ANC slaps Trevor Manuel on the wrist

2011-03-08 12:43

Johannesburg - The ANC slapped National Planning Minister Trevor Manuel on the wrist on Tuesday for acting like a free agent in publishing a scathing letter against government spokesperson Jimmy Manyi.

"The NWC [national working committee] further appealed to all ANC members to stop and refrain from behaving as if they are free agents who speak as individuals, reflecting comments that are not informed by policy," ANC secretary general Gwede Mantashe said in a statement read to reporters in Johannesburg.

Asked if he was referring to Manuel, Mantashe replied: "We refer to Trevor Manuel or anybody who is a member of the ANC... [because] to act as free agents as they wish, then you might as well not have an organisation so it's not only about Comrade Trevor, it's about everybody."

Last week, Manuel wrote an open letter to Manyi in which he called him a "worst-order racist" following comments by Manyi last year that there was an "over-supply" of coloured people in the Western Cape.

Defence of Manyi

Manyi's comments made headlines after the Solidarity trade union last week posted the Kyknet interview in which he made them on YouTube.

He later said he had been speaking in his capacity as president of the Black Management Forum.

Opposition parties called on Manyi to step down. The SA Municipal Workers' Union (Samwu) called for his head.

Mantashe chose to defend Manyi.

"Anything that it catches, smells. That's what it looks like in the case of Jimmy Manyi. Up to now, nobody has raised the question of incompetence on the part of Jimmy.... In my own view, I think it's a question of hatred for change," said Mantashe.

  • Straight Forward - 2011-03-08 12:52

    Manuel, you deserve what you get. "You sleep with dogs, you will get fleas"

      Paul - 2011-03-08 13:04

      I hope he swings over to the DA. That will be a big blow to the ANC - 2011-03-08 13:07

      The DA would welcome him with open arms if the supposed ruling party don't want him.

      The Observer - 2011-03-08 13:09

      Straight. Why are you scratching so much?

      Paco7 - 2011-03-08 13:14

      the only dog is Jimmy Manyi and the fleas are Malema and company

      stiffler - 2011-03-08 13:15

      Thats fine, he can join the DA, he'll be around people with brains at least. But lets face it, the ANC will still be in power for years to come, those fat cats wont just give up power. So can you imagine they type of idiot they'll put in Trevor's place if he has to leave?? Then this country will be stuffed for sure. Any one know of professional assasins by the way??

      Brad - 2011-03-08 13:16

      I see two things happening here:- (1) Trevor Manual is part of the break-away from the ANC; or (2) Trevor Manual has shrewdly tried to gain the Coloured Vote by voicing his opinions on their behalf - not anticipating that, by doing so, the ANC now look even worse off than before. In any event, the ANC does not win.

      E.Nuff - 2011-03-08 13:21

      Indeed - The ANC has taken it's racial agenda from the old national party. They are just as racist, just as bigotted, just as indefensible, and just as wrong.

      Dan - 2011-03-08 13:33

      I hope Straight Forward is not referring to coloured people as dogs. He must be just another sick ANC supporter.

      Pokkels_LOL - 2011-03-08 13:36


      Straight Forward - 2011-03-08 13:55

      You people that do not understand the saying "you sleep with dogs, you will get fleas", FYI it means that he has associated with the ANC for a long time, now he's getting his just rewards, and no racial connetation intended. This is especially for Dan & closedeye, who seems to have major chips on their shoulders, and Dan, I detest the ANC. Were you part of the matric class of 2010?

      schjus008 - 2011-03-08 13:56

      If you voting in May please choose either the DA or another party not the ANC

      sempi - 2011-03-08 14:14

      do you realise that your hateful labelling of the anc is furthering a devide in our people?critisize with reason offer solutions strengthen your views with collective minds and challenge in the polls.if you call the anc dogs,what should the anc call you and the rest of your like minded people?

      Fortesque Wallrustitie - 2011-03-08 14:54

      You know what Straigh Forward, the lesser educated individuals on this forum will take anything out of context as they have no idea what euphemism, sarcasm, alliteration, insinuation etc are or how to use them in a debate to get a point across. All this while conveying a serious point of view. I am finding the above (racist and ignorant) replies to you frustrating as they all have an agenda to defend the ruling party even when it makes gargantuan mistakes. Always like your comments by the way, keep em up

      rade8408 - 2011-03-08 15:09

      @ Sempi ... Its a saying. Like dont count your chickens before they hatch? or grass is greener on the other side? Stop being overly defensive and educate yourself.

      Pharo - 2011-03-08 15:24

      I think that Trevor would be more likely to ressurect the UDF than to join the DA.

      Sparxi - 2011-03-08 15:25

      @SMB3: There is no "oversupply" of any group anywhere, whether in SA or in the rest of the world... Our local and regional demographics are the result of historical trajectories particular to those areas which were combined to form what we now call South Africa. Apart from "forced removals" or "constructive disemployment", I don't see how some artifical "national measure" can possibly be used to dictate such matters at local and regional level. Next thing you know I must make sure that my kids reflect the "national demographic"... Come on people, close mouth and engage brain...

      MarxMan - 2011-03-08 21:01

      @smb3 It is clear that you do not understand the meaning of "oversupply", therefore, I will TRY to educate you in this regard. "Oversupply" (a noun) means more of an amount of something than is desirable, necessary or fitting. So when Mr Manyi states that there is an oversupply of coloured people in the Western Cape, he believes that it is not necessary or suitable that so many coloured people reside in the Western Cape. When Mr Manyi makes such sweeping statements we must ask ourselves "why does he say this?". Does he have contempt for coloured people, does he believe they would serve a better purpose residing in another province or is it just that he is expressing a racist view? Consider if (Helen Zille, Jacob Zuma or Pratricia De Lille - whatever offends you the most) were to say that there are too many (black, white or coloured - once again choose whatever makes you feel the most irate) people living in South Africa, he/she would not only be chastised locally, but internationally as well, for expressing such overtly bigoted views. Personally, I think Mr Manyi should be more considerate about racially charged comments, especially when one bears in mind our legacy of Apartheid and the fact that most South Africans are sensitive to this matter.

