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ANC policy conference cost R40m - report

2012-07-01 15:30

Johannesburg - The ANC's four-day-long policy conference cost the party R40m, the Sunday Independent reports.

This included the cost of hiring Gallagher convention centre in Midrand, accommodation, meals for 3 500 delegates, and their transport from various parts of the country, treasurer general Mathews Phosa was quoted as saying.

The African National Congress had paid its bills "in cash". Delegates had paid a token contribution, but unnamed donors had been "generous".

About 5 000 delegates were expected to attend the party's elective conference in Mangaung in December, Phosa told the paper.

Comments
  • smili.fication - 2012-07-01 15:34

    Those "unnamed" donors stoll the money from tax-payers in the first place!!!! We want our money back ANC rats.

      rbphiri - 2012-07-01 15:45

      This is nothing wait for the party's elective conference in Mangaung in December!!! Millions will be wasted!

      CharlesDumbwin - 2012-07-01 15:56

      40 million and the black voting masses stay poor...

      scouter.fourone - 2012-07-01 16:48

      There are no kick-backs for business people who pay to attend ANC functions, the party's treasurer general Mathews Phosa said on Wednesday.

      scouter.fourone - 2012-07-01 19:38

      This R40 million only represents about 6% of the 'reconfiguration'(read fickle interior design & security measures)cost of R672 million of Zuma's new airborne extravagance. Hope this puts things into perspective ......

      Lacrimose - 2012-07-01 20:45

      @Scouter - with a population of nearly 60 million, conference costs to citizens work out to roughly R1.25 per. However, the consequences of this conference will probably work out to R125 billion per.

      scouter.fourone - 2012-07-01 21:31

      @Lacrimose - I am with you one hundred per cent. What I was implying is that the R40 million is difficult enough to stomach - how much more outrageous would be the latest venture into airborne luxuries.

  • tom.vorster - 2012-07-01 15:39

    "The African National Congress had paid its bills "in cash"." Wait six months and we will hear about the first claims reach court.

      rbphiri - 2012-07-01 15:50

      Probably gave the service providers an I owe you note.

      Lacrimose - 2012-07-01 20:46

      Yep but the 60 million citizens will be paying for longer

  • rbphiri - 2012-07-01 15:43

    That R40m couldve been used to pay off the E-toll loan, but wait...who am I kidding our butthole government would rather pass on the financial burden to us taxpayers. "The African National Congress had paid its bills "in cash". Delegates had paid a token contribution, but unnamed donors had been "generous". Wow if this is the case, than the pink unicorn in my back yard must be real. If they can manage to spend R40m in just a period of four days + the one day for accreditation, we really should be worried as to what exactly is being done with our taxes.

      rbphiri - 2012-07-01 16:01

      Margie sadly if voters fail to see the light, I'm afraid the future seems dark and gloomy.

  • dennis.vermaak.5 - 2012-07-01 15:49

    Houses for the needy ??

      Tommo - 2012-07-01 18:24

      Long since forgotten i am afraid...

      devon.riley.52 - 2012-07-01 20:26

      Houses and toilets should come back on the agenda with the next elections:)

  • aderitotmn - 2012-07-01 15:51

    So the ANC/spent R40m on 5 000 ppl in 4 days. So each person costs R10 000 per day. Why did they not make a Bring-Own-Booze mara??

      Erna - 2012-07-01 16:04

      It was only 3500 delegates. 5000 expected in December.

      roland.gemmell - 2012-07-01 18:52

      My maths counts at R2857 per day per delagate times 3500 delegeates times 4 days - what did I miss? - Still a huge waste of money!!!!

      pretoriawebdesigner - 2012-07-01 19:17

      your math is faulty, redo it 3 x

  • jaysonpaul.beckwith - 2012-07-01 15:57

    The shouldve gone for the budget conference package. KFC street wize 2 and a t-shirt. They couldve saved R39m.

      rbphiri - 2012-07-01 16:06

      Chicken is just not enough these days, bare in mind these cash cows have four stomachs.

      jaysonpaul.beckwith - 2012-07-01 16:07

      Lol.

      smili.fication - 2012-07-01 16:42

      RPhiri - Oh snap! Thats one to remember.

      keith.f.murphy - 2012-07-01 17:13

      Do you think those useless ANC members wants Kentucky mate ? They dont even want to eat stuif pap anymore , since they tasted the life on top od the clouds.Everything has a begining and an end, look at all the Dictaors what happened to them??

