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ANCYL: Club a show of black empowerment

2011-02-01 09:46

Johannesburg - ANC Youth League (ANCYL) president Julius Malema's comment about a nightclub in Cape Town was meant to show that the party had made great strides in empowering blacks in ownership, it said on Monday.

"Contrary to what is reported, the ANCYL president said that the freedom and right for black people to own a club in a predominantly white territory is a freedom and right that came because of the ANC," the league's spokesperson Floyd Shivambu said in a statement.

"He (Malema) then made an emphasis that even the reactionary DA government cannot curtail that right because it’s now entrenched in our Constitution," Shivambu said.

The statement followed reports that Malema had said Western Cape Premier Helen Zille will not be able to stop the "ANC's nightclub" from opening with the province’s liquor by-law.

He was apparently referring to the upmarket ZAR club, launched in Cape Town's Waterfront on Saturday, at which sushi was served on half-naked women.

‘No interest in ANCYL nightclub’


The launch party was reportedly attended by scantily dressed models and was overflowing with champagne.

The club is owned by tycoon Kenny Kunene. Kunene also runs another upmarket venue by the same name in Johannesburg.

Kunene, reportedly Malema's new best friend, also allegedly indicated that Malema had his vote if he ever ran for president.

The ANC earlier issued a statement distancing itself from Malema's comment, saying that the party was not into nightclubs or partying, but was a revolutionary movement.

"The ANC Youth League and its president Julius Malema fully agrees with the ANC that "it has no interest in running a nightclub or in endorsing its owners," Shivambu said.

"We further do not agree with serving any kind of food on human bodies and have expressed this sentiment publicly in the past," he said.

Shivambu said this should not undermine black entrepreneurs who were breaking new ground and socialising more across racial lines.
 

Comments
  • AJ - 2011-02-01 09:55

    "made great strides in empowering blacks" - Yeah all 4 of them.

      Rolie - 2011-02-01 10:22

      Juli-Arse, your age has finally overtaken your IQ.

      rethan - 2011-02-01 10:43

      ANCYL = Bunch of uneducated kids trying to make as if the world cares what they think. What ever they say makes no difference, that jm can f#$k 0ff, no brains. All he cares about is wealth, f3ck the poor.

      Hans-Erik Iken - 2011-02-01 14:04

      Well mouth piece Shivambu is trying to put a nice spin on it with this. Fact of the matter is that the court jester JM once again made it public that the law does not apply to the ANC, its cadres, the Youth league,himself and his buddies when he said that Zille should "keep her liquor laws away from the ANC nightclubs". At least he is consistent in this, not only in his behaviour but also in his speeches he claims that the law does not apply to him and the rest of them. And his mouthpiece is now trying to get the attention away from the things that JM really said by putting a totally different meaning to the words. If this is what JM really meant he should have said so. It would still be bullshit, but at least he would not be making his contempt for the laws so public once again. If this twit is really the political future of the ANC (and with that the nation) it is sad indeed. There are many more well educated, well spoken and intelligent black people, both male and female, in this beuatiful country. But I guess they are busy making a success of themselves without theft, nepotism and other illegal activities to become a part of the ANC cadre. But why have this buffoon as president of the Youth league? It baffles the reasonable mind.

      Valkerie - 2011-02-01 14:46

      Julius' famous last words before his head rolls: "Let them eat sushi!" *sigh* We can but dream...

      John Seloa - 2011-02-01 16:42

      Dear JuliAss, I am black and beleive me I do not need to feed off naked women in order to feel empowered. I suggest you go back to school and you might feel truly empowered. Mike Tyson was empowered and at one stage had some $3 million in his bank account, which you do not have. However, I am sure that if Mike Tyson had passed his woodwork, which you unfortunately also did not, he would still be a millionaire today. In short, please stop exercising with your mouth and please go to the gym and work on that big tommy of yours. You look 50 years old. S hole.

      PureBlack - 2011-02-01 16:52

      @John Seloa: Chief go to www.ancyl.org you'll read original statement that has been issued by ANCYL. News24 has distorted their press release statement by brushing ANCYL with stupid paint of ignorance. Chief you are black then what? Who cares about your colour anyway? Do you need to mentioned your colour to state emphasize your point? Please!

      Ponkie - 2011-02-01 17:44

      I'm sure it is a printing error, the ANC does not onw a night club, they are owned by a circus consisting only of clowns.

      helizna - 2011-02-01 18:09

      @PureBlack the site is not even up yet...

      SimonP - 2011-02-01 18:22

      @Pure Black, you are typical ANC, believe everything they tell you without question. The site you refer to is under construction. Seriously it would have taken 30 seconds to verify what the YL told you but no you blindly swallowed their kak. No wonder the ANC are still in power when chops like you are suckered time and time again.

      WoodenSpoon - 2011-02-01 19:06

      @John Seloa - Mike Tyson had $300 million in his account at one time. Get your facts right.

      SimonP - 2011-02-01 19:35

      @John Seloa, dont be so sure how much money fatboy has, given all his tenderprenuership R21m is not unthinkable.

      PikeLee - 2011-02-02 06:45

      @PureBlack. Haha. What a jackass you are. The site is not even.

