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ANCYL defiance 'totally un-ANC'

2012-04-16 07:28

Johannesburg - The African National Congress has warned its youth body against making pronouncement that undermine the constitution of the organisation.

"Regrettably, the ANCYL's decision to undermine and defy the decision of the NDC [national disciplinary committee] effectively defines the organisation outside of the ANC Constitutional parameters," said party spokesperson Jackson Mthembu in a statement issued on Sunday night.

"That is totally un-ANC...The leadership of the ANC will look at these developments and respond appropriately."

ANCYL defiance

He was reacting to Sunday's decision by the league's national executive committee for Julius Malema to continue in his role as president, despite a suspension that was imposed by the NDC.

In an apparent act of defiance, the ANCYL said it would never be removed by a process that excluded the participation of youth members, and that Malema should continue performing his functions as league president. This decision was taken at the league's special NEC meeting on Sunday.

Mthembu said the NDC's decision to temporarily suspend Malema was an injunction deriving from the party's constitution.

"As the ANC we believe that the constitution of the ANC is the ultimate authority on matters of the organisation and thus sacrosanct to all its members and structures including the ANCYL NEC," he said.

"As such, all structures of the ANC were expected to abide by the decisions emanating from bodies mandated by the party's constitution."

Political solution

The league further argued that the decision to summarily suspend Malema on April 4 - for calling President Zuma a dictator - was not officially communicated to the league.

However, Mthembu disagreed, saying this was communicated with Malema. The conditions of the suspension prohibit Malema from exercising any duty as an ANC member, president of the ANCYL or member of the Limpopo provincial executive committee. He would face fresh disciplinary proceedings in this matter.

Malema has another disciplinary matter which he is appealing. He was expelled from the party last year for disrespecting party leaders.

The ANCYL has consistently called for a political solution to the tension between itself and the mother body.

On Sunday, the league complained that the leadership's refusal to meet was indication that the league itself was "charged and being banished" for reasons unknown.

Mthembu said the ANC leadership would look into the league's request for a meeting, adding that this would however not interfere with the pending disciplinary process against Malema, league spokesperson Floyd Shivambu and secretary Sindiso Magaqa.

Comments
  • Refugee - 2012-04-16 07:32

    why dont this youth league open its party and see how many people will vote for them?........... Strange enough it was the same ANC that gave youth too much freedom...... Now kids @ schools are taught to be porn stars and hump anything that moves inclueding bus seats.......

      Jigant1c - 2012-04-16 08:04

      The ANCYL is undermining the ANC constitution, but the ANC is doing it's best to undermine the SA constitution.Only learning from the master.

      Sean - 2012-04-16 08:04

      Well only half of them might be able to vote, the rest are too young to vote. Ya lets see what they do, after all they are the apparent future of SA, not a bright future, but a future. So ya kids, go get jobs, pay your taxes, pay for your services, pay for your cars, water and lights, rates, taxes, groceries etc. Let's see how you behave when the real world is on your shoulders.

      amananga - 2012-04-16 08:16

      I smell DISBANDMENT FROM A DISTANCE

      kmangi - 2012-04-16 08:22

      @Karro that's racist an uncalled for...what's wrong with some people in SA, racism is a thing of the past...get over please if you got notin better to say shut the "F" up...and the people likin that post shame on you

      Rainbow - 2012-04-16 08:28

      The ANCYL will never begin its own independent party because it is riding on the coattails of the ANC voters. Unfortunatly for the ANCYL their popularity is lessening and the only die hard supporters are a bunch of, lazy criminal minded thugs and the scourage of this country. These supporters have no real vision and live in a la la land that is devoid of morals, principals and the willingness to work hard and earn their keep the way the rest of the civilized world does.

      Glyn - 2012-04-16 08:45

      Always spell anc in lower case, never upper case letters. Do not give them the status of an upper case letter! PS: Vote DA.

      raath - 2012-04-16 08:53

      Just think how much drama and tax payers' money they could have saved if they just listened to the warnings sooner. But no, they are too proud. The anc can never be wrong (sarc)

      jannie.beirowski - 2012-04-16 08:57

      @Sean. The name Youth League is very misleading. It may refer to their brains, but not their bodies as they are actually a bit older than kids. We must also be warned against what will be if the child that will not listen to his parents should ever become our "daddy".

  • Refugee - 2012-04-16 07:32

    why dont this youth league open its party and see how many people will vote for them?........... Strange enough it was the same ANC that gave youth too much freedom...... Now kids @ schools are taught to be porn stars and hump anything that moves inclueding bus seats.......

