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ANC claims Zille intimidated protector

2012-06-03 16:06

Johannesburg - The ANC in the Western Cape said Public Protector Thuli Madonsela had been intimidated by Western Cape Premier Helen Zille, according to a Sunday newspaper.

On Friday, Madonsela cleared Zille's government of acting unlawfully in awarding a communications tender.

ANC provincial secretary Songezo Mjongile told the Sunday Times the party was disappointed by Madonsela's findings.

Substantial issues had been watered down.

"Clearly the intimidation of the public protector by the premier has influenced this particular outcome," he said.

The party was considering legal action, the weekly reported.

Madonsela said on Friday there was nothing unlawful about the Western Cape government's awarding of a R70m contract to advertising agency TBWA.

She made four findings of maladministration, but did not recommend that the contract be cancelled.

"I haven't made a finding of unlawfulness," she told reporters in Pretoria.

Madonsela found that the tender referred to in the report was advertised, contrary to allegations that it had not been.

Maladministration

With regard to maladministration, she said it was ill-advised to have two of Zille's political advisers on the bid committee for the branding contract. This raised suspicions of political interference.

The protector said the premier's department had failed to employ proper demand management processes and had wasted over R8 696 of public money when two out of three advertisements had to be cancelled because of this.

Zille took issue with this finding, and said the money spent on re-advertising the branding contract should be seen in context.

"We disagree [with Madonsela] that this constituted fruitless and wasteful expenditure, because it must be seen relative to the cost of not re-advertising and potentially compromising the process further," she said.

"To put this amount into perspective, it is about the same we spent flying officials to the public protector's media briefing in Pretoria this morning."

Madonsela received four complaints about the tender, from Mjongile, Sulyman Stellenboom, the Congress of SA Trade Unions' Western Cape provincial secretary Tony Ehrenreich, and the civil society organisation Ndifuna Ukwazi.

Zille said the report found no corruption and political involvement, interference or manipulation in the procurement process.

It also found that she was not personally involved in the procurement process, but in the decision to cap expenditure on communication services in the province at R70m a year.

She said it was found that the presence of the two special advisers - Ryan Coetzee and Gavin Davis - on the tender bid evaluation committee had made no difference to the outcome.

'Storm in a  teacup'

Madonsela found that some administrative processes in managing transversal tenders, those which involved various government departments and strict Treasury regulations, were faulty and that they lacked capacity to manage them properly.

Zille said the provincial treasury had already picked up these faults and that steps were taken to rectify them.

She said the time and money spent on investigating the tender amounted to hundreds of thousands of rands, which could have been better spent on service delivery.

"The entire exercise was a storm in a teacup, stirred up by our political opponents," said Zille.

Comments
  • Ben - 2012-06-03 16:10

    That is what they normally try and now they blame this tactic on the D.A.

      pjcbs - 2012-06-03 16:18

      As usual, the ANC shows their double standards. Sad, really sad.

      Christopher - 2012-06-03 16:21

      We need strong leaders to run this country...not woosies!

      John - 2012-06-03 16:55

      So ANC spend hundreds of thousands of rands to find R8700 was misspent? Really! Are they that desperate to find fault with Zille? No they accuse a party, whom they say is insignificantly small, of 'intimidating' the public protector??? Seriously? And all 3 partite alliance partners (huge in numbers) are b*tching about it! OMG! How screwed up is that? And speaking of 'clear' intimidation- what do they call the marches to an art gallery? How much did the printing of protest banners alone cost? What do they call shutting up city press? Oh, I forget their intention was 'not to bully' - now that makes it all better! They said so! Give me a friggin' break! They're a bunch of clowns! How can you argue with idiocy???

      John - 2012-06-03 17:11

      it was an unfinished report which was mysteriously leaked before a response could be provided you chop! How convenient. I wonder who could benefit from that report being leaked? Ever heard of innocent until proven guilty?

      Tamaranui - 2012-06-03 17:18

      """She said it was found that the presence of the two special advisers - Ryan Coetzee and Gavin Davis - on the tender bid evaluation committee had made no difference to the outcome.""" How is Madonsela sure what was whisered by Coetzee and Davis to other committee members. The fact they were present results in a Null and void Committee and subsequent decisions by the committee should be questioned. Are there no Neutrals in WC ???

      mastersvoice - 2012-06-03 18:32

      Tamaranui - there are no neutrals in South African politics. Its the price you pay for party politics.

