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ANCYL disciplinary hearing moved

2011-09-06 14:30

Johannesburg - The ANC Youth League disciplinary hearing will be moved away from Luthuli House in the Johannesburg city centre, the ANC said on Tuesday.

"The ANC national disciplinary committee, following the disruption last week of businesses situated around ANC headquarters at Chief Albert Luthuli House, has resolved to move the venue for the hearing involving ANC Youth League leaders to another location," committee chairperson Derek Hanekom said.

A law firm had given the ANC until 16:00 on Tuesday to indicate whether it would move the hearing out of the CBD, or face legal action.

In a letter addressed to the secretary general Gwede Mantashe, BDK attorneys asked the ANC for an undertaking that the matter would not be heard at Luthuli House, if not finalised on Sunday.

Violence

Last week streets around Luthuli House were closed as Malema's supporters pelted policemen and journalists with stones.

Piet du Plessis from BDK said the firm lost business as potential and existing clients refused to enter the area, fearing for their safety.

The hearing was scheduled to resume on Sunday, September 11, at a venue still to be announced.

The ANC was conducting disciplinary hearings after it charged the leaders of its youth wing with various violations of the party's constitution. League president Julius Malema and spokesperson Floyd Shivambu face charges related to comments on helping bring about regime change in Botswana.

Deputy president Ronald Lamola, secretary general Sindiso Magaqa, his deputy Kenetswe Mosenogi, and treasurer general Pule Mabe have been charged with contravening rule 25.5 (q) and rule 25.5(o) of the Constitution of the ANC.

The latter rule relates to "prejudicing the integrity or repute of the organisation, its personnel or its operational capacity".

The former relates to "deliberately disrupting meetings and interfering with the orderly functioning of the organisation".

Comments
  • CHIPPER_CHAP - 2011-09-06 14:44

    Why not move the ANC or any other political parties Head Offices to other locations away from city areas permanently?

      Comic - 2011-09-06 15:06

      I think Poloyatonki is one of those ill mannered babarians with sk1t for brains.

      naromi@24.com - 2011-09-06 15:17

      @truth24 - the bush rejected poloyatonki

      Travie - 2011-09-06 15:18

      @polo we would love to go stay in Canada away from all the wild animals, its just we cannot afford it at this time because the ANC has most of our salary

      Truth24 - 2011-09-06 15:20

      Krush... made me smile today :)

      JohnnyBB - 2011-09-06 15:21

      ...ANCYL supporters = uncivilised barbarians....

      Optimus-Prime - 2011-09-06 15:32

      @Truth24, your comment does not make you any better Poloyatonki. in fact it makes you the same - a low life racist!

      d2eguy - 2011-09-06 15:34

      JHB zoo ???

      Thor - 2011-09-06 15:37

      hell no leave them there just now the fat cats whants to come and loaf around sandton or mellrose. endless vip motorcades, road closures, yl criminals no thanks. Stay in town its a sh.t hole anyway.

      keng - 2011-09-06 17:12

      Preferably to the moon

      Claude - 2011-09-06 23:43

      Move it in Robin Island for example!

  • falcon2020 - 2011-09-06 14:46

    *yawn*

  • Susannomore - 2011-09-06 14:48

    Is it really necessary to announce the new venue, as reported? Surely anyone in the vacinity of the new venue needs to be protected from the Protesters?

  • Ben - 2011-09-06 14:48

    Pathetic how long this is taking...

      Tolerant - 2011-09-06 14:55

      It will probably be moved again to a later date as Malema could be in court the 12th for another case.

      allows - 2011-09-06 15:14

      They are hoping that by pospotponing it a number of times it will eventually fade from everyone's minds and will be forgotten again. Pushed under the rug.

  • Charlie - 2011-09-06 14:49

    Awesome, Juliaaas wanted the hearing kept at Luthuli House. Another win for the ANTI ju-ju's out there.

  • sganja - 2011-09-06 14:51

    I don't care,cowards.Leave Ancyl alone.

      Tolerant - 2011-09-06 14:54

      As long as the leaders get punished.

      sganja - 2011-09-06 14:55

      @Tolerant Yes they can punish them not suspending or expelling them.They must give us the new venue so that we can go and support YL.

      DeathDealer - 2011-09-06 14:56

      go jump in front of a moving bus and take your ancyl with you !

      Martin - 2011-09-06 14:58

      What don't you care about? Stop speaking in riddles man. What is this?

