      mnbain - 2012-05-21 11:37

      http://curatorofsex.com/russias-first-sex-museum-and-a-painting-of-pu I think its really a size issue

      Squeegee - 2012-05-21 11:39

      Oh yes, play the race card rather than deal with the issues. No one would ever do a painting like this of Oliver Tambo, Nelson Mandela or even Chris Hani - why not? Because they did not live their lives in a way that called for this sort of social commentary. Zip-it-up Zuma brought this on himself by his lifestyle; it has nothing to do with race.

      Bryan - 2012-05-21 11:42

      What a pity that in the entire deck of cards that the ANC hold in their hands, all of them, including the joker...Are race cards!!!

      Ronald - 2012-05-21 11:43

      "We have not outgrown racism in our 18 years", quite correct, Mantashe, you haven't and won't until you stop using it as a reason and excuse for everything that is not to your liking. Please, it is time to get over your inferiority complex as it is the only thing that stands between this country and greatness.

      Marion - 2012-05-21 11:44

      @TSOTSI Smilification - 'he is disrespectful to women' - in what way? Because he married so many of them? Because of his responses when he was accused of rape by one? Some artists need to be silenced. @margie - where have the values gone? Good question. We should ask all those (male and female) who engage in casual sex, extra marital affairs, get divorced, use their children as pawns in the divorce, have casual sex while trying to find another partner etc., where the values have gone. Have heard a lot of things about him, but have never heard that JZ abuses his wives and children.

      Gary - 2012-05-21 11:50

      Nothing else to say than LOL....................I've seen the painting and it's more like being GENEROUS than RACIST.

      Andres - 2012-05-21 11:57

      It is disingenuous to equate any artwork portraying an African leader as a direct attack on an entire race. This displays not only ignorance, it shows a lack of ability to constructively criticise a work-of-art we may regard as crude, in an intelligent manner. Just as a naked portrait of any European person is not an attack on the entire Caucasian race... it's simply ludicrous. We're using a race card way too often and its losing both its ability to convince intellectual Africans, but just like crying wolf, eventually even the less-educated will listen. The painting may not be in good taste, however as Tselane Tambo pointed out, his lifestyle brought about the inspiration for the work of art, not the other way around. Now, conservative Africans hit back at her, calling her a coconut. How terrible has the mindset majority become, that no African has the right to differing or laterally-minded thinking, without being extricated from the collective? This is proof the ANC claims divine right to what is African-correct-thinking and what is African-foreign-thinking. I may not necessarily agree with the crudeness of the artwork, but the blunt reactions of the ANC, BMF, COSATU shows there is a definite intolerance for alternative opinion, especially when those expressing opinion are the same skin-tone as them and whom they claim intellectual ownership of.

      Rob - 2012-05-21 11:59

      Racist. Not ! The taxi association demanding that White & Indian traffic officers not confront their taxi's IS racist though ! No comment from the cANCer on that. Yep I'd like to sit down @ Wimpy or Spur & have a nice blonde, blue eyed, well spoken, " alert " waitress serve me in my language of choice too !

      Loo - 2012-05-21 12:12

      Sure is an ugly thing that's sticking its head out now :)

      Alan - 2012-05-21 12:16

      Surely the painting will not be used in the next General Erection?

      Alan - 2012-05-21 12:22

      I wonder if the court will decide that the painting is disrespectful and give it the chop?

      raath - 2012-05-21 12:28

      "Eish, I don't understand this satire thing, it must be racist"

      Mark - 2012-05-21 12:29

      Oh Brilliant..... now it's the race card again.... When will you wake up and realise this has NOTHING to do with race.... When you're trapped in a corner and run out of answers it always has to go back to race.... Please...Try and be more original... the race card is getting stale now!!!!

      Razz - 2012-05-21 12:29

      I think, for a man that was married six times and have 21 children does his BALLS still looks in good shape. Many women will harass him now for his SIZE. Lol :-)

      Merven - 2012-05-21 12:35

      It is normally the biggest racists that shout racism.

      CliveK - 2012-05-21 12:39

      @Marion: Surely by sleeping with women outside the marriage, and fathering children with them, he is being disrespectful to his wives? And isn't this emotional abuse? The man is a philanderer and will continue to be one, even if he had as many wives as Mswati.

      Antin - 2012-05-21 12:59

      "traces of racism" in the artist's work? Better that truckloads of crap in the ANC's "work" -for lack of a better word.

      Rodney - 2012-05-21 13:04

      RUDI Painting Helen would be difficult as she is a woman but she has got what Zuma has not, I don't know how to describe IT but IF she were a Male id say shes GOT BALLS

      Freddie - 2012-05-21 13:16

      Gwede... pot, kettle, black... make a sentence. The biggest racists in this country are the ANC itself.

      Rudi - 2012-05-21 13:17

      @Rodney - Well, that's true!

      GrootWitHaai - 2012-05-21 13:48

      Eets reseest. The shlong is not bleck enough.

      Gonani - 2012-05-21 14:18

      He is the head of state you idiots! Don't you that he stands for you in the international community. Insults directed at him would shame not only him but the whole nation.

      Freddie - 2012-05-21 14:37

      Gonani, Zuma shames himself pretty well without any assistance from anyone else. He may speak for ANC sheeple, but he certainly does not speak for me on any level, internationally or nationally. Calling those who differ from you 'idiots' does nothing to foster open debate, it only shows your intolerance and limited dialogue capacity.

      Jarryd - 2012-05-21 14:42

      "He said if it had been a white man depicted, the reaction would have been very different" - Yes. Because there are no paintings of naked white men, therefore this is racist! [/very dry sarcasm]

      Frank - 2012-05-21 15:15

      Michaelangelo sculpted the world famous "David" with his giblets hanging out in pure white marble. Was he also a rascist who tried to insult King David (Arab darky)? Does Zuma also want to be done in pure white marble by the artist? Is the painting not good enough? Is Zuma so sensitive that he cries softly in bed at night? See Episode 2 next week.

      Kirsten - 2012-05-21 15:38

      Marion pls just don't pose for a similar image! Even if you do have the hots for Zuma!

      Nina - 2012-05-21 15:48

      I don't care much for art or Zuma. But I do not see how the painting is racist. Nude paintings have been around for decades, I think the problem here is that we know the guy in the painting and he is the president of the country...it is disrespectful in that regard. And it would be disrespectful to ANY (black or white) person we all know. The race card doesnt apply here.

