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Clause on Constitution removed from ANC docs

2012-03-05 20:15

Johannesburg - A paragraph that points to the ANC’s intent to change the Constitution was removed from the latest version of the party’s discussion documents.

The party launched its discussion documents at Lilliesleaf in Rivonia on Monday.

These documents form the basis of the ANC policy conference in June and its national elective conference in December in Mangaung.

On Sunday City Press reported the Strategy and Tactics document, which was presented to the national executive committee on February 27, contained indications that the ruling party wants to change the constitution.

"Constitutions are living documents and reflect the stage of development of a given society.

"There may therefore well be elements of our Constitution that requires review because they may be an impediment to social and economic transformation, such as for example the narrow mandate of the Reserve Bank or the relationship between and powers of different spheres of government," it read.

Today there was no trace of the paragraph in the document distributed at Lilliesleaf.

Justice Minister Jeff Radebe told journalists the ANC had no such plans.

He went on to call his fellow NEC members "impimpis" and "Judas Iscariots" because they leak documents to the press.

"Every place has rotten apples," he said.

Although Radebe confirmed the ANC "might" amend the constitution, he called media reports on the matter "scare tactics”.

NEC member Jessie Duarte confirmed that the ANC wants parliamentary hearings to take place which will look into an "independent mechanism" to regulate the print media.

She said a mechanism is needed to increase accountability. But, she added, this mechanism must be free of government and business influence, as well as the influence of "monopolies in media", referring to the fact that four media houses own the biggest print publications.

A land commission is also due to be established to help the minister of land affairs to deal with land restitution. A position of land valuer-general will be created to establish the value of land that is to be expropriated.

The ANC complained that the willing buyer-willing seller model "distorts" the land market through inflating the prices of land earmarked for restitution.

"This has a dual effect of making land reform expensive and delays the process of increasing access of the poor to land," Radebe said.

Comments
  • Cracker - 2012-03-05 20:53

    Luckily for us we know that politicians are honest. It was nothing more than a mistake. Forgive them.

      marcelminnaar - 2012-03-05 21:01

      Willing buyer willing seller? To help the poor? How about R300m stolen out of state coffers? The ANC is smart, I think this is where the secrecy act was supposed to help the ANC so that no one could know about the change of constitution??? What a bunch of panzies!!!

      mariuskowie - 2012-03-05 21:01

      In your "About Me:" you wrote: "Despises dishonesty and BS." Politicians don't make mistakes like these. You want us to forgive them. What a load of BS!

      Adam - 2012-03-05 21:06

      Shouldnt this also apply to "willing landlord, willing tenant."

      joeballito - 2012-03-05 22:27

      R300 million? Why do people forget there is actually R30 BILLION missing?

  • Vernon - 2012-03-05 20:54

    zimbabwe

      Glyn - 2012-03-05 21:20

      north korea

      Fanie - 2012-03-05 22:00

      China my China, big time.

  • Christopher - 2012-03-05 21:00

    Firstly the plant a huge shock into ones system, then they say "no we just doing land redistribution, screwing the media over and one or two more things but not playing around with the constitution" so they think after the big shock, that we will be more understanding that they going to change only a "few" things...yeah right..it starts from one or two and ends up....

      Em - 2012-03-06 05:55

      I have to agree with you. This is just the beginning. Next it will be a total media black out and then state controlled. Next to go will be the pretentious AA and BBBEEEEEE (whatever) and blatant destruction of the whites rights to earn a living. They will not stop until every last white left in this God forsaken land is in a squatter camp and believe me, it will be far worse than what they claim they suffered.

  • Johnathan - 2012-03-05 21:00

    Again with the propaganda. Are South Africans so apathetic that we fall for the ... its not happening line and then we are all caught with our pants down in the rain for all to see. Is the Gauteng toll issue not a shining example of how the propaganda works. First shock tactic, then hope that the government has the publics interests at heart and then wam ... sorry for you South African citizen, the tolls are in and somehow we all have a grumble and let it happen. Constitution changes ... man this is possibly the saddest talk that could ever be happening. If we don't all stand together, (not a racial issue) then we all deserve to suffer the outcome of not only the Gauteng toll roads as an example of how this works, but when the constitution changes and peoples lives are sadly affected. O yes, I am still pretty confused as to how willing buyer / seller failed, but nothing is said about the land bank corruption that has occurred in the passed with corruption being unpunished and the inability to run the state enterprise. Easy to blame willing buyer / seller, but not easy to account for the mess in the land bank. a