      Honey - 2012-06-03 19:07

      I'm just getting so sick of NEWS24 and their a. Inability to edit their articles properly and b. their continuous publishing of articles than incite racial hatred. I look at this article and feel incensed that the ANC amidst all their thievery, corruption, murder and genocidal investment, have the audacity to waste more tax-payers monies looking for some way to nail the only Premier who is actually doing things by the book, running a decent province and hunting down corruption within the cronied ranks. At least NEWS24, put the author of the article and a means by which we can communicate with them. I am on the brink of removing NEWS24 from my list of sites and would suggest that those that agree with me, protest strongly against this sustained racialism.

      henryian73 - 2012-06-03 20:47

      geez thats a bit of a klap in Madonsela's face. Don't think she would allow herself to be intimidated. And the ANC WC is still loosing power by the day. Working with many pdi's and groups and they are changing over to the DA by the day because they are seeing the change and sick of the corruption within the current ANC leadership in the WC and nationally. Zuma, Malema and Fransman clearly no favorites.

      Martin - 2012-06-04 10:10

      when the anc loses an election i reckon we need to be on our toes, cos they wont hand over power peacefully, just as they cannot accept the verdict of the protector

      greeff.kotze - 2012-06-04 12:19

      @Tamaranui - Coetzee was actually of the opinion that the contract should be awarded to a different company than TBWA, but the committee did not see it his way. Now that's a committee with integrity, not mere lapdogs. I would wager money that if every tender in the ANC provinces were scrutinised in the same way this one has been, nearly all of those tenders would have more problematic aspects than this one. But South Africa does not have the resources to do that, so the maladministration continues...

      Jenny - 2012-06-04 16:18

      Funny, but can you imagine if the DA won an election? They ANC would say that all the voters had been intimidated by Zille.

      Kate - 2012-06-05 11:56

      The ANC are more guilty of corruption I agree, but what happened (and is happening) at Chapman's Peak is also rotten to the core. I would love to know just how much Murray & Roberts as well the other companies involved have "donated" to the DA's cause. Politics is dirty, don't trust any single one of them, be it Zuma or Zille. They are all supposed to be public servants. Yes SERVANTS to the public. Never forget that, and never put them on high horses. They will fall off. We voted them there to SERVE us, not the other way around.

      Oom - 2012-06-05 15:18

      The public protector is not an idiot. She comes across as a pretty smart lady. I think that she will not be bent by pleasure of the no good comrades. Thank you Mrs Madonsela for remaining neutral. A rare quality of late I’m afraid..!!

  • Sean - 2012-06-03 16:10

    Obviously these idiots would say that !!

      terry.burne - 2012-06-03 16:52

      @Tsotsi - what tricks with those be - running a CLEAN government. That's a trick that your ANC 'heroes' haven't managed yet - and never will.

      indianajohn - 2012-06-03 19:02

      Every time someone makes a valid point, like terry.burne here has, the ANC supporter, in this case Tsotsi-Baby, disappears. I've never seen any of them answer a question or argue beyond the good point. They rather take up the same stupid argument elsewhere. If this doesn't prove the worthlessness of their case then I don't know what does. They simply CAN'T answer these questions. The crazy thing is that they keep banging the same stupid drum anyway.

      John - 2012-06-04 00:07

      Read Zille's 'tricks': http://www.da.org.za/newsroom.htm?action=view-news-item&id=8369

      Matthew - 2012-06-04 08:59

      @Tsotsi-baby. Dont be stupid.Because even if Zille has tricks,she's still the lesser evil than you Corrupt ANC.they steal from everyone,even you,and you still blindly defend them and kick,scream and shout pointing fingers and blaming white minorities and hellen zille.Wake the F up dude. Stop playing dumb and get smart

      Sharon - 2012-06-04 10:16

      @ tsotsi zille does not have tricks,she has skills and that is something you anc supporters and your precious anc will never have,at least not untill Jesus comes

      Ronald - 2012-06-04 10:25

      If the Public protector, who had the ANC as a whole backing down, and lil old Zille can intimidate her, and the ANC publicly accuse her of this, is it not also an admission from the ANC that Zille is the better person and the DA the better party to lead SA?

      Jacqui - 2012-06-04 12:54

      Tsotsi, you mean to tell me Zille is running the ANC too?. What a clever woman. Go Hellen that lot of overweight idiots hate your guts.They can't be anything other than a bunch of clowns, profiting from the people for whom they do nothing. It must be hard for them.

  • Charnelle - 2012-06-03 16:10

    Intimidated? So easily? Our strong and powerful decision makers, cower at the opposition. ONLY IN SA.

      placebo.effect - 2012-06-03 17:10

      news24 are such sly scum. It says intimated not intimidated. Play on words... No surprises there. Sensationalist headlines galore.

      christian.denyschen - 2012-06-03 17:26

      @tax if only he would migrate back up that butthole he came out of.