      Sheda Hab - 2011-03-09 08:33

      The A N C is a BLACK RACIST PARTY with a grudge against coloreds and Indians.

      AllHoliday - 2011-03-09 09:26

      @ Dan & sempi, what are you smoking?? Do you know the meaning of 'figure of speach'??? Well, "You sleep with dogs, you will get fleas" is a 'figure of speach!!! The same as 'You are known by the company you keep'. Pay a little attention, you might just learn something. Stop distorting everything to suite your own political agenda!!

      abs230653 - 2011-03-09 11:13

      You're right StraightForward ! I did think he had more grey matter than the rest of the Cabinet, but then again there might be a hidden agenda. You never know with this lot !

  • - 2011-03-08 12:52

    Yeah so when Jimmy Manyi makes racist comments no-one says anything about Party policy but when Trevor stands up and does the right thing he gets a slap on the wrist? Ok. Now I see how it works.

      Jaco - 2011-03-08 12:56

      Yeah was thinking the same thing. They give Trevor slap on the wrist but nothing about the guy that made the racist comments WTF!! Tells us something....

      Johan Kruger - 2011-03-08 13:00

      Yes, it show you what type of people the ANC is. Very dangerous and can not be trusted.

      rammstein.f4n - 2011-03-08 13:00

      The ANC is basically siding with Manyi and brushing off the coloured community.

      CheekySod - 2011-03-08 13:00

      Thank you ANC. You could have condemned the RACISIM of your members. Instead you opt to gag the one member of the government that had the guts to speak up. Now take the letter of Trevor Manuel to Jimmy Manyi and place your own names under Jimmy Manyi. The letter is now relevant to every ANC member that is not standing up against racism. ANC should also be renamed to National Party. You are the same.

      Felix - 2011-03-08 13:09

      It must be because the racist slander Jimmy spews forth is ANC policy-----"The NWC [national working committee] further appealed to all ANC members to stop and refrain from behaving as if they are free agents who speak as individuals, reflecting comments that are not informed by policy,"

      stiffler - 2011-03-08 13:19

      Welcome to SA boet, the land of the greedy, corrupt and negligent. Said it before and i'll say it again, this Govt has no vision and no planning skills. They live for now and only now, and its now that they want to fill their own pockets with tax money!

      Stephan - 2011-03-08 13:20

      Trevor gets slapped for making "comments that are not informed by policy" while Jimmy's comments doesn't even cause the lift of an eyebrow. This does in fact mean the policy of the ANC is that you can only be racist if your comments are directed to or at a black man. Isn't that what we all knew all along about the ANC? All men are equal, except those who are more equal than others...

      Darkie_Ekasi - 2011-03-08 13:43

      He wasn't talking as an ANC memeber but rather as BMF member which was within his right to fight for transfomation, you idiot

      Point Blank - 2011-03-08 13:48

      @Darkie_Ekasi, the BMF, and that would be a blacks only forum right?

      Christiaan - 2011-03-08 14:36

      Everyone is missing the point! The anc doesn't need the coulored or indian comunity to stay in power so they don't care. They need to keep the masses uninformed to retain power, hence they keep directing blame to other people just like their best friend Mad Bob up north

      twolips - 2011-03-08 15:09

      @Christiaan. If the ANC doesn't want/need the "coloured" and Indian vote then those two groups should see the light and vote for the DA. Surely they should by now know that the DA is not the 'bring back apartheid' party that others think it is. Let's see what the ANC thinks then!

      Zee - 2011-03-08 15:20

      @twolips - and you think the DA won the Western Cape by chance? Coloured people make up the majority in the WC - do the math...

      SaintBruce - 2011-03-09 13:29

      So then I read that the ANC "Policy" is to recruit / promote totally Racist members into high office for the 'non-racial discrimination" party and that what Jiimy manyi said IS in line with the "informed policy" as they have not been sanctioned at all - then, and now! Secondly - the government has admitted that their OPEN INTENTION behind the Amended EE Act is to deal with white domination in business. Should all white owned business just 'strike' for a week to see the effect on the economy???? ANC Policy then must also contain the terms "coloured people in the Western Cape are in a state of over population" - Their remedies? 1) Forced removals via 'economically active demographics' - move them like the India/ pakistan partition. 2) Remove the problem - a la Pol Pot ( exterminate to balance numbers) 3) Move blacks in large numbers into those areas to 'balance' the equation ( this is easier if you have an 'over supply' of unemployed blacks then use point 1 to enforce their employment. Here's another solution - every business fires all blacks and recruits only Indians, white and coloureds and then the "economically active demographic" is re-written to suit the minorities! Only...that won't work as the economy will probably stop immediately. The racism crap needs to stop now - from the top as it will only make this country go backwards fast. The ANC are not doing themselves any favours and Manuel wrote his letter in his personal capacity anyway. free speech?

  • Tchaik - 2011-03-08 12:52


      GetitRight - 2011-03-08 20:30

      Nou Ja....dis lekker by die see! *sigh!* Past the POPCORN.

      Jenny - 2011-03-09 07:42

      Seriously though! Our government is just a joke!

  • DarkAngel - 2011-03-08 12:53

    Maybe they should rather slap Julias MalEmma in the face!!!! He gets away with everything

      Felix - 2011-03-08 13:00

      with a baseball bat...

      As-it-is - 2011-03-08 13:07

      I couldnt have said it better Dark Angel... - 2011-03-08 13:08

      With a 10 pound hammer

      Paul - 2011-03-08 13:09

      I deleted my own comment after reading yours...bravo.