      Bob - 2012-05-21 15:58

      “”Stand aside folks...race card coming thru...........””

      Sharon - 2012-05-21 16:12

      these clowns are trying to cover up bad government by blaming it on racisism,if they did their job properly and stopped stealing then there would be nothing to paint about,so stop blaming whites for your incompatence and start looking at yourselves

      Shnez - 2012-05-21 16:29

      Regardless of whos painted! The artist should have gotten consent from that individual to portray him/her like that! Thats how it works in the art industry!

      frederik - 2012-05-21 17:45

      That a painting can lead to the downfall of a president!!! That must a first!!! Zuma has fallen into his own spear.....

      Mc - 2012-05-21 21:40

      Remember Sarah Baartman was paraded naked in the streets of London. This is racist, Stop seeing blaks as objects.

      seymour.howe - 2012-05-21 23:32

      of course Ayanda Mabulu can't be racist in her artwork of Zuma's penis because she's black???? http://ridwanlaher.blogspot.co.uk/2012/05/should-anc-sue-artist-ayanda-mabulu-for.html

      Denise - 2012-05-22 00:41

      Nobody needs to attack Zuma’s “dignity”… he is doing a mighty fine job of it himself. In my opinion the painting of Zuma is quite good. There are much worse pictures of him around dancing in animals skins. At least Brett Murray portrays him as a bit sophisticated wearing a western suit and the glasses on his face indicates some level of education. He is being portrayed as Mr. King Dingeling Zuma, sophisticated and learned. So what is all the fuss about? Is Zuma complaining or bragging?

      Preshen - 2012-05-22 08:27

      It is only racist because they made him a size small in the painting

      Klippies - 2012-05-22 10:11

      I wonder if the artist painted him as a white person if there would have been such a fuss?

      Edward - 2012-05-22 14:01

      Rude, crude, even lude. But how is it racist?

      Tony - 2012-05-22 16:53

      @Marion,impressed by the size? hoping to be his next? Why should the artist be silenced? because you don't agree? maybe it's you that should be silenced.

      Derek - 2012-05-23 09:07

      You are quite sick aren't you Tyron? Why bring zille into it, she is not involved and does not behave like Zuma. Are you angry that a woman is doing such a fine job? Fool!

  • Timothy - 2012-05-21 11:20

    The painting is definitely crude... not racist tho...

      JohncarlosBiza - 2012-05-21 11:43

      Zuma's sexual escapadea are a lot more crude

      julia.ntuli - 2012-05-21 11:44

      I agree, its crude but has nothing to do with race. I hate that when everything else fails people throw race into it just to cause division and racial tension. Come on Mantashe come up with a better defense than "it's racist" this country is tired and has had enough of race battles!!!!

      Sean - 2012-05-21 12:06

      It's just a Richard Cranium with his Richard hanging out, nothing more. FFS, what about all them Roman and Greek nude marble statues? Or how about all the nude photographs or anything else that falls into the "nudism in art" category. ANC grow up you bunch of racist retards. You are your own worst enemy, all we have to do is watch you lot destroy yourselves

      Alan - 2012-05-21 12:11

      I have not seen the painting, and would never have heard about it if the ANC had not made a big fuss. Does the painting not depict the president as the true Upstanding Member of Society that he is? If this goes to court, will the President have a leg to Stand on?

      Gichumz - 2012-05-21 12:17

      https://www.facebook.com/BrettMurrayForSAPresident

      Pieter - 2012-05-21 16:35

      How can it be racist? Who said it is Zuma? Did the painter say so? No!!! Did Zuma say he posed for the painting? No!!! Who said it is a black man? Did the painter say so? No!!! Can you see from the painting that it is a black man? No!!! Why not? Because the main color of the person is yellow, not black. The shadows are black but all people's shadows are black. Shadows do not come in white even for white people. So, why does it offend black people if it 1. cannot positively be identified as mr. Zuma? 2. cannot positively be identified as a black man? What if it is an Asian man? They are closer to yellow than a black man?

      Sean - 2012-05-21 22:14

      Maybe one should ask the ANC , what is not racist that comes from a white man ??????

      Papa-storm - 2012-05-22 07:34

      was wondering when this painting was going to become racist

      Tyson - 2012-05-22 19:39

      i am getting all sort of ideas. i think the paint is going to depict naked Zille breast feeding the Tea girl rotten fat whilst she is pragnant, carrying white people in her belly. the next pic will show Zille naked holding toilet sit while being fck by toothless coloured from cape town.

  • nickey.vanrensburg - 2012-05-21 11:21

    "The only threat to freedom of expression was people who used it without understanding it, thereby destroying it, he said." ...... Says the Hippocrates !!

      Tony Lapson - 2012-05-21 11:27

      I see what you did there... Instead of fat cats, they are now hippo-crates.

      Alan - 2012-05-21 12:13

      A Hippo Crate bigger than a Pot of Mouses?

      Gichumz - 2012-05-21 12:18

      https://www.facebook.com/BrettMurrayForSAPresident

      Tamaranui - 2012-05-21 12:25

      Continue sowing seeds of hatred....You will reap what yous sow in due course. With freedom of expression comes responsibility which none of yous understand.

      Alan - 2012-05-21 12:35

      yeah - you see ANC - even Tamaranui agrees - stop sowing the seeds of hatred with your blaming everything on racism because you are the drivers of racism. Whenever something does not go your way or becomes a crisis demanding action, you become unaccountable and blame racism, apartheid, etc etc. I have a question - it the painting is censored and removed - is that indicative of a form of dicktatorship?

      Peter - 2012-05-21 12:46

      Tamaranui - Well done on taking the exact same double standards that your precious ANC takes. You saying its Racist makes you just as guilty of "sowing seeds of hatred"

      Tyson - 2012-05-22 19:40

      i am getting all sort of ideas. i think the paint is going to depict naked Zille breast feeding the Tea girl rotten fat whilst she is pragnant, carrying white people in her belly. the next pic will show Zille naked holding toilet sit while being fck by toothless coloured from cape town.

  • Loo - 2012-05-21 11:21

    RACIST ??? Dont white people have penises too ??? What a load of BS. It is symbolic for petes sake. Its well known that he likes random casual sex. If he was painted with small ears because he doesn't listen .. problem ??? OH and Racist would have been a painting with a small penis surely ( chuckles)

      Alan - 2012-05-21 12:14

      Could the artist not just paint the penis pink? I won't have a racial issue, I promise!