  • Senzo Mathebula - 2012-07-01 15:59

    -/+ R12 000 per delegate sounds reasonable to me. Most companies pay more than twice that for similar gatherings.

      rbphiri - 2012-07-01 16:14

      The difference is that companies use their OWN money, and the buttholes on the other hand use OUR money.

      Lacrimose - 2012-07-01 16:59

      That's a heavy price for the same outcome as the last policy conference. And the one before that. And the one before that

      sakkie.prinsloo.35 - 2012-07-01 18:04

      Senzo, agreed, but then again the "companies" you mention create Income/Taxes/Jobs...while your "delegates" feast on "Egg-sandwiches-while-chewing-open-mouth" like concrete-mixers at a building site, but the true fact is , these "delegates" achieved " zero/zilch/nada. Not even get a mention of the so called "Nationalizing of Mines " or expropriating of land without compensation.What a waste of time and money.!! Start building houses for the poor.!!!!!

      Tommo - 2012-07-01 18:21

      When the British labour party uses R4000 pr delegate for the same number of days, how the f*** can it cost R12000 in South Africa????

      pretoriawebdesigner - 2012-07-01 19:19

      The ANC pays for ANC congresses, This does not come from taxes to my knowledge. Just like the DA pays for DA congresses.

      Senzo Mathebula - 2012-07-01 20:20

      @phiri. Don't b naive, a mining company goes to An expensive Santon hotel for the CEO's ball they claim that money against taxman as operational cost... Taxman taxes less and in that way they have wasted money that could been used to built an RDP since that is our currency now.

      Lacrimose - 2012-07-01 20:32

      @Tommo - Here in Sunny South Africa, every politrickster has R1m+ car, driver and a blue-light cavalcade which mows down citizens in their paths and then refuses to pay for the medical bills or compensate for the loss of income/life. So when they 'congress', it's 5* all the way. Their conference brawl was fought using bottled water. In South Africa, with a tax-payer base of circa 6million (10% of the population) City Managers earn more than the President. The South African President earns more than Obama (USA has 70 million tax-payers). African Economics 101

  • M.T.Selepe - 2012-07-01 16:02

    Taxpayers are now called unnamed generous donors who paid R40m for a 3day conference-Dodgey ANC!

      rbphiri - 2012-07-01 16:13

      unnamed generous donors, I never saw that one coming, hell i should double check my ID...the government just gave me a new name.

      sdchilongwe - 2012-07-01 16:28

      but they said there should be transparency on donations to political paties,so this is the transparency they were talking about?

      scouter.fourone - 2012-07-01 19:24

      @sdchilongwe - this is transparent ...... we can all see right through it!

      devon.riley.52 - 2012-07-01 20:28

      SARS perhaps the unnamed donor?

  • elmarie.viljoen.7 - 2012-07-01 16:03

    WTFF.... How do these people stay in power? How is it possible that the majority do not see this, how and WHY do they keep on voting these people in? Shocking country South Africa!!! No books for school, no promised government housing, but the president can do what he pleases, buying new Boeing's and his people who vote for him starve and battle day to day... You are a disgrace to South Africa...

      frank.downs.357 - 2012-07-01 17:14

      How do these people stay in power? THE POOR VOTERS DON'T CARE HOW CORRUPT THE ANC ARE. THEY ARE TOO AFRAID THAT ANOTHER PARTY WILL STOP THE PENSIONS AND GRANTS THAT THEY DESERVE. IT IS A TRICK THAT THE NATIONALIST PARTY USED ALL THOSE YEARS SUCCESSFULLY.

      Twolips - 2012-07-01 19:37

      The Boeing deal has been cancelled suddenly, according to the Sunday Tribune.

      jacques.smit - 2012-07-02 09:08

      The trick is to keep the majority un-educated and starving for any little promise they might throw their way.. That way they dont realise that they are just beeing used to feed the fat cats..

      azande.futhi - 2012-07-02 10:13

      How does the spending on a party function has do with spending on government operations? If you mix disparate issues, you end confused just like you all are.

  • kswanepoel - 2012-07-01 16:10

    They could've held their conference in our garden and I would've arranged accommodation in local guest houses and transport and only billed them R4 million cash, lol! Why not hold it at a school or church hall which will benefit the locals and under privileged, who actually are ANC Supporters? After all the local voters are the ones who keep them in their luxurious lifestyles and in Office?