      NickDemus - 2011-02-02 08:49

      Pureblack, before you have a go at John Seloa, I suggest you look at your log in Chief.

      John Seloa - 2011-02-02 09:40

      Correction accepted, Mike Tyson was $300 million rich. As for JuliAss, he definitely must stop exercising with his mouth. People of his age are out in the gym toning their bodies. I do not care what the ANCYL site says. All I know is that JuliAss is a thick skulled individual who needs to grow up. I blame the media for giving an s hole of JuliAss calibre so much attention. In fact, it does make sense that he associates himself with the likes of Kunene so he can have a glimpse of a naked woman. No bright woman of his age would date a fat ass that does not even know how to open a gym door. Did I offend him?

      Andre - 2011-02-02 09:52

      @WoodenSpoon. Please, John Seloa was making a valid point the amount whether 3, 30 or 300 million is not at the crux of what he is saying. This is not a trivia quiz but commentary on corrupt politicians.

      JuluisMalema - 2011-02-02 13:27

      Tudo o que você Bleck cabeças pau são do caralho morte cerebral. Todos os negros são filhos de suas irmãs, e os amantes de suas mães, e estão casados com seus pais .. E Julius Malema é um porkchop real que suga a torneira, e não é um sujeito muito educado.

      BLACKsoWHAT! - 2011-02-02 14:13

      @ John Seloa Is it necessary to announce you're black before you say something?

      Beverley - 2011-02-02 16:34

      @ juluismalema - so you speak spanish.....

      4daluvofSA - 2011-02-02 16:47

      very funny how this has turned out. The whites are defending John because he is bashing Julius and the blacks are doing the opposite! I am sure if it was the other way round we would be singing a different tune.. hahaha...I love SA!

      AJ - 2011-02-03 07:34

      @BLACKsoWHAT! - I'm white and I agree...

  • Lestor - 2011-02-01 09:57

    "reactionary DA government" I love how they call the DA reactionary. I don't see anything wrong with seeing a problem and reacting to fix it. Its a better solution than not trying to fix a problem.

      AJ - 2011-02-01 10:38

      Yeah when you are leading from the front it can hardly be called REactionary.

      birdman - 2011-02-01 10:39

      Like all revolutionary governments with a 20 year sell-by date, the ANC are now going to say anything and use any rhetoric to combat the DA threat. And they are the threat. In 10 years they will be in power!

      Mike - 2011-02-01 13:56

      Lestor the DA are reactionary to the point where they propose little in the way of innovation. Thats their major downfall. Rather than propose tangible solutions to the countries problems on a pro-active basis they tend to nip at the heels of the ANC like a lap dog. Unfortunaetly for them to be a credible opposition party they need to take the kid gloves off.

      exocist - 2011-02-01 16:12

      Mike are you braindead? i'm sure the DA did propose tangible solutions to the ANC until they were blue in the face, what do you expect them to do cut open the ANC's head with a tinopener and shout solutions inside,i'm sorry my freind there are none so deaf as those who will not hear

      AJ - 2011-02-02 07:15

      @Mike teh DA are leading by example. If the others dont pay attention, that is hardly their fault. All i hear from teh DA is tangoble solutions. The ANC however will not tolerate any success or solution from outside their ranks, as it belittles them.

  • mengelbrecht1 - 2011-02-01 09:57

    What a joke!! The ANC has done nothing for the people except rip them off with relentless corruption. The ANC will be getting a big wake up call soon.

      pointblankza - 2011-02-01 12:07

      @matla, you right now it's going to racist revolutionary elite...

  • brianR - 2011-02-01 09:59

    Oh the Spindoctors have to work overtime again...

  • Kyle_logan - 2011-02-01 10:00

    so much for helping out the poor, or does julius not accosiate with them anymore.... only the best is good enough for julius....

      Shistirrer - 2011-02-01 10:22

      Proposed new motto for the ANCYL: "F*ck the poor".

      Warren - 2011-02-01 15:39

      So, we know that Julie's-Ass (pun intended) lives in Santon, drives a Range Rover, sips Moet champagne, gets drunk on Johnny Walker, is an American agent & he likes to get laid by the poor. But now we also know that he schmaaks to eat his dinner raw... off kaalgat white chicks! I wonder if the poor ever even imagined something like this was even possible to buy???

  • flyingsaucer - 2011-02-01 10:01

    Juli-Ass!! You're by far the dumbest form of Human-kind. Even if you'd remove your voice box, everybody could still see the selfish, in stupidity covered dictator like piece of roach dung you are. Can somebody please "dume" this bloody agent??

      PAR - 2011-02-01 10:15

      I think the name you have given him is very appropriate. Juli - cause he acts like a girl and squeels for more security when he opens that gaping hole of his. Ass - cause he obviously kisses ass to get away with what he does.

      rethan - 2011-02-01 10:49

      Human kind? think again :P

  • MP3 - 2011-02-01 10:02

    If i were the ANC, i'd be worried about the ANCYL hijacking the party...

      Shistirrer - 2011-02-01 10:26

      In my opinion, when nKwenkwe Julius was told the ANC is a political party, he misunderstood the "party" bit.