      Gichumz - 2012-05-21 12:19

      https://www.facebook.com/BrettMurrayForSAPresident

      Alan - 2012-05-21 12:23

      @Gichumz ... get a life somehere else.

      Tyson - 2012-05-22 19:47

      i am getting all sort of ideas. i think my next painting is going to depict naked Zille breast feeding the Tea girl rotten fat whilst she is pragnant, carrying white people in her belly. the next pic will show Zille naked holding toilet sit while being fck by toothless coloured from cape town.

  • Marianne - 2012-05-21 11:22

    Of course they will...lol

      Tyson - 2012-05-22 19:46

      i am getting all sort of ideas. i think my next painting is going to depict naked Zille breast feeding the Tea girl rotten fat whilst she is pragnant, carrying white people in her belly. the next pic will show Zille naked holding toilet sit while being fck by toothless coloured from cape town.

  • sapepa.sapepa - 2012-05-21 11:22

    I will be the first to admit that Zuma is incompetent and corrupt amongst other things. But he is still human, and like everyone else, he deserves the right to dignity. Since when did freedom of expression become more important than the right to dignity? For a second lets imagine that this happened to someone else. If someone painted Helen Zille with her vagina hanging out how would we react? Let’s not let our moral compass be distorted just because of how we feel about Zuma. That’s someone’s (21 people to be exact) father, husband and an elder to most of the people in this country. This is just like what happened to Sarah Baatman, exposing someone’s gentiles for other people’s amusement.

      Loo - 2012-05-21 11:26

      If Helen Zille openly stated through action or otherwise that she is pro random casual sex,, it would have been an acceptable symbolic too. OH and for petes sake .. IT is NOT HIS genitals... No one made a clay model of it and then painted it .. ITS SYMBOLIC,, NOT a photograph. THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN PORN BTW.. and again not racist... geeeeee whizzzzzz (oops wrong word there)

      Jacqui - 2012-05-21 11:34

      Sapepa a vagina hanging out, how is that possible?.

      Gichumz - 2012-05-21 12:19

      https://www.facebook.com/BrettMurrayForSAPresident

      monkinsane - 2012-05-21 12:33

      @Madiba - You racist bastard.

      Peter - 2012-05-21 12:35

      @Madiba - Speak for yourself... apparently a painting of your own parents makes you think of masturbating over it.... Thats sick dude, get some help

      stephenyoung101 - 2012-05-21 12:36

      Who decides what is offensive? Anti Apartheid art was considered "offensive" by the apartheid government. Art has always received special protection for this very reason: "section 16(1)(c) of the Constitution states that everyone has the right to freedom of expression, which includes ”freedom of artistic creativity”. It is true that no right is unlimited but even where the right to free expression is limited an exception is usually made for artistic expression. Our law often distinguishes between real depictions of individuals and art works and hardly ever allows for the censoring of the latter" - Pierre de Vos http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/on-the-president-his-penis-and-bizarre-attempts-to-censor-a-work-of-art/ Oh and by the way there is a world of difference between forcing somebody (Sarah Baatman) to stand naked in public while people inspect them and painting a picture of a dirty old man's (JZ) willy.

      wesley.bischoff - 2012-05-21 13:02

      Lol @ lacoste... you crack me up

      Sharon - 2012-05-21 13:30

      Helen Zille will laugh her head off when she reads here that people are discussing her vagina.

      Sigil - 2012-05-21 13:49

      It actually happens to people all the time. Throughout the ages there are depictions of people naked.

      Tyson - 2012-05-22 19:45

      i am getting all sort of ideas. i think my next paint is going to depict naked Zille breast feeding the Tea girl rotten fat whilst she is pragnant, carrying white people in her belly. the next pic will show Zille naked holding toilet sit while being fck by toothless coloured from cape town.

  • Herman - 2012-05-21 11:23

    Only the most pathetic amongst us uses the race card.

      Sganja - 2012-05-21 11:32

      Yes Brett is a racist,maybe they should paint your father.

      Herman - 2012-05-21 11:40

      aaahh wannabe fidel, you still here.....trolling along as always My father would have laughed his a$$ off if he could see how zuma is perceived

      Bryan - 2012-05-21 11:44

      Picking up stompies again Sganja...Hello daar:-)

      Tamaranui - 2012-05-21 12:26

      Continue sowing seeds of hatred....You will reap what yous sow in due course. With freedom of expression comes responsibility which none of yous understand.

      Felix - 2012-05-21 12:30

      Sganga, is that you Gwede?

      eil33nn - 2012-05-21 12:33

      @Tamaranui, what resposibility comes with freedom of expression?

      Peter - 2012-05-21 12:36

      Tamaranui - Well done on taking the exact same double standards that your precious ANC takes. You saying its Racist makes you just as guilty of "sowing seeds of hatred"

      Tamaranui - 2012-05-21 12:44

      @ Eil 33 whatever, I know yous know nothing about democracy , it is as new a concept to you as to us however we seem to realize their are responsibilities as a Adult. Yous need a lesson in how one's actions effects many. If you don't understand this then might as well head back to school.

      eil33nn - 2012-05-21 13:00

      @ Tamaranui... Strong argument starting with whatever. ALL actions have an effect. I know alot about democracy and how it works... Read up on the art revolution, industrial revolution...What Pres Zuma is doing is trying to opress someone because his feelings got hurt. (Boo-hoo, here is a tissue). Doesn't sound very democratic? There comes responsibility with having unprotected sex with a friends daughter...He made a mockery of himself...and he must take it like a man.

      Herman - 2012-05-21 13:27

      @ bambanani, it isn't my fathers genetalia in question, but those of one of the biggest criminals SA has ever seen and blind people like you don't see how he is recking your future.

      Wade - 2012-05-21 14:00

      Tamaranui. You talk of going back to school? Have you ever been to one? Yous? wtf is that? Yous? Do you even know what that means? What do you know about Democracy? This whole race card is the first card to be played in this country. I'm sick and tired of everytime something happens, a white person is called racist! Is BEE not racist? Giving a black man a job because he's black, but un-qualified over a qualified white person who was maybe but a small child during apartheid and had nothing to do with the oppression felt by the black people, yet...he suffers because he is white and the black people have the audacity to call him racist?!? Get over yourselves. The more you black people play teh race card, the more you make us white people want to be racist! The same thing with the painting. Had i seen it once, i wouldn't have cared for it. I would have wondered why someone would waste the paint. But because of all the fuss caused by the ANC and government, i keep looking at the painting and boy is it growing on me! Now, i happen to quite like the painting and i'm now routing for the artist to win this case. Us sowing seeds of hatred? The only people who are showing any hatred right now are the ignorant black people who don't know the difference between fact or fiction, photo or painting, depiction or illustration. I Suggest Tamaranui (Not your real name i am sure) That you go TO school...your first time i assume!

      eil33nn - 2012-05-21 15:55

      @Christopher...I never said i have an issue with cultures. What you believe in is your business. Not mine. And i can tell you now, Madiba would cry his heart out if he heard you speak like that. You have a long road to recovery...

