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ANCYL abandons march

2011-09-08 16:00

Johannesburg - The ANC Youth League has abandoned plans to march to strategic centres of economic power during its 65th birthday celebrations.

"Our focus is on our political programme and birthday celebrations," spokesperson Magdalene Moonsamy said on Thursday.

"It’s not about dropping plans, but we have to look at what our priority is at the moment."

The league began its birthday celebrations on Thursday with a memorial lecture at the University of Pretoria. On Saturday, it would have a rally and cake-cutting ceremony in Alexandra, Johannesburg.

Last month, the league called on all provinces to march to strategic centres of the economy as part of its "economic freedom in our lifetime" campaign. These centres included the Johannesburg Stock Exchange, Chamber of Mines, Agri SA and the Union Buildings.

"The ANCYL will mobilise all young people, unemployed youth, informal settlement dwellers to fight against economic oppression in all its formats and character," spokesperson Floyd Shivambu said recently.

The National Development Agency, which grants funds to civil society organisations, denied reports on Thursday it would be leading the march on behalf of the youth league.

Comments
  • farmworker - 2011-09-08 16:04

    Comrades let us remain united during this economic struggle, We and the mother body remain one strong force

      poenskop - 2011-09-08 16:07

      mwahahahahahahahahaha, I guess the naughty bafana's got put in their place. Go study Umfaan

      scott - 2011-09-08 16:07

      lol, the crumble has alreadt begun, let me lift the wool for you.

      poenskop - 2011-09-08 16:11

      I guess the ANCYL also got raped by Zuma. :)

      HiJack - 2011-09-08 16:18

      Gaan melk die koeie Sipho. Wat soek jy weer op my computer?

      roboman1 - 2011-09-08 16:25

      lol, yes and lets disrupt all the honest hardworking taxpayers, let's create anarchy so that the last of the productive, hardworking, law abiding members of our society emmigrate and go and contribute somewhere where the political leadership welcomes honesty and hardwork!

      Shadoz - 2011-09-08 16:36

      this is gonna save S.A a few million in damage. ANCYL CROOKS AND VANDALS the bunch of them kiddies.

      tryanything - 2011-09-08 16:48

      @ farmworker... Gaan KAK in die mielies...

      kleindeef - 2011-09-08 17:50

      Plaaswerker. You effed up the busses last time around. Nou die transpot hy is nis is.

      The Observer - 2011-09-08 19:10

      rubber bullets hurt do they?

      Gazza69 - 2011-09-09 09:58

      Why did they cancel? Did Chicken Licken cancel the sponsorship???

  • scott - 2011-09-08 16:07

    "The ANCYL will mobilise all young people, unemployed youth, informal settlement dwellers to fight against economic oppression in all its formats and character," spokesperson Floyd Shivambu said recently. Should have read, unemployable youth.

      poenskop - 2011-09-08 16:10

      poenskop - September 8, 2011 at 16:07 Report comment mwahahahahahahahahaha, I guess the naughty bafana's got put in their place. Go study Umfaan

      poenskop - 2011-09-08 16:11

      I guess the ANCYL also got raped by Zuma. :)

      thinker - 2011-09-09 14:29

      Lol... Nigies, Zim, Mozies staying in the informal settlements are also welcome for now.

      JohanDuToit - 2011-09-09 19:18

      yip agree what a joke. there is no economic oppression no more. so what do you want to mobilise against? rather unwillingness to take their finger out of their arsess and do something with their lives or try something to make money even if they don't succeed, so rather lets march.

  • Daemos1 - 2011-09-08 16:10

    How much are these celebrations going to cost the taxpayer? just take my whole damn paycheck...sies

      Shadoz - 2011-09-08 16:40

      they almost have in all the forms of taxes they are trying to impose on us.

  • Mart - 2011-09-08 16:12

    The fault for the 'oppression' that these youths are facing can be layed firmly at the feet of their birth mothers and fathers. Who in their right mind brings children into the world without having a plan for their future. And these youth themselves are probably just as prolific procreaters without a clue to the consequences.

      Leoster - 2011-09-08 16:26

      While playign the blame game, please tell us who to blame for our mothers and fathers being subjected to educational restrictions and job reservations and who is to blame for our mothers and fathers being excluded from meaningful economic participation? The ANCYL leadership should just remember that the only people it owes favours to, is its members, the ones who elected them, they should return that favour by being fearless in voicing out the will and wishes of the members.