      Other Justin - 2011-03-08 13:32

      with a sniper bullet between the eyes.

      kgomo49 - 2011-03-08 13:33

      They will not, malema speaks for the ANC. I think soon Malema would replace manyi

      Soapbox - 2011-03-08 13:37

      I don't want to break my 10 pound hammer!!

      Maryanne - 2011-03-08 13:45

      Spot on man, I agree with you!

  • tshepotheterminator - 2011-03-08 12:53

    good no freed blaady agents in the Sexy classy smooth sweet gorgeous ANC... manual you have benefited well from the ANC you are a rich man with millions in your bank account because of the ANC never forget who made you who you are boy..... it is cold outside the ANC ask lekota and shilowa, today they are crying and begging to be back in the ANC but we will never let them back in once you are out you are out.....then it feels like your wife just divorced you and you go through a serias depression on medication and you cannot sleep or eat and you lose weight and eventually go mad.... so behave yourself or you are out!!!

      Gallows - 2011-03-08 12:57

      See kids, the above is the a good example of why you should stay in school. Lest you make a fool of yourself on the internet.

      rammstein.f4n - 2011-03-08 13:02

      Nevermind the internet, I'd love to witness him going about his daily life.

      Felix - 2011-03-08 13:03

      Nice Gallows :). Tseps is drinking too much today...

      Darkie - 2011-03-08 13:06

      Tshepo, are for real chap.....WTF is this,go back to school my bo and finish your woodwork

      Reality - 2011-03-08 13:08

      The ANC didn't get him where he is. He probably would have been further if he had gone into business. I am sure he sacrificed that in the belief that he will be able to try and guide the ANC into something decent. It is very difficult to soar like an eagle if you associate with vultures.

      colin langley - 2011-03-08 13:08

      and the retard keeps on speaking...and the rest of us still roll on the floor laughing

      As-it-is - 2011-03-08 13:09

      Wakakaka!!! you must change you name to tshepotheIDIOT - 2011-03-08 13:09

      Tshepo - I'm guessing you failed a few more subjects than woodwork....

      cristinatjie - 2011-03-08 13:09

      a good example of a true ANC member, arrogant racist people..

      Random - 2011-03-08 13:10

      I give up. Do you actually listen to yourself?

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-03-08 13:10

      @Rammstein - This sorry S.T.D, aka Tshepo the VERMIN ator has trouble breathing without ANC assistance or a government grant. I am astounded that 'it' actually manages to boot up a PC and then COMMENT. I feel 'it' should be standing with a collection tin somewhere (tarded chap old Tshepo)

      Zeth - 2011-03-08 13:11

      @ Gallows: Love it!!!

      nix - 2011-03-08 13:12

      What about all that Manuel has done for the ANC? How unfair.

      vladimir.lenin1981 - 2011-03-08 13:13

      Has the ANC made many of its' needy supporters rich, tshepotheignorant? Has it made you rich? I wish you would think, you are not a mindless drone. Too many people in this country are brainwashed by their political parties. That goes for all the parties.

      Grant - 2011-03-08 13:15

      rammstein - you do deal with tshepo everyday. He is the clerk at the lights and water counter, the booking clerk for your roadworthy certificate, the hospital porter picking his nose and refusing eye contact, the waiter with his dirty thumb in your food, the car guard who believes you incapable of pushing your own grocery trolley, the municiple striker turning over rubbish bins in the town center, the 25 year old in year 8 who burns the school when he does not pass. tshepo is everywhere, he has many clones. Does that not depress the hell out of you?

      Paul - 2011-03-08 13:15

      Tshepotheterminator aka Mr Kgomo works for first rand bank....

      Monique2011 - 2011-03-08 13:15

      are you drunk?

      Nice Guy - 2011-03-08 13:16

      that other coloured who heads up a major bank will also have be slapped. Man her ass is going to be black and blue. No more racisms when you butt be black and blue like the sahara

      tshepotheterminator - 2011-03-08 13:18

      whats with the racism gents.... you know you guys are my friends on here so why all me stupid and insult me??? i have not once insulted you??? what i said was between me and trevor yet you attack me?? i have not once insulted anyone on this site today yet you insult me??? talk about white arrogance??? i can assure you that i probably did better in school and university than most of you on this site so dont think you are clever...half of you probably dont even know how to put up shelving in your homes so dont talk about wood work here we are talking about intelectual stuff politics...grow up man whats wrong with you bunch jisis

      Homer - 2011-03-08 13:25

      Everybody who commnented on tsepo, shame on your'll for making fun of a RETARD

      rammstein.f4n - 2011-03-08 13:26

      I assure you sir, I am not a racist. It's idiots like you I can't stand.

      Perfume - 2011-03-08 13:27

      At least Manuel does not have an empty soup bowl this space oxygen thief, the Corrupt team are soon to be a taught a lesson!!!! The battle lines have been drawn, and we will be speaking the loudest come voting day. Like I said "watch this space" times and seasons do change, and Mr Manuel's time and season is up with the thieves. Let us paint a picture for you sheep followers, imagine Mr Manuel breaks away from the ANC, ask yourself how many followers he will have. Times and seasons are changing, and they are changing faster than we can say "oversupply"

      Collen - 2011-03-08 13:31

      Many of you who are swearing and reprimanding Tshepo don't seem to have a good approach on how to discipline "a child who has to be in class" as people who are well advanced than he is. All you do is say all these racist comments yourselves and call him racist ANC member. It doesn't help. When a child is out of line, we put him back to track, not scold him. I don't see you doing that. Pity racism is fought with racism...

      Felix - 2011-03-08 13:31

      Ag relax Tseps, most of us know you just trolling so you should be glad with the haters. They are, after all, the ones you are targeting with your ridiculous comments. If you want pats on the back go post on ANCYL FB page...