      Irene - 2012-06-03 17:33

      Tsotsi-baby is Jan's alter-ego. Such sad little men.

      Charnelle - 2012-06-03 17:41

      @Tsotsi - Relevance? Not quite with you?

      John - 2012-06-03 17:42

      If I was off to Cape Town because of slow municipal delivery in Gauteng, I couldn't care if she called me a service-delivery refugee. It's a metaphor.

      WitWolf - 2012-06-03 18:59

      I see miss Tamaranui and her ayobaness and baby tsotsi still going on with their idiotic antics.

      Nicolaas - 2012-06-03 19:38

      Hi Charnelle, hope you doing well. I see that TAMARA lady Mrs Vinesh Naidoo is up to his tricks again? I am sure he is a she-male and tolli-baby is her boyfriend!

      Charnelle - 2012-06-03 20:04

      @Nicholaas, Tarmaranaaioaasedafdsooo as per usual not making any sense what so ever. Just like the "And Never Could's" allegation of intimidation or intimation.

      Sharon - 2012-06-04 10:17

      @ tsotsi - the way you breed i am surprised you havnt created your own nation

      Jacqui - 2012-06-04 12:56

      Irene, noticed how Jan only comes out the woodwork at the weekends?.

  • roger.hess.14 - 2012-06-03 16:15

    Sorry, but given her track record I really doubt that Thuli Madonsela intimidates very easily.

  • jimzimbo - 2012-06-03 16:18

    I wonder what Thuli's response will be.....this acccusation is an open and blatant attack on her integrity. God help SA....

      Nicolaas - 2012-06-03 19:43

      @Jim, she is such a true and honest lady that she will not dignify those insignificant ALL NATIONAL CRIMINAL PARTY loosers with an answer. Do not worry, they will have plenty to say when she sends them her bill for wasteing her office time and the taxpayers money. I wonder where DIK LYNN BROWN and DOFKOP TONY NOT SO BRIGHT is going to get the money from. Madonsella must demand that they pay it out of their own pockets!

  • cameronjohnprice - 2012-06-03 16:21

    I would like to see the ANC stop trying to be comedians and focus more on the issues in South Africa.

      Nicolaas - 2012-06-05 03:59

      @cameron, they are not rying to be comedians, they are comedians. Tony not no bright Ehrenreich, DIK LLYN BROWN, DOMJELLIE are the main actors! I will not want to watch their comedies, even if they hand out tickets for free!

  • sifiso.wisey - 2012-06-03 16:23

    Sorry ANC, Helen Zille knows how to her job without a bribery or intimidation.

  • sifiso.wisey - 2012-06-03 16:24

    Sorry ANC, Helen Zille knows how to her job without a bribery or intimidation.

  • Adam - 2012-06-03 16:24

    The anc is 100 years old, and the 13 year old DA, has got them all a shivering and shaking. Way to go. VIVA DA VIVA.

      Phillys - 2012-06-04 08:18

      Your point Hugo? ANC has no ex-NP members??

      Merven - 2012-06-04 08:32

      And the ANC is a mixture of criminals and terrorists, so what is your point?

      Juan - 2012-06-04 10:07

      @hugomabasa whateva floats your boat. DA 1 ANC 0

      Sharon - 2012-06-04 10:19

      @hugo and the anc is a mixture the illetirate and the braindead

  • sifiso.wisey - 2012-06-03 16:24

    Sorry ANC, Helen Zille knows how to do her job without a bribery or intimidation.

  • shireen.abbas - 2012-06-03 16:26

    This ANc is really becoming more pathetic by the daY ! The world must be rolling with laughter at us all with this government we all have voted into power ! ANC u lost my vote foreva !

  • Nomfundo - 2012-06-03 16:26

    Thuli who cannot be intimidated by the ANC even when they tried their dirty tricks on her by claiming that her company won a tender fraudulently is now being intimidated by the DA. C'mon ANC, have you ran out of ideas? Are you that politically bankrupt?? Shame on you ANC; Thuli is gonna expose more dirt on you!! Viva Public Protector Viva!! One of the few guardians of our long fought freedom & democracy!! Thuli you are in the same leaugue as Bishop Desmond Tutu; Dr. Mamphele Ramphele, Judge George Bizos, etc.

      Irene - 2012-06-03 17:34

      Luvo ~ Rather refer to Nomfundo as 'someone who uses her brain'. Not everybody is a blind sheep.

      pws69 - 2012-06-03 18:12

      Luvo, your mommy says it is past 6pm, so time for bed. Let the grown ups comment.

      emile.marais - 2012-06-03 18:17

      Nomfundo is entitled to make her own decisions in life. Luvo, who are you to dictate to another person what to think?