      Lab-Rat - 2011-09-08 16:51

      Leoster - your parents are still to blame. If they had not over-bred none of us would be in this situation to start with. In fact, I doubt apartheid would have even happened, had your population grown proportionately.

      DW - 2011-09-08 16:56

      Leoster, no matter if you had job reservation for 40 years for blacks, you will still be excluded from meaningful economic participation because 1) your government wont give you a decent education 2)you smash and burn the schools and universities every time you are unhappy with something there 3)you drop out, dont attend classes (too busy going to "defend" Malema), and then demand to be passed when you fail 4)you think your matric certificate (if you ever manage to get one) somehow makes you invincible and now the "white man" MUST employ you. When you realise how this government has raped you and your future, you will cry into your Mageu.

      Leoster - 2011-09-08 17:00

      You do not hold any kind of monopoly to insults and disrespect. But you do hold monopoly to your irrepressible urges to express your insults and disrespect. My parents were robed of opportunities but at least they did not rob me of respect and self-restraint.

      Leoster - 2011-09-08 17:00

      PS: The experiment must have been very successful. "lab-rat"

      Leoster - 2011-09-08 17:19

      DW 1. I matriculated with an average of 75%. not current education system but still under the Democratic government. 2. I am paying back the funds that government provided to take me to varsity. 3. I worked and paid for my final year. 4. I am currently working and paying for my post graduate degree. 5. I don't expect other people to do all these things as I understand the inherent limitations that they face on a daily basis. 6. I believe it is our responsibility to ensure that other young people are given the opportunity to do something with their lives. 7. I believe it is important that ambitious young Africans are given FAIR opportunities to participate in the economy(if you ask about BEE and AA I will ask you how many have benefited) Remember, most Africans are not educated and will not inherit a trust fund or shares from their great granddad. I am an African of low IQ I think, now imagine if Africans of greater IQs were given a fair chance.

      kleindeef - 2011-09-08 17:57

      @leoster. "Remember, most Africans are not educated and will not inherit a trust fund or shares from their great granddad." With this statement you are actually saying that most white Africans are educated (beyond matric), and will inherit a trust fund or shares. Mmmmm. Deluded? Yip!

      The Observer - 2011-09-08 19:12

      leoster. Funny Indians under the same oppression became doctors, lawyers, scientists, engineers, had shops and became wealthy.

      Yislaaik - 2011-09-08 23:40

      Observer, we know the reason for that don't we. The Indians work!

      JohanDuToit - 2011-09-09 19:34

      @Leoster: “1. I matriculated with an average of 75%. not current education system but still under the Democratic government?” -> my comment "that is excellent" “2. I am paying back the funds that government provided to take me to varsity. “ -> my comment "that is good, it took me years to pay back my study debt, but it helps one to accept responsibility for your studies" “3. I worked and paid for my final year. “ -> my comment same as 2 “4. I am currently working and paying for my post graduate degree. “ -> my comment same as 2 “5. I don't expect other people to do all these things as I understand the inherent limitations that they face on a daily basis. “ -> my comment "reality in live is that if they want to take their own lives further and do these things, then they will have to do the things you did. There are no such things as limitations. It is called creating obstacles and excuses for yourself”

      JohanDuToit - 2011-09-09 19:34

      6. I believe it is our responsibility to ensure that other young people are given the opportunity to do something with their lives. -> my comment "no way, reality is that unless you actually work for something yourself, then you will not succeed. People that really actually want something will find the opportunity.” 7. I believe it is important that ambitious young Africans are given FAIR opportunities to participate in the economy(if you ask about BEE and AA I will ask you how many have benefited) -> my comment " People that really actually want something will find the opportunity. There is plenty of FAIR opportunities out there..” Remember, most Africans are not educated and will not inherit a trust fund or shares from their great granddad. -> my comment "neither will most whites, Indians or coloureds inherent a trust fund or shares from their granddad. I started by washing floors in a store and worked myself up to being paying for my studies and becoming and executive today over 15 years”. I am an African of low IQ I think, now imagine if Africans of greater IQs were given a fair chance. -> my comment “ don’t think you will have low IQ, otherwise you won’t be busy with postgraduate studies and you had the brains to workout that you have to work to get somewhere. And any African with a great IQ will find their own chance to achieve what they want too.”

