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ANC questions timing of Zuma 'plot' report

2011-04-11 23:00

Johannesburg - The ANC on Monday questioned the timing of a report on a plot to oust President Jacob Zuma at the ANC's elective conference in 2012.

"The timing of the disclosure of the so-called plot which is at the time when senior members of the crime intelligence are facing criminal charges and the ANC is facing elections raises many questions, chief among them; whether there is no pattern emerging where indeed there are attempts from some quarters and the media to portray 'an ANC that is at war with itself'," said ANC spokesperson Jackson Mthembu in a statement.

"In this regard we want to state categorically that the ANC national leadership, all its provinces and branches, are united behind the leadership of comrade Jacob Zuma.

"No attempt to sow division within the ANC leadership and the ANC broadly will ever work. We have defeated these tendencies in the past and we will not fail to defeat them now."

This followed a report by the Sunday Independent which named alleged conspirators plotting Zuma's removal as president of the ANC.

The report said a 22-page document, allegedly emanating from an intelligence probe into national police commissioner General Bheki Cele, detailed the conspiracy to oust Zuma.

It was reportedly stated in the document that Cele, a known Zuma supporter, had "ditched" the President in favour of Human Settlements Minister and ANC national executive committee member Tokyo Sexwale.

The paper reported that the arrest of crime intelligence boss Richard Mdludli had "lifted the lid on a ferocious political tug-of-war raging in the ANC" ahead of the 2012 conference.

The Mail & Guardian on Friday reported that Mdludli had obtained a "secret intelligence report detailing extensive allegations of corruption against Cele".

The document stated that a group of "anti-Zuma" members, called the "Mvela Group", met in Estcourt in January where they allegedly plotted Zuma's ousting.

It said, a few days thereafter, revelations appeared in the media that Zuma had fathered a child out of wedlock with the daughter of soccer boss Irvin Khoza, Sonono.

Mthembu said the "so-called plot meeting" on January 23, 2011, did not take place as the alleged plotters were not in KwaZulu-Natal at the time.

The Sunday Independent report, however, did not stipulate whether the meeting had taken place in 2011.

Mthembu also said it was a "known fact" that Sexwale had "publicly endorsed" Zuma for a second term.

"We also find it very strange that the said newspaper and others... never even asked these leaders of the ANC whether they did attend such a meeting.

"Instead they rushed to print the article without canvassing their side of the story, which goes against the grain of objective journalism.

"We also find it very crude and suspicious that the said newspaper will rely on people who are facing serious charges for wrongdoing.

"At any rate, such a report without corroboration from a credible source or another intelligence arm raises doubt on its credibility. We find it strange that a division that is responsible for crime intelligence ends up 'investigating' a purely political matter that has no crime connotation or intention.

"This constitutes a mandate drift in the highest order and in itself it needs to be investigated," Mthembu said.

Justice Minister and ANC head of policy Jeff Radebe, on Monday also distanced himself from the alleged plot.

"I am neither aware of any such plot nor do I know of any group whose mission it is to work towards ousting President Zuma at the next ANC conference," Radebe said in a statement issued by his spokesperson Tlali Tlali.

"I consider these allegations spurious and malicious."

Radebe said he had never been to a meeting "secret or not" in Estcourt.

The report said Sexwale led a group of ANC leaders, including Radebe, who wanted to prevent Zuma from serving a second term at the helm of the ruling party.

Other ANC leaders included KwaZulu-Natal Premier Zweli Mkhize, ANC Youth League leader Julius Malema, ANC treasurer general Mathews Phosa, ANC NEC member and former ANCYL president Fikile Mbalula, Limpopo Premier Cassel Mathale, ANC Gauteng chairperson Paul Mashatile, ANC deputy secretary general Thandi Modise, and NEC members David Mabuza, Enoch Gondongwana and Tony Yengeni, it said.

Comments
  • Martin du Plessis - 2011-04-11 23:48

    It's The timing of DOOOOOM and GLOOOOM and other things ending in OOOOOOM for the ANC.