      Stephan - 2011-03-08 13:32

      There we go tsepo-what-ever!!!! Show your underpants in bright yellow and green and black, get angry, be rude, be ignorant, be whatever the average ANC member is suppose to be to be a true yellow and green and black misbred. Enjoy the rest of your miserable life, Mr Kgomo!!!!!

      kgomo49 - 2011-03-08 13:34


      AJ - 2011-03-08 13:42

      People, do tell, what is the attraction in replying to a troll?

      Slapper - 2011-03-08 13:56

      Should be called Tsepotheterminal. Its rabid rubbish like this that is killing this country. I hope you go before too many others catch your disease?

      closedeye - 2011-03-08 13:58

      Tshepo, you go dude, woodwork did wonders for your mind.

      wmutahi - 2011-03-08 14:00

      @tshepotheterminator - so are you saying the ANC is a cashcow?, enriching all who belong to it?. Your school of thought is exactly what is going to drive the ANC to the ground.

      wmutahi - 2011-03-08 14:06

      @tshepotheterminator "what i said was between me and trevor" - this cannot be between you and Trevor, Trevor is speaking for all south africans and you want to reduce this to "between you and Trevor"?. It's the like of you driving this country downwards by trying to make everything about themselves. e.g join the ANC - to get rich. "i probably did better in school and university than most of you" - true but how many educated fools do we have walking the streets. Conformists who need a script to do everything? Think critically and globally, individualism is like not looking beyond your nose.

      Sho Fukamachi - 2011-03-08 14:13

      don't feed the troll

      The Observer - 2011-03-08 14:20

      Tsepothepoooooes; told you to get back in your cage already.

      gizzy - 2011-03-08 14:25

      tsehpo, while I agree a lot of these comments are terribly racist. You need to ask yourself why people respond the way they do. You are always posting racist crap in the name of your beloved ANC! You reap what you sow!

      Enigma - 2011-03-08 14:29

      Tshepo, what makes you think...I take that back, you don't think, you assume. Why do you assume everyone commenting are 'gents'? Sexism? Bro, are you full of sh*t! You live in a dreamworld. Nah, more likely an ANC nightmare from which you are going to wake up still ignorant, racist, sexist and depressed. Get out of your tree and get a life. Trevor Manuel can look after himself, he is a mature and seasoned politician, not a pick-me-up like Jimmy Manyi who has to be protected and guarded by the rest of the ANC dimwits. Manuel said right from the start that he is speaking/writing in his personal capacity, openly and directly to Jimmy Manyi - man to man so to speak. Why now protect Manyi with Party policy? He should no longer be on the BMF. Talk about conflict of interest! Imagine a Coloured Management Forum with Trevor Manuel as President or a White Management Forum. Ag Moeder, can the rest of you see the screaming headlines? "WHITES START RACIAL FINANCIAL REVOLT", "COLOURED BUSINESSMEN WITHDRAW FROM BEE", ETC. Tshepo, still quietly now untill sundown please. We will save you some bananas for tomorrow. Promise. On my not ANC word.

      theoldmanofthemountains - 2011-03-08 14:29

      I think Tshepo is having us all on folks - "he" is probably some bored granny from PE who loves winding you all up, putting some "ANC-lovin" diatribe online & then standing back & watching the rest of us foaming at the mouth.

      ry4ncarpenter - 2011-03-08 14:31

      tshepo there was no "intelectual stuff" as you say in your post. What the hell does: "good no freed blaady agents in the Sexy classy smooth sweet gorgeous ANC..." mean. If your being serious then you know that the ANC is SELF ENRICHING themselves yet you support it while millions of black South Africans, never mind the rest suffer in poverty. This is what the African culture is all about - take take take. Nice dude you sound so intelligent just like the rest of the ANC supporters.

      Felix - 2011-03-08 14:52

      Jullusmalema, Thula umsindo.

      ocon777 - 2011-03-08 15:22

      hahahaha looks like ol tsheps is getting many hits. damn I might have to employ you in my marketing business. what's your going rate son?

      DT - 2011-03-08 16:13

      tsheps... it's just when you post something for everyone to see and then claim "what i said was between me and trevor" it ranks in as an epic fail.

      Jason van Beukering - 2011-03-08 16:33

      People what Tshepo says (in jest or not) is clear and very true; The current ANC leadership are all about lining their coffers: if you play by the rules that is; any dissenting voice is punished. Funny that the current government have managed to do in 17 odd years that which took the NATS over half a century to achieve. Trevor Manuel is a brave and honest if only we could for more just like him.

      schmerz - 2011-03-08 16:40

      @tshepotheterminator Perfect example of why the ANC must go, you just proved how corrupt they are and they cannot be trusted in any way Your logic is flawed, get out

      Karen - 2011-03-08 17:15

      At least Manual has some principles - there seem to be very few of them around amongst the politicians these days - I'd rather sleep outside in the cold and be able to live with myself than be popular amongst people with no principles, whose only objective it is to live decadent lives while people around them - the ordinary citizen that voted for the ANC - is STARVING!!!! How very, very sad ...

      Warren - 2011-03-08 20:05

      C'mon guys, stop making tshepothenutjob look so damn stooopid, he is doing a perfectly good job of it himself... once again!

      Charles du Toit - 2011-03-09 08:50

      @theoldmanofthemountains - I agree He/she is taking the piss on us 'Sexy classy smooth sweet gorgeous ANC.' LOL

      Manny - 2011-03-09 09:30

      The ANC did not give him his brains you stupid fuck, he worked hard for what he's got... BOY

      Manny - 2011-03-09 09:31

      Then again I don't blame you... it sounds like you are related to Malema. See kids, that's what happens if you burn the schools down.

  • colin langley - 2011-03-08 12:54

    No f'ing surprise there....ANC...the new NP apartheid regime. End of story...they spit in the face of the constitution and the freedom charter. I know why i need not bother with these f'ing pigs. Enjoy third world dictatorship fellow south africans!