  • Duane - 2011-09-08 16:13

    Always marching and burning things and not reading or learning like the previous generation ANCYL intellectuals did. Education is the only key to economic freedom, handouts and thuggery won't sustain you, you can teach a man to fish...

      Leoster - 2011-09-08 16:31

      Try walking your usual driving distance to school and not having the energy to concentrate at school. Try reading copied text with a candle light after eating pap and tin fish instead of being comfortable in your inhouse library and having all the right study material. I bet you would kill yourself. Not all people are poor because they are lazy. Sometimes circumstances have a great impact on how you will turn out.

      Duane - 2011-09-08 17:04

      well then stop breeding and perpetuating poverty, have one child and concentrate all your efforts on him/her like I have done. I don't understand why the uneducated masses have multiple children if they can't afford them and then want to plunder my tax money when they can't afford to support them. I went without plenty dinners and walked many km to school when I was a kid but instead of begging for handouts from the government it inspired me to better myself, this was inspired in me by my broke mother who had to apply for a goverment subsidy for my schooling, I had to lend text books from kids who were in my grade the previous year because we couldn't afford them. This is the youths entire problem, they expect everything for nothing and instead of working for it which in the process will build character and strength they want to loot and steal - lazy with a sense of entitlement.

      Duane - 2011-09-08 17:12

      and by the way, I now pay R23 800.00pm in tax, go ask papa Julius for some of it. Where do you think all the tax money is going to come from once you have pis3ed us all off and we leave for greener pastures, this country will fall into chaos and you'll come begging from the westerners you kicked out in the first place - this has happened in every single clonized country in Afrcia, this will be no exception, don't kill the goose who lays the golden egg. We gave you a perfectly working system in '94 and you've destroyed it out of spite and now are totally inept to get it going again. You're trying to discredit us as human beings and alienate us from the South African cummunity we hold dear to our hearts - you don't know how close you are to waking the sleeping dragon, remember that not too long ago very many were ruled by very few for very long.

      DW - 2011-09-08 17:21

      Leoster, the white people did not always have cars. Our parents and grandparents also walked to school barefoot, had no money for food etc. But they STILL got an education and got on with their lives. They didnt kill themselves. They realised that hard work would get them and their children out of their poverty. My grandmother told me how she was so sick of pap that she threw a temper tantrum. Her mother told her not to cry as there was no more pap and they went into the hills to pick berries. Get over the thought that every white person comes from a priveleged background. We all made it by working hard. When you realise that you have to do the same, you will get on with it and be better for it.

      Leoster - 2011-09-08 17:32

      Duane, what ever your ocupation is, I strongly believe that there are other capable, more deserving, even white people who can do your job better after you have left for your greener pastures so please go and remember, it is cold out there. Another thing, did anyone tell your broke mother to stop breeding, what gives you the right to insult people like that? I want to have a word with your mother over your lack of respect for your elders.

      Leoster - 2011-09-08 17:38

      DW The issue here is not who is rich and who is not. The issue here is how simple it is for someone who knows as much about struggling as he or she was told in a bed time story to believe that the person experiencing those hardships is lazy or how their parents should stop breeding. If you derive from the actions seen outside Luthuli House that all Africans are hooligans then do you also mean it is correct to presume that all whites are as insulting and disrespectful as Duan and the lab-rat?

      DW - 2011-09-09 10:01

      Leoster - my parents were also poor, although not as poor as their parents. We did not have money for new shoes and I distinctly remember wearing shoes which were too small for me for many months. My mother fed a family of 6 on 1/4 of a chicken. For my whole childhood, my piece of chicken was the neck. My grandmother was 1 of 11 children. She had 3 children. My mother had 4 children. I had 2. Each generation learnt that if you want the best for your children and want to get out of poverty, you need to take responsibility. My parents could not afford to send me to university (and battled every year to pay school fees - yes, even under apartheid!) but I got 4 distinctions in matric and worked my own way through correspondence university, qualifying at age 40! I am just sick and tired of hearing how we must understand because we did not suffer. You have no idea how much many of us DID suffer, but like you, we made an effort and did not expect it to be given to us. You have already stated how you got a matric under the old apartheid system - with 75%! And this is the system everyone rebelled against! You have made the system work for you despite the hardships. I agree that not all poor people are lazy. But most lazy people are poor, of all races (or at least should be, but under our current government, you just have to know the right people and you can still be rich, despite being lazy). Generalisations should never be made - from both sides.