      Tyson - 2012-05-22 19:43

      i am getting all sort of ideas. i think the paint is going to depict naked Zille breast feeding the Tea girl rotten fat whilst she is pragnant, carrying white people in her belly. the next pic will show Zille naked holding toilet sit while being fck by toothless coloured from cape town.

  • E=MC2 - 2012-05-21 11:24

    AND THERE WE HAVE IT LADIES AND GENTLEMEN... It took, what, 5 days to be called racist. If something has to be "rude", "crude", and "disrespectful" to be branded racist then just about every taxi driver is racist... oh wait! By asking for only blacks to hand out tickets they've pretty much said that... Get over yourselves ANC... yes the painting in my view is dumb, but really now. Can you honestly tell me that JZ didn’t have a good old laugh when he saw the painting for the first time? Just another excuse to bring up your 2 favourite words... 'racist' (& sooner or later), ‘apartheid’.

      Peter - 2012-05-21 12:38

      You act surprised... you forget Racism is a white person thing, and occasionally an Indian person thing. But Never a black thing, black people cant be racist thats like saying the ANC are finally going to deliver, it will never happen

      E=MC2 - 2012-05-21 12:46

      SA - the country of double standards.

      Peter - 2012-05-21 12:57

      SA - The country where the majority fears the minority for no reason for the past 18 years

      eil33nn - 2012-05-21 14:25

      @Christopher Agreed to let us stay? And between me and you, There is also Xhosa, Sepedi, Sesotho, Venda, ect ect cultures. NOT just the Zulu culture... And you afford us rights? WELL, how very generous of you...

      ilzeb - 2012-05-21 14:53

      @ Christopher "still use the oppressors language" Is jy getik in jou kop? And yet you type in English a language the Brits brought into this country and who also oppressed black people. IS JY STUPID??? Now don't get me wrong I love English prose and poetry IT IS ART. If you made any attempt to understand "caucasian" culture you will understand art.

      Christopher - 2012-05-21 15:28

      @ilzeb art is not Caucasian culture you numbskull, cave paintings are art moron.

      ilzeb - 2012-05-21 15:46

      Unfortunatly that is the only art that count in this country apparently we have no rights to have art??? I am sorry I will let paris and rome know that they are exibiting junk as CAVE paintings are sooooooo much more important!! O and THANK YOU soooooooo much for letting us stay you are so generous, why don't you ship us caucasian people off and see what happens then to you economy, who is going to make sure the ANC have funds if they don't have anyone to corrupt!

      Christopher - 2012-05-21 16:08

      @ilzeb LMAO you have an extra chromosome, at least now I know that racists are retards. If you think art originated in Rome or Italy I truly and honestly feel sorry for you (read a book). So I need to end this conversation cos they day I get corrected by a retard it will be hot day in the south pole.

      ilzeb - 2012-05-21 16:27

      You are the retard you cant even read the comment properly!!! I never said it art originated in Europe you twit!!

      eil33nn - 2012-05-21 16:43

      @ilze, he can only insult you and not take on your comment...don't get all hot and bothered by this troll

      talana.greenshields - 2012-05-21 23:04

      @Christopher... did you know that Liverpool is European? And the language you're typing in is English... a European language? Here's an idea: if you're so against us "retarded" Caucasians. Then you should take a very deliberate stand and get rid of everything European... including technology, medical advancement, education and our art... go on... Don't be a hypocrite.

  • Charles-Bronson - 2012-05-21 11:24

    Now the race cart again. Loosers!! Can't your morons not event another name!!

      marschoeman - 2012-05-21 12:12

      Talking about morons: Now the race (card) cart again. Loosers!! Can't your morons not (invent) event another name!! The second sentence is also a double negative (Can't ... not) Please man. Before calling people morons, make sure you are not talking to a mirror... I do agree that this is stupid though. There goes more of my tax money. (Which could have been used to pay the SANRAL loan.)

  • Thermophage - 2012-05-21 11:24

    what the :| Have these chops even looked at half the paintings of naked white people in European art galleries? :|

      Peter - 2012-05-21 12:40

      That would require the ANC to be interested in education, and its pretty obvious from recent news they are far from interested in educating anyone let lone themselves

      Christopher - 2012-05-21 14:08

      This not Europe bud, its Africa

      eil33nn - 2012-05-21 14:26

      yes Christopher, this is Africa, thus the naked pictures are being painted of black people...

      ilzeb - 2012-05-21 15:08

      You are damn right this is not Europe, if it was we would all be happy and yet here we are in Africa where the ANC believes only they matter. (not even their own people who vote for them can get clean water to drink) YUP definitly not EUROPE!

      Christopher - 2012-05-21 15:42

      @ilzeb RSA will never progress as long as we have people like you, in Europe they don't want you racists. I guess that the reason they are progressing. The reason why I love Heathrow is that they don't allow your type to set foot in England. Lucky Brits. ANC bluh bluh ANC *rolling my eyes* next election the ANC will win AGAIN. One day we will have the right president who will get rid of all you racists.

      eil33nn - 2012-05-21 15:56

      @christopher, Why attack me? I attacked your comment, no need to get personal. Play the ball, not the man

      ilzeb - 2012-05-21 16:19

      Christopher you are such a hypocrite!!!!!! You are THE racist nitwitt (nitwitt as in you, not your race)!!!! (o sorry i forgot black people can't be racist)

      ilzeb - 2012-05-21 16:29

      O and by the way there are alot of white south african people in England. That is probably your dumbest statement yet.