      Sean - 2011-03-08 13:02

      Unfortunately, you are right!!

      noxcleva - 2011-03-08 13:48

      Jimmy Manyi is the future. You can start applying for your VISA because when we go to the polls on the 18 May, we will again put our faith in the African National Congress.

      The Observer - 2011-03-08 14:18

      notsocleva. Apply for your free medical , ANC gonna ass rape you.

      Parko - 2011-03-08 14:19

      @noxcleva : You might as well put your faith in a rock , the rock cares more about your needs.

      gizzy - 2011-03-08 14:26

      Yes baas notcleva!!!! feel better now?

      colin langley - 2011-03-08 14:48

      At the future for you Noxleva?....poverty... disease...aids...rampant shortages...sanctions...starvation....tribal war....dictatorship...genocide...That's a promise. SO yes...thanks for the advice..i will take that visa...but i will be one of those people who fights to see the west never givers you another handout.....the west can see africa's country after the other...destroyed by their so called leaders..what makes south africa any different? can the Chinese...they will devour you and spit you out. And i will be laughing all the way to the beach..somewhere were racism is not allowed to live..and neither incompetence...

      Christiaan - 2011-03-08 15:00

      Remember that the NP became part of the ANC maybe thats why the anc is now starting with Apartheid policy

      Psychotron - 2011-03-09 13:02

      @notcleva - So you support the racism then I see. Can't wait for your ANC to begin going for the whites, I will build a wall from all your dead bodies around the perimeter of my house.

  • Brandon96end - 2011-03-08 12:54


      Nice Guy - 2011-03-08 13:14

      Manyi must come and talk to my mircrophone

      Warren - 2011-03-08 20:10

      Be carefull, he might just touch you on you studio!

  • Mgayi - 2011-03-08 12:55

    Iyoo Mr Mantashe , you are not known for your quick response . . . what necessitated the quick response this time around ?

      Dave - 2011-03-08 13:07

      Manuel should have resigned already, if he doesnt now, he really wont have any credibility, but does he really care?

      Perfume - 2011-03-08 14:04

      @Dave.....exactly, why is Mr Manuel sticking around and allowing himself to be embarrassed like this. I would of picked up my things and said VOETSEK!!!!!!!

      Perfume - 2011-03-08 14:04

      @Dave.....exactly, why is Mr Manuel sticking around and allowing himself to be embarrassed like this. I would of picked up my things and said VOETSEK!!!!!!!

  • truthteller - 2011-03-08 12:56

    bloody agent

  • Logs01 - 2011-03-08 12:57

    ANC splitting by the seams. Becoming VERY difficult to keep a "pack of dogs" focussed on hunting together, when they have tasted "blood" and start a fighting frenzy with each other. Greed, money, power tend to do the same to people 'out of control'.

      Mr Hobbit - 2011-03-08 13:14

      LMOA- the ANC are so disorganised, they couldn't stick together if they were putu pap. I truly hope they screw themselves over so much, they will forget there is an election coming. The opposition parties must be rolling around, laughing! Hark - is that the sound of angels singing?

      The Observer - 2011-03-08 14:17

      It makes it more difficult when you have so many pavement specials.

      gizzy - 2011-03-08 14:28

      The only time they stick together is when they are at the feeding trough!

  • Leaveil - 2011-03-08 12:58

    The ANC is so Fcuked up look what they have for a president promising people jobs and it never happens yet new luxuary cars for his 200 wives and 8000 kids talk about being an idiot. Trevor should be president as he has more sense than the entire ANC.

  • DW - 2011-03-08 12:58

    So Manyi can make statements about Coloureds and Indians that the president has to come back to the country to countermand, but he did nothing wrong? Manuel, who had every right to respond as his relatives and friends could be directly affected, gets a slap on the wrist. Time to switch parties, Mr Manuel. Go where your know-how and abilities will be appreciated and where you wont get sidelined. It could be Cope (although that smells a bit rotten at the moment), IDC or DA, but I really think it is time to move on.

  • Tshane - 2011-03-08 12:59

    Man but the truth can sting when it hits eh, the ANC had a knee jerk reaction there LOL.

  • jasmin.haumann - 2011-03-08 12:59

    Ok so he got when is juilis getting slap

      Thandi - 2011-03-08 13:31

      You must be joking - JZ slap his protege and planned successor?

  • sanodn - 2011-03-08 13:02

    I wish more ANC members (black, coloured and white) would stand up for Trevor.

      Perfume - 2011-03-08 14:05

      Dont you worry sanodn, the voting polls are were voices are going to speak the loudest!!!!!

      Perfume - 2011-03-08 14:06

      Dont you worry sanodn, the voting polls are were voices are going to speak the loudest!!!!!

      Warren - 2011-03-08 20:15

      Eish sanodn, why are you feeling sorry for Mr. Automatic? It was all just an election tactic. Everybody knows it already, it's old news!

  • Kia4 - 2011-03-08 13:03

    Interesting observations by Mantashe that should be explored...

      Other Justin - 2011-03-08 13:38

      With a baseball bat....

  • zulufox - 2011-03-08 13:03

    Just leave ANC affairs alone! Focus on your small parties, Cope, UDM and da... who, together, can not even amass 20 percent of the national vote! you envy ANC's popularity! Thumb-sucking AGENTS!

      Sean - 2011-03-08 13:11

      Not at all, we deplore their self serving incompetence and lack of respect for the country that feeds their lavish lifestyles, but this is not something i'd expect you or other ANC supporters to recognize. - 2011-03-08 13:12

      Ok little Julius wannabe.......

      bobmaree - 2011-03-08 13:12

      Leave them to rape you in the ass at night? Ok

      Point Blank - 2011-03-08 13:15

      It goes to show that only 20% of the population is educated..

