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ANC, editors meet over info bill

2011-12-06 08:49

Johannesburg - A delegation of ANC MPs will meet with media editors in Sandton on Tuesday to discuss the protection of state information bill, the party said.

"The meeting is part of the ANC's ongoing engagement drive on the draft legislation," said African National Congress chief whip Mathole Motshekga.

The delegation, led by Motshekga, would meet the editors at Balalaika Hotel in Sandton at 09:00.

On Friday, Motshekga said his party had never sought to impose the controversial legislation on its members and society broadly.

He also claimed that the ANC's detractors had sought to use the process leading to the passage of the bill by the National Assembly to entrench their perception that the ANC was divided.

Two weeks ago the National Assembly passed the bill, also known as the secrecy bill.

Resistance

Last week the Congress of SA Trade Unions (Cosatu), SA National Editors Forum and the Right 2 Know Campaign announced a seven-point plan of resistance against the legislation.

The absence of a public interest defence clause in the bill was a major point of contention, as those who report corruption could face criminal charges.

Broad definitions of terms in the bill - such as what constitutes a matter of national interest - have also been criticised as being potentially detrimental to transparency and government accountability.

The legislation was also viewed as conflicting with constitutionally enshrined rights including access to information, freedom of speech and freedom of the press.

Proponents of the bill argue that it is essential to establish a legal framework for the handling of sensitive state information.

The National Council of Provinces has yet to debate the legislation, which is necessary before it can be signed into law by President Jacob Zuma.

Comments
  • John - 2011-12-06 09:00

    we all know this bill is BS and is only around to protect the cANCer gov.

      Travis - 2011-12-06 10:46

      ANC wasting our tax payers money to get this bill passed, that the tax payers DON'T want in place, so that the ANC can hide their theft of our tax money!!! <------ Now there is irony.

      Servaas - 2011-12-06 11:09

      I doubt the ANC has the intellect to understand the definition of a meeting. Bunch of clowns.

  • Larry - 2011-12-06 09:05

    It will need more than MP's and Editors, to get this bill scrapped. All of civil society must reject it.

  • Comrade - 2011-12-06 09:10

    ANC LIARS!!!

  • Stephen - 2011-12-06 09:19

    The media is the only thing holding this democracy together, now we want to f@#k that up.

  • Jacques - 2011-12-06 09:27

    Go check this out! You might find this interesting. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QihRxLksIIE&feature=youtu.be

  • Andre - 2011-12-06 09:33

    These wannabe dictators are NOT very smart..... They want to rule like Gaddafi and Mubarak by suppressing our freedoms, but look at what happened to those guys, oops. Mr Zuma and others, if you want the spoils of a dictator, be ready for the fate of a dictator, your people will not stand for it.

  • Silvana - 2011-12-06 09:59

    I'm sure the arms deal investigation is going to be scrapped if this secrecy bill is rejected by the concourt. All part of JZ's chess game. He doesn't realise that the purpose of the game is to topple the king.

  • Preshen - 2011-12-06 10:03

    Kill bill 4 : The silence

  • Andre - 2011-12-06 10:04

    The ANC have not met requirements for proper consultation and is now trying to consult after they have taken a decision in parlement. They are just so pathetic and dumb. Point is, if the public do not need to worry that a veil of secrecy will be pulled over ANC conduct, why then can't they just add the protection of the ublic clause? They have proofed in the past, present and future thay can not be trusted and have definite alterior motives. They want to ensure they govern for ever, just like the didctators of Africa. Mbeki tired the same, a third term which is unconstitutional, but wanted to amend the constitution to accommodate him - Big Chief of .....

  • Phumezo - 2011-12-06 10:05

    When we voted for this current leadership we did not vote for it to co-govern with other minority parties or interests groups. We gave it a mandate to fast-track the gains of Polokwane! Why are we being held hostage by those who lost at the polls is still mind boggling! South Africa is a democratic country and if those who wish to govern here must contest it fairly at the polls and not through courts!

      Anthony - 2011-12-06 10:11

      its called democracy -poepall

      Grant - 2011-12-06 10:28

      @phumezo...your leadership did not win 100% of the vote - my leadership won a large number of seats, that gives me a voice, protects the whole country of being controlled on the whims of a dictatorship - which incidentally, protects you as well from your leaders. The fact that your leadership is losing these actions brought through the courts should be an indication to you that your leaders are not doing the hright thing! Don't lose sight of the fact that the ANC were major players in determing the very constitution that your current leadership are attempting to abuse.

      Cameronl - 2011-12-06 10:40

      you are a moron, I have nothng else to say about your comment other than the obvious stupidity of it, go play in the sandpit with your anc

      Rudi - 2011-12-06 11:49

      Phumezo, you are not being held hostage by minority parties. If you understand the concept of democracy, you will know that the rule of law is greater than the people governing. Human rights just bit you in the arse.

      Maai - 2011-12-06 11:51

      Those who "lost at the polls" are the ones that fund this country you braindead moron.