      Hans-Erik Iken - 2011-04-12 00:15

      Let me get this straight: a report written by highranking policeofficers, political appointees from the ANC and members of the ANC, about members of the ANC planning to get rid of the President of the ANC as well as the nation is now the plot conceived by people OUTSIDE the ANC? Can somebody, preferably from the ANC, explain to me how they arrive at that conclusion? Is it just the inconvenient time this report comes out? In that case the courts are the plotters. No wait, those are also controlled by the ANC with judges appointed by the ANC so that is not it. I give up, please somebody enlighten me?

      Martin du Plessis - 2011-04-12 00:41

      Because they said so, and that makes it law, don't you know? *sarcasm*

      ArtGee - 2011-04-12 06:45

      Infighting will be the reason the ANC will be a SPENT FORCE come 2014... when President Zille takes over! Writing is on the wall for this THIEVING ORGANISATION! It's a matter of time, before they fall apart, like those RDP HOUSES they brag about..... USELESS!!!

      Stox - 2011-04-12 10:05

      @Martin: har har! :) I would love to see another political party get elected into the national government. It's just been about the NP and the ANC, and they're cut from the same crust, just on opposite sides of the bread.

      TheUgly - 2011-04-12 14:21

      "Comrade Jacob Zuma". Sound very military. When was the last time Helen Zile was referred to as a "comrade Zile". These black politicians are defending themselves from some fictional struggle. I believe they are milking the gravy train as much as possible before the DA takes over and they lose everything.

      TheUgly - 2011-04-12 14:22

      "Comrade Jacob Zuma". Sound very military. When was the last time Helen Zile was referred to as a "comrade Zile". These black politicians are defending themselves from some fictional struggle. I believe they are milking the gravy train as much as possible before the DA takes over and they lose everything.

  • Sprokie - 2011-04-11 23:54

    African National Circus, funny bumch of clowns!!

  • wide awake - 2011-04-12 00:00

    What difference does it make the ANC are a corrupt useless joke of a party. Internationally they are laughed at, they are now seen as incompetent, not hard to see why. About time they close down their corrupt racist circus and stop stealing from the poor.

  • louis - 2011-04-12 04:04

    tell me: when isnt a high ranking member of the ANC being tried for serious crimes?

  • Big Mouth - 2011-04-12 06:17

    Thats all the ANC ever do QUESTION THIS and QUESTION that. Hows some answers for a change.

  • Tracer - 2011-04-12 06:27

    where there's smoke there's fire.......

  • Slapper - 2011-04-12 07:09

    Its a conspiracy against the conspiracy, to conspire against the conspirer's. Typical! they will tie themselves in knots, again.

  • Ozman - 2011-04-12 07:25

    It’s case of one gangster not trusting the other; let’s face it the ANC is organised crime personified, “the big boy’s on the block” and it’s time to relinquish the Don aka “Zuma”. What goes around comes around “life”.

  • Sword&Cross - 2011-04-12 07:55

    SOME OF SA's MOST CRMINALLY INCLINED in a single paragraph:- included KwaZulu-Natal Premier Zweli Mkhize, ANC Youth League leader Julius Malema, ANC treasurer general Mathews Phosa, ANC NEC member and former ANCYL president Fikile Mbalula, Limpopo Premier Cassel Mathale, ANC Gauteng chairperson Paul Mashatile, ANC deputy secretary general Thandi Modise, and NEC members David Mabuza, Enoch Gondongwana and Tony Yengeni.

  • citizen36M1 - 2011-04-12 08:13

    Whether they all support Zuma or not, they all must go. A government which allows high ranking officials to get away with the theft of taxpayers' hard earned money without suspending and quickly bringing charges against the guilty parties. What makes this even more despicable is that they claim to be the saviours of the poor, previously disadvantaged... There is actually be a plot to remove the ANC from government, never mind Zuma - it is called Free and Fair Elections. South Africans, please wake up and make the right choice in the upcoming municipal elections and, more importantly, in the next national elections - make sure that the ANC does not again get into power on an emotional, race-based vote. Vote against cadre deployment and corruption, Vote against government appointed officials stealing your hard earned money, Vote against poor service delivery, Vote against poor judgement in matters such as the Arms Deal... Vote against the ANC. You owe it to yourselves to put a government in place which can realise the full potential of this country, not squander it as the ANC has done over the past decade and a half.