  • mdu - 2011-02-01 10:04

    Malema must be very careful about his sentiments and if he doesnt focus on the mandate of young people in terms of employment and the programmes that relate to the future growth of young people,then he must learn from what is happening in Egypt and we will overthrow him,i mean the establisment of the youth league was not formed on making friends who dont have the interest of people at heart,is was formed of the basis of making sure that young people have the chance to partake in the economy of this country and many blood was shed and many lives lost for the betterment of its existence and if this course was to make other poeple rich on the expence of late comrades then this is purely and insult to our cadres and saying that the ANC owns nightclubs,that boy is surely undermining our movement and we are watching,surely we are and if babarik behaviour is not stoping,

      PB - 2011-02-01 10:20

      Mdu, I sincerely hope you are the voice of the people - at this stage it seems that the younger generation can not see what is really happening right in front of their eyes.

      Magomataqiub - 2011-02-01 12:11

      This happens when you did not partake in the struggle.He was told the stories of revolution again apartheid but will never understand what it meant to be on the run from the "dienes".

      LBS - 2011-02-01 13:40

      My hopes are on guys like YOU Mdu. If there are enough of your kind and we can all stand together, black and white, then we stand a chance

      maseratifitt - 2011-02-01 14:03

      mdu : Whilst I fully agree with your sentiments, I think many of us are brainwashed into thinking that the ANCYL has some purpose other than maintaining ANC "power". Chancellor House is another example.

      supporter - 2011-02-01 15:54

      WELL SAID. YOU SHOULD BE THE ANCYL LEADER. AFTER ALL IT'S WHAT EVERY COUNTRY SHOULD PROTECT AND EDUCATE, THE YOUTH. MALEMA ONLY CARES ABOUT HIMSELF. HE IS A DISGRACE TO ANY YOUTH MOVEMENT

  • karendb - 2011-02-01 10:04

    This idiot is so insecure, he tries to stick to the white man at every turn and does his damndest to try and get a reaction out of them. Thank goodness Helen Zille has said that she is not interested in this kind of thing, she has real work to do. Idiot Melema must be very disappointed. It iwll only make him try something else to get the attention he keeps craving and then crying racism and "bloody imperialists" when he eventually gets it. He is really just a small minded idiot with a huge chip on his shoulder and a bit of power which has gone straight to his head and all he knows to do with it is abuse it. Its the African way, don't you know.....

      S.Soga - 2011-02-01 10:40

      Karendb...."its the african way, don't you know"...i'm a little offended there....please can you elaborate on that.

      S.Soga - 2011-02-01 10:41

      Karendb...."its the african way, don't you know"...i'm a little offended there....please can you elaborate on that.

      Corrie - 2011-02-01 12:01

      @S.Soga Don't worry you will get over it...

      Bobinator - 2011-02-01 14:16

      SSoga is right. that last comment of Karen is racist undermines any valid argument she may have had. It offends me too.

      AJ - 2011-02-02 07:18

      Although I agree with S.Soga being offended there is more than a grain of truth to this Malema attitude being engrained in far too many of Africa's 'leaders' to the extreme detriment of the populations. It is worth noting that Romania and other countries have had similar experiences. Africa does however have far too many such 'leaders', far too powerfule and lasting for far too long. Generally propped up by the scared, naive and uneducated too, which is sad.

  • Willow2 - 2011-02-01 10:04

    See how they - ANC - - operates: ANC councillors in Gauteng and KwaZulu-Natal have been slammed by the party after being accused of buying votes with chicken and alcohol.

      exocist - 2011-02-01 16:25

      CAN SOMEBODY PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT THE HELL "SLAMMED BY" MEANS,IS IT SOME TYPE OF PUNISHMENT? do they slam your head against the wall or what? I remember juliarse being slammed by this one and that one but still does what he wants,maybe his brains have been scrambled from all the "slamming"

      Beverley - 2011-02-03 06:33

      @exosist - that is all the anc does - they "slam" and move on - they don't take action

  • April - 2011-02-01 10:04

    Can't believe a word he says. He is petty and all he wants is war! Tired of the ANC using him as a diversion when they are up to other tricks. It is old already!

  • Bismark22 - 2011-02-01 10:05

    Malema is a money hunter and a racist! Shame on you! I mean who else than Malema would declare war against a chicken company (Nandos's)?

      Milo - 2011-02-01 10:39

      Don't forget him closing down Twitter!!

  • Bosduif - 2011-02-01 10:07

    My guess is Jub Jub's pusher will be the contact at this club for some narcotics.

  • Ammie - 2011-02-01 10:08

    Ag shame, the bloody idiôt can't even say what he means properly...

      Breeze - 2011-02-01 11:30

      ...mmmmm...always spindoctering required whenever he opens his mouth...Always "taken out of context" or "what he meant to say was" or "incorrectly quoted by the capatalistic or imperialistic press" Have yet to see the contrary - what an embarresment for him, the YL and ANC!

