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ANCYL plans to 'embarrass' parent body

2011-12-24 22:30

Johannesburg - Julius Malema’s ANC Youth League (ANCYL) plans to “embarrass” the ANC if his appeal against a five-year suspension from the party fails.

City Press understands that if Malema’s appeal fails:
» The league will refuse to elect an acting president until the current term comes to an end in 2014.

“The idea is to embarrass the ANC. It will be in a form of protest to tell them that they forced us into this situation,” said a youth league source;

» Malema’s deputy, Ronald Lamola, will run the league “but only as a deputy president, and he’ll make it known that he’s not the acting president or the president”, said a government source close to Malema’s inner circle; and

» Although Malema’s appeal is only expected to be heard after the ANC’s January 8 celebrations, Malema is planning to embarrass President Jacob Zuma from the main stage in Bloemfontein.

At least four sources within the ANC and the league claimed efforts were under way to ensure that Malema didn’t share the stage ­with Zuma.

“They fear that Julius is going to develop some selective amnesia and embarrass the president by excluding his name when he mentions other presidents,” said the source.

Kgalema Motlanthe

In recent public speeches Malema has been avoiding Zuma’s name when praising former ANC presidents, but instead mentioned his deputy and former president, Kgalema Motlanthe.

The ANC’s leagues traditionally deliver messages of support at events such as these.

Cyril Ramaphosa, who chairs the ANC’s national disciplinary committee of appeals, said he expected Malema’s appeal to be heard between January 19 and 23.

He said representatives from both sides would file papers and lead arguments, but there would be no need for witnesses to be examined.

Malema won a small battle this week by being elected to ANC structures in his home province, Limpopo.

But he still has a mountain to climb to save his political career.

PEC plan

His election to the party’s provincial executive committee was part of a plan to save him from his five-year suspension.

But cracks are showing in this plan – Malema only managed to come in at number 17 out of the 20 additional members in the provincial executive committee, with the support of just more than half of the delegates.

Delegates at this week’s conference resolved to ask the ANC to consider a “political solution” for the “problems” between the ANC and the youth league.

This, in effect, was a demand for Malema’s suspension to be lifted.

ANC Limpopo spokesperson David Masondo said the resolution was made “because there seems to be different conceptions of the role of the youth league in society and the ANC, and this can’t be answered by the narrow disciplinary mechanism”.

“This is not just about Julius, but what the role of the youth league should be in society as a whole.”

Malema’s supporters were rallying other sympathetic provinces to take similar resolutions.

Sources said ANC secretaries in North West, Gauteng, Free State and Western Cape were sympathetic to him.

Comments
  • Joel - 2011-12-24 09:52

    Cyril Ramaphosa must do the right thing and throw this Malema case out. It is clear that the disciplinary case against Malema is a desperate ploy by politicians such as Jacob Zuma and Gwede Mantashe to try and save their moribund political careers. Zuma and Mantashe should not expect Ramaphosa to rubberstamp Derek Hanekom's hatchet job. The Hanekom disciplinary hearing was a kangaroo court which undermined confidence in ANC disciplinary processes. It is time for Ramaphosa to restore confidence in the integrity and fairness of ANC disciplinary processes. ANC disciplinary processes should not be used to settle political scores. Zuma and Manatshe must use their record in office to fight their political battles but definitely not abuse ANC disciplinary processes.

      bernpm - 2011-12-24 22:54

      What is the maximum age for membership of the youth league?? How much parental (ANC) discipline can be acceptably used to keep the babies (ANCYL) in control?? When will the ANC government be given enough time to govern the country without being interrupted by their babies crying for milk or sweeties??

      Sean - 2011-12-25 01:18

      I blame the ANC for letting Malema get as far as he did ! ANCYL is nothing but circus run by a bunch of arrogant clowns !

