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ANC leaders won't be able to 'duck and dive'

2012-06-28 22:25

Johannesburg - African National Congress leaders who are being investigated will no longer be able to hide behind the "innocent until proven guilty" slogan.

At the party's policy conference in Midrand, ANC Gauteng Secretary David Makhura the party decided that leaders will have to "step aside" if they are being investigated, as ongoing investigations tarnish the image of the party, City Press reported.

"Going forward, we can't have the ANC ducking and diving, that's the clear message from this policy conference," he told reporters at a briefing on the sidelines of the ANC's policy conference in Midrand.

Makhura also said that disciplinary processes should be sped up - until now those investigated simply stated they were innocent until a court found them guilty, and carried on with their official duties and received their government salaries.

Although leaders at the conference did not want to talk about specific cases, the most prominent case is that of John Block, Northern Cape ANC chairperson, City Press said.

He is involved in a drawn-out court battle fighting fraud charges, but is still the provincial finance minister.

Comments
  • scouter.fourone - 2012-06-28 22:37

    They may have to step aside but I bet they will remain on full pay and still enjoy all the perks that go with the job ..... I'd love to be proven wrong though.

      Godfrey - 2012-06-28 23:26

      This will not happen, for the same reason the ANC stop the discussion on the reduction of provinces, to many powerfull Caders will be "jobless".

      jack.oosthuysen - 2012-06-29 00:27

      Limpopo will only have duckers and divers left , but this is nothing new.

      Voiceinthedesert.co.za - 2012-06-29 00:30

      this is now a new type of game they are playing. If you have an ongoing investigation or one that is dragged out, it still won't stop the bastards from stealing. ANC think people are stupid with all their sudden changes they want to make while approaching election

      wesley.nel.5 - 2012-06-29 05:40

      Step aside to a higher position, where they can steal more

      oscar.vanriel - 2012-06-29 06:14

      So what is going to going to happen to the biggest duck and diver, ZUMA?

      chadjason.wilson - 2012-06-29 06:25

      come on..... this conference is all about learning to bob and weave.....

      art5SA - 2012-06-29 06:33

      So...If this is the case... WTF is JOHN BLOCK doing at the IMBIZU??? Or that CORRUPT Idiot Cassel from Limpopo? Or Ace ? Oh my Gawd.... the WHOLE LOT ARE INVOLVED IN CORRUPTION!!!!

      Joe - 2012-06-29 06:58

      Billions are stolen, and this is the best they can come up with? Try this; remove these thieves from public service permanently? Stop paying for their defence attorneys with tax payer money. Stop paying them a salary! Cease their assets including their pension and/or provident funds. Recover the money by tracking its trail. Cease the assets of each and every bugger that was involved, that is until the last cent is recovered. Corruption is one of the reasons why many communities have seen no improvement in their living conditions therefore it needs drastic and dramatic action!

      aristar.aristary - 2012-06-29 08:18

      The government is here to serve not to rule. The basis of a democratic system is that we, the voter, vote for the politicians to be put in place to SERVE US, not rule us.

      Jack - 2012-06-29 10:59

      Every 5 years we get the same song and dance. 'we have a new 5year plan' vote for us and you'll see. We still don't see

  • Christelle - 2012-06-28 22:38

    Really????? And they say that with a straight face whilst Toni Yengeni is sitting right next to them.

      john.barbarian.9 - 2012-06-29 04:59

      Thank You Christelle...Thank You. Yengeni name doesn't get mentioned but we know who steers the ship.

  • sally.lewitt - 2012-06-28 22:44

    I really hope that this WILL be true and that this is followed through to the T! It will save SA millions of rand and give ordinary citizens more faith in the ruling party. Hope its not just all talk.. These LOST funds can be but to constructive use such as Skills Training and Infrastructures to push the county forward.

  • zolisa.dlokovu - 2012-06-28 22:53

    for the first time the ANC is now doing the right thing.Fighting corruption but the ANC has good policies according to political analysts but no implementation.Lets hope those who are corrupt will be removed from the public service because corruption is killing poor people.We cant be another Nigeria

      wizeman.slim - 2012-06-28 23:27

      They are not doing "the right thing". They are talking about doing "the right thing". They can not fight corruption when they are doing it daily and being cought daily. They find big words, say it alot, say it some more, screw up and then they blame appartheid!