      Jacqui - 2012-06-04 13:00

      Nomfundo and more money that could have been spend on job creation, houses and food, will be wasted on a court case because the ANC in the Cape can't accept they are hopeless.

  • Zahir - 2012-06-03 16:27

    The anc must give credit too zille for running a corruption free province they must learn from DA

      Charnelle - 2012-06-03 17:43

      Which article Taranui?

      Charnelle - 2012-06-03 18:26

      "Thus, he was not guilty of excessive monetary claims in terms of the rules of Parliament". It is funny how you contradict yourself once again Tamaranui, are you saying that Parliament is not capable of making a good judgement now? Doube standards my friend, as per usual, things didnt quite work out for you in New Zealand then did it.

      Tamaranui - 2012-06-03 18:40

      hehehehehe....I will leave you with what makes you happy regarding my circumstances, Providing false information for gain is criminal no matter what context. You continually speak of Double standards yet here you condone Van Dyk's antics....Sound like a DA supporter after all.

      Charnelle - 2012-06-03 19:05

      I dont condone anything. Your the one not getting your facts straight. You support the government yet you defy their rulings, I am confused Tamaranui. I thought your the one that thakes every thing they say as Gospel truth and pose a personal attack on anyone who disagrees with YOU.

      Tamaranui - 2012-06-03 19:12

      Seems you did not read the entire article, Let me explain. He was claiming his daughters cost even though the young lady was illegible. That's hand in the jellybean jar. Seems pretty straight forward to me, how about you ?? Would you expect consequences for defrauding your Employer ??

      Charnelle - 2012-06-03 19:28

      Oh Taramanada please lie down before you hurt yourself. Really now, when it suits you, your a joke.

      Nicolaas - 2012-06-03 19:45

      @Zahir, i bet you they even too stupid for that!

      Matthew - 2012-07-19 14:57

      Same Troll.different Name. Tamaranui = victor.tamaranui Trolls should be nuted.News 24 delete this account fo his aswell please. quite funny though.this guy is so desprate to troll,he gets deleted,then creates new account just to troll.you honestly have no life.how pathetic

  • Marco - 2012-06-03 16:28

    i read in a book once about the time america sent food aid to a far east nation.it was in big bags with "from the people of america "on it in english.the russians sent some locals round who wrote "from the people of the ussr" on it in the local lingo. you can say what you like about the reds but they used to have a great subtlety which is lost to modern times

      Marco - 2012-06-03 16:30

      why does the way i spelled subtlety not look right?

      shireen.abbas - 2012-06-03 16:43

      Lmfao !

      Chris - 2012-06-03 18:20

      crap , get it right or clam up

  • Erna - 2012-06-03 16:29

    Given the recent bullying and intimidation of the Goodman Gallery and Citi Press by the ANC it takes one to know one! I suspect Thuli and Helen respect each other as women of integrity and have a great relationship.

  • Erna - 2012-06-03 16:29

    Given the recent bullying and intimidation of the Goodman Gallery and Citi Press by the ANC it takes one to know one! I suspect Thuli and Helen respect each other as women of integrity and have a great relationship.

  • marko.miladinovic.52 - 2012-06-03 16:30

    The masters of intimidation complaining about intimidation. What a lot of clowns, and to think that 65% of the population supports them.haahahaha

      Lacrimose - 2012-06-03 19:54

      The ANC won just under 62% in the last Local Elections, 3% down from the 2006 Local Elections.

  • Vic - 2012-06-03 16:30

    If Thuli Madonsela was that easy to intimidate, then she shouldn't be in position. Whenever ANC loses a case, they find fault. She is doing a good job, so ANC, rather worry about the incompetence of your government, from president down.

  • danny.levin.351 - 2012-06-03 16:30

    Hehe, the pot calling the kettle Black.... They are so desperate to have something to throw at the DA, I almost feel pity for them...

      Martin - 2012-06-04 10:14

      me too, oooh wait, im over it

  • PainPunisher - 2012-06-03 16:33

    I Dearly dislike DA... But ANC is embarrassing now...

      mzuvukile.mbanjana - 2012-06-03 16:47

      I fully agree with you. It has really loss its moral compass. I'm afraid that if it continues in this path, it will steady but surely distancing itself from the thinking South Africans.

      danny.levin.351 - 2012-06-03 17:47

      Why exactly do you dislike the DA? It is the only party that has shown ability to govern without corruption.

      Jacqui - 2012-06-04 13:04

      PainPunisher, the DA won't mind being dislike by the likes of you. Your beloved ANC has always been embarrassing.