      Ian - 2011-12-25 06:53

      joel, get off the company pc

      Jerhone - 2011-12-25 07:10

      ANCYL plans to 'embarrass' parent body Can any of these bobjaane embarrass the ANC anymore than they have and can the ANC embarrass SOUTH AFRICA in the eyes of the world any more than they have done, its the bobjaan calling the gorrila stupid

      Jean-Marc - 2011-12-25 08:16

      Joel, you're an idiot.

      Chris - 2011-12-25 08:22

      you are as dof as what he is...

      theO rAcLe - 2011-12-25 09:28

      Get rid of the YL totally, Let the youth of this country go to school and be normal, like find a job and work for a living.

      Mike - 2011-12-25 10:07

      One word, Seppuku! Malema be a true hero die for your cause with dignity and honour. I won't hold my breath but if you want to be like Che, do the honorable thing and die for your cause, I promise we will celebrate your life every year by consuming copious amount of beer. You are bigger than the cause, come on Seppuku is the answer. BTW Joel, you can also follow the believe in Sepukku and Darwin.

      John - 2011-12-25 10:27

      Joel both the ANC an the ANCYL are an embarrassment to South Africa. Both of these mentally challenged organizations are stuck in Stalinist thinking, as proved by their National Democratic Revolution plan based on Lennin. In case you have not noticed, the USSR National Democratic Revolution FAILED. In China the NDR was so BAD that the Chinese Communist Party sentenced the wife of Mao Tse Tung to death. You are deceived by liars with long words!

      Piet - 2011-12-26 05:23

      ANCYL is a buch of non thinking lawless thugs

      musazwane - 2011-12-28 18:55

      Malema is out because he is an idiot.

  • MrGuyT - 2011-12-24 23:00

    Bunch of clowns

  • Bob - 2011-12-24 23:09

    This is Political Coercion….Isn’t there a law against coercion..? Malema and his cronies are out of line and out of control. Julius Malema has done and continues to do this country irreparable damage…he needs to be removed from the political arena once and for all!

  • Francois - 2011-12-24 23:12

    Is is not absolutely wonderfull to see the ANC self destruct. I just love it.....

      steve.dupreez - 2011-12-25 05:56

      Self destruct Francois?? You really don't understand the concept of self destruction.

      colin.dovey - 2011-12-25 07:36

      What part of "self-destruct" does anybody NOT understand? ANYBODY?.....ANYBODY...? Silence...Sorry...you lost! The ANC IS in the process of Self-Destructing - even they know that....I think.

  • rbczovczov - 2011-12-24 23:14

    With Zuma putting his foot in his mouth every time he gives a speech or interview, the parent body does not need any help in the embarrassment department.

      alansmartSnr - 2012-01-06 23:50

      @ RBCZOVCZOV..Sshhsh Hush!..Zuma will rally all his fore fathers and their fore fathers and they will all come and "toor" us and punish us with unheard of illnesses, disease, poverty and if we have cattle, they'll all die and our first borne's will be born with one eye. Thats the type of Bull sh&*t he preaches.. so agaain sshhsh Hush. And his uneducated, illiterate, superstitious following believe it.

  • Max - 2011-12-24 23:19

    The ANC is unembarrassable, to be able to embarrass someone they need to have some kind of self respect or dignity. I would like to see them trying not to elect an acting president.....there are many hungry wolves in that organization.

  • Josie - 2011-12-24 23:23

    Sounds like Julius is copycatting Bob up the road. Will hang on while the country implodes around them. We need the leaders who really do want to make a difference not rape the country!

  • Geronimo - 2011-12-24 23:29

    Hold on a cotton picking minute. Surely the ANC is not about individuals but rather the principles it, the ANC, stands for? If you find you are in disagreement with the principles and stated aims of the party, then your conscience will demand you must leave. Simple. You can't have an ANC Youth League with a different vision, principles and ideals to the mother body. Without the ANC, there is no Youth League and the ANCYL must be reminded of this by the ANC. This Malema fool is trouble and the quicker the ANC boot him into touch, the better. If Malema really thinks he has the support of the minimum number required to set up a political party, then he should be brave enough to leave the party and create his own and take his chances. But sorry, uh uh, he will fail if he continues on his current path and tries to bend the ANC to his own stupid ideas that have proven to be the rack and ruin of other countries. Lol, it is all soooooo juvenile.