  • James - 2011-02-01 10:09

    What a bunch! The left hand has no clue what the right hand is doing. Every time one of these fools speaks someone has to rush in and make the "misquoted" claims. Damage control at its best. These guys trying to play politics is about as successful as trying to refloat the Titanic. Real foot in mouth tap dancers!! Gotta love 'em -

  • jacquesroux.13 - 2011-02-01 10:09

    When will the ANCYL and the ANC learn to speak out of one mouth? The one keep on contradicting the other! No wonder our country is so messed up!!

      cmr.insurance - 2011-02-01 10:47

      To many bosses and no workers, nobody wants to lose out on a party for free drink and food, with golden hand shakes for failiar, the leaders are all but gone and the clowns have taken over.

  • kolobe - 2011-02-01 10:09

    ANCYL doesnt need to be explaining their social lives to anybody,especially those not affiliated to it.if you get botox you dont need to declare it to anybody

      suspiciousme - 2011-02-01 10:14

      That is not what this story is about, Kolobe. Read it again, slowly this time, keep the dictionary handy for those big words, ok? Nobody asked the little prick brigade to explain anything. They bravely took it upon themselves...

      Gazza Boy - 2011-02-01 10:20

      Maybe they should explain their social lives to you. You are obviously to stupid to understand whats going on.

      April - 2011-02-01 10:21

      I feel sorry for you Kolobe. All the ANCYL top nobs only care about themselves and will stand on you if you get in their way. You are a mere sheep!

      Sho Fukamachi - 2011-02-01 10:23

      kolobe is an ANC clown. don't give him the time of day. he's just as useless and worthless as the ANC and Malema

      Jack - 2011-02-01 10:30

      Jullias is on Botox? Here's me thinking he just eats too much!? Silly me.

      purplepumpernickle - 2011-02-01 10:32

      Kolobe, are you a moron? I have to ask because only a complete moron Would open his/her mouth and utter such crap like you have Done!

      PB - 2011-02-01 10:33

      You are so funny!!!!!!!!! The general message Kolobe, is that your hero Juliaaas usually let the Chivas take control of his brain and then everybody has to do damage control when he and the ANC realise the next day that he has made (another) idiotic statement. You might not know the saying "the lady doth protest too much..." but that is applicable here.

      GrimReaper10 - 2011-02-01 10:47

      "ANCYL doesnt need to be explaining their social lives to anybody" Sure, its not like they represent anyone. They only have to climb the highest tower and scream "I want my sushi" "Dont touch me on my sushi"

      Other Justin - 2011-02-01 12:36

      Hahahahahaha, kolobe, you are most probably a Mugabe fan too. I am surprised you have the intelligence to operate a computer because you certainly don't have the intelligence to make informed comments. You, Julius and Mugabe should get together, take a pill and disolve, please, do Africa and it's people a favour. VIVA AMAUSELESS VIVA!!!!

      Jo - 2011-02-01 13:14

      If you've paid for botox yourself, you can have it every day - especially if your administration delivers to ALL the people and gets through unqualified audits with flying colours. But when your constituents are staging service delivery protests on every day of the week somewhere in the country, a little less sushi and a bit more accountability is required. And PS. who in the world is stopping black nightclub owners from opening nightclubs anywhere in SA? What world is Mr Malema actually living in?

      Kolobes_MAMA - 2011-02-01 13:55

      hhaayi wena kolobe did i not tell u to think before u speak. u are a very unfortunate person. oh and everything is apartheids fault.

      Ares - 2011-02-01 15:15

      You don't have to explain your so called "social lives".... you guys ALWAYS show up UNINVITED...

      PikeLee - 2011-02-02 06:50

      Then why are they explaining there social lives in the media? You jackass

      kolobe - 2011-02-02 07:58

      Kolobes_MAMA lol..yah neh!what qualifies you to be my mom

      Broch - 2011-02-02 13:19

      kolobe, you troglodyte, the ANC and cronies in government are accountable to ALL South Africans!

      African'shtr - 2011-02-02 14:10

      Kolobe ungumnqundwana osakhulayo wena, why do you support corrupt leaders who claim to be freedom fighters, I know no one who was part of the struggle, "umnqundu wenja hamba yokwaluka ufane ne former presedent of the youth league" ( go and circumsise so that you can get brain's you ass hole)

  • Thandi - 2011-02-01 10:11

    I don't think Fatboy Malema will frequent the nightclub unless it serves KFC, and how 'upmarket' is that? Fatboy is about as upmarket as a puked up hairball.

      GrimReaper10 - 2011-02-01 10:41

      Im sure there is a KFC in the area for him to quickly pop into. There's nothing like eating a drumstick of a scantly clad "he's a woman"......

      Corrie - 2011-02-01 12:07

      @matla Nope he/she is none of those you mentioned...but there is a brain unlike you baboon...

      Other Justin - 2011-02-01 12:57

      lol!!!!!!! Good one!

      Other Justin - 2011-02-01 12:59

      @matla - Hey wena, because she is using her God given brain, you call her a Cracker? You're the Cracker you fool!