  • mzuvukile.mbanjana - 2012-06-03 16:37

    I'm really disturbed by these allegation. They seem to suggest that the public protector is not trustworthy,unreliable and impartial. This is a serious allegation against the public protector. I believe that the NEC of the ANC should call the Western Cape PEC into order. If they are dissatisfied with the findings , let them take the matter to court or other legal institution. We cannot let people to go about and make irresponsible allegation, against a state institution, when its fining or ruling does not favour them. The independence of the state institutions must promoted, respected and be promoted.

      nettie.potgieter.5 - 2012-06-03 17:29

      Lovu Lovu ag shame siestog why being nasty when somebody is more rasional than you

      mzuvukile.mbanjana - 2012-06-03 17:31

      I'm not going to waste my time entertaining your insults. They really don't deserve a response.

      Sharon - 2012-06-04 10:22

      @ mzuvukile, who made the allegations,the anc so take it with a pinch of salt and dont let it worry you cause anything they say is a load of bull

  • mzuvukile.mbanjana - 2012-06-03 16:37

    I'm really disturbed by these allegation. They seem to suggest that the public protector is not trustworthy,unreliable and impartial. This is a serious allegation against the public protector. I believe that the NEC of the ANC should call the Western Cape PEC into order. If they are dissatisfied with the findings , let them take the matter to court or other legal institution. We cannot let people to go about and make irresponsible allegation, against a state institution, when its fining or ruling does not favour them. The independence of the state institutions must promoted, respected and be protected.

  • georgebrightons - 2012-06-03 16:40

    The office of public protector must just shut. Gen. Bheki Cele and ex-minister Gwen Mahlangu-Nkabinde must also intimidate her to clear their names. Zille has bullied the PP from the onset. Please Mr.President just shut that office because it's useless. Zille is corrupt and she managed to intimidate the PP.

      sandy.langenstrass - 2012-06-03 17:00

      This coming from....a typical ill informed...unread....silly fool....one day you will see the chronic state of our land....who will be to blame? ANC GOVERNMENT....and this comment has nothing to do with race...and everything to do with the truth.

      Stlouis Heidtmann - 2012-06-03 17:04

      george you moron pain in the behind corrupt lover hope you burn with the rest of anc dumb@sses viva madam viva da honesty and the ability to run a gov wish the rest of sa could just wake up and not be complete ignorant a holes

      nettie.potgieter.5 - 2012-06-03 17:24

      Don't blame him for being stupit blame the tik his father smoked

      pws69 - 2012-06-03 18:17

      @George, I'm guessing you threw your toys out your cot a lot when your howling didn't get you your own way.

      pws69 - 2012-06-03 18:19

      @Sandra, be nice to georgedullard. It took him three hours to type out that comment. It's not his faulty he was dropped on his head as a baby - 53 times (his father was overheard muttering - I give up, this one is too stupid to die).

      emile.marais - 2012-06-03 18:36

      George, I doubt even you believe in what you typed there... There are people in South Africa who DO NOT want South Africa to be a democracy, that is a fact.

      sharmay.thuynsma - 2012-06-03 18:57

      @george(not so)brightons - are you usually so dimwitted and slow or did you bang your head getting out of bed this morning? I love the fact that you support corruption and lack of integrity in your leaders. I hope you have children that will have to feel the pain of your choice of life for them one day. Your mother must be so proud of who you turned out to be.

      Charnelle - 2012-06-03 20:12

      Tell me George, how did she intimidate the PP? Tell us how?

      Jacqui - 2012-06-04 13:07

      George and being a staunch ANC member you know all about corruption. I won't ask you for examples of Zille's corruption, your pea brain is incapable of such things.

      Nicolaas - 2012-06-05 04:17

      @george, please do not come and display your idiotic eatsern cape education here. Also consider changing your surname because clearly, you are not BRIGHT!More like Goerge DOMTONS, sounds good hey!

      georgebrightons - 2012-06-05 15:08

      I hate corruption, I won't support corruption, I won't vote for corruption. I love peace and equal rights for all! Please better life for all.

      Matthew - 2012-07-19 15:00

      And thats your only response....you are a Lol.

  • Will - 2012-06-03 16:41

    Once again the ANC wants to run to the courts .... Ive seen female chimps with bigger balls! Fight your own battles for a change!

      Jacqui - 2012-06-04 13:35

      Will, the ANC lot in the Cape can't run a bath. All they can do is get their clowns like Fransman to instigate violence and dish out t-shirts.

  • sandy.langenstrass - 2012-06-03 16:42

    Nobody can intimidate this strong lady...Thuli is just an honest lady....which the anc don't like...never mind Thuli, if they suspend you I'm sure the DA would love to have you join them....where honesty is admired.

