ANC revolt over Malema

2011-08-28 10:21

Johannesburg - There is an open revolt in the ruling party over this week’s Waterloo disciplinary hearing against ANC Youth League president ­Julius Malema.

City Press is in possession of audio material in which senior Limpopo ANC leaders aligned to Malema can be heard urging league members to revolt against the ANC leadership for bringing misconduct charges against him.

An emergency meeting was held in Polokwane on Tuesday.

This came as the league was making plans for a massive show of force for its president and his executive, which faces unprecedented disciplinary charges on Tuesday and Wednesday.

- It could be Malema’s Waterloo. “Even if we are fired tomorrow our blood will remain black, green and gold,” said the embattled youth leader on Friday night.

- The youth league’s plans for a massive march on Luthuli House on Tuesday were met with opposition from Umkhonto weSizwe Military Veterans Association chairperson Kebby Maphatsoe on Saturday.

“We would like to plead with the youth league not to be emotional and respect ANC processes ... We will not allow anybody to threaten the ANC. If need be we will defend the ANC with our lives,” said Maphatsoe.

- In five provinces, urgent league council meetings are being held on Sunday to bring out a show of force onto Johannesburg’s streets on Tuesday and Wednesday.

- ANC Youth League structures in all provinces are mobilising their members to support those charged: Malema and his deputy Ronald Lamola; secretary-general Sindiso Magaqa and his deputy, Kenetswe Mosenogi; and treasurer Pule Mabe.

Johannesburg Metro Police spokesperson Edna Mamonyane on Saturday said the league had not been given permission to march but thousands of members were expected to converge in the vicinity of Luthuli House from Monday night.

This is the same strategy that was used by President Jacob Zuma’s supporters during his rape and corruption trials.

  • v3 - 2011-08-28 10:28

    Clearly, the "disciplinary procedure" - like the Misrule of Law in South Africa - is about power, patronage and position and has nothing to do with right or wrong. Jacob 783, Mpshe, Hofmeyr and their like have a lot to answer for.

      vegetarian - 2011-08-28 10:50

      Hofmeyr who, Steve Hofmeyr

      Grant - 2011-08-28 10:55

      @veggie HUH! The man may be a racist but he is not criminally corrupt!

      BoB - 2011-08-28 10:57

      Revolting against a disciplnary procedure- that`s rediculous!How can the youth league try intimidation and fear tactics to bully its parent body.Its unacceptable,hope the ANC will grow some balls for these clowns

      tiotudg - 2011-08-28 11:07

      Vegetarian, Arme kind, kom by.

      vegetarian - 2011-08-28 11:08

      I concur regarding the moron Mpshe for undermining South Africa's justice by letting the scoundrel off the hook, on spurrious grounds.

      Macho Mike - 2011-08-28 11:30

      Eish, the African National Circus is about to become the African National Crisis party. The tail she is wagging, the dog she is excited, the master he is worried, and the peoples she wait and watch. African have to's simply a case of do as i say, not as i preach, then destroy if you do not get things your way.

      Met - 2011-08-28 11:30

      But look how sly is the ANC. Who is in charge of disciplinary matters? Derek Hanekom, a white man who can conveniently be disposed and become the fall guy. Watch what is coming

      Clementine Gumede - 2011-08-28 11:44

      This issue is going to need a 'Nicholsonic Intervention' It's astonishing how a Nicholsonic Intervention 3 years ago has now resulted in chaos upon chaos that could have been foreseen. Just like Haley's comet - it happens once every 75 years.

      Spyker May - 2011-08-28 11:58

      "...a show of force..." Surely they are not talking about the ANCYL - a mob of semi-stoned, physically inept, nincompoops with the intellect of frozen mince meat - wait, that will be insulting 'frozen mince meat'.., led by a tsotsi who could not make a chair at school. Seeing we can already flush away our aspirations of retaining the Rugby World Cup, the next best thing would be, watching the police beating these feckless oxygen-thieves senseless. But wait - that would be impossible...

      Sky - 2011-08-28 12:08

      Do not underestimate the ANC leadership. They are going to sort out Malema. You'll see.

      DoublySalmon - 2011-08-28 12:08

      Once they start assembling and singing Kill the Boer these riots can easily turn in to genocide. I'd keep well informed and ready to flee the country should it be required.

      cliffarc - 2011-08-28 12:13

      - This country is being run by militant youths and by the rule of frenzied, uneducated, uncontrolable marching mobs. The Anc are no longer in control of their creche . The consequences could be ugly and the country's future bleak.

      THE.SRG - 2011-08-28 13:13

      knew this was coming,just like the youth brigade in zim....we have a bigger problem here than most people think...not even malema himself will be able to control his masses...the ball has started rolling people,wake up to it

      THE.SRG - 2011-08-28 13:26

      Genocide watch level 7 here we come,red flags are up and the sirens are howling....why cant people see whats happening here.

      PinkAndProud - 2011-08-28 13:41

      WTF! How classic is this. Everybody on this site needs to read this link:

      debrakayestylist - 2011-08-28 13:47

      Like "Moeletsi Mbeki FOR President" on facebook if you want some real sensible leadership in SA

      THE.SRG - 2011-08-28 13:54

      @P&P....saw that coming too,all coinciding with the big problem coming ahead

      Sunshine - 2011-08-30 09:27

      His day will come. Karma !!!!

      Foreigner - 2011-08-30 10:15

      I have a solution to a disciplinary problem: Instead of using tear gas, rubber bullets, human shields etc, COULD SOMEONE PLEASE INVENT AN INSTANT STERILIZATION GAS?