  • terence.wessels - 2012-05-21 11:25

    Pathetic,uneducated,totally racist moron ANC bleating about racists again. Its the only card u got you idiots. You have done nothing but stuff up this country. Please people, we need new leadership before its too late. Vote in a competent set of leaders. This lot will destroy us all *spits in disgust*

      Dexter - 2012-05-21 11:33

      100% correct

      Tamaranui - 2012-05-21 12:27

      Continue sowing seeds of hatred....You will reap what yous sow in due course. With freedom of expression comes responsibility which none of yous understand.

      Peter - 2012-05-21 12:41

      Tamaranui - Well done on taking the exact same double standards that your precious ANC takes. You saying its Racist makes you just as guilty of "sowing seeds of hatred"

  • Attie - 2012-05-21 11:25

    gwede stop using the race card all the time. that is the biggest problem in this country. all you idiots can see is colour. forget about colour and treat people as a human being and not colour. that is why you guys will never get on par with the rest of the world which you are trying to do so hard, but because of always blaming every thing on being racist you guys will never get their. grow up and forget about white and black, but start thinking about fellow human beings.

      salani.hurgovich - 2012-05-21 11:47

      so anyone who doesnt agree with ur views is either uneducated,adiot.stupid or fool,really its how u rate other human being?

      monkinsane - 2012-05-21 12:38

      @Salani - If the shoe fits..... The only thing the ANC does when it finds something or someone it does not like is call it racist. Yes, it's crude and disrespecting - but didn't Zuma bring that on himself? Maybe if he behaved with some dignity, he will be portrayed with dignity. You reap what you sow, and he is reaping what he has sown.

      Wade - 2012-05-21 14:05

      @Salani - Where did Attie dictate that everyone else who doesnt agree with his views is uneducated, an adiot (i am sure you meant idiot here) or fool? He never rated human beings, he merely gave a view which many share. The black masses are the first to cry foul and racist blah blah blah, yet they are the most racist lot. Gravy train, BEE, fat cats. All terms that we have gotten to know since the ANC got into government. BEE i a prime example of Racism! If you can show me where the White people are making a stink about the BEE status that is affecting our country emotionally and financially, i will concede to your "Uneducated" view!

      Merven - 2012-05-21 14:15

      'so anyone who doesnt agree with ur views is either uneducated,adiot.stupid or fool' Only if they vote for the ANC.

      Sharon - 2012-05-21 16:35

      the anc and co will never be on par with the rest of the world because of the christmas break ----------------------------------------three weeks and they forget what they did the previous year and so have to start over

  • notshokovu - 2012-05-21 11:25

    \Lets take our trousers off 4 our president.\and walk around.

      karen.bridgeford - 2012-05-21 11:32

      I lOve it!!!!!! Had a good chuckle you have made my day!

      Wade - 2012-05-21 14:06

      I would, but i'm afraid i might feel a little inadequate after seeing the prez's thing...thats a monster!

      Kirsten - 2012-05-21 15:42

      humour isn't race specific! I applaud u Notshokovu! I'm laughing my ass off here

  • carpejugulim - 2012-05-21 11:26

    oh yay the powers that apparently be are getting nervous ... the race card has been drawn

  • gregory.jurgens - 2012-05-21 11:26

    Next it will be a legacy of apartheid, then the third force, NEC should stick to what they good at , eating cake.

  • Cape - 2012-05-21 11:27

    Smacks of desperation; ANC is the biggest racist party in the world, where else would a political party accuse an artist of racism; ANC, the joke is one you, losers!

  • dave.leverton - 2012-05-21 11:27

    "We have not outgrown racism in our 18 years," Mantashe said. No you haven't.

      Alan - 2012-05-21 12:27

      why should they - along with the Apartheid card, the Racism Card is the good old faithful "Go To" card....

  • ntsanen - 2012-05-21 11:27

    truly speaking that is his "spear". LOL

  • daniel.motlhatlhedi - 2012-05-21 11:28

    It is racist how can you disrespect sum1 like that.

      Koos - 2012-05-21 11:30

      Uhm, disrespect? That is what he is, that is what he does. I see nothing but the truth.

      Tony Lapson - 2012-05-21 11:34

      Offensive? Yes. Racist? No. This impression of Jacob Zuma exists as a result of his own past actions. Many people already see Mr. Zuma in this light because of his admissions during his trials before presidency. The artist simply put it in one picture. A shocking painting, but a free expression.

      Martin - 2012-05-21 11:41

      nope, read the definition of racism,its purely fredom of expression, and before you argue its abuse of that freedom....freedom is freedom, there are no different levels of freedom. like when i say jacob is wouldnt even make a good door stop,and painting him posing as a communist with his junk out, thats disrespect....but before you argue that one, jacob is not my president, i may make use of his land to live off, but i do not recognise him, nor any government whatsoever as any kind of authority, if i called you that word you wouldnt wanna be called, or didnt give you a job based on skin colour, thats racism.

      Lourenzo - 2012-05-21 11:45

      He deserves all this

      Loo - 2012-05-21 11:51

      Respect is EARNED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Thando - 2012-05-21 12:01

      Daniel what is the definition of racism? it's disrespectful i agree but racist? no

      Tamaranui - 2012-05-21 12:27

      Continue sowing seeds of hatred....You will reap what yous sow in due course. With freedom of expression comes responsibility which none of yous understand.

      Other - 2012-05-21 12:32

      Offensive and disrespectful, YES! Racist, HOW????? When people don't know how to debate/argue a point, the same sad old card is used, the racist card, pathetic!

      monkinsane - 2012-05-21 12:44

      Daniel - it's crude and disrespectful - not racist. Disrespect and Racism are 2 seperate things.

      Peter - 2012-05-21 12:44

      Tamaranui - Well done on taking the exact same double standards that your precious ANC takes. You saying its Racist makes you just as guilty of "sowing seeds of hatred"

      Wade - 2012-05-21 14:16

      Disrespect and racism are 2 different things. I can disrespect a white man...does that make me racist? no. If a man like JZ who is a ruler of our country gives cause to someone to disrespect (and i will agree, the painting is disrespectfull, but funny as hell) then, freedom of expression allows for that painter to show the depiction of what he has heard or seen. JZ is a slut and as such, the humour comes into play with this painting. It's disrespectfull, but it doesnt matter what colour the subject is. Look at Bill Clinton. Had he been our prez, then the artist would have drawn him like that...don't fall into the pitfall your fellow country (wo)men have fallen into and play the race card. It really has nothing to do with it. If JZ were a better prez or could keep his monster in his pants, then what would there be for our artists to draw and make fun of? Look at Shapiro for example..is he racist? No, he's drawn white people in exactly as degrading portraits as Zuma..it's just that Zuma gave him a lot more opportunities to make fun of him.