      Walter - 2011-03-08 13:16

      I like the way you are thinking.... I am however not concerned. I stay in a nice house, sleep in a warm bed and don't eat maize meal 3 times a day. All the poor blacks can keep voting ANC, their children's children will still stay in the same shacks and live a dire life for years more to come! Viva ANC Viva!

      Thor - 2011-03-08 13:17

      HAHAHAH... your day is coming.... you will cry for your beloved party HAHAHAHa.... The bubble is getting bigger and one day... KABOOOM. COPE was just a small example of where the anc is going. Just give it time... The sad thing is they will probably take our country down with them... Your life will be cold without your anc because you have nothing else. HAHAHAHA you are defined by a political party.... So for the second time today... Give that man a banana.... HAHAHAHAHA

      The Observer - 2011-03-08 13:22

      Jes zulu I know, it must be hard that 80% of you cannot read or right and get caught by the ANC with a T-Shirt, packet of Simba Chick (BBQ chicken) and coke for votes every time, it must be hard having a brain of a gold fish, you know he has a 5 second memory. Shame, must difficult shi.ting in a bush.

      Mr Hobbit - 2011-03-08 13:31

      Ag shame, zulufox, can't take the heat? The beloved ANC is long gone, all you have left are the corrupt communist elite - you know the ones who like all the money, cars, houses, and personal stuff? Not really very communist, is it?

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-03-08 13:38

      @Zulupox - (you sound just as unpleasant as a bad case of smallpox) Might I remind you that 97% of South Africa's intellectual strength is housed in those "small, irrelevant" parties you mention. And when push comes to shove....intellectual strength will BEAT the numbers everytime my friend (not today, and not tomm, but once the intellectual strength has finally HAD ENOUGH OF THIS SH%T)

      Other Justin - 2011-03-08 13:42

      No you ignorant chop! We HATE them because they are criminal, dribling, moron, racist, rapist, fraudster, immoral, lier pieces of rubbish that are destroying our country. Envying the ANC is like saying I envy and piece of sh1t floating the the toilet bowl! Freaking id10t!

      DarkAngel - 2011-03-08 13:47

      yeah right, we cannot keep up with your numbers. We don't BREED, we have children that we can afford.

      Slapper - 2011-03-08 13:52

      Observe zulufu** The elections are coming. Go back to your Den and starve, or are you one of the protected species?

      The Observer - 2011-03-08 13:57

      I meant to say write earlier.

      Ingie - 2011-03-08 14:37

      yes because of all you are brain washed to vote ANC..what i dont understand is that you are not getting what you want nearly 16 years and still waiting. You will all wait until the cows come home, houseless. waterless, jobless (unless a majic wand can make millions of jobs)and of course no electricity. VIVA ANC...My ass Viva NOTHING> YOU SHOULD ALL WAKE UP AND SMELL THE ROSES

  • Sandy - 2011-03-08 13:03

    B-E-A_utiful. Let them be. Let them criticize Trevor Manual all they want. The elections is coming and guess which communities will be turning their votes (Those that haven't done so previously). The coloured and Indian communities will know exactly where they stand with the ANC. I love it when things like this happen just before elections.

      Perfume - 2011-03-08 14:06

      I dont know people are getting their panties in a knot, let the Corrupt say what they want to say now, at the polls that is where I will be speaking the loudest.

  • cristinatjie - 2011-03-08 13:07

    So everything Juluis says is ANC policy then ????????? ANC IS RACIST !!!

      Point Blank - 2011-03-08 13:15

      Yes we know this already...

      Thandi - 2011-03-08 13:29

      MalEmmer is only vocalising what Showerhead and his cronies tell him to say, because they don't want to be heard saying it themselves - not yet anyway.

      nick cole - 2011-03-08 13:35

      Jip. Remember Julius is being groomed for the next President of the ANC. What he says now can only be anc policy for the future. He is not that stupid. if he was he wouldn't be the president of the ANCYL. I remeber Mugabe spouting off in 1981 about how important it was to "reditribute" the land. Everyone then said he would be stupid to do that. Look at him now. The commercial farms are gone, they import food instead of exporting, and Mugabe? HE IS STILL THERE. President of the country who couldn't give a rats ass about his people. Give it 10 - 15 years. JM president, land gone, mines gone, people starving, FAT CAT JM in power. A.W.A

  • Andre - 2011-03-08 13:07

    I see the ANC loves to slap those that do right, but leaves those that do wonder the country is going down the drain...

  • bobmaree - 2011-03-08 13:08

    Protect your racist, epic fail yet again, worst still to come in rich creamy buckets of misery.

  • Ian - 2011-03-08 13:08

    Hope dear Julius adheres to this to!

  • Nice Guy - 2011-03-08 13:09

    A slap on the wrist in not hard enough. He needs a good back stabbing. How dare he criticize racisms. Its good to be racist like the rest of the ANC. Then you can use that as an excuse when you rape and pillage the countries resources

      Monique2011 - 2011-03-08 13:17

      um....he got not slap, Manual got the slap!

      Sandy - 2011-03-08 14:13

      @ Leaveil. Obviously you only read what you wanted to. Nice Guy was being sarcastic in the beginning. Please read his whole comment.

      Pocahontas - 2011-03-08 14:38

      @nice guy - Sarcasm ?

