ANCYL prepares for disciplinary hearing

2011-08-27 13:15

Johannesburg - The ANCYL will hold meetings around the country to update provincial branches on the charges brought against its leadership by the ANC, it said on Saturday.

"The African National Congress Youth League will hold special Provincial General Councils' and cadres assemblies on Sunday," said spokesperson Floyd Shivambu.

"[They] will be attended by all regions and branches of the ANCYL in their respective provinces... to specifically give ANC Youth League branches [an] update on the charges levelled against the leadership."

On Friday ANCYL president Julius Malema said he was ready to face his disciplinary hearing.

"Whatever happens to us, we are ready for that... People should know that even if we are fired tomorrow, our blood will remain black, green and gold," he said.

Last week, the ANC announced action against Malema and Shivambu.

The pair would face charges of bringing the ANC into disrepute and sowing division.

The charges related to comments on helping to bring about regime change in Botswana.

Malema recently said the ANCYL would send a team to Botswana to consolidate local opposition parties and help bring about regime change, as it believed the government there was "in full co-operation with imperialists" and was undermining the "African agenda".

Malema and Shivambu are due before the ANC disciplinary committee on Tuesday and Wednesday.

Provincial youth league leaders were expected to hold a night vigil at ANC headquarters in Johannesburg on Monday.

The youth league also requested to meet with the ANC over the charges against Malema.

ANC secretary general Gwede Mantashe said the party would meet with them.

On Tuesday, another four top ANCYL officials were charged for bringing the ANC into disrepute and disrupting a meeting.

The four included deputy president Ronald Lamola, secretary general Sindiso Magaqa, his deputy Kenetswe Mosenogi, and treasurer general Pule Mabe.

Their appearance dates were not known.

  • Vela Stardust - 2011-08-27 13:19

    It will be interesting to see if the ANC have teeth.

      Logs01 - 2011-08-27 14:18

      Don't bet on it.

      Logs01 - 2011-08-27 14:31

      If the ANC- Cadre's do act heavily against Malenema & Co, their young ANCYL followers will "revolt', protest and SA might see the likes of Egipt & Lybia. JM & followers already think they RUN the Country

      Rolie - 2011-08-27 14:31

      Why don't you just send e-mails to update provincial branches and thereby save taxpayer's money, you morons. My gosh, if any of you had two brain cells you would be gifted!!

      Benny66 - 2011-08-27 14:56

      @Rolie. My guess is this is malema's way of rallying the troops to attempt to intimidate the Disciplinary Comm and the ANC by way of a show of force/support. What's there to update? You and I and millions of others read the papers and listen to the news and WE fully understand what he is being charged with. So, why then the sudden need to personally update the "troops" ahead of the hearing - if not to garner their support? This "child" (he's 35yrs old?) will NOT lie doen quietly - not in this instance nor when he is exposed by the Hawks/SARS and Public Prosecuter. He has already threatened to expose others withing the ranks of the ANC for corruption if he has to be found guilty.

      THE.SRG - 2011-08-27 15:14

      Logs01...that is exactly what i said,and also remember that the lead council member is a white man so you know where the blame will fall,if the punishment is heavy it will be the start of what the ANC has always planned

      Neil - 2011-08-27 16:11

      WOW. ANCYL preparing for what? They cannot even behave like adults but now they are preparing!! HA HA HA HA This is just another word they are using to sound worth something, just like the word comrade having a nice ring to it, the word preparing is the new one.

      Koos Poggenpoel - 2011-08-27 16:23

      @Logs1 - just the excuse the government needs to show its strenght or lack there off!

  • Agwambo - 2011-08-27 13:30

    Looks like Mantashe couldn't wait for this opportunity to nail his nemesis the ANCYL; BUT your vindictiviness could come back to haunt you Mr SC. Be fair to the young lions because to err is only human. let he who has not sinned through the first stone!

      Grayman - 2011-08-27 13:34

      Yes Agwambo, to err is human, but to deliberately go against the ruling and constitution of your parent body is idiotic... and there are no pills for stupidity.

      Al - 2011-08-27 14:09

      Wtf? Must we be fair to Verwoerd, Hitler and Adi Amin also? You need a brain transplant mate.

      Rolie - 2011-08-27 14:33

      @Al - Agwambo is the longest surviving brain donor!

      william.botha - 2011-08-27 15:12

      Its the YOUNG HYENAS, not lions.

      Neil - 2011-08-27 15:41

      @William, I think the word you are looking for is clown.

      Neil - 2011-08-27 15:45

      @Agwambo"let he who has not sinned through the first stone! " Are you for real?? and you mean throw and the saying goes, let he whom is without sin cast the 1st stone. Where does this apply to the youth league? How many people has suffered because of them? To hell with them I will gladly cast the 1st stone provided the opportunity, but one will not be enough, I would prefer a truck load. young lions, what an insult to the animal kingdom.

      william.botha - 2011-08-27 15:46

      Nah Neil, it is hyenas, the head hyena himself proclaimed their scavenging tendencies when he told the public on national TV, "we are coming for that cheese in your fridge!" And they certainly don't even look like young lions, hyenas yes, lions definitely not.