  • Marco - 2012-06-03 16:42

    even with the lousy education they dish out i think the anc has seriously underestimated the level of intelligence in this country.

  • Adil Smit - 2012-06-03 16:44

    The female City Press editor and female Goodman Gallery owner responded to severe intimidation by several men. That is intimidation.

      Irene - 2012-06-03 17:15

      It sure is but don't forget, they're 'males', definitely not 'men'.

      Charnelle - 2012-06-03 20:11

      Adil, there we go! INTIMIDATION is a common tactic used by ANC in times of troubles. Hence they assume it is the only way used by other parties.

  • darryl.maze1 - 2012-06-03 16:46

    Typical fat pig headed ANC. ANC are the biggest intimidating party. How much did your party pay you?? Songezo Mjongile, you belong to the most corrupt party and for you to say this is just pathetic. Get over it. You ANC fat pigs are just upset because the DA are showing you up. We are and always will be the best run province. All you and the ANC want is to get your fat greasy hands into the money jar. So please you and the rest of your corrupt ANC can P!SS OFF!!

      Pieter - 2012-06-03 18:18

      Remember they all are just a lot of herd boys, dont expect anything clever from them.

  • Ian - 2012-06-03 16:48

    boring, why dont they change there name to 'we cant see'

      Sharon - 2012-06-04 10:26

      if you look closely at the anc leader group and into their eyes you will see that the lights are on but no one is home

      Nicolaas - 2012-06-05 04:20

      @Sharon, really, it pitch dark there because the bulbs are stolen!

  • glen.e.huysamer - 2012-06-03 16:54

    The people in the Western Cape don't care what the ANC have to say, all they do is lie about everything.

      Dean - 2012-06-03 17:18

      Speak for uself. Who appointed u and in who's name do u speak. Shut u mouth if u got no sense to talk about. U next a crush course in how not to generalize in public. But ja we such flavor in live.

      emile.marais - 2012-06-03 18:46

      Dean, yet everyday we generalize each other based on race, sex and political affiliation. I'm a white Afrikaans male, therefore I must be a far right Neo-Nazi racist who believes in racial segregation and -superiority. Never mind the fact I'm in a mix race relationship. That apparently is a gatkruiping exercise to appease the new black masters and nothing to do with love.

      pws69 - 2012-06-03 18:54

      @Emile, :-) Touche

      sharmay.thuynsma - 2012-06-03 19:00

      I'll guess that you don't live there and see how happy everyone is in a region where things actually work properly and the people that were elected are actually doing their jobs. Jealousy makes you nasty ne?

      Jacqui - 2012-06-04 13:38

      Dean, you are the last person to tell someone else to shut their mouth. Go learn English, your version sounds idiotic.

  • aviweam - 2012-06-03 16:55

    ANC people are master intimidaters,if Thuli was easily intimidated she sure wouldn't have slammed the ANC heavy weights like she did (Iam sure she was threatened many times for doing so). Everyday they open their mouth

      Jacqui - 2012-06-04 13:40

      Aviweam, what are you saying?.

  • Lacrimose - 2012-06-03 16:57

    That is a gross insult to Thuli Madonsela. I hope she takes them to court for such a slanderous statement. Easy to throw words around, Mr Mjongile, now substantiate this allegation of intimidation with facts.

      John - 2012-06-03 17:00

      Zille can take those clowns to court for slander. The case was found valid.

  • Amanda - 2012-06-03 17:04

    What a joke!! Intimidate Me Madonsela? No way!! She has proven that she's not afraid of the truth too many times before, however unpopular her findings were. She has backbone and integrity. What a slap in her face! She does not deserve these accusations.

  • Pj - 2012-06-03 17:04

    Freely translated We th anc didn't get our kick-backs

  • Louis - 2012-06-03 17:05

    This is typically how a racist incompetent brain dead organization would respond when they don't have an answer to something that is hurting their credibility. There is just no end to how low they will go. Pathetic to say the least.

      Jacqui - 2012-06-04 13:42

      They are probably still pissed off becasue Zille banned all those expensive lunches they use to indulge in.

      Nicolaas - 2012-06-05 04:24

      @jacqui, Now that you mentioned it, I first thought I was mistaken but have you see that Tony not so bright and lonely, DIk Lyn Brown and DOMJELLIE do look thinner no that they not in charge of WC anymore. Me think they have no money to buy lunch anymore, their feeding trough is empty!

  • Trevor - 2012-06-03 17:08

    Hahahahaha!! Is that the best the ANC can come up with to try to cover their embarassed egg-covered faces? Pathetic ANC.