      Fran - 2011-02-01 19:09

      and the award for quote of the day goes to...... ".....about as upmarket as a puked up hairball" Thandi. Made my day Thandi- thanks

  • slimkoos - 2011-02-01 10:12

    A show of "Black Power", then a white girl is used as a sushi platter....see the photo, it speaks for itself !!! Bassteds.... http://www.timeslive.co.za/Politics/article884580.ece/Not-in-our-name-ANC-tells-party-animal-Malema

      dvdb27 - 2011-02-01 11:58

      Same as the last Ms. South Africa contest. All night long throughout the 2hour + show the female contestants were paraded and escorted up and down on the stage by black males and black males only. Where's the racial equality in that? Charity starts at home. If you're going to promote such actions and support racist organizations like Mnet, then you must deal with the results, i.e., single white women being raped in the security of their homes by black men...

      arthsterorama - 2011-02-01 13:40

      now that is interesting he hates us imperialist but he doesn't mind eating of our woman. she must have been the BEE waitress :D

      Jack - 2011-02-01 14:06

      Seems like the African girs are just not good enough for the new "Black Diamonds" Funny how they carry on with their African rhetoric but everything they crave and like are Western, Audi, DimpleHaig, Chevas, Jhonny Blue, BMW,H3, Cartier, Rolex, Gucci... the list goes on and on!

  • Bosduif - 2011-02-01 10:14

    So if there is a raid it will referred to some sort of "white" plan to deny the black man or Zille will be blamed and will be called some childish name.

  • mdu - 2011-02-01 10:14

    I dont get this and im afraid that the Titanic will sink soon,im the member and a dedicated cadre of the movement and i have dedicated a portion of my life in respecting the call of the movement and appreciating the role that it has made for the liberation of our prople,and we have to ensure that we continue making our country a better place for every individual that is called rainbow nation,but sometimes the behaviour of those people that we trust in public really insult the commitement and believe that we have always stands to defend no matter the course,Julius must be called to order and id the movement doesnt leave according to its principle,then surely struggle and the commitment of our cadres was invain and thanx to Malema

      Great White - 2011-02-01 10:48

      Mdu, your ideology aside, you appear to have a good head on your shoulders. We need a lot more people like you, who are able to think outside the box, to bring the ANC to heel. The whites can't do it with their limited votes, but together we can make the difference.

      Patience - 2011-02-01 11:14

      The Black youth deserves intelligent leadership – the leadership that gets paid with your and my tax money. I refuse to believe that there aren’t ANY highly intelligent Black youth leaders to lead the YL. The leadership style he imposes on everyone in SA is outdated. When Mandela was the ANCYL president it was necessary to be daring, militant and provocative. The struggle for freedom is over. The Black youth of this country deserves leadership that’s fresh, intelligent and willing to come up with and work on solutions for this country’s joblessness, crime and poverty. He should be removed from this position because he was created by the ANC as a puppet and mouthpiece for propaganda purposes and to divert attention when needed. How many times now has he claimed in speech after speech that nationalisation of mines is on the ANC’s agenda even when nationalisation has nothing to do with the topic of his speech? And how many times has the ANC leadership refuted these claims publicly? I know of one time Zuma publicly said the ANC is not about to nationalise mines. The ANC is nursing him in this position because an intelligent, educated Black person might not be willing to go along as a mouthpiece. After being in the wilderness and being oppressed for 46 years Black people in general and the Black Youth in particular deserve better.

      U1 - 2011-02-01 11:55

      mdu, the politician in power is the reflection of the people who voted him into that position. I am not a member of any political movement as in general my values don't match those of politicians. You only belong to a club if you feel at home there. Why are you still a member then? Do you agree with what the leadership does? If not, get rid of them or leave the party. That is what democracy is all about.

      brian.dlamini - 2011-02-01 13:00

      i fully agree with you Mdu, Julius needs to be called to order. @ U1 the comments above are the reason why we will always vote ANC, people here are consistently undermining black people, some referring to us as baboons which really isn't nice. how would you expect us to vote in a white government when this is how whites really feel about us..no 1 who commented here would express themselves like they have in public which is what scares us!! rather the devil we know

      Other Justin - 2011-02-01 13:07

      mdu, unforunately you ANC is no longer the movement it once was. If there was any good in it in the past, that is gone now, the ANC is not a gravy train that is out of control. Your movement is now racist, immoral and corrupt. It is destroying this country, not just the white people of South Africa, but the entire population. The poor in this country are being made poorer by the very same people they vote for over and over. If people like you don't start changing your politics and voting for an end to this rot, we are all doomed. I just hope that you and the many like minded, make a change for the better of this country.

      Other Justin - 2011-02-01 13:09

      mdu, unforunately you ANC is no longer the movement it once was. If there was any good in it in the past, that is gone now, the ANC is not a gravy train that is out of control. Your movement is now racist, immoral and corrupt. It is destroying this country, not just the white people of South Africa, but the entire population. The poor in this country are being made poorer by the very same people they vote for over and over. If people like you don't start changing your politics and voting for an end to this rot, we are all doomed. I just hope that you and the many like minded, make a change for the better of this country.