  • HiJack - 2011-09-08 16:18

    Possible they should have marched to the true source of wealth. School. But that won't happen. Demanding sh1t for free is much easier.

  • willieman - 2011-09-08 16:20

    Misguided young adults ne!!!!,don't they know by now that they are history

  • sushi - 2011-09-08 16:21

    COMRADES LETS GO TO MANGAUNG AND CORRECT POLOKWANE MISTAKE, AMANDLA!!!

      Paul - 2011-09-08 16:31

      whahahahaha... from mistake to mistake to mistake..

      PinkAndProud - 2011-09-08 17:52

      Go to Mangaung and do your thing. I can guarantee you that in a few years time you'll be saying it was yet another mistake. You need to first understand the way the economy works ... try getting and education and then you might understand the basics and stop making mistake after mistake. It'll also help you realise that marching and performing isn't going to get you anywhere.

      The Observer - 2011-09-08 19:15

      can I come. free whiskey and brandy sound like a party.

      Gazza69 - 2011-09-09 10:04

      Eish....!when will the mistakes end??

  • Fedup - 2011-09-08 16:24

    Well now has Zuma tightened the rope around Malema I wounder

  • william.botha - 2011-09-08 16:30

    What is economic oppression?

      JohanDuToit - 2011-09-09 19:45

      economic oppression is a word used by people in africa that are not willing to create their own economic freedom to describe their own lazyness or unwillingness. actual economic oppression does occur in some overseas countries where there is blatant descrimination or forced labour etc.

  • Pixie1984 - 2011-09-08 16:30

    economic oppression? Who the hell is opressing you? The government YOU elected is failing to create jobs! hahahahaha idiots!

      Sgtsa - 2011-09-08 16:36

      there it is people, all in one. Why vote for them ???

  • Agwambo - 2011-09-08 16:30

    Why back off now; we were ready to show the few rich people that the youth of this country is serious with the economic emancipation - that would have driven the point home. The march would have shown lightining and thunder of our intentions

      Lekabisto - 2011-09-08 16:41

      Or you could all mobilise the youth of this country to march to schools and classrooms to show how serious you are with economic emancipation, I think that would drive the point home more than your Youth league's Idea. Just another idea use it don't use it......

      Paul - 2011-09-08 16:45

      probably know they will be too pissed to march more than a few meters to the nearest lamppost.

      Lab-Rat - 2011-09-08 16:46

      Heh, I think the world already knows your intentions. Get off your a$$ and work like the rest of us you lazy sod.

      pop101 - 2011-09-08 16:47

      Brilliant Lekabisto, why not have a pro-school rally.

      GuyverXT9 - 2011-09-08 16:59

      How about you start studying and stop marching. Economic freedom will come as a result of hard work in school, not marching up and down the streets, destroying things the hardworking generation before you built.

      ariete - 2011-09-08 17:12

      Thunder? By dropping your pants? Memories of Polokwane

      DarkB4Dawn - 2011-09-08 17:33

      Agwambo, the fact that you are involved in the march proves that you are uneducated or an ANCYL play-thing, or both. The ANCYL are using the youth to make quick money for the few at the top. The rich are rich because they work for it. What are you doing?

      Da.Liva.Delvira - 2011-09-08 17:42

      Dude... It's ".......the youth of our country ARE......." Learn how to speak it the engaleeeesh before you try and communicate. By the way, "Agwambo" does not even sound like a South African name. Are you certain you didn't cross any South African neighboring borders??? LOL!!!

      kleindeef - 2011-09-08 18:07

      @Agwambo. You cannot even emancipate your own turd out of a toilet you just effed up. Btw. Your riot was probably cancelled because you could not find any bus company willing to "transpot" your sorry asses to wherever the hell it is you want to go. Aaaaaag jirre shame. Loser.

      The Observer - 2011-09-08 19:16

      rubber bullets hurt do they?

  • Sgtsa - 2011-09-08 16:30

    Things like this make me laugh. it’s the ANC that are the problem. Stop taking all the money and start helping the so called youth. Change is needed in South Africa, Ask yr Youth LEADER to put his hand in his pocket instead of running his mouth with empty promises, you really need to wake up and smell the coffee. Please man. This country has gone to the dogs, 17 years later and nothing but pain.......