  • Francois - 2011-03-08 13:10

    The ANC is an organisation without principles. Manuel's open letter was based on principles. It would be a waste of time for Manuel to discuss a principled opinion with an organisation without principles.

      wmutahi - 2011-03-08 14:13

      @Francois - the ideals of the ANC are at hear geared towards the interests of ALL south africans. However the people leading this organisation are to blame for reducing it to a monster geared towards self interests. Individuals who will tread on everyone and anyone to keep themselves in power as they use government organs to enrich themselves. So please let's not blame the organisation but the individuals. There are still lone voices like Trevor manuel who are trying their best to keep the ANC's ideals alive.

      exocist - 2011-03-08 15:38

      WMUTAHI Trevor Manual is like a passenger on a sinking ship waving for the titanic to save him, (Trevor grow a pair and jump ship or are you just hot air) the ANC is a spent force, do something bold for your country and your name will echo throughout eternity

  • bill - 2011-03-08 13:11

    anc = racist scum

      Thandi - 2011-03-08 13:26

      ANC = Anarchy Nepotism Corruption

  • Picasso - 2011-03-08 13:11

    May this be a lesson for all non black ANC members! You might carry a ANC membership card, but at the end of the day you're not black and the ANC WILL turn against you.

      Homer - 2011-03-08 13:33

      I think you are right

      The Observer - 2011-03-08 14:11

      Well look at what happened with Piet Retief. Connot be trusted!

  • Mmamangane - 2011-03-08 13:12

    Every1 is entitled to their opinions right or wrong cde manyi is entitled to that 2. Manuel is just being tjatjarag he must plan for the country not act as spokesperson for coloureds!

      PB - 2011-03-08 13:43

      Manuel spoke for everyone who believes that the constitution is applicable to us all, not just the fat cats. Maybe the fact that he can do more than one thing at a time : plan for the country as well as act as spokesperson for coloureds or any other group / race is held against him. We all know that JZ, little Juju and his merry band of tiny tots can only do one thing at any given time (it normally entails either making babies or squandering money). At least Manuel is willing to stand by his principles and not jump on the "quoted out of context" bandwagon the moment he was criticised about his opinions.

      Point Blank - 2011-03-08 13:45

      As oppossed to Manyi? The problem with many black people is they actually only think racism comes from a white person, and they firmly believe black people are "allowed" to speak freely about other races... Pffft... the ANC are racist, period.

      Other Justin - 2011-03-08 13:45

      There is already an ANC plan for the country. SCREW SOUTH AFRICA out of everything worth anything and then blame apartheid! AMAUSELESS!!!

      Slapper - 2011-03-08 13:49

      Dont Write Sh*T. How come the same does not apply to anyone who speaks out about the ANC. Dope.

      The Observer - 2011-03-08 14:03

      Mmamangane - My opinion(right or wrong) is that Manyi is an animal who should go live with his mates in the bush. Zuma is a rapist, Malema and Floyd are lovers (I don'y know how they let them into Zim).

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  • alijmain - 2011-03-08 13:12

    A free agent?? Not a 'bladdy agent'?

  • Glenn - 2011-03-08 13:13

    Well seems Trevor is finally seeing the ANC for what it is , might make a few other members take a second look and realize they are on the wrong side ....

      wmutahi - 2011-03-08 14:17

      @Glenn - they are not on the wrong side, however, it's best they stick with the ANC and work from the inside to keep it's ideals alive. Moving away from it is like burying the dirt under the carpet, the stench will mess up the carpet and anything else nearby. Hence let's clean the ANC.

  • Brad - 2011-03-08 13:13

    I see two things happening here:- (1) Trevor Manual is part of the break-away from the ANC; or (2) Trevor Manual has shrewdly tried to gain the Coloured Vote by voicing his opinions on their behalf - not anticipating that, by doing so, the ANC now look even worse off than before. In any event, the ANC does not win.

  • Francois - 2011-03-08 13:14

    No it is a question of hatred for Coloureds you idiot.

  • Thandi - 2011-03-08 13:14

    But why does MalEmmer not even get a pat on the wrist - just proves that with all his rantings about nationalisation, he is not acting as a free agent, but rather with the the full blessing of the wankers in the ANCorruption.

  • Pokkels_LOL - 2011-03-08 13:16

    At one point I can’t believe!

  • Faahim - 2011-03-08 13:21

    It seems all the big guns are intimidated by intelligence and NATURAL competence, It think its time that the Minorities change the their vote and stand together, Afterall "the pen is mightier then the spear".

      wmutahi - 2011-03-08 14:25

      @Faahim - wrong, the moment people retreat into their little racial and community cocoons, the wreckers in the ANC will have won. They will have sown seeds of division among the people and that will buy them a lifetime in power. The ANC needs to be cleaned. This can only be done by the vote and within the organisation. Support people like Trevor who are trying their best to make sure the ideals of the ANC are upheld. We need to look beyong our races and communities.

  • Perfume - 2011-03-08 13:21

    Mr Manuel do us Coloureds a favour, pick up your jacket and leave the Boswell Wilkie Circus!!!!!!! Your season with them is over.

      thedaywalker - 2011-03-08 13:49

      yes please

  • VanBabs - 2011-03-08 13:22

    So nobody who is a member of an organisation, is free to have their own opinion. So everyone who sign up with an organisation, should think twice. Sign and you forfeit the right to you own opinion and the right to voice it. Afterall if you do not voice it, it is non existant

  • maseratifitt - 2011-03-08 13:22

    So you see? If you are ANC you are not free.

  • AFRIKANER - 2011-03-08 13:23

    It would seem the ANC has a special interpretation of freedom of speech, your are only allowed to criticize people outside of the ANC, anything else should be kept in the dark and under wraps - God forbids the ignorant masses catch on to what is happening in leadership. As a outspoken "liberal" I can only hang my head in shame, and acknowledge.. "you told me so"...

  • TGIL - 2011-03-08 13:25

    Of course they did, he's not black enough

  • paullouis.louw - 2011-03-08 13:25

    haha..being white means nothing. BUT you must be an idiot to believe the ANC when they say they are not racist towards anyone that doesn't have a black skin.

  • Pixie1984 - 2011-03-08 13:26

    Viva bloody free agent...

  • Kevin King - 2011-03-08 13:26

    For once some good news. I hope they fire him so he can go to a party that actually appreciates integrity and intelligence.