  • clayton.bezuidenhout - 2011-08-28 10:28

    The Difference is that Zuma never opened his mouth agains the people who put him in power. It is time for Julius to step down and accept defeat. No amount of marching a protesting will get the bigdogs to lie down. Lets just not hope that the ANCYL gets Physical. This country has seen enough of that. - 2011-08-28 11:10

      Actually, let us hope that the *yoof leak membahs* DO get physical. This has been brewing for a while ever since PSH used them to get rid of Mbeki. We need to get these racist and uneducated pigs out in the open, so let them try and get physical then we can get rid of them once and for all.

      Kgomotso - 2011-08-28 12:24

      Malema was put to power by ANCYL members and he has never said anything against ANCYL members. ANC is charging Malema for comparing President Zuma leadership with that of Comrade former President Mbeki and there is nothing wrong in comparing learship. Secondly for the comments he made about Botswana. ANC upholds democratic processes the people of Botswana have spoken with their vote they have democratically elected Rre President Kgama to be their President ANC is right to call Malema into order on this matter because his utterrance undermines democratic choices of Botswana people.

      SolomonMagalefa - 2011-08-28 12:33

      @Kgomotso - at last a factual comment without any rhetoric. The facts are indisputable.

      Steve Wonderboy - 2011-08-28 13:19

      I wanted to say the same thing

      Nasdaq7 - 2011-08-28 14:05

      He urged his followers to participate in the overthrow of a democratically elected country.

      JP Miller - 2011-08-28 14:36

      Of course they are going to get's a given.....they will trash everything in sight, loot, burn.....the point is the police don;t control even strikers, so how will they control a mob of louts?

      Wishbone - 2011-08-28 22:09

      I think the ANCYL should be disbanded because they are not fulfilling their mandate and dealing with youth issues. Instead they are engaging in main stream politics for personal benefit.

      O'forth - 2011-08-28 23:27

      To those genociders. If it becomes violent it will be Black on Black mostly. Internal politics with selected assasination more likely. Keep your head down and your options open. If you want to remain scared and mistrustful of everything African you should move on to another country. Patriotic citizens who believe in this country should see this chirade as an oppertunity for change and not a catastrophy for the future.

      CyberDog - 2011-08-29 09:56

      @SolomonMagalefa So what you are saying is that the ANC is fence sitting. Either you are a government organization and a public representative, or you are not, you cannot be both. The ANC stopped being a one man mickey mouse show when they became the government representation for South africa. They are accountable to the public, they cannot selectively decide what is or is not in the publics interest. The whole youth league has been causing massive damage to South africa in many different ways. By not doing anything, the Government has allowed this. Accountability should now be taken, and yes this is a public matter, not some internal glitch, it has gone long past that a long time ago. And I understand your embarrassment at how this makes the government and the Youth league look like, especially for all the poor souls that have been standing behind them through thick and thin... Apathy, Truth, Accountability and Equality ... That is what I want.... clearly this is not what the ANC or the ANCYL wants. What do you want ?

      SolomonMagalefa - 2011-08-29 11:11

      @CyberDog - you want "Apathy" as well... are you sure about that?

      CyberDog - 2011-08-29 18:58

      Yeah Yeah, pick on the one spelling mistake.. empathy already.

  • Aj - 2011-08-28 10:29

    And so the dog turns on it's master.

      Craigr - 2011-08-28 11:47

      Bring on more division's within the ANC. A fractured organisation will slowly destroys its self. :)

      Sky - 2011-08-28 12:09

      That my friend is very true....

      Sky - 2011-08-28 12:12

      Now the real Malema is coming out. Now we can see what he truly is. In the ranks of the ANCYL there are many that wants to see him go. They just can't say it openly at the moment.

      JWM24 - 2011-08-28 12:45

      Yeah, and there is no honour among thieves

  • SolomonMagalefa - 2011-08-28 10:30

    Totally misleading headline. Since when does healthy debate constitute revolt? Debate is what characterises a healthy democracy. The media should leave the ANC (and any other political party for that matter) to sort out their own matters.

      trevor06 - 2011-08-28 10:33

      Dude, they are 'OUR' servants, we should be as involved as we can, but thats the problem, we aren't!!!

      umhlopo - 2011-08-28 10:38

      this is not a debate sunshine its a free for all power struggel

      George - 2011-08-28 10:38

      Debate? please explain to me how pullin gup in thousands constitutes to debate? Who will talk and who will listen? epesially if all are singing and jumping around. Yes, go for dabate.

      valleyman - 2011-08-28 10:38

      Sort them out how exactly? By protesting in the streets with all the resultant damage that this seems to cause? Grow up Solomon, if this were purely an internal matter then it would be seen as such. The morons in the ANCYL have chosen to take it to the streets, which means we are all affected, one way or another...

      grod - 2011-08-28 11:06

      This Idiocracy is Revolting!. If they march will it be a mass debate??

      anfield - 2011-08-28 11:06

      Debate is when two or more parties with different points of view gather to rationally discuss an issue. This lot up North, by encouraging others to illegally oppose this hearing are in revolt. Are toy some kind of fool or just another agitator? By you mentioning the media should leave the ANC alone. Yeh, you'd just love that. Obviously you are one who may have an undisclosed bank account?

      SolomonMagalefa - 2011-08-28 11:17

      I stand by my statement. To add to that, if all of those who don't agree, why not join an ANC structure? Then you will have a vested interest and are entitled to debate the matter. Until that time, it's none of your beeswax!

      trevor06 - 2011-08-28 11:24

      I'm not BEE , so the quota system won't allow me to join :) lol

      Al - 2011-08-28 11:25

      A healthy debate? Wtf?

