ANCYL supports Manyi in media row

2011-06-22 16:06

Johannesburg - The ANC Youth League came out in support of government spokesman Jimmy Manyi on Wednesday saying the media was committed to false reporting and spreading lies.

"We support comrade Jimmy Manyi in his efforts to engage on a balance of truths as opposed to being a subject of the Fourth Estate, one which should forever be committed to unbiased reporting, objective truth based on fact and not personal hatred against the government led by the ANC," a league statement, signed by its spokespeople Magdalene Moonsamy and Floyd Shivambu, read.

This follows an interview Manyi conducted on 702 Talk Radio on Tuesday where he said the media were hostile, that it was a fiction that government advertising would be placed with pro-government publications, and that the SA National Editors Forum (Sanef) had shown "almost cartel-like tendencies".

The league remained resolute in its stance that Sanef had committed itself to rejecting and denouncing anything positive about the ruling ANC and the government.

"This has been continuously exposed by the negative reports, allegations and doomsayer approach with which the media commits itself to reporting about the ANC.

"It should not be that in a country that allows one the privilege of freedom of speech through the Constitution that an expression of truth against the media is equated to treason and should be a punishable offence. This, especially when the media is committed to false reporting and spreading of lies."

Personal hatred

The "notorious tendencies" of personal hatred towards the ANC were unwelcome.

"We will support [comrade] Jimmy as we have no valued faith in Sanef and its puppets. We will strive for the hasty installation of the media appeals tribunal and remain resolute that our people are not naive to the threats made by Sanef.

"We are aware of their cruel intent and will never become slaves to a media that is failing to attack the ANC with facts and hence relies on lies."

Shivambu is a director of youth magazine Loocha which launched last week with league president Julius Malema on its cover.

The group editor is Joseph Aranes, who was political editor of The Cape Argus when it was reported he and other staffers were allegedly paid by rivals within the ANC to manage news articles in such a way as to damage the political ambitions of their opponents.

The Christian Democratic Party called on the government and Sanef to "seriously attempt to find common ground so that the freedom of the press will be firmly established through convention, for the sake of a well informed public and an unhindered ability to combat corruption.”

Sanef wrote to Minister in the Presidency Collins Chabane, who is Manyi's boss, asking for an urgent meeting to discuss what Sanef feels are deteriorating relations between themselves and Manyi.

  • ShRoOm PoPsiCLe - 2011-06-22 16:12

    If this country were in the hands of the ANCYL we would practically be Zimbabwe. State controlled media and land grabs without compensation. A true anarchy ruled by those in number, and quickly driven into the ground.

      Pickle - 2011-06-22 16:21

      Don't forget the Ethnic cleansing....

      Gorilla - 2011-06-22 16:30

      The ANCYL is a boil on the backside of the ANC. Uncomfortable, embarrassing, painful and something one is unable to ignore.

      USSA - 2011-06-22 16:36

      I agree with pretty much all you say, but let me make this very clear. White people in South Africa will NOT go down without a intellectual, and if needed, physical fight. We are not Zim.

      Enough! - 2011-06-22 16:45

      This is so funny! Malema is merely a puppet in the hands of Zuma. Once the truth about Zumas agenda and the uprising against Xhosa political power and the fight against economical power is revealed it will blow up right in their face. Its not about the poor but merely about the power hungry Zuma seeking to destroy what Mandela has build.Malema is right when he says there will be a uprising soon, but it woun't be as he thinks but will turn against him and Zuma who was seeking to control and achieve a Zulu revolution against the rest of the country! Watch this space!

      rasool1938 - 2011-06-22 21:23

      Like the idea of a state controlled media ; maybe real change is in the offing because the white reporters are so blatantly biased.