      roger.pacey - 2012-03-05 21:11

      The willing buyer-willing sale model fails because the new owners are going to produce less than the current owner, not because of market distortion. There are numerous examples of the new owners producing little or nothing. Under the free market system, a buyer who can produce more on a piece of land is in a position to offer the seller more money than if he, the seller were to keep working that piece of land. That's how resources get allocated under free markets. If you offer the (potential) seller less than he'd get by staying on the land, he's not going to be willing to sell. Whatever distortion there may be in the model comes from introducing politics into the market, not the market itself.

      theO rAcLe - 2012-03-05 22:20

      Constitution can only change when the ANC have 2thirds of the votes..... They DO NOT HAVE THAT AND ARE NOT GOING TO GET IT EITHER,,,, D A on the rise.

  • Badgerspoon - 2012-03-05 21:01

    There are few things that scare me more than this. Why would the ANC need to change the constitution? ALL of the above problems can be addressed in other ways. The constitution is the framework on which a country functions. Parliament should not be allowed to even touch it. EVER. But let's call a spade a spade - the ANC only wants to legalize whatever illegal cockamaney scheme they're cooking up right now.

      Adam - 2012-03-05 21:20

      We must also remember all the things malema said,after all he was zumas mouthpiece, and probably is still in control of the anc. Please vote with your head, you can see what you got in the last 18 years.

      Scouter - 2012-03-05 21:20

      The way SA is rapidly going right now, Zimbabwe will soon appear to be a model African democracy by comparison. The rate of SA's decline is terrifying and if left unchecked will result in the biggest disaster yet to hit Southern Africa.

  • Ben - 2012-03-05 21:05

    Some places have rotten apples only.

  • Ian - 2012-03-05 21:18

    ya only cos the bastards were busted, let see, it was taken out of context, usual BS excuse, anc trash

  • Glyn - 2012-03-05 21:18

    Watch the anc oligarchs! They are DEVIOUS! They are desperate! They are dangerous! Vote DA! They are not devious or dangerous, just desperate for a better South Africa for all citizens and future generations which the anc cannot give. Give the anc a fright, vote DA!

  • Nicola Killops - 2012-03-05 21:21

    This is exactly why they want to muzzle the media...

  • Sinudeity - 2012-03-05 21:54

    Radebe definitely got the statement about 'rotten apples' spot on.

      Hettie - 2012-03-29 10:51

      YES ABSOLUTELY ALL THE PEOPLE VOTED YES FOR A SEE ALL THAT THE GOV DO AND NOW THEY WANT TO MUZZLE THE MEDIA AND CHANGE THE CONSTITUTION BECAUSE IT IS A LIVING DOC. BUT WE THE PEOPLE LIVE THE LIFE THAT THEY ARE ORCHESTRATING.CHILDREN DONT HAVE SCHOOLS WITH PROPER BOOKS AND TEACHERS THAT IS BAD FOR EVERYONE PLEASE WAKE UP AND TAKE NOTICE S.A. WE ARE ON THE DECLINE WITH EVERYTHING.

  • Eduard - 2012-03-05 21:55

    Maybe the ANC realised that the peoples are starting to see them for who they are--> Corruptious Horibalus and that they are scared that they will lose votes. No wait, that is too far fetched, maybe they must stick to the easy stuff like Name Changing and Stealing.

  • sandy.langenstrass - 2012-03-05 21:57

    The ANC seem pretty good at preplaning and setting up situations to suit their greedy needs from government coffers...strange they not to good at preplaning in seeing to the citizens getting better services.

  • Fanie - 2012-03-05 21:57

    When the ANC government holds itself accountable for their mistakes and of gov. institutions, then only can they prescribe to others to be held accountable.

  • africanwolf - 2012-03-05 22:00

    Thank you!

  • Mboneni - 2012-03-05 22:10

    This is an act of desperation on the part of the ANC,which is riddled by disunity and back-stabing.When the ANC was voted into power they promised better life for all,jobs for all and now they say together we can do more.All those promises delivered the opposite,which is corruption that is eating everything that is meant for social upliftment,Instead of changing our constitution first find out why our health system is collapsing and also find out why large chunk of our budget end up into the pocket of tender crooks

  • braamc - 2012-03-05 22:14

    Like everything else non existant management, for the rest they (ANC) are all corrupt and spectacular thieves. Dishonest and hateful useless scum.