      SolomonMagalefa - 2011-08-28 11:40

      @trevor06 - is that meant to be a joke? @Al - absolutely yes. Debate = where two or more speakers present their arguments intent on persuading one another... get it?

      gatvol4corru - 2011-08-28 11:45

      Do you know what the words "public servant" means? Look it up -- in sevrice of the public! The ANC has placed themselves on a pedastel,wasting money,poor service,tender for mates. You work that out

      trevor06 - 2011-08-28 11:49

      generally a 'lol' and a smiley face at the end of a sentence means its a joke, yes! But the punch line of this one, is the ANC government!!!:) lol

      trevor06 - 2011-08-28 11:51

      the sad thing about that joke, is its true!

      SolomonMagalefa - 2011-08-28 12:02

      @Goose - I find it utterly disheartening that you are willing to exercise your right of expression in such an irresponsible manner. Seriously, if you are willing to make such prejudicial judgements of black people purely on the basis of their skin pigmentation, then you are a very sad person. It is people like you that provide the opportunity for Malema to say whatever they like... that makes it so easy for him to justify what he says. You seriously need to do some introspection about how you see things and be more careful about what you say. You probably will not be able to add an iota of intelligent comment to answer this but I don't really care - you are a sad sad little person.

      SolomonMagalefa - 2011-08-28 12:06

      @gatvol4corru - yes I do know. Seeing that you have mentioned that, perhaps you would like to tell us where Malema was elected for public office. He wasn't - correct? Thus, I stand by my statement that it's an internal ANC matter. The internal matters of political parties are just that; INTERNAL and not for consumption by people who are not constituents of theirs.

      PinkAndProud - 2011-08-28 12:28

      Goose - Spot on!

      Mangwele - 2011-08-28 13:24

      You are right and wrong - that's debat??? Don't leave "them" to sort out "their.... matters". This is OUR COUNTRY Bro so we have to be IN THERE SORTING OUR matters!!!! What better place than OUR media - OUR REPS.

      shelley.nott - 2011-08-28 13:27

      Dude, where is the debate? Having thousands of people dancing on a street corner with, lets face it, little idea as to exactly wtf is going on or why they are choosing to support a clearly corrupt man against a justified disciplinary procedure (well, lets face it though, this disciplinary procedure has nothing to do with following the laws and everything to do with plain old power struggle) - is that your idea of a debate? Maybe you should look up what a debate is, because this is soo far from the definition of debate it is scary. And why the hell should the people of South Africa keep their noses out of the business of the ruling party - reminder here: ruling party means SERVING party, the party that is supposed to serve and look after the people of the country. They arent some private company that affects no one else, they are accountable to all of us.

      Phillip - 2011-08-28 13:29

      I totally agree...Much ado about nothing. We give politicians far to much media attention. We feed the frenzy. a vicious circle.

      AM Library - 2011-08-28 13:30

      Agreed, healthy debate does not constitute revolt and political parties should sort out their own matters. The problem (as I see it) is that Julius Malema made public statements about Botswana. It did not remain an internal affair, raised only with the ANC leadership. If this report is accurate, it states "City Press is in possession of audio ­material in which senior Limpopo ANC leaders aligned to Malema can be heard urging league members to revolt against the ANC leadership for bringing misconduct charges against him." What it all boils down to, is many people do not understand the responsibilities that go with freedom of speech.

      Nasdaq7 - 2011-08-28 14:07

      Malema doesn't accept or tolerate other viewpoints.

      jen - 2011-08-28 14:54

      It's the ANCYL who are threatening to revolt. The media are simply reporting on what is happening - I haven't heard of a plan for journalists to march on Luthuli House

      daaivark - 2011-08-29 08:06

      With respect, Solomon, this issue affects South Africans, so it is everybody's beeswax. Alignment to any dogmatic party is not wise.

      Baddy - 2011-08-29 08:19

      @SolomonMagalefa - Shut up u clown!!!

      Susannomore - 2011-08-29 13:21

      But they do plan to revolt! re·volt (r-vlt) v. re·volt·ed, re·volt·ing, re·volts v.intr. 1. To attempt to overthrow the authority of the state; rebel. 2. To oppose or refuse to accept something: revolting against high taxes. 3. a. To feel disgust or repugnance: to revolt at a public display of cruelty. b. To turn away in revulsion or abhorrence: They revolted from the sight. To fill with disgust or abhorrence; repel. See Synonyms at disgust. n. 1. An uprising, especially against state authority; a rebellion. 2. An act of protest or rejection. 3. The state of a person or persons in rebellion: students in revolt over administrative policies de·bate (d-bt) v. de·bat·ed, de·bat·ing, de·bates v.intr. 1. To consider something; deliberate. 2. To engage in argument by discussing opposing points. 3. To engage in a formal discussion or argument. 1. To deliberate on; consider. 2. To dispute or argue about. 3. To discuss or argue (a question, for example) formally. 4. Obsolete To fight or argue for or over. n. 1. A discussion involving opposing points; an argument. 2. Deliberation; consideration: passed the motion with little debate. 3. A formal contest of argumentation in which two opposing teams defend and attack a given proposition.

      JR - 2011-08-29 13:47

      healthy debate is one thing. Calling for the overthrow of a democratic country is commonly known as treason which Botswana has a nice neck stretching cermony for culprits. As to malema "being a racist and not criminally corrupt" I would love to budget like he does on a salary of less than R50,000 and can afford a R16million house that will cost a minimum of double his declared salary. It is a criminal offence not declare all your income. It is also a criminal offence to receive paybacks for organising tenders which again you do not declare to SARS as well as explain how you can afford huge amounts to pay your bodyguards. Dont tell me he is not a criminal. Prove he is not and let SARS audit his income and business activities

      Shivermetimb - 2011-08-29 14:05

      @SolomonMagalefa, the reason why it is a public matter and not an internal one is because Malema has made it so. For example, labelling all whites as criminals takes the debate very much into the public arena. Commenting on Botswana brings the country into disrepute, which affects all in SA. I can add to the list but hopefully you get the point.