  • Wacko - 2011-04-12 08:18

    Can somebody please inform us what happened with jackson's drunk driving case in Cape Town.... Under the rug I suppose.........

      saliem - 2011-04-12 08:45

      Say what?

      buzz - 2011-04-12 10:29

      Far as I remeber he admitted guilt and was fined - I also seem to remember that the ANC praised him for being honest about it. What I thought funny about the whole thing was that he was bust in the morning. So the ANC spokesperson seems to be a fairly serious alcoholic - but that just an assumption of course...

      GT - 2011-04-12 10:29

      He plead guilty - try google

  • saliem - 2011-04-12 08:44

    In politics they call it lobbying and it's done all over the world. Thing is that Zoomers goons are so illiterate that they couldn't find the right word. Zoomer is not the ANC... he is simply a member of the party. If peeps within the party choose to lobby for another leader there is nothing wrong with that. The Zoomer band did exactly the same thing to oust Mbeki and it wasn't called a conspiracy then. Toughen up Zoomer... pappa soek vir jou :P

      sekunjalo1 - 2011-04-12 09:11

      True that when they lobby and force people to vote they favourates it's not conspiracy but when Mbeki was ousted what was it. What goes around will always comes around.

  • Dave - 2011-04-12 08:47

    He did it to Mbeki, i hope it happens to him. It's called Karma my mate!!

      sekunjalo1 - 2011-04-12 09:08

      Dave exactly we share the same sentiment about the whole thing and its true, it's time for hoim to go and I belive he's got enough in his money bag.

      rinuseckard - 2011-04-12 09:38

      "Rather the devil you know" comes to mind. I am very afraid of what JZ might get replaced with!

  • sekunjalo1 - 2011-04-12 09:06

    They did it to Mbeki and deny, Toyko and Phosa were not on politics by then but after Mbeki was forces to step down Phosa and Toyko resurfaces again. If they did it to Mbeki what can that stop them to do it to Zuma. Zuma knew from the start that he was there to oust Mbeki and now it's his turn.

  • kaz - 2011-04-12 09:14

    "We also find it very crude and suspicious that the said newspaper will rely on people who are facing serious charges for wrongdoing." HA HA, then surely the press shouldn't listen to anyone in government as they all have criminal records and have faced 'serious charges of wrong doing'

      Jean - 2011-04-12 10:24

      Agree! Surely by that logic we should ignore every word that comes out of Zuma's mouth! Oh no! Wait a minute... didn't they find "political solutions for his legal problems"....?

  • buzz - 2011-04-12 10:26

    Ha ha ha, this is the mirror image of when they were denying wanting to oust Thabo. Its really funny actually, because it will happen again, this time pres 783 will be out on his ass. Problem is, even if the ANC did want to govern properly - which clearly, they do not - they would still be spending far too much time fighting with each other to actually be able to govern. How the hell do we get this Africam theme to stop re-running itself? (I am not trying to be derogatory there, it is a genuine question, or concern)

  • K@K Praat? - 2011-04-12 10:49

    AAHH HAAA.... IT MUST BE THE APPARHEID WHITES!!!!!

  • DW - 2011-04-12 11:24

    Like the plot to oust Mbeki which was denied hotly - which turned out to be true...

  • TheUgly - 2011-04-12 14:22

    "Comrade Jacob Zuma". Sound very military. When was the last time Helen Zile was referred to as a "comrade Zile". These black politicians are defending themselves from some fictional struggle. I believe they are milking the gravy train as much as possible before the DA takes over and they lose everything.

  • HappyInSA - 2011-04-12 14:34

    After reading about the 'plot' to replace Jacob Zuma with Tokyo Sexwale and others, it occurred to me that perhaps the spate of revelations appearing in the newspapers may actually be instigated by people who support the proposed media tribunal. I just can't over how uncanny it is that we have article after article about corruption and then.. nothing. No action, nobody gets fired. If the articles are false - how on earth did they get published unless some very powerful people wanted them to? Now I am not saying there isn't corruption - but it makes it a hell of a lot harder to work out what is actually happening if the media is being setup to fail. Anybody else have some thoughts on this?

  • Paul - 2011-04-14 09:10

    It shows you how the ANC is breaking up as no one in the ANC can work together, continuous fighting all the time. The ANC days are numbered. All promises and no delivery, what a mess and now no one can fix it.

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