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ANC denies 'ghost member' reports

2012-10-12 13:27

Johannesburg - The ANC denied a report on Friday that ghost members were included in the audit of a Mpumalanga branch to boost support for President Jacob Zuma.

"We will not give credence to a report like that, because we know that it simply cannot be true," African National Congress spokesperson Keith Khoza said.

The Mail & Guardian reported on Friday that an anti-Zuma group in Mpumalanga accused provincial and regional party leaders of colluding with auditors to inflate membership figures.

According to documents reportedly seen by the newspaper, more than 2000 ghost members in the Bohlabela region were added to the final audit, which the ANC headquarters conducted in August.

The audit has a direct bearing on the ANC's national conference in Mangaung in December, because provincial membership determines the size of each province’s voting delegation.

According to the ANC's constitution, at least 90% of delegates at the national conference would be from branches.

Each branch in good standing would be entitled to at least one delegate.

ANC secretary-general Gwede Mantashe told the newspaper that he had not received any complaints about the auditing process yet.

He would not comment on the documents as he had not seen them.

"A person might give you fake documents. When people go to a conference they become desperate... If there are queries, why are people not raising them with the auditors and the organisation?" he asked.

"Why would you be regarded as a genuine member if you take internal matters to the media? I am responsible for these kinds of queries.

"It seems people are now replacing my office with the M&G. Once people behave that way, we suspect they are being mischievous," Mantashe said.

Comments
  • Bra Tebzaah Sibilanga - 2012-10-12 13:33

    Corrupt anc dogs,now they are inflating numbers so that they vote for that sex machine called zuma.2014,you will not get my vote you rotten anc.

      john.kirkwood.9619 - 2012-10-12 13:41

      all ministers of the anc are ghost members

      winifred.watson.9 - 2012-10-12 13:42

      Not even dogs are corrupt like the current ANC. It has got to a stage that everything they come out and state is virtual lies lies lies. They are all a bunch for dysfunctional corrupt liers and nothing, and I mean nothing they will ever say is be taken as the truth. I certainly hope that jesus comes very quickly because its time for this lot to visit the devil. Where are the GOOD ministers in the ANC, why dont they come out and speak, have they been corrupted or are they too scared of zuma.

      matshobana.siziba - 2012-10-12 13:44

      If ANC can do this to its members what of the rest of South Africans during general elections, where they know the majority may not be interested in them. I always encourage people to take note of weak signals.I am not saying these allegations are true neither 'am i saying they are not. Jus an eye opener.Gwente is being conveniently dumb here..how can he expect pple to report riging by his party to him. You may be the rigging spin doctor who knows! http://www.facebook.com/MzansiPolitics

      warren.rodel - 2012-10-12 15:43

      @lightman - what revolution you fool?

      shimeAschendorf - 2012-10-12 17:22

      Vote DA bru

  • bennie.kruger.5 - 2012-10-12 13:35

    "The Turd Force !!!

      thethird.wors - 2012-10-12 15:01

      hEHEHEHE... I like it!

  • jack.kukard - 2012-10-12 13:38

    Whats new , according to these idiots we don't have any problems , water , sewer . roads , health , crime , corruption...sigh , the list is endless

      lightman.austin - 2012-10-12 14:10

      you are the idiot, of coz we dont have these problems except corruption

      camp.j - 2012-10-12 14:13

      @lightman apparently we have a problem with education and ignorance too.

      warren.rodel - 2012-10-12 15:45

      @Lightman - and reading previous articles about governing this country and the current ongoing problems you fool.

  • camp.j - 2012-10-12 13:40

    If they can inflate membership numbers, they are capable of rigging an election. I wouldn't put either past them!

  • hitting.thefan - 2012-10-12 13:41

    By hook or by crook, that is the Zuma administration so what is new here. If the head is corrupt then the body has to be!

  • Shaun McDermott - 2012-10-12 13:41

    deny deny deny

      warren.rodel - 2012-10-12 13:51

      and lie, lie, lie, what ever will be next?

      warren.rodel - 2012-10-12 14:57

      @janine - HAHAHAHAHA Brilliant!

  • david.diale.75 - 2012-10-12 13:41

    u can fight to each other but u can't c our vote,come 2014.

      andrew.surtees1 - 2012-10-12 13:53

      buddy get a education, no wonder this country cant function properly! you can like to spell and make sentence nice cant you ha ha!

      camp.j - 2012-10-12 14:32

      @Lightman If you are an example of the quality that comes out of Wynberg Boys then something has clearly gone wrong with the school

      Gatvol Griet - 2012-10-12 14:49

      Andrew, dude, this guy is against the ANC you chop! Anyway, it's get aN education.

      warren.rodel - 2012-10-12 15:52

      @lightman, I wouldn't carry on tuning the way you are, especially if you show where you come from, just because you didn't pass doesn't give you the right to drag your school down with your low knowledge and moral, I doubt they would give you a respectable reference. Only people with good integrity should comment here, not people like you.