      Neil - 2011-08-27 16:20

      @William: Brilliant comparison LOL!

      PinkAndProud - 2011-08-27 16:25

      William, hyena is the perfect comparison for these junior thugs. Evil scavengers with no backbone.

      william.botha - 2011-08-27 16:29

      Oh yes, glad you liked it :)

      Steve Wonderboy - 2011-08-27 16:51

      Young lions? More like a pack of those flea ridden wild dogs. Hyena's is too proud a term.

      Ogre - 2011-08-27 18:08

      To err might be human, but to err so consistently and on such a grand scale and still be supported by such a "multitude" puts a serious questionmark on the intelligence of the person that errs as well as his supporters

  • Grayman - 2011-08-27 13:32

    Looks like the Youth League is running scared. This is a typical knee jerk reaction of someone in panic.

      THE.SRG - 2011-08-27 14:03

      you looks to me like they planning something and holding up their fists.Meetings around the country and a all night vigil right outside the meeting looks to me they wanna show their power and intimidation.I always look between the lines and allot of the time im wrong but sometimes im proven right.The leadership will not do the right thing here and we all know why

  • PinkAndProud - 2011-08-27 13:35

    Young lions? More like hyenas.

  • Boxxer - 2011-08-27 13:41

    The ANC/YL know too much about each other to do anything. I predict a slap on the wrist.

  • SoftAnarchis - 2011-08-27 13:43

    So Lindiwe Sisulu supports the little racist idiot, and then she is training 8000 youths on military camps. The bigger picture of what has been planned behind the scenes are becoming apparent. This faction is hell bent on following Zimbabwe, as Bob got away with it. We need to get rid of this faction within the ANC with its racist agenda NOW, or it will be to late, we WILL be dumped into civil war.

      Koos Poggenpoel - 2011-08-27 16:27

      @Soft - the difference is that us white South Africans will not lie down and I know that we will fight for what is ours and for what we have worked for!

  • Nzx - 2011-08-27 13:48

    Is this the start of a social media revolution in SA? All the ingredients is there, a corrupt and wealthy leadership, out of touch with a poor, enslaved majority. Do not underestimate this stand off, when it comes to support, the youth league has the majority, these people are fired up by African Nationalism, recent happenings in Egypt etc is a bit close to the bone. The ANCYL is well aware of this, maybe the ANC timing is not good, this is a time of revolution, never a good idea to confront a poised revolutionary force in a politically volatile time as now. What if the masses rise by nxt weekend, start occupying Joburg CBD, Capetown CBD etc, occupying farms...the Africa agenda - not at all impossible

      THE.SRG - 2011-08-27 14:48

      i have to agree with you there and that would be the begining of the end for SA

      Neil - 2011-08-27 15:19

      Wow, and it will take one little bomb to put them in their place. Blow a few foundation beams on one or 2 big buildings, domino effect with all the idiots in the center. Simple as that. Problem solved.

  • Dominic - 2011-08-27 13:52

    Either the ANC or the ANCYL needs to be redefined. POLITICAL PARTY: It's the elected politicians who speak out about the economy, foreign relations and home affairs (particularly relationships between different groupings within the country). It is they who have the knowledge and maturity needed to make wise decisions and explain them. As elected representatives only they have the mandate to do so. YOUTH LEAGUE: It's focus is on issues affecting the youth, particularly being a link to inform and educate in the transition to adulthood about drugs, sexuality and to provide alternatives to gang culture. Usually a youth league does not communicate directly with the press, but expresses its ideas and grievances internally to the political party. As far as the ANC and ANCYL are concerned, the roles are reversed with the exception that it is the ANC who were elected. The ANC's own youth league appears to have less confidence in the ability and wisdom of their own elected members than the DA.

  • grant9 - 2011-08-27 14:14

    I sense that things will shortly come to a head. It's no longer a case of the tail wagging the dog, it's gone beyond that. My take is that the ANC will back down. This will serve to enbolden the YL and what happens next is anybodys' guess. The next 2 weeks will be crucial.

  • Thandi - 2011-08-27 14:31

    I wonder how they are preparing? Are they doing clever and sensible things like analysing how they can move forward in a positive and constructive way - I very much doubt it. The more likely scenario is - who do we have to pay: who do we have to threaten or bully: what information do we have to destroy or hide: what witnesses do we have to make disappear: have we paid showerhead and the evil one enough: do we have to mobilise the kids (youth) to disrupt the proceedings: and so the list goes on - do it the ANCorruption way. Come next week, fatboy , dumb and dumber will all have been slapped on the wrist and will be voicing their moronic rantings more than ever before. Watch this space.