      Martin - 2011-09-06 14:59

      They should give me your address so I can declare it an asylum.

      ratex - 2011-09-06 15:01

      ganja, you and your test tube bruthas like kolobe, polony and ziso are the only cowards here. BTW I am still waiting for you to name the time and place. Remember I need to remove the chip that you have and install the new one, you know the chip that lets you think and switches on that small part of the brain that allows for logic to creep in. AS for your anc league, rot in hell

      ChrisW - 2011-09-06 15:01

      The ANCYL only exist because of the ANC historic struggle. Now the ANCYL toyi toyi and slate the ANC. Does that not bother you comrade?

      IC1 - 2011-09-06 15:01

      Sganja, go smoke some ganja, then clean up the garden

      MojoBa - 2011-09-06 15:09

      @sqanja - the problem is that in the old days when the schools were burnt down, it was fine, cause you were wasting the white man's money. Now, they are wasting money that could be helping uplift the black community. what you don't understand is that the white people want the whole of SA to be uplifted, because we know that it is beneficial to all. The ANC on the other hand want the majority of SA to stay uneducated, because uneducated people don't ask for performance reports.

      sganja - 2011-09-06 15:09

      @DeathDeale Im going too support them but we won't do any violence. @Martin I dont care whether the venue is changed or what,we need YL leaders free so that they can continue speaking about mines. I don't give out my addrees @ratex name is sganja not ganja okay....No I won't meet you. @ChrisW Yes it does bother me,but I support the YL Anc leaders are just stubborn. @IC1 I'm not working in the gardern I'm highly qualified.

      Martin - 2011-09-06 15:16

      @Ganja. Don't you mean: hily kwallifyd? Also, it seems you are the coward, not wanting us to know where you live or meet us. Just me and Ratex, he wants to fight, I'll just take the bets.

      sganja - 2011-09-06 15:20

      @Martin I don't see a reason why we should meet...maybe when Juju win I will invite you for the party.What about that?

      naromi@24.com - 2011-09-06 15:21

      how old are you junju and how old is your mentality

      tut - 2011-09-06 15:23

      you use the term coward so loosely. Funny how your fat little ANCYL pedi piglet hides behind his bodyguards like the dirty little rat that he is.

      Neil - 2011-09-06 15:23

      @Sganja:"@IC1 I'm not working in the gardern I'm highly qualified. " Highly qualified to talk sh*t that is.

      ryan.frey1 - 2011-09-06 15:25

      Highly qualified people can spell 'Garden', usually anyway.

      MojoBa - 2011-09-06 15:28

      @sganja - I see you have replied to everybody, except me. How come you are so highly qualified. I thought you were so disadvantaged that you could not get an education. If not, what's the rest of the illiterates' excuse. PS: maybe Desmond Tutu should ask for a once off tax for the white people who built and supported this country for the last how ever many years.

      GypseyAnn - 2011-09-06 15:32

      Is the pressure getting to you sqanja? If it gets too hot stay out of the damned kitchen (or in this case anywhere where civilised people wish to continue with their normal lives and actually do a day's work AND keep the economy going)!!!!!

      sganja - 2011-09-06 15:33

      @MojoBa Askies I'm currently doing my masters degree.I have said this many time don't look at my spelling mistakes.I dont take news 24 serious. The same to you Ryan

      robgun - 2011-09-06 15:35

      Your comment amkes no sense? Who are you refering to as cowards? Did you know that for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing? Nothing should be left alone, ever.

      Dave - 2011-09-06 15:37

      we don't care about you, find another news site

      IC1 - 2011-09-06 15:38

      Sganja, sound more like you should be disqualified, did you get your degree/diploma from the YL?

      Trextoo - 2011-09-06 15:41

      @ sganja: You are doing a master's degree in what? Woodwork? Do remember that when you write your thesis to spell "garden" correctly.

      MojoBa - 2011-09-06 15:41

      @sganja - I don't dispute your Masters Degree, I'm just wondering how you got so educated if you lived in such terrible circumstances. Wait let me try and say this simpler, because you clearly did not understand my previous post. If you had the oppotunity to be this educated, why are so many of your countrymen uneducated. Do you think it could be because they burned their schools down one by one?

      ryan.frey1 - 2011-09-06 15:42

      sganja, your comment earlier about the mines; do you realise that there are already state owned mines that have been run into the ground after they were took over and are now closed. Do you also know that it will cost R3 trillion to nationalise the mines. Do you just follow blindly or do you actually research Juju's policies, you should be able to, if you are indeed studying you're masters?

      sganja - 2011-09-06 15:42

      @robgun NDC of ANC @Dave No mate I'm speaking my mind I didnt offend you, so why I need to find another news site? @IC1 University of pta degree,university of jhb honours

      sganja - 2011-09-06 15:50

      @MojoBa Don't claim that people are uneducated, except elders. We have many young educated people in this country. @Ryan Thanks for pointing out, I'm not in the mining field, YL got people who can answer the question. I doubt if someone can say lets do this without doing a research, so I think YL did some research.