      Sean - 2011-12-25 01:42

      If Malema wants to break away, let him put his money where his mouth is cos he would not last anyway - I don't know how much he would have to fork out for a rent-a-crowd like he currently is bluffing the ANC with! Why are they even trying to hang onto him, do they owe him something we don't know about!?

      John - 2011-12-27 22:25

      @Geronimo This is not a "King Lear" tragedy by "William Shakespeare", where Cordelia all of a sudden starts playin hip-hop. This "Tragedy" is not about ANC vs ANCYL...ANCYL will only take side in next ellections and now all this cuircus shows the polarization within ANC. ANC left and ANC right wings are already formed...and if someone belives that Julius will be making own party is mistaken. Juju is not that stupid and don't underestimate the ANC seniors behind him. He is excellent to follow commands and he knows his target and reward perfectly. How you making Political Heroes and Saviours? You getting someone that everyone knows from your party. More scandalous is better. You turning that person against the old party "rules" and "visions" and he just keeps the "new visions" and "ideas". Everyone "expects" the changes within the own party and....read carefully...stays within the party. That trick saved so many years of politcal domination around the world. Don't expect ANC to re-write the books of Political Economy. They can play already proven scenarios and belive me...they will always work. ANCYL and all their steps never been outside of ANC...Never. Whatever we all see on political arena today it will be revealed in next elections. Just watch the "tragedy". You might find a new Shakespeare after all.

  • moby.quest - 2011-12-24 23:35

    Isn't the ANCYL supposed to be the supporting structure of the ANC? Aren't they supposed to work towards the same goal? If I was the leader of any other top political party, I'd be happy to sit back and watch how these nincompoops destroy themselves. What pi$$es me off though is that even though the ANCYL continuously mention (and prove) that they will make k*k for the ANC, the ANC is still supporting them!! Seriously WTF??

  • Sharon - 2011-12-24 23:43

    They are all fighting for their piece of the never ending pie

      Sean - 2011-12-25 12:01

      The Pie is only so big , but that part they do not understand !

  • Mbeko - 2011-12-24 23:45

    ...the circus continues ! grand finale in Mangaung !

  • Cracker - 2011-12-25 00:13

    Unfortunately we in this country are beyond the point of embarrassment about anything from whatever quarter. The current leadership of the ANCYL contributed magnificently to the insensitivity. No mileage for them as a result. In other words, who rally cares and how can it influence events based on honesty and decency? Too late now, ANCYL.

  • Geoff - 2011-12-25 00:38

    The circus rolls on...

  • Geoff - 2011-12-25 00:46

    The tent is packed...mostly with fraudulent tickets. The Ringmaster is not experienced and the animals are non-performing. The circus rolls on...

      Kevin - 2011-12-25 10:09

      Sure but why do we have to pay for the clowns?

  • Sean - 2011-12-25 01:27

    ANCYL - just a little question, is he not too old for this position already and time for the ANC to realise it and do something about it irrespective of all the ebembarrasment he is bringing about you? He has you by the b...lls and won't stop until you gt rid of him once and for all! He sees his suspension as a challenge and will go out of his way to bring disrepute not only to the ANC but to our used-to-be beautiful country which has become a laghing stock to the rest of the world!!! It's time to go, like jail for his latest threat!

  • Shoe - 2011-12-25 02:00

    Do what??? Maybe there's a new definition for embarass some of us do not know yet. Well, while at it, maybe the YL could also help embarass the earthquakes, the tsunamis, the mudslides, and the floods.

  • denis.delaport - 2011-12-25 02:22

    If the ANC leadership are smart, they would get rid of both Zuma and Malema. Seems this is the only way to restore confidence in the party

      Kevin - 2011-12-25 10:11

      Right on it will stop South Africa from becoming a gangster state ruled by a kleptocracy.