  • Paul - 2011-09-08 16:30

    A memorial lecture and a cake cutting ceremony. Firstly I can't see them sitting still in a auditorium and listening to a lecture, so I presume this is just an euphemism for a party. Cake cutting? riiiight... I am sure there will be enough knives and pangas available..

  • Mkushi - 2011-09-08 16:49

    I believe there is a march on Plett tomorrow

  • GuyverXT9 - 2011-09-08 16:57

    Economic struggle? Everyone is struggling economically except for fatboy Juju and his buddy JZ. ANCYL is a joke. Floyd Shivambu is a bigger joke.

  • birdman - 2011-09-08 17:01

    Note to ANCYL:- take ALL the wealth in this country from all the companies and all the rich people and the poor people and the government coffers. Take it all. Then divide it equally amongst all the citizens of South Africa. Black, white, brown and yellow. Everyone gets an equal amount. Will this be fair enough? (This includes your money as well Juju!) This is what you are striving for? The only problem is that within 18 months to 2 years, all the rich people will have ALL their money back, and the poor people will have NONE of their "windfall" money left. It will be GONE! Back to square one. Education is the cause of wealth. Hereendeththelesson!

  • DarkB4Dawn - 2011-09-08 17:23

    Economic freedom? Who's not economically free? South Africa is a democracy! Oh,wait... I see... this is the "we want everything for free" march. Sorry to say, but if you want something you have to work for it. Nothing is free. ANCYL, why don't you do something about the real problems: Education and corruption.

  • Moroke - 2011-09-08 17:36

    The ANC and ANCYL is here to stay, whether you like it or not. Were is the NP? down the drain. You can all complain in such platforms but fact is, we will be in power till the end of the world. We need to mobilise youth towards economic freedom in our lifetime, Land expropriation without compensation and a drive towards controlling of resources. Whites have this conceived idea that blacks cannot manage anything? Some Whites kids are as dump as anyone and even some worse than black kids. I think that the aggression showed towards blacks is based on nothing else but fear. The spirit of Oliver Tambo will carry us, the reziliance of Mandela will groud us and the agrression of Chris Hani will guide us towards victory.Just like we defeated apartheid, we will gain economic freedom, From an educated blackman.

      HiJack - 2011-09-08 17:43

      Ok, what the fak is "economic freedom in our lifetime" ??? GET AN EDUCATION AND A JOB! I didn't get sh1t for free, I studied nearly 22 years to get where I am today, so who the hell do you think you are?

      DarkB4Dawn - 2011-09-08 17:52

      Moroke, it has nothing to do with black or white. Many races share this country, as soon as everyone excepts that the sooner our nation will thrive. The problem with the ANCYL is the path they are choosing to "help the youth". Rather than fighting for quality free education, education that will boost every person, the ANCYL are distracting the youth with fake promises of "let's all get rich now." Just remember, the leaders of the ANC and ANCYL are human. Humans are greedy and corruptible. Only the few will benefit while the rest suffer. Don't believe me, this has happened in almost every nation in History. And everyone always loses.

  • JadedJay - 2011-09-08 17:37

    haha...I love to see the ANCYL bend over and get it in the ass.

  • Jonas - 2011-09-08 17:59

    Confused, irritated and flabbergasted that people are in a "struggle" when their leader builds himself a R16m home and wears R10 000 suits... someone is definitely not struggling

      JadedJay - 2011-09-08 20:17

      Yep...economic struggle my ass. Lazy a$$es don't want to work or STRUGGLE for their income and possessions like good, hardworking folk. Tsotsis!!!

  • Mzobalala - 2011-09-09 08:21

    I have been reading most of your coments, it really shows that even if you are educated it does not mean you will write meaningfull and constructive comments on the national newspaper. Most of people always complain about our goverment (Zuma) which is doing well compared to pre 94 and other goverments.You people dont come up with possible solutions its only rumours, hate and confusions. Apartheid had only negetive outcomes to every citizen like civil wars. Life will never be the same afterwards. If you did not experience apartheid please do not be ignorant about it. We will never shine as a nation if we always attack each other everytime we got a chance to voice our views.

  • CapeTownJunk - 2011-09-09 15:33

    So the headline says "ANCYL Abandons March". That's a good start. Now if only they could abandon January, February, April, May, June, July, August, September, October, November and December...

  • eloffler - 2011-09-10 11:03

    Backpedalling when you realize your leader "thug" is going to get what's coming to him. It's too late now, the whole world of honest, law-abiding people are against him.

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