  • nikondaniel - 2012-05-21 11:28

    Clearly no one in the ANC understands "Art"

      Cape - 2012-05-21 11:30

      or racism.

      Wade - 2012-05-21 14:17

      @Meneer and CAPEGTOWN.....LOL...your both right. But shh, now were being racist for saying that!

      Cape - 2012-05-21 14:20

      @Wade - If it was up to the ANC, all whites were born racist.

  • anthro45 - 2012-05-21 11:29

    I must say, I was waiting for the race card to be played. If all else fail, throw in the race card.

  • eil33nn - 2012-05-21 11:30

    Love the fact that even our President jumps on the racism horse. Just say you are offended by it, buy soem lego blocks...(maybe duplo blocks) build a bridge AND GET OVER IT!

  • ziphok1 - 2012-05-21 11:30

    This man should have know that this will go down to be about race. This painting didn't help much for a healing nation. Boy I hate all of this.

      Wade - 2012-05-21 14:19

      I agree. It's not good for us, but it is art and there is freedom attached to it. We cannot let government dictate the terms of freedom of speech and so it has been made a bigger deal than it should have. I wish we could heal, but not if the ANC have to keep playing the racist card all the time. It shows they aren't willing to heal then.

  • samuel.chari - 2012-05-21 11:30

    Why are South Africans so afraid of racist comers? Imagine that racist provocation happening in Zimbabwe !!

  • Michaele - 2012-05-21 11:30

    Now we can all see the weapons of self destruction!!!

      Stacey-Lee Yates - 2012-05-21 11:48

      Being mature enough to take a giant step back from the fast moving spiral down into racism and the stench of hatred, we will see that people of different race, culture, color and gender are uniting together to reveal values once hidden under cobwebs of negativity. Mr President, lead us through this moral dilemma, by showing us you care more about uniting us as a nation rather than driving a wedge between us to satisfy an ego. We now look to you and your team of leaders for guidance to lead us as a rainbow nation through this moral dilemma. Thank you

  • nikondaniel - 2012-05-21 11:30

    We should all draw a picture of our favorite politician with his/her genitals exposed and post on a Facebook group!

  • clourens - 2012-05-21 11:31

    And again everything turns out to be racist wtf... Catch a wake up!!! I have seen plenty paintings around the world of this sort of genre and I don't see president bush or president Clinton crying like little babies and do you know why? Because they had bigger fish to fry like running a country which the ANC sould start doing!!!!!

      ziphok1 - 2012-05-21 11:42

      I just though for where we come from as a nation people will be lil bit carefull. But hey thats was just me a Zulu boy worried too much.

      mark.ross.779 - 2012-05-21 11:51

      But Ziphok1, this has nothing to do with where we come from as a nation.. Its a painting of a man with a penis hanging out his pants. Penises hanging out of suit pants have absolutely nothing to do with our past. I don't see how penis and race go together. If we really need something to complain about with the painting why aren't people saying its sexist? That's clutching at straws anyway, but it makes a hell of a lot more sense than the racism claim

      Loo - 2012-05-21 11:54

      WELL SAID .. that ONE MAN and his painting can become a ruling parties biggest focus just shows you how much idle time they do have. Did Clinton sue anyone when he was depicted and illustrated as the BJ king ??????

      ziphok1 - 2012-05-21 12:11

      Mark thats true but if a lot of people especial blacks feel that way it became a problem. And what ever way you look at it ANC wins, because for them race is only thing they have to hold on to power. Think about it.

      mark.ross.779 - 2012-05-21 12:31

      Fair, it was always going to cause some uproar.. but its a sad sad state of affairs when we actively have to refrain from making use of our Constitutional rights just because we want to let sleeping dogs lie. Yus, SA has so much tension boiling under the surface it's scary.. It sounds terrible but here's hoping it ebbs out over time rather than boils over, and that sadly means we'll have to deal with these issues for a long time still

      Wade - 2012-05-21 14:22

      @ziphok1 - You cannot afford in a growing democracy to be carefull. Then we are not a democracy, but a regime. If you lived in China..you would be carefull, but then again, they would hang you for painting something like this about their leader. If the ANC get away with shutting our artistic youth over some "small" painting and ego's get in the way of allowing us to grow, then we should all worry and perhaps a little Zulu boy who worries too much is right to worry? I would.

      jaco.duplessis2 - 2012-05-21 17:12

      Ziphok1 - I totally agree, this stupid painting will not do our country any good. Freedom of art my ass - we all have a responsibility to try and heal the country - he should have known that this will become a racial issue. I'm also of the opinion that the title/office of president of a country need some respect - even if you don't respect the person that hold such position. This painting has serious negative implications for the image of the country. I'm all for freedom of speech, etc. - but this painting is idiotic and nothing positive can come from it. So, congratulations to our artist - you have all the attention now, but the country loses all the way!!

  • kabelo.leballo - 2012-05-21 11:31

    lmfao lol.. what a joke!

      Poloyatonki - 2012-05-21 12:09

      I didnt get it..

      Alan - 2012-05-21 12:28

      Poly - you off course? of course you are.

  • Koos - 2012-05-21 11:31

    Oh, the race card. Never saw that one coming :P

      Loo - 2012-05-21 11:54

      Hehe ... liar liar pants on fire

  • Dexter - 2012-05-21 11:32

    The ANC can turn white and brown bread into a racist argument. Wow you guys are extremely sensitive!! If anything, Zuma should be proud that the painter gave him such a huge #$%$ :)

  • Jacqui - 2012-05-21 11:33

    Well you can't blame Mantashe for his usual load of bull. He has never heard of Ayanda Mabulu who probably has more brains in his little finger that the whole sorry tribe of idiots at ANC headquarters. Racism is something they eat and breed, that's for sure. Sorry sods.

  • Wimpie.Haefele - 2012-05-21 11:33

    Everything they don't like or when do can't defend their view they play the race card. ANC please grow up

  • eugene.lategan - 2012-05-21 11:33

    What a load of BS..get over yourself Zuma. Now imagine the artist painted a shower head instead of a penis..hmmm..can only imagine where that would end up...sounds familiar somehow...

  • Loo - 2012-05-21 11:33

    """" He believed there was widespread condemnation of the painting and felt it was polarising society along racial lines """" NOOOOO !!! singing "kill the boer" did that. OH wait ,,, you saw nothing wrong with that Mantashe did you ??? huh

      Alan - 2012-05-21 12:43

      who condemned the painting? Looking at the world press, seems like a lot of people appreciate satire.