      The Observer - 2011-06-23 11:10

      rasool. Name the whites for us. As far as I remeber this year most of the articles raised and contested by your anc cadres was written by blacks you tosser.

      farmworker - 2011-06-23 17:29

      At least you acknowledging that the Ruling Party is doing a splendid work

  • Slapper - 2011-06-22 16:15

    The whole lot of them have lost the plot, unless its a deliberate attempt to enrage the media? This man should not be in this or any official position.

      James Weather - 2011-06-22 19:17

      You just have to see what side Juliass is on to know who are the bad eggs. A normal human in Juliass's case would do some good every now and again. But not Juliass this brave legend seems to be trying to make a point about going for EVERYTHING that is wrong... Well done Juliass you are a true right winger!!!! I hope you meet the same fate as the other right wing leaders have in this country...

      rasool1938 - 2011-06-22 21:24

      High time the media is reigned in and sanctioned

  • Jan - 2011-06-22 16:16

    "Tendencies" The Youth league should really look for a new word of the month this one has been very popular but it’s getting old... Go on JuliARSE pick up that dictionary and surprise us with a new big word!

      jbjoe - 2011-06-22 18:34

      must be because it sounds so close to 'tender'

      rasool1938 - 2011-06-22 21:52

      At least you spelled the word correct , contrary to popular believe that Afrikaners can't speak , write or read ENGLISH.It's 2 high u can't come by.

      Jan - 2011-06-23 08:17

      Well here is some egg for your face... contrary to popular belieF (F) do you get that? and in a sentence you write the numbers out T W O say the letters out loud TWO.

      daaivark - 2011-06-23 08:54

      @rasool: "correctly" - if you are talking language.

  • Shadoz - 2011-06-22 16:17

    both these idiots are as pointless as alcohol free beer.

      KnysnaSha - 2011-06-22 16:49

      Nice to see Malema brown nosing the ANC now. Maybe he is feeling a bit idiotic over all his veiled threats tothem?

  • SOMEONE123 - 2011-06-22 16:18

    Oh well, did we expect anything else from the ANCYL?

      Beannie - 2011-06-22 16:25

      No that would be living in never never land. This country of OURS will never, never be any good with the ANCYL calling the shots, and big mouth Malema opening his fat chops. Can't someone anyone shut the whole lot of them up, please.

      rasool1938 - 2011-06-22 21:49

      At least SOMEONE123 expects Malema & the ANCYL to entertain & enlighten SOMEONE123 daily.What this space.

      DJI - 2011-06-23 08:15

      rasool, a few comments up you talked about someones spelling, maybe you need a few classes. idiot, Watch this space.

  • myancmyfutur - 2011-06-22 16:19

    It's just unfortunate that the media is even resorting to stance such as ganging themselves against government and the ANC and that is likely to influence their reporting.

      Tolerant - 2011-06-22 16:45

      The Media only wants a different spokeperson to work with, Manyi should be redeployed.

      Valis - 2011-06-22 17:34

      Can you show us ONE single instance where the media spread lies about the ANC? No? I didn't think so...

      call a spade - 2011-06-22 18:15

      MYANC can you tell us something about your minista Sicela Sicheko. Still on paid sick leave in his taxpayer sponsored expensive mansion somewhere on a hill? You MUST be a moron to believe in this anc thugs.

      rasool1938 - 2011-06-22 21:26

      Remember the Rule of Law ; 2 sides 2 a story???

  • tokoloshe - 2011-06-22 16:19

    Could the ancyl(kindergarden) give us 5 examples of false reporting and spreading lies.The media dont stand a chance against the anc ministers for spreading lies.

      code - 2011-06-22 18:55

      Too right! Here is the perfect opportunity to use empirical evidence (ink on newspaper) to substantiate their claims. But you see, somehow it's more important to mention it publicly than for it to be true. Suspect tactics for suspect reasons.

      DJI - 2011-06-23 08:18

      rasool, if the government weren't thieving, corrupt a$$holes, then the media did not have to report on them. Think boy, Think.