  • Other Justin - 2011-03-08 13:28

    Well there you go, official confirmation that the ANC is openly racist. They do not condem what Manyi says, but give Manuel a slap on the wrist instead, thereby condoning Manyi's comments. If you vote for the ANC, you are a racist, plain and simple, if you are an ANC supporter, you confiming you far left wing views and that you do not want equality and that you are 'downgrading' non-black South Africans to second class citizens, that includes coloureds, indians, whites and any other hue inbetween. IT IS OFFICIAL, THE ANC IS WHAT WE EXPECTED ALL ALONG, IT IS A RACIST ORGANISATION THAT PROMOTES BLACK SOUTH AFRICANS OVER ANY OTHER! VIVA AMAUSELESS VIVA!

  • Ivan - 2011-03-08 13:29

    Dear Trevor, its plainly obvious that you are not "Black" enough for the racists ANC. Time for change

  • Normaldude - 2011-03-08 13:31

    Open Letter to Mr Mantashe : Sir is the rumour true that Manyi was a wood work teacher ,Because he has the brains of a block of wood [PS No offence to Jules ] As for your comments - Me thinks you just lost the Western Cape : Arse Wipe

  • Tom Halle - 2011-03-08 13:31

    We are determined to make the ordinary Ugandan master of his own destiny, and above all to see that he enjoys the wealth of his country. Our deliberate policy is to transfer the economic control of Uganda into the hands of Ugandans, for the first time in our country's history. —Idi Amin Sound familiar?

  • Dan - 2011-03-08 13:31

    It's about everybody, probably except Malema. He is allowed to say whatever come up in his empty little sick mind

      Gaanake - 2011-03-08 13:42

      ...and Manyi, don't forget that!

  • wesleywt - 2011-03-08 13:32

    ANC are racist!

      Slapper - 2011-03-08 13:46

      Western Cape is held by Enemies???? What are you, apart from being a Moron? No wonder this country is sliding backwards. Its supposed to be a country for free voting South Africans of everyt colour, you stupid clown. WesleyT hit the nail on the head and you cant take it.

      Mr Hobbit - 2011-03-08 13:47

      kgomo49 - so now the coloureds are the ENEMY? Eish.

      bobmaree - 2011-03-08 13:53

      ANC are racist ANC are racist, yep you heard me, want me to spell it out for you? Are you blind or drugged? Do you have difficulty thinking?

      kventer - 2011-03-08 13:56

      @ kgomo49 How old are you???? mwhahahaha no man ... please! lmao

      kgomo49 - 2011-03-08 13:57

      Can i ask you, is the ANC your enemy? of couse you will say yes, so on your "devine" logic, blacks are the enemy?

      DW - 2011-03-08 14:01

      @kgomo49 - Actually Whites dont want the whole country back. Intelligent, hardworking people of all colours want the country back from a bunch of losers who are only in it for themselves. I voted for a "black" party before and would again if they represent what I think is best for this country. Can you say the same? If not, then you are the one who is racist and voting purely along racist lines and not on what is best for all.

      kgomo49 - 2011-03-08 14:01

      how can you make an argument if you dont know what you stand for?In the US, if i am an reblubican, and my neighbour is a democrat, and he happens to be coloured, now all of a sudden i vote against coloureds?what type of logic are you using?The DA is not just colourds, this is so typical of the reacist white minority

      kgomo49 - 2011-03-08 14:03

      @kventer, do you even know what the topic is all about.@bobmaree, you are typing, that means you are spelling it out

      Point Blank - 2011-03-08 14:18

      @kgomo49, so by your own admission the ANC is for black people? "Can i ask you, is the ANC your enemy? of couse you will say yes, so on your "devine" logic, blacks are the enemy?" Thanks for clearing that up that the ANC is a black party and members of different colours are merely window dressing.

      kgomo49 - 2011-03-08 15:04

      @point blank, once again, i prove my point.i was refering to the comment about the DA and coloureds. I can see you dont want to debate, you want to insult. well, maybe tommorow i have your job.

      Jack Black - 2011-03-08 19:20

      @kgomo49, so you say because I am coloured, I am now (by association) the enemy? Why don't you get a life. If I ever met you in Eldo's, Bosmont, Reiger Park or any of the great Coloured townships, you can bet your last dollar that I will fcuk you up!!!

  • Perfume - 2011-03-08 13:33

    The ANC has done the most foolish thing regarding Mr Manuel, the coming vote will be different from any other vote, and instead they keep pointing fingers and going back into the past, the past cannot bring them into the future, but the present will take them into the future. Mr Manuel is the present voice for the Nation of South Africa, not only for the Coloureds but for the entire Nation....times and seasons are about to change. One thing for certain Manyi & the fugitive has only helped to quicken Mr Manuel's time and season...shout me down but watch this space.

      bobmaree - 2011-03-08 13:52

      Nothings gonna remove the ANC anytime soon, stop dreaming...

      Mr Hobbit - 2011-03-08 13:55

      We can only hope and pray... Hear ye, hear ye, do I hear angels singing?

      gizzy - 2011-03-08 14:55

      You're right bobmaree but one day the money will run out and then?

      Perfume - 2011-03-08 15:08

      I say again bobmaree WATCH THIS SPACE....I am not typing in my sleep!!!! Times and seasons are changing faster than the word "oversupply"

      Perfume - 2011-03-08 15:10

      Another thing bobmaree, nobody in their wildest dreams thought Nelson Mandela would become president, nobody had the faintest idea that the National Party would be no more....time for a new season and time for change. You might wake up from your sleep and ask yourself "when and how did it happen"

      bobmaree - 2011-03-09 09:33

      The problem is democracy will have to be abolished before the anc will be removed, it is the same as zim. SA is being destroyed yet the anc is losing no power.