  • Blip - 2011-12-25 03:07

    TREMENDOUS! Divide and rule!

  • Blip - 2011-12-25 04:22

    Brilliant plan, ANCYL! Embarrass the hell out of your elders!

  • Wesley - 2011-12-25 05:46

    Just the fact Malema is part of the ANC is already an embaresment

  • Sifiso - 2011-12-25 05:50

    Julius Malema: "We are going to appeal this decision!" Jacob Zuma: "On what grounds?" Julius Malema: "Ellis park and FNB Stadium!"

      Peter - 2011-12-25 06:53

      Just by your comment it shows hows stupid these so called leaders are, not a braincell between them

      alansmartSnr - 2012-01-07 00:06

      @ Sifiso.. ROTFLMAO! very will said! rolling on the floor, laughing my ass off. lol

  • Larry - 2011-12-25 06:14

    The ANC is doing a good job of embarrassing itself. They dont need any help.

  • Ian - 2011-12-25 06:52

    omg, its not even christmas lunch yet and they are already pissed out of there minds , uneducated retarded morons

  • Ian - 2011-12-25 06:56

    clearly fat boy wants to be in charge of the ancyl for a very obvious reason, he cant move forward, he clearly has the mind of an infant, no i lie, infants at least learn to walk after a few months, fatso wants to stay where he is forever

  • Traygon - 2011-12-25 07:26

    Malema should be shot for treason!

  • Trevor - 2011-12-25 07:32

    So much for the ANC being bigger than the individual...the Fat Boy is in charge while his elders run scared..so much for ZULU pride..LMAO....!!!

  • Anton Mönnig - 2011-12-25 07:35

    Woa, selective amnesia. How childish. And they reckon he's a leader. Truely pathetic. Hope the whole party falls apart though.

  • Peter - 2011-12-25 07:36

    Just when we thought we could relax because the children were under control.

  • Niki - 2011-12-25 07:37

    If they have so many issues with the parent body they should start their own party - but of course they won't, as that would meaning giving up their seats on the gravy train.

  • acsteyn - 2011-12-25 08:02

    Can't wait for this. The future of this country is going to go out of their way to embarrass their government. It sounds familier. Just like 1993. Enjoy.

  • Hermann - 2011-12-25 08:21

    The tail keeps on trying trying to wave the dog. Malema's arrogance knows no limits.

  • mario - 2011-12-25 08:44

    I doubt they will embarrass ANC. I doubt anyone or anything can embarrass them.

  • comurray - 2011-12-25 08:47

    DILLIGAF!!!!

  • Toby Du Toit - 2011-12-25 08:50

    Luthuli house is on fire. We don't need no water let the motherf@@@er burn. Burn motherf@@@er. Burn.

  • phillip.havenga - 2011-12-25 08:53

    How is the ANCYL going to embarrass the ANC any more than they already have, or any more than the ANC has already embarrassed themselves?

  • Peter - 2011-12-25 08:55

    Suspended ANC Youth League leader Julius Malema has added a massive R4m farm to his property portfolio.

  • Charles - 2011-12-25 08:56

    Malema is about to destroy the ANCYL if not taken care of as early as possible.He has recently doubted the validity of the ANC constitution which poses threat to the south african constitution and he has shown disrespect to the ANC policy procedures by forging for the adoption of Nationalisation as ANC policy without following proper ANC procedures which clearly depict him as autocratic.This kind of leadership is toatally unacceptable in South Africa and such leaders of Malema's calibre should be scrapped in this country because they take us back to the Verwoerd era.

      renzia - 2011-12-25 22:05

      Who's fault is this?!? This happens when you vote for someone with no proper education. Let them destroy themselves. I wonder who are they going to blame in the years to come?!?

  • careful once you are here you can not deregister - 2011-12-25 09:31

    AH,WELL as if Malema cares about whatever is written here.

  • RemoteMedic - 2011-12-25 09:41

    Thought this was there National / International strategy in any case. Come on News 24, give us the NEWS!