  • G8 - 2011-06-22 16:19

    Shut up Julius "I am too important to be a narcissist" Malema! PS: No Julius, a 'narcissist' is not a fan of that white Naas Botha.

  • willieman - 2011-06-22 16:20

    There goes the kindergarden again,supporting crap as usual.ANCYL in general operate on hearsay politics 'cause they DO NOT read

      rasool1938 - 2011-06-22 21:42

      They are not reading this crap that you are on about bushman

  • PMG - 2011-06-22 16:20

    Who cares what those retards at the NOT so youth league think?If Juju and Floydy shared a braincell between them,then maybe we could take them serious,but unfortunatly they dont,so we can not.

      rasool1938 - 2011-06-22 21:45

      It doesn't matter what they think because apparently you care about what they think , hence this racist drivel.

  • biskit - 2011-06-22 16:20

    It's not me i swear...just ask my friend Jack!

  • Thembisile - 2011-06-22 16:21

    ANCYL and Jimmy Manyi let it be known in your heads that have a comrade mentality, you are paranoid and I wonder why?

      USSA - 2011-06-22 16:33

      This "comrade" thing doesn't apply to white people anywhere in Africa...actually quite funny how it's being abused. However, at least when Zumski, Mal Enema an all the rest use the word, we as white people (and anti-ANC black people) know we are excluded from the statement or comment.

      maseratifitt - 2011-06-22 18:20

      "Comrade" is their mating call. Come raid SA!

  • cmtha - 2011-06-22 16:21

    I fully agree with Manyi this time around... this SANEF body is bloody useless. I wonder how many black people sit on its

      Lab-Rat - 2011-06-22 16:35

      Always about colour huh?

      PMG - 2011-06-22 16:44

      SANEF is mostly black,you bloody fool.

      kleindeef - 2011-06-22 16:51

      @cmtha SANEF councel Black male - 9 Black female - 3 White male - 8 White female - 4 Eish. Ones foot in ones mouth hurts a bit.

      willieman - 2011-06-22 17:14

      You just displaying your ignorance in public.Find out who is owning this media houses(print,radio even electronic we not going to spoonfeed you) i can bet you,you gonna get a shock of your life.This nonsense of playing race card says to me you are bankrupt with ideas you cannot debate rationally

      maseratifitt - 2011-06-22 18:27

      No logic. Pure racism.

      rasool1938 - 2011-06-22 21:34

      The arrogance of these moronic white asholes.Get a life you are not in charge anymore so now you whinge and bitch because a Black person like Malema is stealing your limelight.

      DJI - 2011-06-23 08:21

      rasool, he is stealing YOUR money as well, did your mom throw away the baby and raise the placenta? No human can be as stupid and arrogant as you, o ja, there is julias as well, you brothers?

  • jjhvan - 2011-06-22 16:21

    They are SOOOO important now. Challenging everyone and everything. Enjoy your ride... for the moment. You are going to fall so hard.

      rasool1938 - 2011-06-22 21:40

      They are the FUTURE so get use to the idea of them becoming even more important and you edging closer to oblivion.

      maseratifitt - 2011-06-23 09:35

      The FUTURE, rasool? Just a reflection of a distant, dark past, if you ask me.

  • Deeteem - 2011-06-22 16:21

    I do not see anything good coming from this !! Was is Bob Marley who sang "we are sliding" ??

  • USSA - 2011-06-22 16:22

    Oh give me a break ANCYL. They just had to voice there opinion...nothing to sling at white people today? Ag hoo. Give them all a lollipop each, the whole bunch of 30-year old plus "youths".

      rasool1938 - 2011-06-22 21:39

      Maybe the ANCYL need to ignore whiteys for change because they contribute very little to the NEW SA.Instead they just moan and groan all the time.

      seven7 - 2011-06-23 11:39

      I suppose you don't want/need the "whiteys" tax either?

  • zulufox - 2011-06-22 16:22

    the ANCYL and its leadership annoys me...