      JMan - 2011-08-29 15:07

      @ Solomon - again with this? please go read up the term "democracy" and what it means for the public who elected the government in place. Are you telling me that the government may control an entire country, make all the decisions, and the public, who DEMOCRATICALLY elected them, have no say when things go wrong? Wake up.

      JCTF - 2011-08-29 19:25

      Solomon, did you see what just happened right here? Even when you made a fairly decent remark about racism, half the people gave it a thumbs down. You know why? Because of all your other drivel, and I'm afraid it is indeed drivel. And this my friend is exactly why nobody is ever going to listen to Julius Malema. Even if he has a good point to make, he can shove it, because he has discredited himself as a logical, mature, respectful man with any sense of reality. Much like you did before your one good comment. Nobody cares what you think, and seeing as this is a democracy, maybe you could step back and have a look at the vote count for your comments and realise something useful.

  • chappy - 2011-08-28 10:30

    And so the roost is prepared..

      tryanything - 2011-08-28 15:41

      Maybe a roast..

  • beicime - 2011-08-28 10:30

    How sad. Some people don't understand that leaders are accountable and accept that some can be above the law even if a political party's law. This is why Africa is a loser continent.

      Thandi - 2011-08-28 12:06

      Not a loser continent - a lost continent.

  • Gomez - 2011-08-28 10:31

    How can one party be so polarised to its youth wing??Its because the youth wing thinks they run the show and have no respect.This could turn out very ugly.I hope so ugly that the youth wing gets dissolved and in turn they start their own weak little party which means the DA grows ever stronger!

      Thandi - 2011-08-28 12:08

      I agree - lets hope it gets really ugly, then we will see who has any guts. My bet is that showerhead will back down first.

      Sky - 2011-08-28 12:16

      Nah, I don't think it will turn out ugly. Few marches and protests, couple of dustbins.. Once the writing is on the wall, the new ANCYL leadership will take over quickly and normalize things..

      Kgomotso - 2011-08-28 12:52

      Have you realised DA is quite on Malema and ANCYL opinion on land issues only AFRIFORUM why the truth of the matter is AFRIFORUM are racist farmers fighting for economic survival they are in that industry but DA does not want their veiws to be know here they might loss white support. They are trying all angles to silence him put the message is already on paper the youth of Mzansi will carry the debate and push for economic freedom.

      chappy - 2011-08-28 18:13

      @ Kgomotso: You sir are thick as half a brick (I'd be insulting a whole brick if I compared you to a brick). Have a look north to Zimbabwe what happens when the farmers leave. We need the farmers desperately, or else all our food becomes imported, causing massive unemployment of unskilled labor, pushing up food prices, raising inflation and therefore interest rates, leading to an economic crisis. Maybe you should consider what these farmers do for our country before spilling your racist diatribe.

      Richard Townley-Johnson - 2011-08-29 17:23

      @ Kgomotso.. I really didn't understand what you were saying. The one thing I was able to interprete is you saying that AFRIFORUM are a bunch of farmers fighting for economic survival... You are wrong, they are a bunch of farmers fighting for their life because of the mentally crazy and racist Malema! They obviously want the man that is encouraging their deaths to be quiet.

  • Vela Stardust - 2011-08-28 10:32

    Hope the ANC don't chicken out. The radical views of Malema and the ANCYL must be ended. They are a gross embarrassment to every South African. Malema is trying old style dictatorial politics to take power. He needs to be taken out and fast!

  • Beam me up - 2011-08-28 10:33

    Perchance he for whom this bell tolls may be so ill, as that he knows not it tolls for him; and perchance I may think myself so much better than I am, as that they who are about me, and see my state, may have caused it to toll for me, and I know not that.

  • Slapper - 2011-08-28 10:36

    The ANC is and always has been a revolting Party. Whats New?

      Sky - 2011-08-28 12:19

      Its funny that the biggest enemy of the ANC turned out to be one of their own...

  • umhlopo - 2011-08-28 10:36

    malema and co have been plotting to take over the anc,they have been found out. All that remains is to see if the old boys have the guts to cut them down to size.If they dont do this properly and speedily then i fear we will have another mugabe running things

  • derkus - 2011-08-28 10:37

    thank goodness I am in Cape Town

      NowOrNever - 2011-08-28 10:44

      Thank goodness I am in Poland.

      john - 2011-08-28 11:23

      Thank goodness I am in ebriated.

      darkwing - 2011-08-28 11:28

      John, John. I concur. Ebriated sounds like a good place to go to.

      Grayman - 2011-08-28 11:28

      Hey john, howcome your writing isn't blurred? he he.

      Sky - 2011-08-28 12:21

      Why? You gona miss all the fun! :)

      DoublySalmon - 2011-08-28 12:30

      Thank goodness my family is safe outside of South African borders.

      cliffarc - 2011-08-28 15:43

      - Thank goodness I'm getting outta here - Derkus , that I'm afraid is absolutely no guarantee of safety from a power hungry, constitution trashing , democracy be buggered Anc party. They will engineer the control of the Western Cape , by foul surreptitious means, when the time is right.

      Sinudeity - 2011-08-28 17:03


      Sinudeity - 2011-08-28 19:51

      Brave men and women fight for that they believe in. Cowards flee.

      Marc - 2011-08-28 22:23

      Thank goodness i'm in NZ.

      Jack Andrews - 2011-08-29 12:52

      @Sinudeity Anyone who still believes in South Africa is a fool. Getting out is not cowardly, its prudent.