      Andre Van Zyl - 2012-06-29 01:43

      I think Nigeria is trying hard not to be another South Africa!

      wizeman.slim - 2012-06-29 03:05

      @ Andre..... Been in Nigira 5 times. Corrution is massive. Biggest oil producer in Africa. Unfortunately the most populated nation in Africa. Billions being stolen dayly.RSA wished that they the resources those people have.

      dennis.vermaak.5 - 2012-06-29 05:30

      That is why they want to nationalise the mines !!! It is too late to try and stop corruption !! GREED !!

      tobydt - 2012-06-29 06:20

      Remember last elections? JZ promised to go hardcore on corruption. Meanwhile record corruption (R30 billion a year) was reported by the AG. Talk is cheap.

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-06-29 12:55

      Zoliza, we are worse than Nigeria. At least there the President isn't wanting a jet worth R2bn.

  • Sagin - 2012-06-28 22:54

    I used to find these guys funny. now i just feel contempt for their stupidity and criminality.

  • jacque.raymer - 2012-06-28 23:15

    hahaha. after 18 years they realise this now ??? and pray tell how will this party survive when they remove corrupt officials, will anyone be left in the anc ? (the corruptions very deep from municaple level all the way to the president, will he step down too ? ) and who exactly will be in charge of this new idea ?. OMG, they reallly have lost it... nothing they do surprises me anymore.

  • koos.vandermerwe.338 - 2012-06-28 23:28

    Will they sidestep jail time too?

  • gawie.botha - 2012-06-28 23:29

    ,,,,,bla!,,,,,,,,Bla!,,,Bla,,,,,,,,,,the inocent bystanders,!!!

  • stefanphilrusch - 2012-06-29 00:22

    Just find it a bit coincidental that this kind of political claptrap arises around voting time. ANC has proven themselves over the past 18 years, don't have the wool pulled over your eyes people!

      glyn.morgan.96 - 2012-06-29 09:13

      Simply vote DA! The whole lot will automatically step aside! Viva South Africa! Viva DA!

  • Gerald Jordaan - 2012-06-29 01:10

    Sh*t rolls downhill..it all starts at the top..Zoomer must be at the top of the ANC's list of duckers and divers..SO STEP DOWN Peckerspear !!

  • Andre Van Zyl - 2012-06-29 01:39

    Great JZ now you will step aside until the arms deal enquiry is concluded..... No?! Oh sorry, I forgot, some pigs are more equal than others...

  • mthetheleli.ntshobololo.1 - 2012-06-29 02:06

    If this happens, I'm just thinking who will remain, but I cannot see anyone. Maybe they should rethink this statement.

  • wizeman.slim - 2012-06-29 02:13

    To "duck and dive" means you must be able to be aware and move siftly..... lol can't see the fatcats doing this!

  • derek.francois.3 - 2012-06-29 02:14

    WOW who's going to be left to run government now............

  • glen.e.huysamer - 2012-06-29 02:37

    Well half the ANC will have to step to the left while the other half steps to the right, left, right, left, right another song and dance party.

      Terry Wiegand - 2012-06-29 04:07

      It's still the old dance " the shuffle "

      art5SA - 2012-06-29 06:32

      Put the Left to the Right... and Put the Right to the Left... and shakeit all about!!!

      phillip.beukes.5 - 2012-06-29 08:04

      yes... and after the houky-poky... take a shower, eat lotsa garlic and dont call me in the morning...

  • gandanga.tororo - 2012-06-29 03:04

    What about the arms deal?

      price.moyo.9 - 2012-06-29 05:36

      Shut up...u sound like shonas who looted n destroyed zim

      sizwe.bwana - 2012-06-29 06:09

      What arms deal?

  • John - 2012-06-29 05:39

    you need to hide or play low profile so the press cannot find you until such times we can redeploy my friend he he he

  • sizwe.bwana - 2012-06-29 06:04

    What about a bit of justice, like jail time and asset seizure? This fat cat party should have been over long ago. ACCOUNTABILITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!\r\nThe fact that we have convicts in parliament? Time to clean up and deliver what was promised. As for the waste of money, the ones responsible must pay. R3 billion in missing textbook money, the culprits should hang publically. That is s crime against our children. I fear these are empty words and ANC will be back to back to business as usual as soon as they are out of the spotlight.