      Lab-Rat - 2011-06-22 16:39

      Same here.

      BMFree - 2011-06-22 16:49


      Jamesons - 2011-06-22 20:12

      Bloody agents.

  • Currie_Mafia - 2011-06-22 16:23

    This Fourth it like Oranje for Indians & Coloureds ?... So when can I move there ? ....Ah, just like the good ol' days...

  • Kleinjan - 2011-06-22 16:23

    It's because of apartheid....

      Marieta - 2011-06-22 16:54

      Can only be lol

  • Ltk.Warric - 2011-06-22 16:26

    Iam sick of this.

      Frans Smith - 2011-06-22 17:39

      so was i, that is why i felt i had no choice but to leave.....

  • miya7 - 2011-06-22 16:27

    I support comrade Jimmy Manyi.We are aware of their cruel intent and will never become slaves to a media that is failing to attack the ANC with facts and hence relies on lies." AMANDLA1!!!!!! AYESABA AMAGWALA'''''

      ShRoOm PoPsiCLe - 2011-06-22 16:31

      So you are all for state-controlled media then? The truth hurts - ever heard that saying? So instead of accepting the hurt you'd rather have a media that the ANCYL controls, one that prints happy-go-lucky stories about the government and paints everything as a pretty picture while you read it through your rose-tinted glasses?

      Lab-Rat - 2011-06-22 16:43

      You'll always be a slave. Haven't you ever noticed that it's always the ancyl comrades that are always saying things like, we won't be slaves, teagirls, opressed, struggle etc. With such a great persecution complex don't you see the irony in the fact that you are a slave? True liberation and freedom is begotten from oneself and you dear miya are not liberated from your own mental chains.

      USSA - 2011-06-22 16:44

      There we go with the "comrade" thing again. Do you even know what a comrade is? (Besides another person who agrees with your black self?)

      OCD - 2011-06-22 16:58

      You are about as idiotic as your comrade Jimmy...

  • seanfaria - 2011-06-22 16:29

    Idiots ! they would support any ANC person even in a rape incident...Oh hold on they already did that with Zuma mmmmmm makes you think right

  • Plakkie - 2011-06-22 16:30

    Aren't we supposed to be a democracy??.. State controlled media, land grabs without compensation; doesn't sound to me like a democratic society..

      USSA - 2011-06-22 16:47

      The word democracy has NOT ever applied (well not the dictionary version) to the New SA...never.

      TamaraSays - 2011-06-22 20:45

      There is no word for democracy in Pedi. Therefore it does not exist.

  • ray.antigay - 2011-06-22 16:33

    It is funny how everyone outside the ANCYL is considered as puppets, The Madam's tea girl, etc. From what is reported above, it sounds like the whole world is against the ANCYL with "almost cartel-like tendencies and "notorious tendencies" of personal hatred. Shame...I wonder why? Maybe it's time they just disappear into thin air. Or no, wait...The Pharmaceutical industry can make a killing by supplying the ANCYL with huge doses of PROZAK! RETARDS are what they all are! Viva Malema...with all your "the world owes us" tendencies!

  • scud - 2011-06-22 16:33

    How do they find so many mental midgets?

  • Zeeb - 2011-06-22 16:33

    Would we expect anything else from this band of idiots.

  • Johan - 2011-06-22 16:35

    hhhhhhhmmmmmmmm . . . . "almost cartel-like tendencies " sounds a lot like his brother Malema doesn't he ??

  • Philani Khumalo - 2011-06-22 16:35

    Seriously what Jimmy Manyi is trying to do and the ANCYL they will kill this country to be like Zimbabwe. Killing the freedom of press is like killing the nation. We don't want Zimbabwe.