  • infidel - 2011-08-28 10:38

    Go Julius, show us you are the leader of South Africa, and put an end to this mad scramble for power from the youth league.

      Nikelle - 2011-08-28 10:58

      I totally agree with you . Show us you are the true ruler Julius you can trully unite South Africa when we go libyan style on your Qaddafi ass .

      Sky - 2011-08-28 12:24

      Look and listen... You will find the link, Malema, Winnnie, Sexale.... The ANC leadership are not stupid, I bet they know exactly what is going on.

      croix - 2011-08-28 21:34

      Sky - finally someone who SEES the real story behind the presented story - which is the 'revolt' to COVER UP the biggest 'graft, corruption and looting' in the history of the planet! Wake up and smell the off- shore amassing of looted capital. Feel free to ask Fana Hlongwane what he's been up to for his 'close friends' in politics!

  • Sinudeity - 2011-08-28 10:38

    The 'open revolt' is in Limpopo. Im sure most of the ANC politicians there are tenderpreneuring and depositing into juju's trust-fund.

  • Vela Stardust - 2011-08-28 10:39

    There are youth leaders waiting in the wings of the ANCYL to take over from Malema. Bring on the day we see and hear the last of him!

  • Baas Frik - 2011-08-28 10:40

    The ANC is a totally devided. organisation. Some say therein lies it's strength but I say it will eventually destroy them.

      Andrew Ampers Taylor - 2011-08-28 10:47

      Especially with the DA almost doubling its vote at every election.

      Gomez - 2011-08-28 11:27

      Lets hope the dumb youth league thinks they are so big and strong that they start their own party.The ANC in turn will loose all the votes of the YL supporters which means an indirect growth for the DA.Viva DA!Viva the future of SA!

      Grayman - 2011-08-28 11:27

      Yes Baas, things seem to unravelling pretty fast for the ANC. It looks like Jesus is coming a lot sooner than we thought.

      wiledog - 2011-08-28 17:01

      absolutely true... a house divided against itself, cannot stand...

  • Anna - 2011-08-28 10:42

    malema is a spoil brat which doesnt respect elders

      50something - 2011-08-28 11:30

      He does not respect anything that is not in his favour

  • Rightway - 2011-08-28 10:43

    ." We will not allow anybody to threaten the ANC. If need be we will defend the ANC with our lives,” said Maphatsoe." .... Hopefully the ANC and ANCYL will destroy each other and SA will get back to sanity.Oh for a post ANC South Africa.

      Goose - 2011-08-28 11:35

      Right you are, may the morons in these parties totally destroy each other once and for all. Gatvol of this childish crap!

      JMsays - 2011-08-28 12:04

      I LOVE those words: "Post ANC", it has a beautiful ring to it!

      Kgomotso - 2011-08-28 12:53

      describe sanity.

      THE.SRG - 2011-08-28 13:38

      If the start destroying each other we not gonna be so lucky as to sit back and watch my friend,this will be very bad for us.

      wiledog - 2011-08-28 17:04

      @ kgomotso... a truly democratic society where everyone respects each other's culture, where everyone respects the rule of law, where corrupt officials are swiftly dealt with... etc etc. but you are totally indoctrinated by your ANC's Marxist philosophies... i pity you.

      grod - 2011-08-28 22:27

      @Kgomotso. Sanity?? 99% of mad people don't believe they are mad. If you do the same thing time after time and expect a different result chances are you could be insane. Have yourself checked Bru..Hate you to stuff up a vote next time..

  • call a spade - 2011-08-28 10:43

    Utterly misleading headline. It should be " OPEN REVOLT IN THE LIMOPOP BRANCH OF THE ANC"which is basically a poop in national terms. News 24 STOP undue sensational journalism Hope they post this comment.

      anfield - 2011-08-28 11:14

      Love your non de plume, 'call a spade' Gerrie Coetzee when he went to the UK to fight Frank Bruno said in his pre fight press conference with Bruno, over a South African issue, "I call a spade, a spade" Bruno went in bulk, then proceeded to see off Gerrie in one round. Little did Gerrie kn ow that "spade" is a cute and humorous nickname for a black person as "snowflake" for a white person. Yer gorra lawf aint yer!

      Sky - 2011-08-28 12:03

      I agree, misleading. Besides this little fatboy's 'support' is highly over exaggerated. Spoke to the lady that works for me the other day, and just out of curiosity i asked her what does the people think about Malema? She made it very clear that there in the township most people hate him. She even told me a few things that i didn't expect she will know eg. the R16mil house, and the trust fund that is used to wash money... It just shows that even people that can't read and write knows what is going on and are well informed.

      SolomonMagalefa - 2011-08-28 12:26

      @Sky - Ouch! You just hurt my eyes. They hit a read-bump with your mangled English/spelling/grammar. The "lady" who works for you is either stringing you along, or is in the minority. He has a HUGE groundswell of support - particularly amongst young black African adults. Do yourself a favor and play "devil's advocate" with a few and tell them that you think he is doing a good job - I would guess that at least 8 our of 10 would agree.

      Sky - 2011-08-28 13:02

      Solomon, would you rather prefer I use the Queen’s language so that it will aid your understanding? Your unequivocally urbanized grammatical abilities astound me. Thanks for the advice, but we have an excellent relationship spanning many years, I therefore believe her.

      Drewka - 2011-08-28 13:24

      @Solomon, I don’t think that you have a clear view on the situation. People that supported the ANC for all their life, and some of them who lost people close to them during the struggle will not lend their support for a militant, corrupt useless fatboy like malema. Don’t think because of the ANC supporter’s lack of education the cant reason properly. The ANC have to take a stand against malema or the whole organisation would be split in the next conference .