  • tobydt - 2012-06-29 06:17

    Wow, Block looks completely 'redeye' in that picture. Too much sauce there dude?

      Terry Wiegand - 2012-06-29 07:51

      JW blue to the left and JW blue to the right

  • tobydt - 2012-06-29 06:19

    Eh, but anyways, the elections must be close. Every year before elections, the ANC promises to cut down on corruption... to go hardcore on corrupt ANC members etc... The policy conferences end with the ANC slapping themselves on the backs, then going back to business as usual.

  • art5SA - 2012-06-29 06:31

    So...If this is the case... WTF is JOHN BLOCK doing at the IMBIZU??? Or that CORRUPT Idiot Cassel from Limpopo? Or Ace ? Oh my Gawd.... the WHOLE LOT ARE INVOLVED IN CORRUPTION!!!!

      Don.Tandy - 2012-06-29 07:55

      And fatboy with his delegates badge hanging round his neck - I thought the prick had been expelled.

  • grant.olivier.92 - 2012-06-29 06:47

    It's plain stupid to ignore the idea of a man being 'innocent until proven guilty' when what you really need a faster judicial process. Now all it takes to sideline a political opponent is to lay some trumped up charge against him and he disappears from the scene for a year or two. After the commercial break our regular soap drama continues.

  • JohannP - 2012-06-29 06:57

    Awesome idea. Make it law. And if any member of parliament is forced to step aside make a member from another party take his place. The ANC willose have it's seats in the first week.

  • raymond.abrahamse - 2012-06-29 07:01

    The Bells joke of the week

  • Itse - 2012-06-29 07:11

    Are you thinking what I'm thinking?Lets reinstate the dropped charges on the president so he can lead by example.

  • GloyPJ - 2012-06-29 07:15

    The pressure is on........and they can feel it!

  • Brad.Kopping - 2012-06-29 07:23

    There will be no one left xDDD

  • Don.Tandy - 2012-06-29 07:50

    Your image can't get much more tarnished than it is already, not as long as we daily hear of so many incidences of corruption and ineptitude. And don't forget the R2b jet for showerhead - but then I suppose this can be justified to enable showerhead to get to places quickly to sort out problems, like; - deliver school books in Limpopo. - commission submarines in Simonstown. - take wives shopping in Dubai. - buy paintings in Randburg. - play golf with Shabir in Durban. Get real ANC - in my eyes you stand for Anarchy Nepotism Corruption.

      aristar.aristary - 2012-06-29 08:24

      Perfect. I have a slightly less polite meaning for the acronym, A**holes, n*bs, c**ts. Have fun making words to match the acronym. Can be real fun.

  • Mike Peach Purchase - 2012-06-29 07:52

    So the whole lot must step aside....

      rob.baggaley - 2012-06-29 08:21

      Whats with the " Peach " thing Mike ?

      glyn.morgan.96 - 2012-06-29 09:26

      Whats with the baggaley thing Rob?

  • Bless Boswell - 2012-06-29 07:54

    The very recent fall from grace of Siceka could be a case in point. The man has unfortunately passed away, but the facts remain. He misappropriated state funds and when discovered was suspended on full pay while the case was being investigated. During this time he became more sick and died and was given an OFFICIAL FUNERAL?? Did he deserve that?

      aristar.aristary - 2012-06-29 08:21

      Good thing he is dead then and can't steal any more. Maybe where he has gone they don't have pockets in the clothes and the devil upholds Sharia law, or has devised better forms of punishment.

  • Bless Boswell - 2012-06-29 07:59

    Let the Anc put their money where their mouth is. Let Block be the first casualty.

  • mzuvukile.mbanjana - 2012-06-29 08:02

    Good resolution/ recommendation. I hope that it will be applied irrespective of the position in the organization and in government.

  • Jeremy - 2012-06-29 08:09

    I dont think they can "duck and dive" anyway, some really obese people in the ANC - Remember that ninja movie that Chris Farley did? He could not really duck and dive either, and he is about half the size of most of the ANC heavies :)

  • aristar.aristary - 2012-06-29 08:11

    Why not just fire them? Wait a bit!!! That would mean the whole of the ANC would have to go, including Zooma and his dicknity.