  • Ditantane - 2012-06-03 17:12

    the DA did say they will take her to court should the report show wrongdoing, but then again everyone has their weaker side.

      Lacrimose - 2012-06-03 17:27

      Correction, Zille was referring to the interim report which was leaked. "disputed several “findings” in the *interim* report. She threatened to challenge these in the High Court unless they were excised from Madonsela’s *final* report, due out at the end of the month."

      ratsaka.eugene - 2012-06-03 18:12

      The office of the premier was cleared by Thuli's office, fair enough. She however found some counts of maladministration in the matter. The DA knew (they actually admitted knowing about this), said nothing about it until it was announced by the PP, where is accountability. If u had nothing to hide Mrs Hellen Gozilla why didn't u tell the taxpayer about this. I think the DA was still trying to find a way to cover this up. Politicians, what a bunch of hypocrites.

      John - 2012-06-03 22:26

      DA was audited, some points were found wanting, they said it will be addressed, what else do you want? Like in any company - mistakes are made then rectified. It doesn't mean it's fraud nor illegal. And that is what Madonsela found. Period. I dare the ANC to allow themselves to be audited. Zille said she would allow herself to be lifestyle-audited and challenged ANC MP's to do the same. Heard nothing since. Now who's trying to hide things?

      Jacqui - 2012-06-04 13:44

      When Zille was meeting Madonsela, Ehrenreich walked in uninvited, Zille got up and left. Once again egg on his face.

      Nicolaas - 2012-06-05 04:24

      @Ditanne, and brightness and intelligence is not your stronger side hey!

  • Ditantane - 2012-06-03 17:12

    the DA did say they will take her to court should the report show wrongdoing, but then again everyone has their weaker side.

  • Coenraad - 2012-06-03 17:13

    The DA will rule this county in 4years\black and white will live in peace in a real de moc ra cy\honesty is the name of this game

      Dean - 2012-06-03 17:55

      U smoking something and u not opening u mouth, that always a good thing if had such bad thoughts. Hahaha. The People of umzansi/ Azania will never ever surrender this beautiful land to white rule Never!! We stand united in One commitment across the continent. On Africa by the Africans, One umkonto One Nation! Madiba lay down the gauntlet saying Never and Never again!! In reference to all and everything that happened to us under colonial and Apartheid rule. Shall ever be allowed Arrogance, self righteousness and conceit are pillar upon which self destruction are build my boy and the DA have it all in huge measure so beware. Next time u wana challenge us or speak up think twice before u write. U are being watch!!

      pws69 - 2012-06-03 18:24

      @Dean, 1. The DA is not a "white party" but completely representative 2. It was not the fact of white rule that was the problem but HOW they did it - and the ANC are well on their way to doing the same thing. Is subjugation acceptable only as long as a black man does it? 3. The DA fought against the Apartheid system for the entire period they existed (1958) to 1994. Today, they still fight for freedom and equality for ALL.

      emile.marais - 2012-06-03 18:53

      Dean why are you so scared of a minority group? Are you that insecure?

      Tax - 2012-06-03 19:41

      Where are you watching from Dean? The tree where you belong?

      Jacqui - 2012-06-04 13:46

      Coenraad, don't worry about Dean's hysterics, He is stupid.

      Nicolaas - 2012-06-05 04:27

      @DEAN, and we stand togheter and kick your useless ALL NATIONAL CRIMINAL PARTY OUT OF WESTERN CAPE FOR EVER! You will be in front, as we strongly protest against idiots like you coming and live of our hard earned taxes!

  • nettie.potgieter.5 - 2012-06-03 17:14

    ANC you got it wrong. Hellen is a iron lady but Thuli is a lady with a iron grip and nobody will intimidate her. Take your false claims and play with your fingers in your own cooky jar.

      Charnelle - 2012-06-03 20:08

      @Nettie, spot on! Both very strong ladies. I also doubt that that was the case. The DA was cleared, simple as that. So common for the ANC to cry fowl play.

  • Bob - 2012-06-03 17:20

    ANC acting like 5 year old kids again…Grow up!

  • willem.wulfse - 2012-06-03 17:22

    Criticism coming from the arch manipulators. "Drop the charges, suspend the prosecutor" etc. All this to ensconce the mastermind and his band of thieves.

  • WitWolf - 2012-06-03 17:29

    Poor anc still up to their accusations because they don't have a hand in the pie to use with their corrupt ways. Always sobbing about money. Greedy fat cat pigs. Want more for themselves while their own people are hungry and without jobs.