      Alan - 2012-04-16 09:14

      whaahaa people - Mark these words. As soon as Juju is officially out of the ANC, the Hawks and Sars will swoop. And that, my friends will be the final nail in the coffin.

      John - 2012-04-16 10:15

      alan i have been saying this for months juj and a few others but gee i wish they would get a move on

  • Adrian - 2012-04-16 07:37

    Vote DA

      Glyn - 2012-04-16 08:42

      Vote DA.

      Mark - 2012-04-16 09:44

      stop with your da nonsense

      Siviwe - 2012-04-16 09:49

      I'll vote for them the day they stop discriminating blacks in Cape Town. Pay a visit to the government departments and see which colour gets preference when it comes to jobs. As for ANC, to hell with those thugs.

      Junebugg - 2012-04-16 10:31

      As much as I do not like ANC, The lives of People in Langa, Khayelitsha,Nyanga, Cape flats..So DA is also working for rich people..so I dont know why I should vote them..Just like ANC controlled areas..In CPT Rich become richer and poor become poorer..what is happening in CPT is just like in JHB...Sandton is all classy 100% service deliver, but Alexandre next door is something else..POLITICIANS ARE ALL THE SAME..

      Jacqui - 2012-04-16 12:07

      Junebugg, I agree with you the lives of the people in the areas you mention are deplorable. More and more arrive everyday and more and more needs housing etc. and there is hardly any ground and when there is land the government takes ages to give an all clear for housing to be build. The there is the appaling mess the people are responsible for making and no one cleans up. It is frustrating and personaly I wish I could solve the problem in one sweep, but no one can. So instead of judging the local government, take note of what they are doing and ask yourself where you can help. Sitting on the sidelines have never helped to solve a problem.

      Junebugg - 2012-04-16 13:58

      @Jacqui those are valid points you outlined there..But unfortunately as a citizen who works 8-5pm with no Millions, I doubt there is anything I can do to assist on this matter... My power is just left in my Vote.

  • winston.mullany - 2012-04-16 07:37

    Ain't life a b*&^. You let them run riot and this is what happens!

  • Ian - 2012-04-16 07:39

    Can someone make a decision here. Always talk..talk..talk and no action. Just throw this whale out man, gees... I am really up here..with this now. Yerrrrrrrrrrrr.

      Andrew - 2012-04-16 08:13

      The ANC - A New Commitment is all they make every day and no action. Living in La La land is no longer fun anymore.

  • Zighom - 2012-04-16 07:39

    What a circus

      sean.redmond3 - 2012-04-16 08:41

      But the country is now the circus, and we are the clowns.

      valcooperRSA - 2012-04-16 14:02

      no longer a circus...the citizens have become the lollipops the suckers called cANCer suck on

  • Herman - 2012-04-16 07:40

    The anc regime must be the weakest and most pathetic in the world. It just proves that a terrorist organisation can not rule a country, their mentality is stuck on fighting something which does nit exist, plundering which they should use and letting all disintegrate. Down with the anc!

      Sharon - 2012-04-16 07:45

      The ANC did better as a "liberation movement", because then they were all rebels, and that was ok, because it fit in with their mandate. The transition to ruling party is the new struggle - it seems to be near impossible to change the "rebel mentality" that still prevails within its ranks. It reminds me of the cartoon of the snake that ate itself..

      IcemanGP - 2012-04-16 08:00

      The cANCer murdered IFP, now they murder themselves.

      zybt99 - 2012-04-16 08:02

      Funny that you should say dat. So who has been governing you the past 18 yrs? To me that statement is all the canvassing the ANC needs. What idiots...

      Herman - 2012-04-16 08:13

      @ zybt, the anc has not been governing, they have been enriching themselves and has allowed this country with almost everything working become a total mess. Just look at all the riots, think again. Down with the incompetent and criminal anc regime!

      Andrew - 2012-04-16 08:19

      zybt99, do you call it governing? Well most would say up till Mbeki it was reasonable, but since that time it has been a shambles and corruption with all and sundry in government taking what they can to enrich themselves. AMEN

      Herman - 2012-04-16 08:34

      @kmangi, they are a terrorist organisation, any movement which uses bombs and kills innocent people are terrorists in my eyes. As for insulting me, you are the idiot too even believe in the criminals called the anc, taking your future away from you. How stupid must a person be to not see what is happening to this once working country?