  • Tanie - 2012-03-05 22:15

    A letter of request. Dear City Press RE:SUGGESTION CLAUSES TO CHANGE THE CONSTITUTION BY THE ANC Could you please show us a copy which contains clauses suggesting the constitution changes. Yours Truly Not wanting to be taken for a mick.

      schalk.mattheys - 2012-03-06 14:39

      Oom, a cut and past from the todays Zimbabwe Herald, "JOHANNESBURG — ANC is contemplating dramatic changes to the country’s Constitution, including scrapping the “sunset clauses” and changing the powers of the Reserve Bank and provinces. City Press is in possession of draft policy documents that were distributed to the party’s branches yesterday ahead of its policy conference in June. The documents are likely to shape the direction of government programmes if adopted at the ANC’s national conference in December. In a section on strategy and tactics titled “The second transition”, the ANC says the Constitution of 1996 “may have been appropriate for a political transition, but it has proven inadequate and even inappropriate for a social and economic transformation phase”. Other points to be discussed include:- The fact that people think the party has lost its moral compass, represents a self-serving elite and is soft on corruption;- The party is facing a “crisis of credibility” and people are beginning to doubt its capability to deliver social and economic change;- The principle of ubuntu should be introduced to the school curriculum; and- HIV and Aids should be made a notifiable disease. The ANC also criticises government communicators for not effectively conveying service delivery successes and says terminology used by Planning Minister Trevor Manuel’s National Planning Commission is in conflict with that of the party.

      schalk.mattheys - 2012-03-06 14:40

      cont... "The commission speaks of a “capable state” while the ANC wants a “developmental state” that drives and controls economic growth. On the ANC Youth League, the party says its relationship with the youth wing is important and should be “debated openly”. The ANC proposes recruiting children for the ANC from the day they are born, establishing a state-owned publishing company to iron out problems with textbook distribution, introducing compulsory community service for all university graduates and pushing ahead with a media appeals tribunal. The party will also discuss introducing a BEE code for the print media sector. The party states that South Africa’s “first transition”, which it calls a “political transition”, was about finding a national consensus and a “framework based on the sunset clauses of the negotiations”. The sunset clauses relate primarily to land and property ownership. But these are proving “inadequate and even inappropriate for a social and economic transformation phase”, or the “second transition”, which South Africa is entering. Constitutions are “living documents and reflect the stage of development of a given society”, the ANC says. Therefore, “there may well be elements of our Constitution that require review because they may be an impediment to social and economic transformation”. This includes the “narrow mandate of the Reserve Bank or the relationship between and powers of the different spheres of government”.

      schalk.mattheys - 2012-03-06 14:40

      cont.. "The ANC also does some introspection, admitting that its “moral authority” and that of its leaders is being “called into question” and that it is “either framed as having lost its moral compass or as representing a self-serving elite”. The party says it’s being seen, from the outside, as a “neo-patrimonial political machine to distribute power and resources among ourselves”.

      schalk.mattheys - 2012-03-06 14:47

      cont.. "It says even though much of the corruption has been exposed by measures the ANC itself has put into place, “we continue to appear soft on corruption” Something to really think about, even if the clause was "removed" its a crystal clear indication of where the ANC wants SA to go...

  • Michael - 2012-03-05 22:28

    I find it hypocritical for some of you to call for ammendment to section 11 (Chapter 2) of the constitution whilst on the other hand you advocate that ANC must not touch the constitution.

  • Bobo - 2012-03-05 22:38

    Vote ANC : Together we can do more CRIME.

  • Renier - 2012-03-05 22:57

    Where there is smoke there is fire!

  • brionyl.french - 2012-03-06 05:27

    Turn Malema Upside down and shake him, He has stolen so much money, he could have fed and educated and medicated the entire Limpoopoo

  • hein.huyser - 2012-03-06 06:22

    Can't believe anything the cANCer say, never will, never have. It's time for change

  • sandy.langenstrass - 2012-03-06 07:51

    If the South African government have witnested the sorry history of Zimbabwe....why would they follow in the same tracks Mugabe took to destroy that country. Answer.. they actually don't care what happens to the people..as long as their coffers are over flowing.."I'm alright Jack, stuff the rest of you"

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