  • judith.taylor.56 - 2012-07-01 16:10

    And they can't give R3000 for Water Caucus Meetings four times a year. The government has deleted our requests and ignore us. We are too embarrassing and yet we are on the ground looking at what is wrong and must be fixed

      Lacrimose - 2012-07-01 22:05

      Water is only important if it is in a bottle, comes from another country and you can throw it at your fellow cadres

  • j.c.s.mailbox - 2012-07-01 16:28

    One big party braul all the time every time...on tax payers expense. Will remember this when filling my tax forms next week....

  • Pheello Maleleka - 2012-07-01 16:32

    oh my god please have mercy on ANC

      scouter.fourone - 2012-07-01 19:22

      No God, please don't - feel free to let rip in all your wrath (pretty please?)

  • eugene.m.geel - 2012-07-01 16:35

    What did they achieve?\r\nThere are people who need food-IDI AMIN revisited!!!!!!!

  • themba.thwala.98 - 2012-07-01 16:57

    The money is kickbacks for tenders. All the businessmen who "invested" in the Conference know their "investment" is coming back 10folds.

  • keith.f.murphy - 2012-07-01 17:09

    Listen bottom line ZUMA is a failure !! His interest is to have a rose garden with many wives.But he is a mafia beware

  • robert.mevo - 2012-07-01 17:47

    R40m 4 nathing..

  • sizwe.bwana - 2012-07-01 18:06

    Only the ANC can burn 2000 rdp houses on one weekend

  • shaylene.stenger - 2012-07-01 18:14

    this makes me sick, 40 mil could have been used else where but instead it goes into the stomachs of our fat, lazy ministers tummys and life styles....sis sis sis

      sibusiso.mkoko - 2012-07-01 19:13

      This makes me sick. Banks make billions in profits, which cud be spent on other things neede, like building homes, for health, etc. Instead, ppl wanna be billionaires, for what?

      shaylene.stenger - 2012-07-02 10:04

      Why should banks bail out what the goverment should be doing? This is the goverments duties and responsibilities ,not the banks. After all what am I paying tax for?

  • Tommo - 2012-07-01 18:27

    Wait wait wait wait wait!!! People who pay such huge bills in cash do so to avoid tax??? Since when do you buy a car, a house, in cash?????

      scouter.fourone - 2012-07-01 19:17

      About the time nobody trusts you to honour more conventional payment methods

  • rob.tubbs.39 - 2012-07-01 18:30

    And what did they achieve? Zip,Zilch, Nada - 'freebies'. Would have loved to be seated at one of the tables during a meal...... The rich stay rich and the poor get poorer...

  • denver.anderies - 2012-07-01 18:43

    Wen are the homelis people in.western.cape /mamre. going to get thy home,s the president promest.

  • denver.anderies - 2012-07-01 19:07

    Wy are the ANC SPENDING R40M ON CONFRENS.WERE ARE THE HOMES THY HAVE PROMIST?. AS IN MAMRE.WESTERN.CAPE MOUST OF AS HAVE FOTE FOR THE ANC AND. NOTHING HAS HAPPINING HEER. MORE THAN 500 PEOPLE ARE STIL WATING FOR MORE THAN 5YEAR,S FOR HOUSES. AND IN THE WESTERN CAPE MANYE PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR WORK.I MEAN COME ON DONT MAKE PROMESIS THAT YOU CANT HOLD.THANK U.

  • denver.anderies - 2012-07-01 19:07

    Wy are the ANC SPENDING R40M ON CONFRENS.WERE ARE THE HOMES THY HAVE PROMIST?. AS IN MAMRE.WESTERN.CAPE MOUST OF AS HAVE FOTE FOR THE ANC AND. NOTHING HAS HAPPINING HEER. MORE THAN 500 PEOPLE ARE STIL WATING FOR MORE THAN 5YEAR,S FOR HOUSES. AND IN THE WESTERN CAPE MANYE PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR WORK.I MEAN COME ON DONT MAKE PROMESIS THAT YOU CANT HOLD.THANK U.

  • denver.anderies - 2012-07-01 19:09

    Wy are the ANC SPENDING R40M ON CONFRENS.WERE ARE THE HOMES THY HAVE PROMIST?. AS IN MAMRE.WESTERN.CAPE MOUST OF AS HAVE FOTE FOR THE ANC AND. NOTHING HAS HAPPINING HEER. MORE THAN 500 PEOPLE ARE STIL WATING FOR MORE THAN 5YEAR,S FOR HOUSES. AND IN THE WESTERN CAPE MANYE PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR WORK.I MEAN COME ON DONT MAKE PROMESIS THAT YOU CANT HOLD.THANK U.