      Jo - 2011-02-01 13:19

      hi mdu, it isn't really Mr Malema's fault at all - it's completely the fault of whoever is leading the ANC. Not one of the people in senior leadership has had the will, courage or support to deal with the ANCYL - and that's what has made many of us decide not to vote for them anymore. If they cannot handle trouble within their own ranks, then we have to wonder if they have the will, courage and wisdom to deal with the international issues and all the urgent needs of the South African people.

      PB - 2011-02-01 13:40

      @brian.dlamini - I hear you - but dude, you don't have to vote for a 'white' party. As long as you vote FOR the ANC, they will feel themselves above the law. As for negative comments such as the baboon thing - unfortunately there are a hell of a lot of idiots like Malema who act like baboons and bringing down negative public opinion. Well thought out comments such as Mdu and Patience's are the type of opinions that shows openmindedness and intelligence. Just toeing the party line because you are scared to try out something new is not going to change anything for the better. Options - either find another party (any party) with values closer to your own, or abstain from giving your vote to the corrupt black egomaniacs that are not remotely interested in looking after your best interests.

      AJ - 2011-02-01 14:22

      @brian.dlamini So you would screw yourselves over again, just because you dont like how an assumed white guy who you dont even know refers to you in an anonymous forum? Mature man, real mature - well that answers that question then.

      Maddy-CT - 2011-02-01 16:17

      @ Patience - all the highly intelligent black youth are members of the DA Youth League! :) @ brian.dlamini - I find the blatant racism on these forums disgusting, expressed by cowards hiding behind their anonymity. I can understand, but not condone, the racist attitudes of people, of all races, who were affected by our apartheid past. However it is unforgivable to pass these attitudes on to our children and thus perpetuate the damage done by apartheid. At my daughter's school I see children of different races socialising together and dating each other, which is the way it should be, and that gives me hope for the future.

      moiraine - 2011-02-01 18:13

      Prior to 1994 all of the parties had done terrible things, NP, ANC,IFP etc etc just from different sides of the law. Whether justified or not people were harmed on both sides. However in 1994 we started with a clean slate and each party could mould themselves in the way that they want to. For a while, and certainly while Mandela was in charge, the ANC seemed to be a conscientous and upstanding party who had everyones welfare at heart. However at the moment it seems like they say what they like and do what they like and whilst sometimes members are reprimanded there doesnt seem to be any long term consequences of lawnessness. I am not saying that the other parties are any better, but the ANC is the ruling party and is in the media continuously and should be setting a better example for its people. If the ANC doesnt manage to break itself out of the old apartheid mindset (ie. everything is the white persons fault and if anyone critisizes us it is racism) then this country is not going anywhere except downhill. At the end of the day you cant blame the past and expect things to improve without doing anything, it is up to us now to change it.

      moiraine - 2011-02-01 18:17

      @brian.dlamini the racist comments on this site sicken me too. However please look at them closely. You say you could only vote for the ANC because of the racist comments on this site, because now you know what white people think of you. Please look at them and see that there are racist comments from blacks as well as whites. Maybe the whites are saying that they cant vote for the ANC because now they know what blacks think of them. A lot of people come on here and make comments just to stir people up and sometimes you have to ignore the stupid idiots and focus on those that are making a valid point. At the end of the day why are we all fighting each other when we should be fighting against all the problems in the country.

      Andre - 2011-02-02 10:27

      @Brian Dlamini. I fully understand the sentiment of your statement, however you are making some serious errors in judgement. Firstly the large majority of white people are not racists, secondly nobody wants a white party in power but everybody wants an effective party. The fact that you see the white man as the bogeyman who you must always vote against will mostly be to the detriment of the black people and I am not saying you need whites to run a proper government I say you need talented people of all races but the white / black issue becomes so important that people loses focus of what really is important so you will rather vote in an idiot like Malema and ruin the country in the long run than voting in an intelligent leader who will take us forward. I can also just mention if whites were so terrible to live under why do so many black Africans risk their lives to go to predominantly white counties like Europe and Australia in search of a better life, why are they not scared to live under white rule? I guess this is the story of Africa ehile former colonies in the east are becoming economic power houses Africans elect Mugabes, Malemas, Gbagbos and Zumas as signs of empowerment, Wanna see real empowerment look east and you will see there are no idiotic trade union leaders messing up Chinas economy.

  • Mike or Mpho - 2011-02-01 10:16

    thanks ANCYL woody juju for making me laugh again, always a pleasure

  • kevventer - 2011-02-01 10:17

    This just confirms the mentality.... Why is every little thing that the DA does translated into a way to STOP ANC people from doing stuff. The by-law is not to prevent clubs from being opened, its to deter people from consuming too much alcohol. A stricter version is what we need across the country but that is another conversation. I would argue that if a club stop serving alcohol at 2am instead of 4am, people will just drink faster to get to the same point of inebriation. That is beside the point tho.... Think they are better off passing a by-law as to the level of IQ you have to have before being allowed to open your mouth in public.

      GrimReaper10 - 2011-02-01 10:32

      No. DA especially passed the by-law to oppress Julius White Tendencies Fighter Malena. If it wasn't for them then JM would have been able to have fully naked woman with his sushi. After all sushi and champagne is very African.