  • Eric West - 2011-06-22 16:36

    "The group editor is Joseph Aranes, who was political editor of The Cape Argus when it was reported he and other staffers were allegedly paid by rivals within the ANC to manage news articles in such a way as to damage the political ambitions of their opponents." BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • flyingsaucer - 2011-06-22 16:40

    Shame, poor Manyi - it can't be helpful if the ANCYL supports your efforts. Genuinly SA patriotic individuals without any racial preferences just can't take that zero IQ excuse of a political party seriousely... Basically, if the ANCYL stands behind a cause, that cause can't be trusted!

  • Richie - 2011-06-22 16:41

    THEY WOULD, WOULDN’T THEY? LOL ... The media must kiss ass not ask questions, is that what they want? Do they think Cameron, Obama, Merkel, Sarkozy, ... get easy rides from their media. No they get scrutinized, questioned and nailed around every corner such is the nature of the media... IT is their JOB and they do it all over the world except in places like North Korea, China and the Middel East and see how well the people live there .... NOT! People must understand that the media is the front line.... between us and tyranny. Look what the controlling the media did through apartheid... the apartheid government tried to block the media. It was hidden from most South-Africans and the world, and if it were not for the media .... the worlds attention and the rest of South Africa’s attentions would never have been pointed to the mistreatment and evils of apartheid. Funny how the thing that set them (ANC & ANCYL) free has now become their greatest enemy .... funny how the tables have turned.

  • Sarcastic - 2011-06-22 16:42

    I wonder if anyone, within the ANCYL or the ANC, contemplated an uprising, in the same manner that the ORIGINAL ANC, was formed, against corruption. An organisation that would be made up of people who actually make a difference in this beautiful country. People,who with intellectual strength, retaliate against the corruption and one track minded fools chosen by fools to lead them to a better life. Vavi had it right when he said that this country was sitting on a ticking timebomb. Vavi referred to the uneducated youth. I say he should have referred to the educated youth. An organisation that is neither ANC nor DA. A Team that is reflective of a true SA.

  • Mainecoon8 - 2011-06-22 16:43

    1. Nationalising assets ie: the mines 2. Grabbing land/farms without recompense 3. Scaring away investors ie: Africa for Africans 4. Supporting the muzzling of the press 5. Espousing black nationalism (ie racism) 6. Determining policy through populism with fake or flawed scientific/intellectual/rational analysis or, a solution to fit a pre-determined political bias; 7. Marginalising all minority groups from their structures; 8. Starting a campaign of implicit delegitimisation (ie whites are criminals); all symptomatic not so much of a Zimbabwean descent into failed statism, but an echo of something altogether more worrying from the 1930' National Socialism or NAZIsm. We are truly blighted for having an ugly parody such as Malema come to life with the fuel of publicity given to him by his sycophantic and probably fearful acolytes.

      Lab-Rat - 2011-06-22 16:52

      Rather well said squire.

      BMFree - 2011-06-22 17:14


      samzaG - 2011-06-22 17:33

      Obnoxious fool nationalisation- means business partnership , where state has 51% rest owned by BEE Grabbing of Land- Afrikaners started grabbing land before Mugabe, they showed us how to grab land whites grabbed land from blacks, have you forgotten' press- liars/abusing human rights scaring of investors-same mentality you had in 94 of scaring ppl against ANC govt, today you still dont want to go.

      Felix - 2011-06-23 08:44

      samzaG, is ignorance bliss?

  • Daveza - 2011-06-22 16:44

    Who gives a continental fart about what the kiddies club have to say. The reason the media don't report on anything positive about the ANC is that there isn't anything positive to report. And whose fault is that - the medias ?

  • Johnny - 2011-06-22 16:45

    Of course they will support him. Birds of a feather, fascists!

  • BMFree - 2011-06-22 16:46

    There is no hatred in the truth. If the gov is so concerned about what the media puts out there perhaps they should actualy DO somting positive for the media to report on, And since when is the ANCYL the be all and end all, The ANCYL is just that, a leage not the governing party!!!!!!!!!.STOP trying to make policy.