  • Sakhiwo - 2012-07-01 19:23

    Aaah!! There's lot of money in Mzantsi.That's the ruling party

  • pieriewaaier.zooms - 2012-07-01 20:39

    Only 2 points: (1) Any cost/benefit analysis for the nation as whole for this circus must be negative; even just for the ANC it must be negative as well going by the reports, news briefings etc during & after the event. Not much of real value was reported at all. Perhaps for Zuma, well, he may think that perhaps the R40-m was well spent but will have to wait till December, won't he? (2), Mr Phosa, where does the ANC get that much money from in cash even if not all of the R40-m? Do you keep a stash of cash in the ANC's safe? Has Gallaghar been paid in cash and all the hotels and guesthouses, transport operators, etc? If the ANC has all that cash readily available in the safe has this been declared as such? If not, why not? Don't take all of us for fools, please!

  • IcemanGP - 2012-07-01 21:11

    but\r\nunnamed donors had been \generous\... These must be the TENDER BILLIONAIRE'S

      scouter.fourone - 2012-07-01 21:48

      There are no kick-backs for business people who pay to attend ANC functions, the party's treasurer general Mathews Phosa said on Wednesday. Surely Mathews wouldn't be lying to us, would he? (much!)

  • sibusiso.mkoko - 2012-07-01 22:15

    No problem. Banks make billions in profits,\r\nwhich cud be spent on other things neede, like\r\nbuilding homes, for health, etc. Instead, ppl wanna\r\nbe billionaires, for what? Leave our ANC alone new24

      scouter.fourone - 2012-07-01 22:24

      Hate to burst your bubble Sibusiso but in case you hadn't noticed, your beloved Party is busy destroying itself. Even your Grass Root level is now beginning to notice the self destruction that is beginning to surface .....

  • michael.kleber.376 - 2012-07-02 07:39

    At least they did not waste the money on education or textbooks ,

  • Carlo Gieljoumie - 2012-07-02 08:56

    Those donors must be affiliated to sanrail wonder how many booms will go up

  • sika.ncamane - 2012-07-02 08:59

    were you expecting the conference to cost R3K??????? get a life and give us a serious story not this crap

  • Ryno - 2012-07-02 09:18

    "The African National Congress had paid its bills "in cash"." was the propper FICA rules and regulations followed and adhered to?

  • elkita.robbertse - 2012-07-02 09:20

    I have a notion with that kind of money spent,they also must have been drunk fron morn till night.

  • elkita.robbertse - 2012-07-02 09:22

    Bulls-Bolls.You have the right name.Go and stand naked on pretoria plain for all to see.Keep yourself busy there or get a job....

  • amelia.basson - 2012-07-02 09:57

    Subiso don't defend cANCer's right to ruin OUR childrens future - Less than 6 months ago they wasted R100 000 000,00 (R100 million) on ANC 100yr parties - and now R40 000 000,00 (R40 million) on another party and R2 800 000 000,00 (R2,8 billion) on a plane? and ANC voters think it's OK! They're acting like sharks in a feeding frenzy!

  • azande.futhi - 2012-07-02 10:08

    R11 500 per delegate is very reasonable. There is nothing wrong with this spending. We need to be realistic and impartial.

      amelia.basson - 2012-07-02 10:57

      Azande ... R11500 is more than some South Africans earn in a year - that's South Africa's unreasonable reality! It's time these delegates DELEGATE the money to more important issues than flushing our money down their luxury toilets!

      sika.ncamane - 2012-07-02 11:46

      @Amelia are you an ANC sponsor?

      azande.futhi - 2012-07-02 11:51

      @Amelia, correction, its ANC money not "our money". Secondly, policy conference takes place every five years so that the ruling party can review its policies and envision its strategic intent. is that wrong to do? or its wrong simply because it is done by ANC?

      Gerald - 2012-07-02 12:20

      40 million is not so bad. We got a full week of the best of animal planet and WWE together. Its a pity their voters will pay with their childrens freedom but hey thats entertainment

      amelia.basson - 2012-07-02 13:51

      Azande are you for real? ... ANC MONEY? Where do they get the money? From ME and you (if you work and pay taxes)! 18yrs ago I voted for freedom and a better future for all which they promised to create with my tax money ... 18yrs later we're "free" with 8 bankcrupt provinces, schools & education ruined, corrupt police, sick & dirty hospitals, pothole roads, blackouts, sewage & dirty water, unemployment & poverty - but yes I'm now free! Free to enjoy seeing them spend MY money on parties and planes and wives and luxuries that you and I can't begin to dream of!

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