      Eric - 2012-04-16 08:55

      Herman's response does not deserve a dignified response. Your a toss

      jannie.beirowski - 2012-04-16 09:08

      to zypt99. 'Governing'refers to looking after the needs of a country. The ANC is however looking after their own, private needs. This means I agree with 99% of your statement 'so who has been governing you the past 18 years?', but will change the 1% represented by the word governing to 'robbing'. That will make your statement totally acceptable.

  • revaro.winkler - 2012-04-16 07:40

    delete the idiots they only gonna destroy the whole anc

      Kala - 2012-04-16 09:02

      But that's a good thing. I can't wait for the anc to destroy itself.

  • Rabble-Rouser - 2012-04-16 07:40

    The ANCYL should start their own party. Then they can do exactly as they please. They can even call themselves the Malema party. It's like living at home and being totally defiant to the rules that your parents make. Nohing is stopping you from moving out, becoming independant and living your own life.

  • Nigel - 2012-04-16 07:41

    I think Steve Biko will agree that the ANCYL & the ANC are behaving in an un-ANC manner. These days they spend their time fighting each other for power & influence, rather than leading the country & helping the poor. Mr Biko, there is the possibility that your life contribution to make SA a better place for all, was for nothing, now that the ANC has become very un-ANC & not too different from the regime that you fought so many years ago. Its a pity really.

      Genet - 2012-04-16 11:00

      Nigel, your comments are always spot on. As far as I can see, the only thing that is anc is snout in the trough before it is all finished, pelele.

      Jacqui - 2012-04-16 12:09

      We all know that our struggle have been for nothing.

  • IAnon - 2012-04-16 07:42

    The more the ANCYL resists the wider it will crack the ANC - hopefully they will destroy each other in the process.

      Herman - 2012-04-16 08:14

      amen to that

  • Fred - 2012-04-16 07:44

    The ANCYL is effectively a new party now, along the lines of the PAC. This is not necessarily a bad thing. For the ANC it would be good. Separate and be done with it.

      Mark - 2012-04-16 09:47

      @janine, i don't know your reason for thinking that the da is a good party but all i can say is it has a long way to win the majority votes. Do you want me to tell you why or are you just going to call me names like the rest do?

  • Elkieta - 2012-04-16 07:45

    Malema has the anc by the throat it looks like.Why waiting all this time to really throw malema out?Why?

      vincent.surics - 2012-04-16 08:33

      Exactly - the comment in the news article that "The ANC leadership.......will respond appropriately" leaves us all in the dark as to what they will do. To date they have done nothing but confuse us, the ANCYL and some of their own party members.

      Zukile - 2012-04-16 10:36

      coz Malema knows a lot about the ANC and its dirties

      Jacqui - 2012-04-16 12:12

      As far as I am concerend this fly in the oinmtment called Julius Malema can be around for a long time. He is throwing some fat cats in the pan and that is not a bad thing.Disobedience is exactly what the ANC needs.

  • Refugee - 2012-04-16 07:47

    since the day the removed Mbeki theyve been fightingever since......i think they have forgot why they where elected on the 1st place. Now we know why they wanted him out because back then we had a stable economy now they are forced 2 use mafia tacticts because theyve misuse the money they had

  • Curtis - 2012-04-16 07:49

    it's stinking in the ANC. it's smell MOCHILIES = MOney-Chicks-Lies

  • Andrew - 2012-04-16 07:50

    Who is to blame for all this chaos??? None other than Zuma hiumself. He needed the Youth league to get rid of Mbeki and therebt avoid him going to jail. The wheel is now turning to haunt him. Great!!!

  • Blip - 2012-04-16 07:58

    If what Malema & Co really are "totally un-ANC" then could you spell out to us what really is "totally ANC"?

  • Mark - 2012-04-16 08:00

    The ANCYL is displaying typical ANC behaviour - These slogans were popular during the 1980s : " Liberation before education" & " We shall make this country ungovernable" The ANC is reaping what they sowed - enjoy it guys.

      Genet - 2012-04-16 11:02

      Mark, exactly what I have claimed all along. Well said.

  • Rose - 2012-04-16 08:01

    JACKSON MTHEMBU IS NO LONGER A SPOKESPERSON BUT A CHAIRPERSON OF NDC & NDCA.POWER MONGER.

      Collen - 2012-04-16 11:05

      LOL MTHEMBU IS A FOOL

      Jacqui - 2012-04-16 12:14

      Collen a fool amongst many. That's Mthembu for you.

  • boby.mafi - 2012-04-16 08:06

    The ANCYL is risking alienating itself from a good chunk of their constituency if the kids can read that the struggle with the ANC is mainly about personal issues to do with Juju and his hangers on.By defying the mother body the ANCYL HAS MADE A STRATEGIC ERROR the mother body has the constitution on its side.

