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ANCYL not 'kingmaker'- Mantashe

2012-04-15 16:16

Johannesburg - ANC secretary general Gwede Mantashe has warned the ANC Youth League that it could collapse if it insists on called itself a "kingmaker", it was reported on Sunday.

"If you are going out there as a kingmaker and saying the next president is so and so, actually you are sowing seeds for resistance - even if you come up with good ideas," Mantashe told the City Press newspaper.

He said the league only got the right to vote at the African National Congress's 2007 Polokwane elective conference, but warned that "king-making pride" came before a fall.

"But if you go around and say 'stop thinking, the kingmakers have now arrived', you are going to be surprised because you are bringing something that is not in the ANC tradition."

The ANCYL was scheduled to host a national executive committee meeting in Johannesburg on Sunday, in the aftermath of league president Julius Malema's suspension by the ANC.

In a statement sent last week, ANCYL spokesperson Floyd Shivambu said the league would publicly communicate outcomes of the meeting, as well as its national working committee meeting, on Monday.

The ANC's national disciplinary committee suspended Malema on April 4 after he called ANC president Jacob Zuma a dictator and said he was suppressing the ANCYL.

The conditions of the suspension prohibit him from exercising any duty as an ANC member, president of the ANCYL or member of the Limpopo provincial executive committee.

On Thursday Malema's appeal hearing on his expulsion from the party was postponed.

Malema was expelled from the ANC in February for sowing division in the party and for bringing it into disrepute. He remains ANCYL president until all options to overturn his sentences have been exhausted.

Comments
  • Andrew - 2012-04-15 16:25

    How I wish this weasle would keep his mouth closed for a change. Sick to death of hearing him every day like a stuck record. I pray he gets the boot in Magaung.

      Max - 2012-04-15 16:50

      Fully agree, everything that comes from his slobbering mouth is in any case just lies.

      Sboniswa - 2012-04-15 17:25

      the fatty boom boom thought he was the kingmaker they stuffed him with turkey(tenders) now he is getting the boot, i can not wait for that day when he is officially kicked out, maybe the media would stop focusing on the fallen easter bunny for a change

  • Nigel - 2012-04-15 16:43

    well the people of SA, got what they voted for...bla bla bla bla & no delivery.

      Glyn - 2012-04-15 17:49

      So vote DA next time, just to give the anc a fright!

      Sterling - 2012-04-16 03:06

      Since the ANC is not having party primaries to allow the voters to vote for a leader, the leader will be chosen by kingmakers.

  • Elkita - 2012-04-15 16:49

    They are all the same.Mantashe is just waiting for malema to say somthing so that he can crow.It looks like as if they are afraid of malema.Mantashe can get rid of a lot of nonsense and he is every day in that crab talking mood.

      John - 2012-04-16 03:26

      Elkita, the whole cANCer is scared $hitless of Malemmer, if they weren't they would have expelled him and dealt with him already.

      John - 2012-04-16 03:30

      Showerhead knows, when he unleashed JuJu to destroy m'beki it didn't take long, he can't reel him in now and he is shivering in his boots.

  • alfred.willie - 2012-04-15 16:57

    I wonder compatriot, was this the real last resort\r\nWhich umbutho wabantu would take to discipline a young lion?\r\nHayi maan, kodwa I am so sorry that we the people on the ground are not given any opportunity to express ourselves in such matter which are of the organisation naturally belong to the people by the people.\r\nYes, I fully understand that now when the youth is firing to those in power now, they are kingmakers but when it was those who were in power they were right or if they were not it was unnecessary to call them kingmakers, why don't you find any other way to communicate with the youth, which shall include workshopped by the mother body timeously.\r\nComrade we love the anc with the ancyl, but you are killing that love if you listen to these anti-anc who become sponcers thinking they can devide you.

      Brett - 2012-04-15 17:07

      ?

      Irene - 2012-04-15 17:35

      Brett ~ Don't worry to question it. Alfred is a troll of note and never makes sense.

      Glyn - 2012-04-15 17:51

      If you do not like what the anc fat-cats are saying, just vote DA. Give Mantashe a huge fright!! Ha! Ha!

      siyadyosiba - 2012-04-15 18:43

      Ok, Alfred. Though I had to read your comment three times to gather what I would call your points, hear me out: 1. The tail does not wag the dog; if it does, know that hell has broken lose. This pertains to your kingmaker remark. 2. If you listened to the recent ANC top 6 media briefing, the question about whether the mother body did enough to guide and empower YL, was asked and answered by Ms Modise, affirming that the mother has done enough to make sure that YL is guided, developed and empowered. 3. Your view that ANC should probably have consulted the people on the ground before disciplining YL leaders, is very absurd and an unfeasible. The ANC has formal disciplinary processes which it followed in carrying out disciplining these YL leaders. Your new wished process cannot work my brother, not in any organization for that matter.