      JamesMWood - 2012-10-12 17:26

      Jamba, didn't quite catch the sarcasm did you

  • warren.rodel - 2012-10-12 13:49

    typical....cANCer

  • christiaan.niekerk.5 - 2012-10-12 13:50

    would make a cool movie, mission impossible 5 - the Ghost member report! hahaha

  • andrew.surtees1 - 2012-10-12 13:50

    ANC are scrap and not because of their colour but because of their corruption! vote for change note for colour people!

  • doctorate - 2012-10-12 13:50

    Thats true i've seen it in my branch mangweni tonga ward 5 it hapened we wer removed as anc members bt we didnt knw until the day we wer supose 2 eleect sum 1 contest as councilor in ward 5 mangweni mpumalanga our names wer nt there i dont knw how and y. All those who wer oposing that councillor wer automatically removed as anc members and i dont blame my fellow comrades is tru tru tru

  • lvhukeya1 - 2012-10-12 13:51

    MAFIA style nd corruption will deffinatey guarantee ZUMBA a 2nd term.

  • doctorate - 2012-10-12 13:52

    Thats true i've seen it in my branch mangweni tonga ward 5 it hapened we wer removed as anc members bt we didnt knw until the day we wer supose 2 eleect sum 1 contest as councilor in ward 5 mangweni mpumalanga our names wer nt there i dont knw how and y. All those who wer oposing that councillor wer automatically removed as anc members and i dont blame my fellow comrades is tru tru tru and de wer new members who i've never seen them b4

  • Gatvol Griet - 2012-10-12 13:53

    Or maybe, Mantashe, they just don't trust you.

  • hamilton.tshepo - 2012-10-12 13:55

    The fact is ANC will never get my vote, even if JZ is out of the picture.

  • gavin.taylor.79 - 2012-10-12 14:00

    ANC Denies......which really means "Oh **** we've been rumbled again, give us a chance to find the best excuse"

  • ndlovuvincent - 2012-10-12 14:02

    Things like this will always leave u with some questions in respect of previous elections results.I have a lot of respect for this Mantashe guy.He is in the wrong place.He can maintain his cool and does not throw his words unnecessarily like other politicians who try hard to impress the audience or the masses.

  • eric.f.moloi - 2012-10-12 14:10

    Champs @ inflating

  • jimmy.ngwenya.94 - 2012-10-12 14:13

    i wudn,t put past them.no wonder they were arrogant enough to say anc wil rule til jesus comes

  • alu.rakhivhani - 2012-10-12 14:16

    I can believe it, people of Mpumalanga are thiefs, they stole exam papers, they even stole Limpopo's land, it won't suprise me if they interfere with the results

      JanGrimbeek - 2012-10-12 14:24

      alu.rakhivhani, So you actually say they are stupid as well, who in his right mind would steal anything from Limpopo ?

      siphom.mnguni - 2012-10-12 17:00

      @janGrimbeek:)the guys or girls or both who dumped the books instead of delivering them stole something from Limpopo or not.

  • firstseed.mbeva - 2012-10-12 14:25

    Anything is possible with the dubious ANC.It reminds me of the late WWF Eddie Guerrero's song: "I lie, I steal, I cheat".LOL

  • denis.dendrinos - 2012-10-12 14:33

    "We will not give credence to a report like that, because we know that it simply cannot be true," African National Congress spokesperson Keith Khoza said. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The sky is purple with green polka dots and not blue because we know that it is simply not true says the dumb idiot

  • Gatvol Griet - 2012-10-12 14:39

    Surely they just enrolled the ghosts from the government's payroll.

  • nicholus.mooketsi - 2012-10-12 14:46

    now you know why Zuma said ANC will rule until the return of Jesus Christ. that guy is an idiot. Who in their rightful mind would vote for ANC.

      musawakhe.ngubane - 2012-10-12 15:01

      You have lost your mind. Can't you remember how many people voted for the ANC in the last general elections? Do I need to remind you? 12 million voters. Now, ask you stupid question again.

      warren.rodel - 2012-10-12 15:03

      uh...ANC members that get given false promises.

      sihlangu.hokweni - 2012-10-12 15:18

      You! @musawahe.ngubane are intolerent

      sihlangu.hokweni - 2012-10-12 15:28

      This 'Till Jesus come'thing will hasten His coming just like 2cANCer hotshots asked for their 'DAYS IN COURTS'

      Montagnes.Bleues - 2012-10-28 21:42

      Have you noticed how many black pigs are flying in South African skies these days, admittedly a lot paid by tax payers funding - but it sure heralds in the 2nd coming.