      SolomonMagalefa - 2011-08-28 14:07

      @Drewka - agreed, but where exactly did I say that that the ANC will not deal with Malema? They have already publicly disassociated them seleves from statements made by Malema/ANCYL, when these were not aligned with government policy. As for his disciplinary hearing, as I have already stated, it remains an internal matter not for public consumption.

      jen - 2011-08-28 14:57

      Read comments page on You will soon seen that he has nowhere near the huge support he thinks he has. In fact, only the minority (and most uneducated and silly comments) support him. The voting majority are far from stupid.

      Susannomore - 2011-08-29 13:34

      re·volt (r-vlt) v. re·volt·ed, re·volt·ing, re·volts v.intr. 1. To attempt to overthrow the authority of the state; rebel. 2. To oppose or refuse to accept something: revolting against high taxes. 3. a. To feel disgust or repugnance: to revolt at a public display of cruelty. b. To turn away in revulsion or abhorrence: They revolted from the sight. To fill with disgust or abhorrence; repel. See Synonyms at disgust. n. 1. An uprising, especially against state authority; a rebellion. 2. An act of protest or rejection. 3. The state of a person or persons in rebellion: students in revolt over administrative policies

  • Stevie - 2011-08-28 10:44

    Malema is revolting !

      JCTF - 2011-08-29 01:19

      Yes he is, but no more so than the ANC for not shutting him up and firing him ages ago.

  • Paul - 2011-08-28 10:44

    Amazing. The YL is quick to shout that this is an internal matter and must be dealt with behind close doors and now suddenly their supporters are called to streets. Typical thug mentality. No other organization is involved here. Always the same elements involved the "Elite" shoving and pushing at the trough.

  • Sinudeity - 2011-08-28 10:45

    I KNEW from the start and jacob and juju would be the end of the ANC. Not some AWB member, not afriforum, not steve hofmeyer, but ANC members :P

      Sky - 2011-08-28 12:35

      I agree, but not with Jacob Zuma. I know allot of people don't like him, but think what he has done over the last couple of years? Did he cause harm? Is he trying to create jobs? Give credit where its due. I think he is a good president, and I hope he will go for another term. He just needs to get rid of this poison within the ANC. If he can do this, I will support him.

      Sinudeity - 2011-08-28 14:38

      Sorry Sky, I disagree. Jacob will go down as one of the worst presidents in SA history.

      Sky - 2011-08-28 19:18

      I have been noticing your line of thought here, and at some other places on the net where you hang out. If I may use the words of Winston Churchill “History is written by the victors.” So it would depend on whose history you are referring to?

      Sinudeity - 2011-08-28 19:31

      Sky - You trying to through an apartheid card? Who's history? My comment was a reflection on the future of South Africa, not its past. PS, how does jacob compare to mbeki and mandela? Out of the 3 presidents we've had in the democratic South Africa, jacob is definitely the worst. He signed the NATO/Libya bill without knowing what it meant. He promised 500,000 jobs during a global recession. His MP's have cost us a R1 billion so far on upkeep, and its not even his 1st term yet. Please tell me why you think jacob is a great president?

      Sky - 2011-08-28 20:40

      Sinudeity, I am not trying to throw anything, and what NATO\Libyan bill was signed by SA? Anyways, looking at post-apartheid South Africa, we had Mandela, what portfolio did he chose in the transitional cabinet in 1994? Please answer that. Mbeki, had an absolute obsession with black vs white. Numerous angry outbursts… And then Mr. Zuma. Tell me, out of these three, how many visited white informal settlements? And let us not forget who had to deal with Snake Sexwale and Fatboy Malema. So in comparing apples to apples, in my opinion Mr. Zuma is doing much better than anticipated and much better than his predecessors.

      Sinudeity - 2011-08-28 21:10

      My comment didnt get posted for some or other reason, so I will comment again: "What NATO\Libyan bill was signed by SA?" - The NATO no-fly-zone over libya bill which was signed by jacob. Which jacob didnt read or didnt understand. "We had Mandela, what portfolio did he chose in the transitional cabinet in 1994?" - President? "Mbeki, had an absolute obsession with black vs white. Numerous angry outbursts." There were far fewer racial outburst under Mbeki, then what there are under Jacob (ala julius). Mbeki's final chapter in his book was also written by Willie Esterhuyzen, who is a close friend of Mbeki's (helped negotiate the end of apartheid with Mbeki). "And let us not forget who had to deal with Snake Sexwale and Fatboy Malema." - Mbeki didnt take ANY nonsense from the ANCYL or Julius. "Out of these three, how many visited white informal settlements?" - All of them, especially just before elections. Some more points to take into consideration. - Jacobs wives are costing us hundreds of millions in upkeep. - Jacop committed adultery twice while president (that we know of). - He never answered for his corruption charges. - He has no foreign policy, merely shakes the dong that will enrich his family the most (ala India and China).

  • keng - 2011-08-28 10:54

    Head of defense also sides with Julie. I smell a revolt coming on.

      THE.SRG - 2011-08-28 13:42

      you dont know how right you are,we whites will suffer the most when this happens

  • mcirha - 2011-08-28 10:56

    thank goodness i have already turned my back on africa iam in paradise in europe where everything works....

      djmilano.26 - 2011-08-29 10:28

      Bull sh88t nothing works there what is it that works your economy ? thats complete crap

  • Karel - 2011-08-28 10:57

    if you want to play with the big dogs, you must learn to piss in the long grass.

  • whereu - 2011-08-28 10:59

    ANC split on the cards? Sooner or later!

      Sky - 2011-08-28 12:38

      No not a split, a small fraction maybe... Sometimes its better to cut loose some bagage.