      AnthonyfromAfrica - 2012-04-15 18:57

      Irene, Ahhhh, so glad I found you, I got great news for you ! You won FIRST PRIZE ,this morning, for insulting and degrading our President, Congratulations !!!

      John - 2012-04-15 21:24

      Alfred, times are hard. The mother body has lost it and opposition parties are loving every moment of it. Mangaung will liberate us. Time lost never regain but better late than never even though never late is better. We, supporters without the membership, are behind the ANC YL every step of the way.

      alfred.willie - 2012-04-16 13:46

      I don't know how to call you, particularly DAS may be your right name I can use for you is \vampires\, I will never let those merciless vampires rule this country ever again by giving them my vote. Look whatever is happening in the ANC doesn't mean I must kill myself by voting you.\r\nANC, is an organisation for us by us therefore we will try to resue it out of any circumstances prevailing. The ancyl is the only weapon that can help us to bring the anc to what it stand for

      alfred.willie - 2012-04-16 13:46

      I don't know how to call you, particularly DAS may be your right name I can use for you is \vampires\, I will never let those merciless vampires rule this country ever again by giving them my vote. Look whatever is happening in the ANC doesn't mean I must kill myself by voting you.\r\nANC, is an organisation for us by us therefore we will try to resue it out of any circumstances prevailing. The ancyl is the only weapon that can help us to bring the anc to what it stand for

  • Johan - 2012-04-15 16:59

    Gee, only now do they tell this to Malema. Zuma has only himself to blame for this because he turned Malema and the ANCYL into the role of kingmaker to suit his political ends.

  • Gieljam - 2012-04-15 17:26

    Man I am astounded ; I've never seen such an inconsistent handling of a case in my nearby 100 years .The energy and time wasted on this case would be enough to have build a few thousand homes with enough people to spare to prevent would be culprits getting their hands into the cookie jar. They go in at an all time hi speed of about 20 kmh to do their "thing" only to get cold feet and back pedal away at a 200 kmh speed ( I like that tricycle) No wonder this youngster senses a gap(donga?)

      scnzama - 2012-04-15 18:04

      well maybe you have lived too long.it is about time you join Botha old man

      Jacqui - 2012-04-16 11:08

      Scnzema, is this how you speak to the older people in your family too? You are a disgrace.

  • Vic - 2012-04-15 17:31

    Not sure whether to regard the ANC as a big joke or a circus. On second thoughts, circus would be more appropriate, because they are a bunch of clowns and Malema is Ringmaster!

      neo.mogatusi - 2012-04-15 18:32

      And wat do u do Vic?..laugh out loud lyk its funny?wel,snap back 2 reality coz its not my fellow compatriot! Instead of most of u whites throwing funny jabs @ dis 'black' govt in forums lyk dis u shud actually get off ur comfy bums in ur plush homes,mobilise or join and speak out in real life against corruption

      neo.mogatusi - 2012-04-15 18:32

      And wat do u do Vic?..laugh out loud lyk its funny?wel,snap back 2 reality coz its not my fellow compatriot! Instead of most of u whites throwing funny jabs @ dis 'black' govt in forums lyk dis u shud actually get off ur comfy bums in ur plush homes,mobilise or join and speak out in real life against corruption

      sandy.langenstrass - 2012-04-15 21:15

      @neo.mogatusi..don't know why the black people think all whites are wealth, most of us are not wealth. If I watch TOP BILLING...the richest people seem to be the many wealth black folks that I see celebrating elaborate weddings..I personally don't know any white friends that can afford weddings like that.I certainly don't begrudge these folk who can..just don't think that most whites are rich...the rich ones have left the country.

      Jacqui - 2012-04-16 11:13

      Neo.mogatusi, Speak out against corruption, man we do nothing else, but you people insist on voting them into office everytime. Hell you don't even complain when Zuma spends R64 million on building houses for his women. Fancy how many houses they could have build with that money for ordinary people?.

  • thabojames.mohanoe - 2012-04-15 17:35

    Mr Mantashe leave ANCYL alone, and prepare for Zuma wedding. Just do Zuma the samething to what you did to Mbeki, ask Mr presi-shower to step down.

      Piet - 2012-04-15 17:45

      you voted for him!! why are you regretting it now?

      neo.mogatusi - 2012-04-15 18:09

      Relax Piet, you voted 4 national party too..!oops,i 4got it dont exist no more so u didnt vote!! Whats voting got 2 do with finding current solutions 4 current problems dude!?

      thabojames.mohanoe - 2012-04-15 18:25

      Piet i voted Anc nt Mr 4 wives, i only wanted 2 prevent Madam Z frm being a president.

      Kliphart - 2012-04-15 21:23

      Shut up! Johnny van.....

  • Pule - 2012-04-15 17:51

    Your days are limited,''say hey while the sunshines''Mangaung you're gone Mr fat.

      bluzulu - 2012-04-15 18:09

      Mr.Fat yeah, You youngsters think yous know everything and in reality yous know niks. ""Mr. Fat "" as you termed the President of this country , now produces it's greatest ever GDP. It has tripled under his reign and long may it continue. He seems to be virile enough. I hope you able to complete a fraction of this in your, I'm sure long and beautiful life. It would be regarded a success.