  • foxx69 - 2011-02-01 10:17

    Floyd you and your buddy Juli-ass are showing stupid you really are, everyday ypu guys open your mothes. Nothing of sunstance comes out even the ANC is distancing itself from Juli-ass's stement. Would you not think that more important are, youth issues

  • Ken J May - 2011-02-01 10:18

    Sushi served on half naked women? something fishy about this story!

  • motilallc - 2011-02-01 10:18

    Julius has a permanent and severe case of "Foot IN THE Mouth" disease. Ag, someone duck-tape him already!

  • Mike or Mpho - 2011-02-01 10:19

    I love how they perceives the areas as "predominantly white territory". It's called ownership and working hard for what one has, a concept that has obviously been lost in the woodworks of the ANCYL.

      Ozymandios - 2011-02-01 12:02

      What I am failing to undertsand is: what is so amazing about opening up a nite club? Its a buisness FFS. To carry on like this, borders on the equivalent of an eight year old child getting so excited about getting a brand new bicycle for his/her birthday. But then again we are dealing with the brain development of 8 year olds in adult bodies. Frightening but true. But then again too I know quite a few 8 year olds with smarter heads on their shoulders than this lot.

  • Spoofed - 2011-02-01 10:21

    Oh wow another club filled with drugs Whoop dee doo. Wonder if he knows who actually owns that club? The security/bodyguard companies love new clubs. they go there threatening to make trouble if the club owner does not employ thier bodyguards. then before you know it their is a steady supply of drugs. wonder if malema is in on those profits too....

  • Sho Fukamachi - 2011-02-01 10:21

    Once again this bigoted buffoon is making it a black/white issue. Why does he get media coverage?

  • John Clark - 2011-02-01 10:22

    Kenny Kunene might do well to bear in mind how his apparent predecessor, Sandi Majali, that hero of the ANC purse, left the stage...Just saying...

  • cpdennis1 - 2011-02-01 10:23

    Malema, you are an oxygen thief.

  • GrimReaper10 - 2011-02-01 10:23

    Same story just another day: “They” were able to open a nightclub (one nightclub) after 16 years of “struggle”. Great success! Only accessible to a few, with loads money spend on liquor and half nude models. Great success! And they don’t have to follow the rules of the government. Great success! Seems like any other BEE deal in SA. I’m of course generalizing a bit...but only a bit.

  • jakkals616 - 2011-02-01 10:23

    Julius se ma se pasta

  • whitespear@24.com - 2011-02-01 10:29

    Revolutionary movement? More like a bowel movement.

  • Weezychest - 2011-02-01 10:29

    If he's Malema's big bumbandit, then we must just boycott his nightclub thingy. No One visits and the doors eventually close. We can show the how to depower them just as quickly.

  • Jelena - 2011-02-01 10:30

    Fishface malema is down in brain capacity like always.The anc loves a brain like that.

  • Currie_Mafia - 2011-02-01 10:31

    If Julius ran for President..WTF...Surely this is some sort of joke...Julius..Aikona...NEVER...Woodwork Julius..Haibo..Juju, President !!!??? Please c'mon, be serious...

      C_Max - 2011-02-01 17:14

      Yeah! - thats what we said about Zuma.

  • mdu - 2011-02-01 10:33

    @PB,Chief i wont call myself the voice of the people and is just that the movement will be celebrating its 100 year of its establishment next year and it was formed on the basis of the will of people and that is the course that Mandela was willing to die for,and today we have the University Degrees and thanx to the Movement and we need to protect the movement at all cost for those who still coming after us,and that is the reason we wont keep our mouth shut if certain people wont leave according to the right principles and who are the to enrich themselves

      Johann - 2011-02-01 11:35

      Are you saying that the movement no longer has the right vision?

      PB - 2011-02-01 14:13

      Mdu, the will of the people are shown by way of votes. I fully understand that you stand by the values of the ANC as it was - unfortunately the newbies are trashing that. Until such time as you and those who are able to think for themselves refrain from just voting the (NEW) ANC back into power without any accountability to the very people who voted for them, they will just carry on breaking down the ANC of Mandela and his compatriots. As you must have picked up from the discussions here, there are more people who would love to stand together on this than otherwise. It is not just a us and them (white and black)thing, it is about right and wrong.

  • Baas-Julius - 2011-02-01 10:33

    I really don't understand this, yesterday there's an article http://www.fin24.com/Economy/Most-of-SA-youth-jobless-SAIRR-20110131 and now he harbors on about 1 person that opened a club, who the hell cares. 57% of the black youth are still jobless. It just goes to show Malema you have no inclination in helping the youth, your just sponging off them.

  • purplepumpernickle - 2011-02-01 10:37

    Funny that is Club is called ZAR, the abbreviation for Zuid-Afrikaansche Republiek... these People,if not any thing Else, can provide some chukkles!

  • pop101 - 2011-02-01 10:37

    Man, you can open your club, bottle store, strip club, or whatever, where ever you want. As long as you abide by he laws and regulations of the area in which you want to do it.

  • Nico - 2011-02-01 10:38

    I'm afraid they haven't really "been empowered". Individuals that have been empowered are able to make a valuable contribution to society. Anyone can open a nightclub, its like opening a shebeen in a township.