      PB - 2011-06-22 16:55


  • KnysnaSha - 2011-06-22 16:47

    Without the media Malema would be nothing, he has grown in stature thanks to them. And I would love to know what he feels about the state broadcaster, the SABC? Do they fall in this bracket. Most of their employees are either ANC members or affiliated to them according to Wikipedia who is quite unbiased.

  • bob - 2011-06-22 16:48

    what a waste of time, really, maybe all of the ANC should just take the rest of the year off.

  • Henry - 2011-06-22 16:51

    mis quoted? That seem to be the anc line. Why should the media lie?? Was it not julius that got upset with a journalist ?? or did I get that wrong. And ancyl blame the news media ??

  • FRpower - 2011-06-22 16:51

    ANCYL is run by overaged dumb phucks.

  • Shees - 2011-06-22 16:52

    2 ARTICLE D: AIMS AND OBJECTIVES (of the ANCYL) The ANCYL shall: 1 strive to rally the youth of our country to support and unite behind the ANCYL and actively participate in the struggle to create a non-racial, non-sexist, united, democratic and prosperous society; (I find Malema racist?) 2 support and reinforce the African National Congress in the attainment of the goals of the National Democratic Revolution; (Malema Openly contradicts ANCs policies) 3 ensure that the y outh make a full and rich contribution to the work of the ANC and to the life of the nation; 4 champion the general interests and rights of the South African Youth in the socio-economic and political life of the country; 5 promote unity and patriotism among the youth; (Malema is causing unrest and racism) 6 promote the creation of a broad, non-aligned pioneer movement and fight for the rights of children as enshrined in the UN Declaration of Children's Rights; 7 strive and work for the educational, moral and cultural upliftment of the youth; 8 promote gender equality in a all spheres of life, especially amongst the y outh; 9 promote among y outh the spirit of international solidarity, peace and friendship with other nations; (Zeniphobia?) 10 to champion the cause of the African Renaissance. mmmmm.....

      Lofty - 2011-06-22 17:09

      I wonder if Malema has ever read the UN Declaration of Children's Rights

      Electronic Cemetery - 2011-06-23 09:51

      Nope he hasn't!

  • Riaan - 2011-06-22 16:52

    Comrade jou neus teen my hol, you useless cretins.

  • Marieta - 2011-06-22 16:54

    OMW whats next....???pffft!

  • TamaraSays - 2011-06-22 16:56

    You might be able to silence the local media, but how do you propose to silence the international media? How do you plan to stop the bloggers? How do you propose to stop people from sending text messages around the world? How can you stop letters? Make no mistake, no matter what happens, the truth will get out there. Even if people have to use carrier pigeons, the world will know what's going on in SA. So maybe it's time to stop trying to treat the symptom, and start treating the cause?

  • safferoverseas - 2011-06-22 16:58

    wondering if they will be as open about the threats of the anc as they are about the perceived threats from the media. if they have actually noticed the threat of bankruptcy bearing down on them due to the corruption and just plain theft by most members of the anc. how is it that a nobody like malema can be a millionaire when he has not done a days real work, unless it's through corruption and theft.

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  • Janine - 2011-06-22 17:05

    Of course they do!

  • Bheki - 2011-06-22 17:07

    media spred lies about the anc as the anc is doing a perfect job with everything and if it wasnt for the media there would be no problems exept our land being stolen and mines and cars, we need to silence the midia to get democracy working and people jobs !

      Felix - 2011-06-23 08:48

      Are you having fun? Looking for a bit of attention, shame.

  • Sho Fukamachi - 2011-06-22 17:08

    LOL. Who cares, the ANCYL is worthless. If they had their way this country would've been flushed down the drain a long time ago.

  • Baakens - 2011-06-22 17:09

    Do you believe anything Floyd "Sleeping around is sleeping around" Shivambu says? He is a moron speaking on behalf of other morons.