      Pule - 2012-04-15 19:54

      Bluzulu,more writing no facts...

      Kliphart - 2012-04-15 21:29

      Shut up! Johnny van coke.

      Thando - 2012-04-15 21:43

      Pule no name calln plz........respect yo leadership chief whether u lyk it or not. Only votes will decide who emerges as th nxt president of th ANC. U really r being politically immature......nd ths foreign culture is messn up our glorious movmnt.

      bluzulu - 2012-04-16 06:47

      Pule, I only deal in Facts. If you are that educated just google RSA GDP and educate yourself.

  • siyadyosiba - 2012-04-15 18:54

    The ANC should disband the Youth League Leadership once and for all. This impasse between the mother body and its YL structure has gone beyond a point of return. The YL leadership is just ill disciplined and lacks moral fibre. Thanks to JZ for giving these boys too much to rubbish and insult its elders ie Mbeki, Pandor, Gigaba and others without being reprimanded. The unfortunate thing is that the consequences of Zuma’s selfishness and short sightedness are suffered by the whole party.

  • Elkieta - 2012-04-15 19:00

    Alfres I am sure you can taste the rotten rubbish you comment here.Get aducated first and then come back and try again.Shame,must be hard to be like you for you and your family if they did not run away from you already.....

  • Gieljam - 2012-04-15 19:39

    scnzama , Caught you line hook and sinker with that comment was only kidding to stress the level of incompetency but while you at it to wish me so "well " it turns out that all have a limited time and what you wish others usually manifests itself upon you ,Have a blessed future .

  • Thenga - 2012-04-15 20:49

    Lol shame on u Mr Dirty beard, now u r complaining abt the YL being a kingmaker, ironicaly, simply bcoz wat the YL want doenst suits u and yo showerman. Jst stand the hit pooopoles its pay back time like wat u dd 2 poor Mbeki

  • Kliphart - 2012-04-15 21:17

    That's a public spat that is sowing divisions within the movement. ANC! NDC! Disciplinary hearing?.....guess not hey! Lol

  • Mike Purchase - 2012-04-15 21:23

    Do us all a favour please remove eachother permanently.

  • Sinobom - 2012-04-15 22:00

    Plz guyz it's gud 2 cmnet ne. But plz do not talk like dad person , plz count yr words tu. Yini madoda badala kaloku. I know u tht u ging 2 cmnt in ths stmnt sll, but Malema bro we are on the earth here try 2 control your self. Even you count yr wort so tht others go 2 respact your, live ths position bcz you going die b4 time if u continue do ths, Gd bles all of u, i lv u all guyz

  • Daniel - 2012-04-16 08:31

    Laat ons koester in die pure onnoselheid van hierdie kinders, wat in volwasse klere geklee is en voorgee om 'n gerespekteerde politici te wees. As Ju-Varkkop uit die nuus gehou word, sal hy geen stem he nie. Maar n joernalis moet ook rekeninge betaal.

  • Vuyo - 2012-04-16 10:46

    "He said the league only got the right to vote at the African National Congress's 2007 Polokwane elective conference" . This is because the polokwane mob wanted the youth league to help them remove mbeki . Now that the youth league wants to bite them back , suddenly it's not a KINGMAKER , very autocratic indeed .

      Mvikweni - 2012-04-16 22:56

      It is clear that even the person they are compaing for it is obvious they will do the same, this is not the style we should use to change leadership of the anc we need to put convicing facts not to use unnecessesary language to attact them we need to teach the next coming generation to respct as there are many alligations of disarepectful current generation, nothing immotionally when it comes to respect adult thakx

  • Jacqui - 2012-04-16 11:05

    Well they were kingmaking for Zuma and you had no problems with it then Gwede.

  • Martin - 2012-04-16 18:56

    In the matter of dogs, horses and men, character is everything. Thats true if you like it and true if you dont.

  • Mvikweni - 2012-04-16 22:30

    By the time they were contiminating fomer leaders it was not actually prevailled the true colour. But now eyes and ears of people who are purely minded is actaul valid not suspected as before that, he is tolally disrespefully.platforms to aticulate on a right manner are more than open when it comes to the conference but not panting use any distructive tools nor weapon warding unjustify to provoke the individual pablic.it i pricisely the intention to put his name in media so there should be always news attraction.Some element of having a support to other contries in order to rubbish all the gains of our clear and true democracy.It is detolarable to have south africa in news particularly of valunarable people who call them leaders of tomorrow though they just creating unnecessary raills for opposition parties to intertain, they fail even to give an ample space for NDC to finalise the process, please they must respect south africa even if he use to shout at his grandmother he must do merely to her.There is a saying character begins at home,thanx

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