  • Yislaaik - 2011-08-27 14:33

    They are as bad as each other. You pay a lot to watch a boxing match, this is free. Of course I don't like JM, but he has not been accused of rape, not does he have a dozen wives and a hundred kids being supported by taxpayers money and bribery. And he had no chance of causing anything in Botswana. That accusation is a mere formality. He would have been hanging in a tree a metre the other side of the border. I was sorry he didn't get that far.

      Thandi - 2011-08-27 14:49

      Do you honestly believe that fatboy would have ventured across the border himself? He is such a yellow-bellied coward that he won't even venture out of his front door without a herd of bodyguards (aka thugs) in tow. And why does somone who is not even an elected politician need bodyguards like a stupid cheap common hoodlum?????? - because he is a stupid cheap common hoodlum.

  • PMG - 2011-08-27 14:42

    They are preparing by ordering everything KFC has to offer on its wacky Wednesday special.

  • william.botha - 2011-08-27 15:11

    Guilty without the benefit of doubt.

  • Neil - 2011-08-27 15:13

    @Vela: Last time I checked chickens do not have teeth. ANCYL prepare? Prepare for what? They cant even do something simple like BEHAVE themselves and now they are preparing? WOW, nearly fell of my chair laughing when I read this. BTW, how do you prepare against something where the facts and proof are so overwhelming? No, just like the word comrade has a nice ring to it the word prepare is the next one that got stuck in their heads. Next thing we will hear is that Malema is "preparing" to go to prison. The ANC's decision here will determine the way forward which will be.. ANC = For South Africans ANC = For each and every criminal. I think the 2nd point will be the most likely one.

  • maseratifitt - 2011-08-27 16:08

    It already happenned :

  • maseratifitt - 2011-08-27 16:09

    It already happenned :

  • Yislaaik - 2011-08-27 16:19

    Don't be surprised if you hear a rumour about Obama importing Super Rose after the planned coup was because of US imperialist (3rd force?) involvement in Botswana. I am wondering what Khama thought about it too. Botswana is developing, SA is going the other way.

  • Morne - 2011-08-27 16:32

    Ever seen a stupid person cross the street? when they see a car is coming they simply look the other way,apparently, if you cannot see the car it cannot hit you. All of us (the entire South Africa) find ourselves in exactly that same this case case though its a truck, and look or don't look......ITS GOING TO HIT US!!!!!!!

      Thandi - 2011-08-27 17:48

      Nice analogy - and the truck is going to hit us very very hard.

  • jen - 2011-08-27 17:57

    The YL are hoping Zuma will fold and give the middle aged hyena a slap on the wrist, but actually they forcing the ANC to expel him. If they don't, he will be in a stronger position to force Zuma and Mantashe out next year. They have no choice - either Malema goes or they do. And once he's out, he won't have a platform anymore and his support will dwindle. Won't be another Tunisia It won't be the poor who are marching, just the privileged ANCYL youth. Just look at the pics of them - well dressed and think it's all great fun.

  • Davearch - 2011-08-27 19:04

    When the corruption charges ??

  • nkhadi - 2011-08-27 20:43

    The ANC i hope will deal with issues but not individuals. they should not protect their positions for next year in mangaung rather deal with issues. we all know that malema with his big mouth is a threat to Zuma and Mantashe. I am not malema's fan but judging by the 100th anniversary and election of leaders next year i smell poison not the rat. Even if malema succeed on the DC, he still has to face The Hawks, Thuli Madenzela and Sars. Good luck boy, you really need it this time.

  • Jemudo - 2011-08-27 21:25

    Thanks ANCYL leaders that how african's behave as africans we should always show respect to our elders, don't worry with those who are waiting for down fall they will see you proper since the spirity of our forfathers the Nkwame Nkruma, J Nyelele, P Lumumber, KK, Mugabe, Nuyoma who were adivocating for one Africa will be with you and the powers of the almighty GOD will suround you all.

  • Mafele - 2011-08-27 22:22

    Yes, your blood must stay black, green & gold. You can't forget where you looted so many millions from !!!

  • TOKYO3991 - 2011-08-27 22:31

    Corruption, greed, fraud, racism, nepotism, "cadre-ism", dishonour, stupidity... all badges of honour, ne prerequisites indeed, for membership to the inner sanctum of the ANC and it's thuggish Toddler Squad. The Goon Platoon will receive a slap on the wrist in public (to great fanfare and publicity of course), be wined and dined on Nandos in private and exalted by the cancerous ANC Elders for being the national disgrace that they are. These Gucci socialists have no interest in improving the lives of the majority of underpriviledged SA's living in shantytown squalor whatsoever. I'm thoroughly GATVOL of the rotting cesspit that has become South Africa!

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