      Face - 2011-09-06 15:50

      sganja- Clever booi!

      DeathDealer - 2011-09-06 15:51

      @sganja ,are you doing masters degree in gardening or landscaping?

      Proefleser - 2011-09-06 17:11

      sganja, by calling commentators here cowards you imply that the ANCYL is no match for them, shame. But do you think that is the impression Malema and his 'kingmakers' want to present? I rather suspect he will be VERY cross with you!

      gatvol4corru - 2011-09-06 18:54

      hey brain-dead,..you are back with less iq than before! You sharing what's left of the gray matter with Juju & Floyd?

  • JitteKerl - 2011-09-06 14:55

    its been moved to juju's mansion, apparently there's enough heineken

      struth - 2011-09-06 15:01

      Lol JitteKerl!! I only wish the anarchists would mass at Juju,s house. I would love to see the look on his face.

      mo-man - 2011-09-06 15:01

      lol

      IC1 - 2011-09-06 15:02

      Johnny blue you mean, and KFC is delivering

      Dave - 2011-09-06 15:38

      and johnny walker

      Thor - 2011-09-06 15:39

      johny blue, kfc and shushi of a naked chick heaven on eart for a yl criminal

  • ianfrost69 - 2011-09-06 14:59

    @ben - Disappointing how long this is taking, but could just be worth the wait.

      Martin - 2011-09-06 15:01

      What else would we do with our time? Oh wait...I've got a job.

      naromi@24.com - 2011-09-06 15:25

      lucky you martin and most people that can think for themselves. guess who is unemployed (not me)

  • Proefleser - 2011-09-06 15:00

    I think the hearing is going on this week without Malema's supporters knowing about it so they miss out on the opportunity to wreak more havoc. Hahaha!

  • MaKaZa - 2011-09-06 15:01

    I think I am having JuJu fatique...zzzzz

  • SeanK - 2011-09-06 15:02

    How about Robben Island?? Then sink the boat

      Martin - 2011-09-06 15:05

      Have you been playing with your mothers sheets again? Or what is with the avatar?

      Felix - 2011-09-06 15:05

      Rather seal island, let them paddle there on seal shaped boards.

      Truth24 - 2011-09-06 15:06

      ...before they reach the land.

      Enigma - 2011-09-06 15:09

      No SeanK there's still history there and it's a tourist attraction. I think Limpompo will do just fine since it's Juju's home town. His followers can kill each other and mess up their own home province and then blame Juju, don't you think?

      Kraut - 2011-09-06 20:33

      TAKE THAT PIC OUT OF YOUR AVATAR.... YOU have NO IDEA...you're to stupid to call you names..EFF OFF!!!

  • Angry Boris - 2011-09-06 15:07

    Interesting news on TUKS FM, apparently the PTA university students are unhappy about an event being cancelled, and they marched to the admin building, the interesting part is that there is no reports of vandalism or chaos..... (clearly there is no ancyl supporters in that march)....

  • Buic Unix - 2011-09-06 15:10

    Does moving up/down solve the problem at hand ??? Or is this a way the ANC sees itself as probably making the situation better or rather delaying tactics, invariably the problem will continue unsolved and tax money is being spent relentlessly..which means even if the hearing was held in the moon or planet mars they will still postpone this issue to give us an impression that something concrete is being done when in actual fact their just grinding the concrete of justice just like how they play in the ANC...how can criminal bring another criminal to order...the answer is "Delays"

  • getnotted - 2011-09-06 15:10

    @poloyatonki, why dont we move you down a disused mineshaft you moron.

      Poloyatonki - 2011-09-06 16:47

      You are the true Moron.

  • Badger - 2011-09-06 15:12

    Move it to the central Sahara please!!!

  • Ingie - 2011-09-06 15:13

    @ Neil...LOL love your comments at least i had a good laugh today at all these comments we live in a lovely country. All the people love each other much think i will give you all a XXOXOXO

  • tut - 2011-09-06 15:16

    Circus on the move

      Martin - 2011-09-06 15:20

      My Western tendencies are telling me..."Martin...sell tickets".

  • getnotted - 2011-09-06 15:17

    @poloyatonki, looking at your comments on this post, you can clearly see you are an oxygen thief. Who cares if the anc is bigger than the law firm. The law firm have the LAW on their side. Once again I believe you should find a new home.

  • Victor Paul - 2011-09-06 15:20

    I bet that the moron Juju will get "sic" to postpone it even longer just to make sure that the limelight stays with him a little longer.

  • Scamatoon - 2011-09-06 15:20

    The rise of the planet of the Anc youth league

  • getnotted - 2011-09-06 15:20

    @Angry Boris, I believe they call it self control something the anc know nothing about.