  • Nicholas - 2011-12-25 10:02

    The ANCYL want to "embarrass" the parent body? By now I would have thought that the ANC had become immune to embarrassment. No matter what the ANCYL comes up with, I doubt it would be taken too seriously anyway.

  • Kevin - 2011-12-25 10:08

    Joel, you obviously think embarrassing the ANC Government in Botswana, compromising the ANC Government's endeavours to resolve the issues in Zimbabwe, publicly committing the misdemeanour crime of crimen injuria in the ANC' name and ignoring ANC etiquette by storming into a closed ANC meeting are acceptable behaviour. Quite clearly you are out of touch with reality and should take a long hard think about your future. Do you want to live in a country that becomes Zimbabwe with tenderpreneurs taking everything and the rest starving or do you want to live in a country that has the largest most sucessful economy in Africa where foreign direct fixed investment creates jobs and wealth for all.

      rlmbennett - 2011-12-28 00:36

      @ VSG. Why the hell did you go and spoil it all by bringing RACE into it. Are you f...n stupid? Do you know what you have started now?!

  • Vuyolwethu Sanele Gqwaru - 2011-12-25 10:52

    It is interesting to read all the comments written by all the racists, oops I meant to say whites. Anyway the ANC will always do what it wants, especially if it is bad for the country

      Vuyolwethu Sanele Gqwaru - 2011-12-25 11:29

      I stopped worrying about the future of SA when I realised that we never had one to begin with. All I'm saying is all these 'whites' are getting all worked up and uppety as if this is something new. Why get worked up over something you can't change? They use this as a way to push forward their racist agendas, painting us with the same brush as the ANC

      TamaraSays - 2011-12-25 11:51

      Apologies for any of my fellow whites who can't tell the difference between racist ANC and ANCYL supporters and other black South Africans. That having been said, I take it you've heard about people in glass houses and stones?

      Jacqui - 2011-12-25 12:44

      How do you know we are all white?. Jumping to conclusions is evidence of a closed mind.

      Tertius Coetzer - 2011-12-25 14:09

      that comment makes you a racist sanele!

      renzia - 2011-12-25 22:16

      I wonder who is the racists, especially if you look at who is responsible for all the white killings in South Africa? Stop blaming us "whites" for being racists and start to look at who actually is!?!?!? I would say that is the opposite of white!!!!

  • Tumelo Jeloa - 2011-12-25 11:38

    Guys,guys,guys, what's going on

      renzia - 2011-12-25 22:08

      Go to bed.

  • kgomotso.radise - 2011-12-25 12:29

    Julia’s Malema is questionable & newly elected in Limpopo (PEC) as an addinational member while his appealing for his suspension in the NEC Disciplinary Committee) & what will happen to his newly elected position should he losses his appeal?

  • kgomotso.radise - 2011-12-25 12:30

    Julia’s Malema is questionable & newly elected in Limpopo (PEC) as an addinational member while his appealing for his suspension in the NEC (Disciplinary Committee) & what will happen to his newly elected position should he losses his appeal?

  • Jacqui - 2011-12-25 12:40

    Nothing they come up with will embarrass me.

  • chris.khanye - 2011-12-25 13:01

    Looney Tunes and uncle Scrooge is the main act - the circus is in town!

  • Dirk - 2011-12-25 23:19

    I still dont understand how Malema (who is suspended form the ANC) can be elected as a ANC member... It seems like the ANCYL is a politacal party on it's own, cause they are disrespecting the ANC which is suppose to be the mother party... And they do this publicly and nothing is done about this... I guess the ANC will be bitten in the heel by this in the near future. I just hope they wake up before that and do something about this...

      Sannie - 2011-12-27 17:02

      He is not expelled.

  • Piet - 2011-12-26 05:22

    Canibals eating their own with no respect for authority and the rule of law.

  • Carlo Hayes - 2011-12-26 10:56

    Just hand out a few barrels of KFC and every body will be friends again.