      Andrew - 2011-12-06 11:59

      Phumezo, so why are why is the Labour movement Cosatu and Communist Party in government or are different minorties.If RSA were a true democracy, we would have representation at constituent level not proportional representation where members are beholden to the party who appoints them. If they do not toe the line they are deployed elsewhere as has happened in the past.

  • djmain1 - 2011-12-06 10:30

    "On Friday, Motshekga said his party had never sought to impose the controversial legislation on its members and society broadly." If this is true, why did they force all cANCer MPs to vote for this bill and not to follow their conscience? Why was there no adequate public consultation? Why did they promise to consult after postponing the vote and then never carried that through (in other words, they lied)? Why the rush to get it through Parliament despite obvious discontent from ordinary South Africans? Because they urgently need to cover their corrupt tracks. The cANCer antics being shown up at every turn is REALLY hurting the cANCer. They have to make the reporting of these facts illegal - it is essential to their very survival. Just more cANCer lies - they have proven they cannot be trusted. Phansi cANCer, phansi!!!

      Musa - 2011-12-06 10:45

      Now you are raising all these unfounded allegations. Did you actually read this bill, or you rely on twisted reports by our politician-turned journalists? Did you participate in public hearings in this regard? If you can actually read the bill, you will not believe everything in the media. Editors must voice their concerns with the ANC, and you stop lamenting. This is a chance, or they must shut up!

      djmain1 - 2011-12-06 11:30

      Oh puleeez! That's a read herring. No - I didn't read the bill - I think it should be used as toilet paper and not read. There are enough people and organisations that I do respect that have raised objections to the bill for me to know where I stand on it. I do not have to read it myself. That's like saying you can't be opposed to the AWB because you haven't read their constitution!! Ridiculous argument. Anyway - the cANCer have shown over-and-again that are not to be trusted. When their lips move, they are lying. Phansi cANCer, phansi!!

      Servaas - 2011-12-06 11:35

      Musa: You anc idiot. This bill means if you president whips out his "mshiniwam" and beats you over the head with that thing it is not allowed to go in da nooose pepa,and you are not allowed to say anything. Did I put it simple enough for you anc clowns to understand?? Because if you do not understand that Africa is fu**ed!

  • Julie - 2011-12-06 10:50

    Blah blah blah.....

  • Heinrich - 2011-12-06 11:13

    O.K. I've got the knife. What will be more acceptable for you: Shall I stick it into your belly or shall I stick it into your chest? See, we are good guys. We listen. We negotiate. We care. I say: Get rid of the thing. Then we can start talking about why you want the thing in the first place.

  • Rudi - 2011-12-06 11:21

    They want to push this bill through before the weapons scandal enquiry. Bet you the findings will not be published because of state secracy.

  • Vince.York - 2011-12-06 11:23

    At least Shaka in his time must have liked our erstwhile Gaddhafi and the Romans, Ghengis Khan and Atilla the Hun flavoured with a tad of Lenin, Trotsky & Stalin "steal from your leaders for the 'won't work' revolting peasants syndrome" and some strands of Nazi fascism - by per historical myth dashing in heads and throwing splattered brains in magnanimous public displays from a rock into the sharks jaws to stifle opposition and information. In 2012 we could supercede our 2010 Soccer WC audiences with displays the likes of that rather than these endless rounds of wasted tax payers funds all for the sole purpose of stabbing a silent knife into the very peoples backs that are providing the funds. WILL THIS INFO BILL HERALD THE ANC INTO THE INTERNATIONAL HISTORY BOOKS AS THE MOST OPPRESSIVE & RACIST ORGANISATION IN THE WORLD?

  • George - 2011-12-06 11:26

    They have spent more time on this bill than anything else in the last 17 years

      Servaas - 2011-12-06 11:43

      that and promoting HIV. Eish, the condom is too difficult to understand.. Rocket science.

  • Pierre - 2011-12-06 11:33

    The meeting is part of the ANC's ongoing engagement drive on the draft legislation," said African National Congress chief whip Mathole Motshekga. ------ now its a draft, bit confused.

      Heinrich - 2011-12-06 11:55

      But Pierre, it really is daft legislation. There are no doubt.

  • Piet - 2011-12-06 12:35

    whatever!!!!

  • Linda - 2011-12-06 16:40

    It is about time we have a bill that will protect us against misinformation and the opposition that presents itself as Media. The ANC rules this country and will do so for a very, very, very long time. The ANC Haters can go to the nearest lake and swallow a fish, bottom line this country will progress with our challenges and we will manage these challenges as we managed to peacefully take power from those who did not represent the majority. Now it is time we protect them from misinformation from those with the means to LIE AND SAY THEY REPRESENT THE MASSES. If one does not have any malicious intentions for SA then this bill is acceptable as it protects government information. Nothing wrong about that, the developed nations do this all the time. When we do it the same opposition says it is draconian, PLEASE....

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