  • Tamaranui - 2012-06-03 17:32

    """She said it was found that the presence of the two special advisers - Ryan Coetzee and Gavin Davis - on the tender bid evaluation committee had made no difference to the outcome.""" How is Madonsela sure what was whisered by Coetzee and Davis to other committee members. The fact they were present results in a Null and void Committee and subsequent decisions by the committee should be questioned. Are there no Neutrals in WC ???

      Nicolaas - 2012-06-03 20:20

      @TAMARA, how sure are you that you not stupid!Go back to your rat hole, your 3 faced bastard. Me getting sick of your uneducated comments. Your surely negotiated your way up the ALL NATIONAL CRIMINAL PARTY ass hey!

      Charnelle - 2012-06-03 20:41

      Common tactic of Tamaranaaiaisisisid. As per usual bounces from one report to the next inciting racial hate and vomiting up a race card each time anyone is defiant against the ANC. He has been removed so many times from News24.

      Andrew - 2012-06-03 22:47

      Madonsela is a very professional women. She has continued even after threats from the ANC in the cases she's investigated. ANC are trying to create anything out of this as they're ashamed that nothing came of it. They believe everyone tenders the same as them. Give it up ANC. You're having a bad year already. But show us some proof and maybe get madonsela to talk out. Till them.

      Polotic - 2012-06-03 22:48

      @Tamaranui - You must hate the DA and Helen Zille to not want to face the truth or accept the facts. Legal opinon has it that there is no law that precludes advisors from being part of the adjudicating committee. As such the presence of Coetzee and Davis did not invalidate the granting of the tender to TBW. Madonsela confirmed this. In fact it is reported that one of them actually favoured another tender. All the negative findings were insignificant and of a technical nature.

      Jacqui - 2012-06-04 13:48

      Nicolaas. New Zealand is mostly inhabited by sheep, our troll spend many years there.

  • Fanie - 2012-06-03 17:32

    ....R8000???? And to see how it was spent CANCER blew ~R100000 Bloody hell

      Johann - 2012-06-03 19:53

      I agree, Fanie. What is the threshold value for 'wastage'? These okes are not thinking, at all. Credit to the DA for ONLY wasting R8000. At least they wouldn't be able to fund the GFIP with that.

  • lerato.kay.3 - 2012-06-03 17:33

    Tired of DA and ANC sheep, starting thinking for yourself and stop licking Zille or Zuma's a*#*

      emile.marais - 2012-06-03 18:59

      Lerato with you all the way. Why can't people think for themselves? What is up with that? Why do people need to be told what to think and who to support?

      Johann - 2012-06-03 19:54

      I tend to agree. People in general are dumber than sheep. We get the leaders we deserve.

      Jacqui - 2012-06-04 13:49

      Lerato, why, would you rather they licked yours?. Twit.

      Jacqui - 2012-06-04 13:51

      Emile, only the naive think people can't think for themselves. Or do yout think you are mentally superior to us?.

      emile.marais - 2012-06-04 19:38

      I hope Jacqui. Nothing superior in hoping.

  • niki.wessels - 2012-06-03 17:36

    When will we see the ANC actually attenting to any matter of national importance, rather than window-dressing, street name changing and jostling for places on the gravy train? You could have Helen Zille and Thuli Madonsela... or Jacob Zuma and Richard Mdluli. Use your vote, but don't come squealing afterwards about poverty and oppression because no-one warned you.

      emile.marais - 2012-06-03 19:02

      As long as there is a us/them mentality, this country ain't going nowhere but to hell on Earth.

      Jacqui - 2012-06-04 13:53

      Emile I have a human mentality, does that also count?.

      emile.marais - 2012-06-04 19:41

      Jacqui, I'm Human too, hence my reasoning for not having an us/them mentality in the first place.

  • Fanie - 2012-06-03 17:36

    PLEASE remove the R30 000 000 000 Yearly loss due to embezzlement and maladministration forest from your own eye before you try to remove the R8000 splinter from the DA's

      Johann - 2012-06-03 19:54

      Amen.

      nigel.vanysendyk - 2012-06-04 08:26

      yea, this is all about R8000 alleged maladministration, meanwhile the ANC wastes, steals, & looses Billions, what a bunch on hypocrites

  • pws69 - 2012-06-03 18:10

    Like I said when this first broke, let's wait for the final report. As expected, the Da has been cleared. Of course, it was no surprise to see the infantile, and below average IQ response from the alliance members. If I was an ANC supporter, I would be so embarrassed by the utterances of these alliance members. I would seriously reconsider my membership, not waiting to be painted with the same brush.

  • johann.h.haggard - 2012-06-03 18:14

    Songezo Mjongile ....ANC pot calling kettle black....and since when has your party been spending money on service delivery...Only service that our taxpayers monet serves...is to pay for all the legal fees towards you bunch of Fraudsters..