  • Vickers - 2011-08-28 10:59

    Great news! Juju most survive. If they fire him the ANC will flounder forward for many a year causing grave damage to this country. If he stays the ANC will implode within the next few years and we can start buiding and repairing the damage sooner rather than later.

      OuWitBooi - 2011-08-28 11:54

      Juju did more single-handedly to grow the vote for the DA in the recent municipal elections than all the DA campaigners combined. Especially amongst the educated and property owning blacks who can see that they will be the biggest losers under the ANC in the future. In every marxist controlled country from Russia to China to Cuba and North Korea this has been the group that has suffered most. So I agree with you - we want Juju to stick around for a while longer to do more damage to the ANC. Unfortunately I cannot see him surviving the disciplinary hearing. The ANC cannot afford to have him around any more. They know that his criminal and fraudulent activities will soon have him in court and then in jail, and they cannot afford to have a top ANC person in that position. Zuma was heading the same way, but they managed to side step the court hearing. Juju has too much evidence against him and he will go down. The ANC want him out before that happens to him. Pity for the DA.

      Sky - 2011-08-28 12:42

      I agree ouwitbooi, Malema saved the DA allot of campaign expenditure. He did it FOR FREE

      djmilano.26 - 2011-08-29 10:40

      @ ouwitbooi the votes DA got were the votes from ID not from ANC

  • michael.e.bowery - 2011-08-28 11:00

    Someone once wrote `Friends - (Romans) and countrymen lend me your ears' in this case senses. The time for joking about Julius is long past. The ANC and by that token all of us,(countrymen)are very, very close to a counter-revolution. Going back to its own 1980 Tripartite Conference this may turn into the `Second revolution where the S.A. Communist Party take over the running of our government from the ANC. Rule by Malema's rabble is not something to joke about. You don't have to be Nostradamus to see where this is all going.

  • anfield - 2011-08-28 11:00

    Get a wee bit proactive ANC for pity's sake. Easiest thing to stop all the neanderthals invading Joburg. They're having to travel by bus. So they will be mostly on the freeways. Road blocks 50kms or so out of town set up road blocks and turn them around. Don't let them get within smelling distance (pun intended) of this once clean and prosperous city. Otherwise I foresee a few fatalities.

  • CPII - 2011-08-28 11:00

    Yes! YES! You go guys! YOU GO! Fight! FIGHT! Split loomig! Two dogs fight over a bone, the third runs away with it alone! VIVA DA!

  • Dirk du Plessis - 2011-08-28 11:01

    Malema's biggest friend in the league are shurely the Treasurer- the boy with the chequebook

  • jontheb - 2011-08-28 11:03

    if it's unlawful, get the riot police ready with permission to use maximum force!!!

  • vegetarian - 2011-08-28 11:03

    News24 please stop writing crap. Since when has expressing one's views been regarded as a revolt. We know you are doing this deliberately to stroke the egos of your rightwing readers. Even if your machinations succeed in removing Malema from the political scene, the wishes of the collective will eventually see the light of the day under a new champion.

      CPII - 2011-08-28 11:08

      Yes! But then the ANC will be split :)

      vegetarian - 2011-08-28 11:53

      @Leonard Yes daddy

      gatvol4corru - 2011-08-28 11:55

      Big words comrade. Pity you are not affray from the true meaning.You and Solomon share a brain with Juju?

      Chris - 2011-08-28 12:15

      @ Vegetarian Are you telling us that another Malema clone is already plundering state coffers then? Certainly it is revulsion that is fuelling this mutiny by the juniors. The are revolted by the fact that the gravy boat is being emptied faster than what they can plunder it.

      Sky - 2011-08-28 12:46

      hehe veggie, you speak the lingo huh? :) expressing, deliberately, rightwing, machinations, political, collective - its very funny ;)

  • mcirha - 2011-08-28 11:05

    all my friends are packing to europe because of this malema

      tiotudg - 2011-08-28 11:12

      Wie gee om?

      IDDQD - 2011-08-29 10:19

      Will you stand by your resolute mutterings your daughters, your family members and friends are butchered by these neo-Hutu, Zimdoctrinated youth league members? When Malema forces Zuma to abdicate, like Mbeki was forces before him, how long will it take Malema to move from 'Nationalising' mines and farms to 'Nationalising' your home and daughters. Do you have a plan B?

  • morecats - 2011-08-28 11:09

    And all this BS over the reigning in of a shiny fat Telly Tubby caught with his grubby paws in the cookie jar. The Joof Leak idiots are all as dumb as mud and their OBE education is shining through the holes in their brains. Juli-ass should be kicked to the gutter where he belongs and the best case scenario would be the ANC splitting in a couple of factions fighting one another while the rest of the sane people are getting on with their lives in SA. What a bunch of embarrassing fools are congregated in LootFreely House at any given time!

  • johnnymacza - 2011-08-28 11:10

    typical what else did we expect. surely we did not expect fair behaviour from a people who never came out of dark ages?

  • blanco_pta - 2011-08-28 11:18

    Malema is becoming monster and is slowly destroying the ANC from within its core. This is a disgrace in the party. Zuma enjoyed the ridiculous recalling of Mbeki which was orchestrated by Malema because it was to his favour. Now the fat boy is striking directly at him but destroying the whole congress in the process. ANC revolting against ANC is history in making and not a good sign to the loyal patriotic members of the ANC on the ground. Zuma should put an end to this circus and disrespect of legacy built by shedding of blood and loss of lives otherwise he must as well step down as president of the country. We cannot allow children to run a household while parents are still alive.