      Wade - 2012-05-21 14:25

      and yet Loo, odd enough, but us white people are racist. I always sing "kill the Boy, rape his maid and massacre his tsotsi children" when i go to parties...i forgot we had a whole book load of inherited war songs that demoralised and berated an entirely different ethnic group. YUP...were the racists!

  • lmadikwe - 2012-05-21 11:33

    Headlines were bombarded by Julius Malema then Richard Mdluli and now the Zuma painting. Huuuuuuweeeee!!!!!!!

      DrGonzoSA - 2012-05-21 13:18

      Three cocks making headlines

  • Ofentse - 2012-05-21 11:33

    LMFAO....hahahaha

  • Matthew - 2012-05-21 11:33

    Wow...in a really disturbingly pathetic way,i'm not surprised. leave to the anc to pull the race card YET AGAIN!!! WHEN ALL ELSE FAILS,BLAME RACISM,USE THE RACE CARD,it always works when there's nothing else you can do to get your own way. Pathetic to quote "We have not outgrown racism in our 18 years," Mantashe said." Yes thats right.the anc still pulls the race card and yes,there is alot of racism still around.but to say its all whites that are the racists is bullsh*t. to say this painting is racist is bullsh*t.to say the anc does not hold racist hatred towards anyone white that opposes them,Bullsh*t.

      carpejugulim - 2012-05-21 11:49

      wait for it Matthew ... the apartheid card comes next

  • Keg - 2012-05-21 11:34

    espanyol.mpumi We do ;)

  • Martin - 2012-05-21 11:34

    oooh yeah race card, means they have no other means of intellegence, its rayyyysiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiist. F.O. Anc. im gonna keep my copy fo life and pass it from generation to generation mocking jacob til jesus comes

      Jacqui - 2012-05-21 11:43

      Samuel tell me when a white man paints a painting not to your liking you call it racist. When a black man paints a painting of Zuma worse than thagt of the white man you keep quiet. Now is this becasue anything white is automaticaaly condemned by you or is it that you are ignorant about what a black brother painted and you just grab every opportunity to spew your hatred of whites?.

      HugoMabasa - 2012-05-21 12:55

      this has more to do with the fact that some whites despise african culture not because of Zuma's antics.for example,the french are known for their aggressive sexual behaviour(promiscuity,adultery,etc) but because they are considered to be from a superior culture,this is accepted .Some women even fantasize about french men,hell we even have french kiss,french langerie(sp?)etc.But sexual immorality is sexual immorality.What white South Africans will do is they will (consciously or subconsciously) link any thing to our blackness and africaness.Whites should accept our culture because we accepted theirs (e.g homosexuality).The logic behind the acceptance of homosexuality is.WE DONT CARE WHAT CONSENTING ADULTS DO!question is,did Zuma force the women to marry him?no did he rape anyone?no is he a womanizer?YES are the women old enough to consent to sex?yes,so why do people judge the man?where do you find strip clubs and brothels? where do you find nude beaches?who goes to nude bars/clubs? but all become holly when a black man does the same and find it funny and justifiable to denigrate him and his culture?I get reminded of Biko who warned agaisnt LIBERALS!!! beacause they have told themselves that they are liberal they refuse to concede that by growing up in a racist society (and weaned on racism,apartheid!) they may not have subconscious racism.My advice to White South AFricans is continue fanning the fires of hatred,a time will come where some of us will step aside and let those w

      HugoMabasa - 2012-05-21 12:56

      who see things differently to us step in,ask the 'Rhodesians'

      Alan - 2012-05-21 13:54

      Eish Hugo .. very uninformed and one sided comment there. One could ask for example "which population group has the highest HIV+ rate in the World, and Why?". Even our President admits to unprotected sex outside of his marriages to a HIV+woman. So I don't think the whole furore about the painting is aimed at anyone other than the president, who certainly behaves outside of the accepted norm (even in Africa) when it comes to 'relationships'.I see your type as one of SA's biggest problems - you cannot see past black and white, and will condone any black behaviour. The ANC continually plays the 'Race' crad instead of being accountable for it's failings. Like many white peope, there are a lot of black people that just want to get on with their lives, and have good governance. When you make your pathetic racist comments, it is you who is fanning racial diiscontent. Grow up, get with the program, and save your energy for positive change. Wat are you so angry about anyway? Like all of us - you are responsible for your own destiny. In life, there is nothing for nothing. You have to work for everything.

      Sigil - 2012-05-21 14:06

      @HugoMabasa I understand what you are saying, but a criticism of Zuma is not a criticism of his race. Imagine a world where we cannot criticise someone because of their race, even if they are wrong. This is a criticism of Zuma as a public figure. I hate racial stereotyping as much as you do since I am constantly being sterotyped for my race too.

      Wade - 2012-05-21 14:35

      @HugoMabasa - what a cock! The french are constantly portrayed as a love forlorn, yet romantic race. I know not of this "Aggresive Sexual behaviour" you talk about. I dont often if ever hear of th frenchman in court for serial raping woman? I hear that mainly about...oh yes..black men. You say you accepted us white people and our ways like Homosexuality? Really? Homosexuality is a white thing? Really? It's not in my culture to walk down the road, holding another mans hands? I know it's in yours and in all honesty, i hear many stories about black men raping other men. Accepted homosexuality? I think you embraced it with open arms!!! The world evolves. AS it does so, so should it's people. Your culture has some tendencies that are outdated and need to evolve as well..such as having 6 wives and sleeping with woman outside your marriage. These are no longer accetped norms internationally, and they should not be accepted here. A president, should lead by example. Leading by example reminds me as well. The modern world tells of how medicine and i have to assume that after all these years, millions of scientists with BILLIONS in funding can't be wrong when they come up with medicine and answers to the worlds dilemmas, such as AIDS. If they say AIDS exists and is uncurable - for now- then we should understand and accept and try to spread the message. AS president, you shouldnt argue that AIDS does not exist and then say that taking a shower will cure you!

      HugoMabasa - 2012-05-21 17:52

      Wade On a side not,with reference to scientists not being wrong ... eh Dr Luc Montagnier(nobel prize for role he played in 'discovery' of hiv) says hiv cannnot be the only cause for the immune failing!so those who were talking about co factors were right after all!