  • musawakhe.ngubane - 2012-10-12 14:46

    Bloody idiots! They don't even understand how auditing of members is done in the ANC. The SG is responsible for auditing. What has this to do with M&G? Bloody counter-revolutionaries! Those comrades are just playing games. We are ready for Mangaung, we have not been pausing for cameras shouting for changes that will never happen, we have been working, building the movement. We've got the winning cards!

  • morris.khunou - 2012-10-12 14:53

    The DA can fake racial unity and parade the likes of Mazibuko, dance and chant freedom songs and immitate every little thing that makes the character of anc. But it is our daily experiences with you guys that counts. the kind of comments, insinuitions and blatant insults and generalisations of another human race dont do you any favour.MANY WHITES BEHAVES LIKE THEY HAVE CHOSEN TO BE BORN WHITE?

      warren.rodel - 2012-10-12 15:02

      I didn't choose to be born white, but please send me the menu when I get reincarnated, and I'll also choose to be born rich and live in Hawaii. Did you choose to be ANC? or where you born ANC? You have the right to choose after birth, even after 21, its like AD but different.

      cazlinbouwer - 2012-10-12 17:40

      and being ANC is a choice to be corrupt or no wait its in their blood

      Montagnes.Bleues - 2012-10-28 21:48

      Morris, turn the other cheek - we won't slap it like your compatriots and masters do - not even with rubber bullets. There are already so many fine competent qualified black men and women working alongside us each day it is simply unbelievable that you all continue to laud and elevate the trash that has been done so blatantly the past 10-15 years. Stand up and be counted amongst the 'human race' of SA - IT IS TIME.

  • lesegojaden.katong - 2012-10-12 14:55

    Mr Keith Denial Khoza. enough said

  • teddy.beer.319 - 2012-10-12 15:31

    The disease bedeviling 'the party' is a disease called Malemaosis. Once it seizes you, you are immobilized and locked in perpetual denial, you see ghosts in broad daylight wanting to finish your political career, rubbish comes out through your mouth, nose, and your eyes see dirty schemes everywhere. The ultimate result can be death by mysterious shootings or a total collapse of your thinking and productive capacity. It seized some in the ANCYL and they never recovered even with intensive rehabilitation.

  • crystal.core.5 - 2012-10-12 16:24

    Says a lot about lack of faith people carry in you and your department and the people are turning to M&G out of desperation to get heard. Corruption is so indemic that people dont even bother to report crimes to the officials anymore - this is the culture the ANC have created. I guess you are only one secrecy bill away form stopping that for good huh?

  • ivan.schoultz - 2012-10-12 16:56

    "It seems people are now replacing my office with the M&G. Once people behave that way, we suspect they are being mischievous," Mantashe said. hmmm ... I doubt it. I don't know their internal machinations, but this springs to mind: A) If he was any good at his job, the people would know that he is the man to turn to and is "the route" for internal procedure AND that they get results from him, therefore they would not need for any alternate solution. B) Since they are not turning to him it's because they have heard too many stories from disappointed colleagues and contacts to know that "the route" does not work. C) They know from their own experiences that "the route" does not work, and they say as much (and not *only* to internal.) What's left: go external, enter M&G. The way I see it: the only "mischievous" one is he who is trying to cover his political butt by deflecting and blame-gaming.

      makgopa.mathuleng - 2012-10-14 18:39

      Whom to believe this days? we would like to here reports of ANC from neutral perspective and reliable sources. However, WE should the hand that complain and that which provide criticism. if both hands are not innocent South African should not relly on such data. the truth is far from being told. We should not make this issue a political battle, rather check if Mantashe is a credible leader in the ANC or need to be changed. As South Africans we should worry about the kind debate we engage in day to day conversation. I believe we should give academics of South Africa to bring about sense and add value to this envisages leadership. Jackson Mthembu and Mantashe read from the same book which encaurages them to shift the blame. Ao Mantashe provide leadership please.Professors and Doctors in ANC ust correctly help in this mind games. Its more of the state than individuals.

  • glen.e.huysamer - 2012-10-13 09:26

    Denial, Denial, Denial Liars, Liars, Liars LIIIIIAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!! It seems the NEW KING OF THE ZULU's has support from his ghostly ancestors.....? and a few 'tohkaloshi' freinds.

  • sxp - 2012-10-13 15:34

    Whatta lot of pumpkins these lot are making themselves into. Zoomer has been fleecing the whole country for 4 years and still some think he is the best. Perhaps the best to make sure the looting does not stop. If the ANC cadres had any sense of right and wrong they would beg the other Mbeki brother to become prezident and Madonsela vice prez.

  • NKAISANA - 2012-10-17 14:28

    Mabuza is corrupt

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