  • frankm - 2011-09-06 15:21

    @Sganja, did you pass woodwork? You say you highly qualified, qualified as what may I ask, because you sound rather stupid

      sganja - 2011-09-06 15:34

      Hey Frank I'm qualified more than my boss.

      sganja - 2011-09-06 15:34

      I didn't to woodwork, I did Maths and science...

      Trextoo - 2011-09-06 15:45

      @ sganja: Well, you sure did not do grammar at school! Even with maths and science, you remain stupid.

      IC1 - 2011-09-06 15:50

      Sganja, with pass mark of 30% to get the degree

  • tiotudg - 2011-09-06 15:24

    Mooi so, gee hulle hel.

  • KB23 - 2011-09-06 15:24

    I really dnt know why ANC has disciplinary hearings...to me this guys have tea and cookies, and Malema will pull a meaningless apology.

  • tut - 2011-09-06 15:24

    I feel a movement coming on. Yip. ANCYL on the move.

  • GypseyAnn - 2011-09-06 15:29

    Sense prevailing at last! Good move on the part of the attorneys who are 100 % right that citizens have the right to being able to continue with their business uninterrupted. Try moving it to the moon - that should be far enough!

      Victor Paul - 2011-09-06 15:32

      Move it Mars...get rid of all of them once and for all

  • happycamper - 2011-09-06 15:31

    Van uitstel kom afstel...

  • Rightway - 2011-09-06 15:32

    "BDK attorneys asked the ANC for an undertaking that the matter would not be heard at Luthuli House, if not finalised on Sunday." ...... Now the daft ANC and ANCYL can see that they are not the center of attention. Life must and will go on. Well done BDK attorneys every one knows you now and anyone that can push the ANC to do anything is to be respected. Your clientèle will grow from these actions.

  • Sceptic - 2011-09-06 16:04

    Move it to a game lodge so Juli-ass can spend another 78000 for a weekend! CASH!

  • Die Agent - 2011-09-06 16:06

    If I were living in a foreign country and wanted to go to a very funny circus I would go to South Africa!

  • treveshan - 2011-09-06 16:31

    Wow, I can't believe how racist everyone who comments on News 24 is. Is this the true reflection of our country? Has everyone here (black, white, indian, etc...) just been keeping it in for so many years - waiting for someone like Julias and the YL to come along and spark the flame? This is a sad state of affairs - until we can all stop acting so archaically and basing our judgments of people on the colour of their skin, we will never progress as a nation. GROW UP!

      Moonshine - 2011-09-06 18:07

      treveshan all commentators on this site should give their real names and not an alias. My gues is that by doing that they will be more polite. The strange thing is that it is the same people that comment with such animosity. South Africa can do without them.

  • gatvol4corru - 2011-09-06 18:51

    There is nothing left for Juju's animal farm to break or steal now,...move on

  • seshike mmoledi - 2011-09-06 19:38

    As nation we do not care where the hearing will takes place what we want is to see justice done and those disrespecting South African elders be punished for that and who are involved in corrupt activities then face the mighty of law and if found guilty be charged as we think there is no one in this country to be above the law and hope all animals are equal. Let mother body show that they have still control and if not then hard luck then have to pass baton to those who can exercise their powers and discipline those who do not obey rules and laws of the country if ordinary citizens and if top ANC members like Malema and his friends then party laws be applied and if need may arise those found guilty be fire or suspended for several years so that they can make use of the suspension to go to school and learn and leave government to be run by those who are capable of doing so.Now is the time we will see if ANC has guards to act and exercise their powers to discipline their kids.

      BakkieB - 2011-09-06 19:46

      Well said.

  • Vernon - 2011-09-06 20:57

    when they said Moved i thought they CRIED

  • Alan - 2011-09-06 22:35

    Its all Kak! One side-show after the next! Its no wonder that South Africa is considered a joke in the world. And we thought that Libya was a disfynctional state...

  • flummoxed - 2011-09-07 07:00

    Oh grief! How muxh longer are we going to have to wait for the ANC to move their asses and deal with Fatboy and his tribe? Send them to Robben Island and have done. Let them experience what a real leader like Mr Mandela had to

  • tiotudg - 2011-09-07 23:01

    Dit is die mees absurde perdeuitwerpsel dat Suid-Afrika ontwrig word deur die interne aangeleenthede van 'n enkele politieke party (foefie): 'n Vergadering in Houghton is as gevolg daarvan gekanselleer; 'n professionele persoon is verhinder om 'n vergadering by Bruma by te woon. Onsin. Die stert swaai die hond lekker rond, of hoe?

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