  • aristar.aristary - 2012-06-29 08:15

    The government is here to serve not to rule. The basis of a democratic system is that we, the voter, vote for the politicians to be put in place to SERVE US, not rule us.

  • 2zbunu - 2012-06-29 08:40

    Good decision moving towards nation building. It must not stop there if found guilty they suppose to pay back the state money if no money freeze their assets or attach them to pay for the state expenses. Then we all happy.

  • Koos - 2012-06-29 08:43

    This is actually very funny. You can NOT change the nature of the beast.

  • avanwyk2 - 2012-06-29 08:49

    But......then there will be nobody left in ANC to further destroy this country

  • devenjoey.theron - 2012-06-29 09:11

    yes, in the workspace we must look at the "balance of probabilities" we must ask the question: " was it more likely for you to become rich because of the position you held within your ANC job?" If the answer is "yes" then he must be suspended, if the answer is "no" then it means simply that the accused is getting paid too much, or he is doing a helluva better job with his own finances, and should be shifted towards "minister of finances" we must remember that leaders represent us in parliament, they give their time and judgment to us, they are in our service, so that we can live better lives together. if it seem(balance of probability) that they are creating wealth for themselves, beyond what we pay them, then they should go.

  • ivan.shamley - 2012-06-29 09:16

    So does this mean Zuma must step aside! Over 400 criminal charges against him!

  • winifred.watson.9 - 2012-06-29 09:19

    OH so we are going to be without a government. Its a disgrace, when the people in the street can see through your mirror yet you think you can fool us. They cadres have no shame, they get shown on tv for all the world to see. Guaranteed that why dewani came to south african to have his wife murdered.....its a piece of cake. South Africa has become a criminal haven, this, starts with the teaching of the ANC'S VERY OWN CADRES. They get away with it, so, why cant others. People have found that, crime pays much better than any job. Dont know how you are going to convince them to give up crime and get a decent hardworking job. Eish.

  • richard.zanner - 2012-06-29 10:17

    Wow all these wonderful intentions and policies after 18 years. Sorry I do not buy into it. It is just another attempt at buttering up the voters.

  • bob.robertson.3363 - 2012-06-29 11:17

    Why does the ANC persist in telling the world that crime pays? And why do so many people with less than 2 brain cells between them continue to support the ANC? Perhaps they are aspiring to join the party to learn how to become fully employed in the country's fastest growing and best paid industry - politically inspired crime. If you can't beat 'em joint 'em!

  • ditoare.gypsy - 2012-06-29 12:42

    Ha ha ha This is tricky, I wonder who will be the 1st to duck and dive

  • fran.aphane - 2012-06-29 12:46

    Finally the ANC has grown some balls, now they should just implement that policy. They should also no salary during suspension until proven not guilty. No golden handshakes.

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-06-29 13:10

      Fran, you surely don't expect anything to come of this do you?. All just hot air and no substance. Nothing new under the sun. Just another ANC ploy.

  • jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-06-29 12:52

    Promises, promises, promises and in the meantime the crooks and corrupt are sitting warmly and nothing is being done. Nothing will be done either. Who believe anything these clowns come up with?.

  • Billy - 2012-06-29 14:14

    hmm my comment was deleted from this article. as i said, "leaders will have to "step aside" if they are being investigated" that is currently called, suspended with full pay. until the actually SAY the person/s will be suspended without pay, these "duck & dive" or "step aside" phrases can be changed to suite their needs. just another way of renaming something they already do, to make it appear they are doing something useful.

  • Vince.York - 2012-07-01 21:08

    GOOD GRIEF, This is EXACTLY the opposite to what Zuma did when Mbeki moved him out of office for the duration of the investigation for HUNDREDS of criminal charges COSTING US TAX PAYERS RBillions these past 6 years while we have been forced to live under the useless self-serving black cloud he has cast over SA. (Zuma himself not having the decency to step down until cleared) "party decided that leaders will have to "step aside" if they are being investigated, as ongoing investigations tarnish the image of the party" wrings out quite clearly to ME if nobody else! Maybe it's best to give Mbeki another term instead of this creep a chance at it, so that we can truly have a circus to watch, fixing all the wrongs the zuma immoral dynasty has enforced.

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