  • Chris - 2012-05-21 11:35

    Mantashe said: "We have not outgrown racism in our 18 years,". Should read: "We, the ANC, have not outgrown our racism in 18 years,".

      Jacqui - 2012-05-21 11:44

      Should read: We the ANC have every intention to keep racism alive no matter what.

      Alan - 2012-05-21 12:44

      for sure - it takes the focus away from our failings in Govt. It's like a get out of jail free card.

      Alan - 2012-05-21 14:01

      Hugo - go back to school or something. This is an adult site. Apartheid died 2 decades ago. What on earth are you on about now? If you want to get p*ssed off about anything - look at a Govt. that has plundered all the country's resources for much self gain, yet delivered very little. It's comments like yourse, that fan fires of hatred which can only result in everybody losing.

      Wade - 2012-05-21 14:47

      @Hugo - The only fanning of flames here is coming from you. You talk as if you threaten the whites with war. You know what i say? What will be will be. There have been wars before and most of them over greed or race. Maybe we are heading to it, but i can assure you, that it would be the greatest mistake this country will ever make. The white people won't take it lying down...trust me, we will fight and we may be outnumbered...but then again, we have an advantage over embeciles like you....brain power!

  • wayne.s.coetzee - 2012-05-21 11:35

    Is it racist when 1000 black Zulu girls dance for the Zulu King every year with their breasts exposed? That's also rude, crude and humiliating. Oh but wait, that's a cultural right, right? Hypocrisy is rife in a male dominated world.

      carpejugulim - 2012-05-21 11:52

      definitely racist when genitals are exposed whilst urinating on the side of a public road too

      Tamaranui - 2012-05-21 12:29

      Learn RSA culture before posting utter rubbish. It exposes your lack of education regarding RSA cultures. Continue sowing seeds of hatred....You will reap what yous sow in due course. With freedom of expression comes responsibility which none of yous understand.

      eil33nn - 2012-05-21 12:44

      @Tamaranui....I haven't seen one white man stop ON THE HIGHWAY to take a piss? Regardless, it is disgusting... And what do we need to know about RSA cultures? You want to live in a first world country with third world mentallity. Learn what is sociably acceptable to the rest of the world and then come and comment...

      Peter - 2012-05-21 12:44

      Tamaranui - Well done on taking the exact same double standards that your precious ANC takes. You saying its Racist makes you just as guilty of "sowing seeds of hatred"

      IcemanGP - 2012-05-21 12:57

      @Tamaranui, well then, guess you better stop posting crap then. As the medium you are using is a western invention.

      eil33nn - 2012-05-21 13:10

      @Tamaranui..OH COURSE YOU JUST WANT THE TECHNOLOGY...BUT THAT COMES AT A PRICE... I am white, but born in Southern Africa...THAT makes me AFRICAN! I like my culture and i respect yours. I never took a slanderous stance against your african beliefs. Have you ever tried to learn in what i believe? NO, so don't judge.

      Tamaranui - 2012-05-21 13:21

      You say this yet you behave like a Non- African. You speak of Polygomy and rapist etc. yet My President has not broken any laws contracry to the Constituition or been found criminally guilty of these charges. Read up on Old shcool Zulu tradition and educate yourself on African culture. You would like to be areal RSA however your actions and words indicate another tune.

      eil33nn - 2012-05-21 14:37

      @Tamaranui, BUT poligamy is against our COMMON LAW and yes CONSTITUTION... Yes, criminally he has not been found guilty based on those. But my opinion of his is mine. And you go on as if that Zulu is the only culture that matters...

      Wade - 2012-05-21 14:54

      @Tamaranui - You just said it..."Old School" If you like your traditions so much, then go build your mud and crap huts in your kraals, go herd your sheep and have 7 wives. But this is a modern world and times have changed. You want all the luxury that comes fromt eh white mans inventions, yet you want to retain your own cultural beliefs. You cannot have both. The modern civilised world doesnt allow it. You shoose one or the other. Go back to the bush where you originally came from, or live in the modern world with new cultures acepted to all, not just white South Africans, but the international market! If you want the world's luxury's, you got live byt he world's standards. God, you are such an idiot. You preach all these falsehoods in the hopes that it makes you look like a good little zulu maiden, you want the best of both worlds...it's that thinking of self entitlement that we see everyday in our news...your leaders, raping our country and taxes for personal gain! Giving jobs to family that are unable to do the job. Your "culture" as you call it, is leading the decline of this once beautiful country's sustainability and soon we may be nothing more than another Zimbabwe or Ethiopia! What a retard!

  • deon.vanrhyn - 2012-05-21 11:35

    so if the painter happend to be a black person would u still say its racist?

      lynn.barrett.35 - 2012-05-21 12:31

      Google Ayanda Mubulu 'un-mute my tongue" He painted both Jacob Zuma and Desmond Tutu showing their genitals. This painting is far more Graphic and done by a black person in 2010. There was no outcry then.

      HugoMabasa - 2012-05-21 13:06

      NO.but he would have been taken to court non the less.Racism is when one culture considers itself superior to the other and actively denigrates and humiliates the other.racism exists betwwen groups of different races.

      Alan - 2012-05-21 14:02

      kind of makes you two-faced eh Hugo.....

      eil33nn - 2012-05-21 15:04

      http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/racism?s=t rac·ism [rey-siz-uhm] noun 1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others. 2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination. 3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races. Hugo, i didn't see any mention of humiliation in that dictionary...Superiority, yes. So you are halfway there

  • johannduplessis - 2012-05-21 11:36

    http://picardfacepalm.com/picard-facepalm-hotlink.jpg

  • tobydt - 2012-05-21 11:37

    And out comes the racist card.

      Poloyatonki - 2012-05-21 12:12

      Remember you people invented everything including the race card...

  • Victor - 2012-05-21 11:37

    It took them a long time this time before the race card was shown, it must have been too early in the mornong for them.

  • Boitu.m - 2012-05-21 11:37

    ...and then they pull the race card... *sigh*

  • MarkSchrade1980 - 2012-05-21 11:38

    Was waiting for this typical reaction and was so not disapointed

  • The-third - 2012-05-21 11:39

    ag really now? i don't think I care... hmm, no, I know I don't.

  • James - 2012-05-21 11:39

    I was under the impression he was somewhat better endowed.

  • Nockx - 2012-05-21 11:40

    @ news24 Why are you still running this story? Aint there other important staff to write about? Please enough