  • thequinns - 2012-04-16 08:13

    Children ( Malema & ANCYL) should learn from the elders (ANC) NOT tell the elders what to do, or how to run the country. Afford them the respect now that you will be afforded when you are in power. Remember the mistake, YOU Julius admitted to in the forced removal of Mr Mbeki. That was disrespect by the ANCYL.

      Glyn - 2012-04-16 08:51

      Go ANCYL! Go! Tell Zuma et al to get lost! Form your own party! Get your own seats in parliament! Stand up like a MAN! Yes, fatboy, I am talking to you!

      Harold - 2012-04-16 09:22

      The youth are not stupid they know the difference between elders and old crooks there are no more elders in the ANC. The leaders that are there show no wisdom only arrogance and disrespect for the people. A new regime will soon be in power. Change will come.

      Jacqui - 2012-04-16 12:16

      Thequinns, No please don't let them learn from the elders. Yuo want them to become like Zuma?.

  • Justin - 2012-04-16 08:16

    I don't know what's more entertaining, the news of the anc gradually falling apart or the religious war brewing on news24 :)

      Glyn - 2012-04-16 08:52

      The anc grand crumble is winning this one! But wait until after the next elections.

  • sam.botoulas - 2012-04-16 08:18

    The ANC won't cut ties with the Youth League. They know if they do it will divide the party and they will lose a chunck of voters. Pity-they look like fools letting the their own Youth League undermine them like this.

  • amos.magezi - 2012-04-16 08:19

    If the statement made by the ANCYL that the mother body don't want to meet the Yl is true it means that Malema and the Yl are right. Can't wait 4 Mangaung,

      Jacqui - 2012-04-16 12:16

      Amos, me neither.

  • Gieljam - 2012-04-16 08:30

    This is almost as if the kettle is calling the pot black here to say the anc is not used to defiance, what goes around comes around and if you are in charge and slow to act on "juvenile delinquency" acts you sit with a ma-dillyema.

  • Shantha - 2012-04-16 08:31

    why the ancyl start their own party what is he waiting for if your parent doest not want you and abandons you then you must fend for your self. see if u have the b........... to open your own political party

  • julius.maxajwe - 2012-04-16 08:35

    Disbandment of ANCYL NEC imminent

  • Prophetess - 2012-04-16 08:37

    I feel as if i just woke up!And i'm watching the movie dumb and dumber!Then i realise,no,its real life!Its two \real life\ political figures!And they are both 'supposed' to be on one page.Man this is crazy!

  • Prophetess - 2012-04-16 08:37

    I feel as if i just woke up!And i'm watching the movie dumb and dumber!Then i realise,no,its real life!Its two \real life\ political figures!And they are both 'supposed' to be on one page.Man this is crazy!

  • Anthony - 2012-04-16 08:40

    so what is totally anc, must we all be "ja bass" ???....

  • E=MC2 - 2012-04-16 08:42

    disband them & get it over with!

  • Collen - 2012-04-16 08:43

    WE WELCOME THE ANCYL'S DECISION AS ANCYL MEMBERS WHO VOTED MALEMA UNOPPOSED. WE STIL BELIEVE THAT REMOVING MALEMA REQUIRED THE ANCYL'S CONTRIBUTION OR LET THERE BE A POLITICAL SOLUTION. MANDELA GAVE HOLOMISA ACHANCE TO APOLOGISE AND HOLOMISA REFUSED TO APOLOGISE SO MALEMA DID APOLOGISE BUT THE PROBLEM HERE IS PEOPLE WANT SECOND TERM AND MADIBA NEVER WANTED THAT.

      Collen - 2012-04-16 11:06

      THANK YOU MZI, WELL SAID AND STRAIGHT TO THE POINT.

  • Glyn - 2012-04-16 08:44

    Always spell anc in lower case, never upper case letters. Do not give them the status of an upper case letter! PS: Vote DA.

      sean.redmond3 - 2012-04-16 08:52

      anc has always been lower case to me. zuma too. Vote DA.

      valcooperRSA - 2012-04-16 14:11

      will keep that in mind when I mention C anc ER.........Gooooooo <3DA<3

  • Glyn - 2012-04-16 08:44

    Always spell anc in lower case, never upper case letters. Do not give them the status of an upper case letter! PS: Vote DA.