      Beverley - 2011-02-03 06:49

      @Nico - I agree with you there 100% - opening a "night club" is not empowerment! em·power·ment Usage Note: Although it is a contemporary buzzword, the word empower is not new, having arisen in the mid-17th century with the legalistic meaning "to invest with authority, authorize." Shortly thereafter it began to be used with an infinitive in a more general way meaning "to enable or permit." Both of these uses survive today but have been overpowered by the word's use in politics and pop psychology. Its modern use originated in the civil rights movement, which sought political empowerment for its followers. The word was then taken up by the women's movement, and its appeal has not flagged. Since people of all political persuasions have a need for a word that makes their constituents feel that they are or are about to become more in control of their destinies, empower has been adopted by conservatives as well as social reformers. It has even migrated out of the political arena into other fields. · The Usage Panel has some misgivings about this recent broadening of usage. For the Panelists, the acceptability of the verb empower depends on the context. Eighty percent approve of the example We want to empower ordinary citizens. But in contexts that are not political the Panel is markedly less enthusiastic. The sentence Hunger and greed and then sexual zeal are felt by some to be stages of experience that empower the individual garners approval from only 33 percent of the Panelists. The Panel may frown on this kind of psychological empowering because it resonates of the self-help movement, which is notorious for trendy coinages.

  • kaz - 2011-02-01 10:41

    Funny how the model who they were eating sushi off of is white!!!

      Ozymandios - 2011-02-01 12:06

      It all comes down to what tastes good!

      pointblankza - 2011-02-01 12:34

      AND LOOKS GOOD ;)

  • cmr.insurance - 2011-02-01 10:41

    So you are now encouraging the youth to party and drink as the way of the ANC. I dont give a shit as 99% of those who vote for you wont get in or will be able to pay for drinks, only those elite few, they call our leaders as it can be charge as expeces for entertainment. (Our Taxis)

      pointblankza - 2011-02-01 12:35

      Maybe they should open their doors to the communities? Free entrance, sushi and champagne on the house... you know give back to the communities. Maybe?

  • C_S - 2011-02-01 10:43

    How long is the ANC going to defend this idiotic remarks made by JM? This verbal diahrea, with an IQ less than his age, is causing the young black people in this country to get worked up, and turn to violence. A youth leader is supposed to encourage the youth to contribute to society, and not devide this country more. The ANC cannot let this australopithecus carry on as he wishes.

      mdu - 2011-02-01 10:53

      The call for the ANC was that it will invest to the future leaders of this country and that the youth must be the once who will champion the problems that are facing them and the Youth league must be in the forfront to give the youth a platform of engagement on where to from now and base on our current leader,its questionble if are we still in par with that manadate,and when is the next AGM i think it will solve most of the problem if the youth can outvote Malema

      egontania - 2011-02-01 12:19

      Yes Mdu, get rid of him. And when he and his divisive nonsense is gone you'll probably realise that it is not only the darkies, but also the whities that want to make SA a 'better place for ALL'. And that the 'counter-revolutionary bloody agents of imperialism' label attached to whities by the ANC, it's(?) Yoof League, Cosatu and SACP serves to prevent you from thinking out the box!

  • Kai Von Pannier - 2011-02-01 10:44

    Woohooo...great empowerment owning a strip club and exploiting women! You go !!! Doos !

  • JustinD - 2011-02-01 10:45

    OMG Julius remains the biggest dickhead this country has EVER produced. What a toss.

  • Dr. Zeek - 2011-02-01 10:50

    This is what the Freedom Charter was all about - allowing people like JM and KK to behave decadently with abandon. Look at Tunisia and Egypt, ANC and ANCYL, your time will come, too.

  • Mpho - 2011-02-01 10:51

    where is this country heading, with people like Malema, I think I should follow whites when they leave for Australia.I dont see any brighter future.I hate being Black.

      ands - 2011-02-01 11:28

      We are not leaving Mpho....Dont hate being black, use you and your friends and families next vote. We can all make real change happen.

      Johann - 2011-02-01 11:37

      Geez Mpho. Heavy heart there. We got some dumb whites too, don't worry. Old ET, and his crony Viljoen. Sad when our own people make the rest of us look so backwards

      egontania - 2011-02-01 11:49

      Mpho, with more like you around, no one will want to go anywhere! Who cares about your colour, you have a brain!

      C_S - 2011-02-01 12:29

      Does the media just give Malema too much credit & "airtime"? Maybe it is a good thing, this can cause the ANC to splinter, and bring balance into politics? More smaller parties, and not one huge majority. Life is about balance.

      Other Justin - 2011-02-01 13:28

      No dude, don't say that. Don't hate who you are, just change the circumstances that surround you. People like you and I need to stay in this country and make a difference and vote for change. Don't stress.

  • Smaal - 2011-02-01 10:53

    I don’t see the problem. If the people don’t like him or what he does or what he say they should simply not support his club. If he wants a black only club in a white area, well fine, nobody is stopping him. If he has no brain well then I’m afraid no one can help him. Then again with all this money floating around it begs the question: If they feel so much for the people why invest in a club when that money can be invested in toilets for the people who vote for them?