  • Jean - 2011-08-28 11:18

    god save us all its not a colour difference that is gonna plunge us into civil war no its Umkhonto weSizwe and the ANC VS The ANCYL and ANCWL i put y money on umkhonto weSizwe coz they already won one revolution here with barly firing a bullet

  • AgPseDaddy - 2011-08-28 11:19

    Die KAK kom!!!!!!!!!!

  • zumonia - 2011-08-28 11:21

    Ha-ha, hie-hie you commentators, thanks, I enjoy your funny remarks. Words are not stronger than the sword I mean knobkierrie, so whatch - you might get moer'd.

      DanG - 2011-08-28 13:55

      For uneducated people the sword is mightiest, but belief me the pen IS mightier than the sword.

  • Peeved - 2011-08-28 11:22

    Here we go again, Malema and the youth league are nothing but thugs in suits.

  • Jeremy - 2011-08-28 11:26

    Ready for WAR! Lets hope these racist bastards kill each other off so the rest of us can build a new country of true equality and ethic values.

  • Cynic - 2011-08-28 11:27

    The demise of the ANC has been predicted to be within the next decade or so and here I think we see the beginning of this end. When a "ruling party" so desparately requires the voting base of the youth in order to stay in power they had better be sure that they are able to control the youth. However with the lack of basic family and societal values such as respect, trust, honesty, law abiding, disciplined and so on and so on being obvious amongst, especially the "ruling populations" youth then I am afraid Zuma and company are pretty screwed. Which leaves us Malema and company and well then we are all screwed much like the rest of africa.

  • vegetarian - 2011-08-28 11:27

    @Mcirha All your "friends are packing to Europe". Your friends are extremely idiotic. They could not have chosen a worst destination: the cold continent the unfriendly continent the bankrupt continent the backward continent with its rampat blood fewds South Africa is a destination of choice for all nationalities. What you call problems here are actually regarded as minor glitches by people who come from other countries. South Africa is in the top six in the list of the most sought after places to relocate to. Since 1994 South Africa has received more than 600 000 immigrants from Britain alone. South Africa is the only country in the world to host all known nationalities. So no one has ever viewed South Africa in a poor light because of Malema. Stop rubbishing this beautiful country.

      casabanderas - 2011-08-28 11:50

      Judging by your description of Europe you have never been there. I now live in Spain. The people are amazingly friendly; I sleep at night windows open and no bars to keep robbers and murderers out; I can walk home at 2AM without fear; I can leave my belongings in my car without knowing they will be gone when I get back; I don´t have razor wire and electric fencing surrounding my property;I don´t need armed response; if there is a crime committed the Guardia don´t take long to find the culprit; I don´t have to put up with all this crime and corruption in SA unles I choose to read an SA paper online; and finally we get a decent cup of coffee here. Cold continent...35 degrees while Bloemfontein is recording minus 5????? Bankrupt...Our GDP is still better than SA and so is our growth. Get real and realise what you are living in.

      vegetarian - 2011-08-28 11:50

      @Leonard South Africa is not loved because of your taxes. It is loved because of its modern rules and freedom brought by the government that you hate so much. I am not surprised because you are only used to apartheid repression. Also it is the black people who pay more tax. The majority of workers are black even on your companies, thus the taxes pulled from your companies' profits are the sweat of our people. Also the majority of buyers who pay vat on purchases are our people. Now you see how stupid your crap about white people paying tax is?

      BnQE - 2011-08-28 12:20

      Vegy Vegy Vegy - where do you get your information from - 600000 immigrants from Britain since 1994 - that's 3125 per month over a 16 year period, Leonard is right, what are you smoking - but then again you are probably not. You probably spend most of your time with your head in the soil - you carrot ...

      Thandi - 2011-08-28 12:25

      @vegetarian - can I suggest that before you compare SA with a civilised country that you live for a while in an environment that can be deemed civilised. You will then start to realise just what a lost cause most of Africa is.

      PinkAndProud - 2011-08-28 12:40

      VrotCabbage - Do you know the world isn't flat? You obviously have never left your shack in Limpopo and have no experience whatsoever of Europe or any first world country. Your backward comments are proof of that. Book a ticket on one of those big silver birds you see in the sky and educate yourself as to the way things should work. You'll soon see that Africa is nothing but a bowl of dust being run by troglodytes.

      PinkAndProud - 2011-08-28 12:43

      @VrotCabbage - your comment about blacks paying more tax is laughable and bringing VAT into the equation is an even bigger joke. Ever heard of PAYE? Now tell me how many blacks contribute towards PAYE and how many blacks have got off their backsides and established businesses and pay company tax? There are 5 million tax payers in the country and they're forking out for 15 million grants? Crikey, but you're a simpleton.

      PinkAndProud - 2011-08-28 13:36

      @VrotCabbage - Here's the link, educate yourself.

  • Macho Mike - 2011-08-28 11:29

    Eish, the African National Circus is about to become the African National Crisis party. The tail she is wagging, the dog she is excited, the master he is worried, and the peoples she wait and watch. African have to's simply a case of do as i say, not as i preach, then destroy if you do not get things your way.

      Thandi - 2011-08-28 12:26

      Anarchy Nepotism Corruption - need I say more?

  • jaruu - 2011-08-28 11:31

    @grant and that does not make steve less of a moron

  • pam.benink - 2011-08-28 11:31

    Malema now being confused with Napoleon??? Oh well, guess its all good as long as they meet the same fate...

  • BoerSeun - 2011-08-28 11:35

    is this the beginning of the end for the anc?

  • scud - 2011-08-28 11:40

    Disgusting--who thought de Klerk's vision would lead to this rotting state of affairs,and this rotten lot?

      Piet - 2011-08-28 11:42

      De Klerk started this my friend. He's the main culprit.

  • BnQE - 2011-08-28 11:42

    One very interesting week in the history of SA coming-up ...