  • butch.poulter - 2012-04-16 08:46

    And they still trying to rule a country. Cant even dicipline there own. Will the ANCYL be attending Zuma's wedding

  • Collen - 2012-04-16 08:46

    SO when dr mthembu give the statement it is from ANC while when PRESIDENT MALEMA gives ANCYL statement about Botswana, he gives it in his own capacity according to those who want second term?

      liyaaqat.james - 2012-04-16 22:53

      You stil call mthebu dr i think ouma is the write title why dint the ANC not suspend him for his drunk en driving jhoe GWEDE u are a piece of work

  • TheMonk - 2012-04-16 08:53

    Easy solution. When one of the organisations does not do what the "mother" body wants, just disband them (remember the scorpions) and constitute a new one that does what they want them to do.

  • Rob - 2012-04-16 08:54

    Go, go, go...fight amongst yourselves. It can only be good for the country. We don't need more ONE PARTY STATE dictatorship. We need a more balanced democracy where whatever party is in the majority it is scared s**tless that it will lose its position and privelege...and may even have to pay back some of the corrupt gains of the past.

  • Henry - 2012-04-16 09:01

    1 can obviously read between the line that what is currently being done by the politicians especially at the ruling party, is totally nons***. It's obvious that this people do not have respect, humbleness nor tolerance for 1 another. How on earth will 1 be succeful to rule a country if his own subordinates disrespect him. How on earht can 1 expect the ordinary citizens of the country to respect him if he keeps on making headlines in the media for the wrong reasons. 'charity begins at home' if the ruling party groomed the culture of respect within it's ranks, some time ago, there wouldn't be such chaos. I as an apolitic, ordinary South African, say that the cause of this chaos is, the lack of respect. This chaos is going too far, I say *my opinion*

  • Henry - 2012-04-16 09:01

    1 can obviously read between the line that what is currently being done by the politicians especially at the ruling party, is totally nons***. It's obvious that this people do not have respect, humbleness nor tolerance for 1 another. How on earth will 1 be succeful to rule a country if his own subordinates disrespect him. How on earht can 1 expect the ordinary citizens of the country to respect him if he keeps on making headlines in the media for the wrong reasons. 'charity begins at home' if the ruling party groomed the culture of respect within it's ranks, some time ago, there wouldn't be such chaos. I as an apolitic, ordinary South African, say that the cause of this chaos is, the lack of respect. This chaos is going too far, I say *my opinion*

  • Henry - 2012-04-16 09:01

    1 can obviously read between the line that what is currently being done by the politicians especially at the ruling party, is totally nons***. It's obvious that this people do not have respect, humbleness nor tolerance for 1 another. How on earth will 1 be succeful to rule a country if his own subordinates disrespect him. How on earht can 1 expect the ordinary citizens of the country to respect him if he keeps on making headlines in the media for the wrong reasons. 'charity begins at home' if the ruling party groomed the culture of respect within it's ranks, some time ago, there wouldn't be such chaos. I as an apolitic, ordinary South African, say that the cause of this chaos is, the lack of respect. This chaos is going too far, I say *my opinion*

  • Lorain - 2012-04-16 09:09

    @ Anamanga i smell disbandment quiet close.

  • Harold - 2012-04-16 09:14

    Defiance of anything and everything was one of the cornerstones of the ANC Strategy to take control of power. Why should it not continue after all it was the youth that gave you the ANC power by defiance of the previous regime and it should be able to use it to remove the ANC from power. The ANC has to realise it has served its purpose and must be removed as it is becoming a dictatorship.

  • Irshaad - 2012-04-16 09:17

    Nothing will happen to malema because the ANC are scared of malema because of all the dirt he has on them he Is one man who can completely destroy the ANC.....so let us just brace our selves for a nice comedy show case

      Alan - 2012-04-16 09:23

      Unless Juju ends up in jail.......

      Irshaad - 2012-04-16 15:53

      Juju will never end up in jail because if he goes down the anc as a whole will go down so they will never let that happen

  • masilo.lephalala - 2012-04-16 09:27

    Disbanment wil solve ths mess since ths yl is nt abaint by da constitution of the anc

  • masilo.lephalala - 2012-04-16 09:28

    Disbanment wil solve ths mess since ths yl is nt abaint by da constitution of the anc

  • Michael - 2012-04-16 09:53

    Leave our president alone

  • Tebogo Thape - 2012-04-16 09:54

    anyone ever considered the disbanding of YL to solve all this chaos happening..it might sound far fetched and impossible at the moment, but should they go separate ways with the YL, this might as well bring a political solution.

  • Dru Jnr Gale - 2012-04-16 09:54

    the downfall and split of ANC.....Pssssssssss

  • Chris - 2012-04-16 10:00

    Now we will see who wears the pants in this family.