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ANCYL won't budge on nationalisation

2012-06-26 17:40

Johannesburg - The ANC Youth League will continue to push for the nationalisation of mines and the expropriation of land without compensation at the ANC's policy conference, it said on Tuesday.

"More attention must be given to the hasty implementation of the Freedom Charter so as to bridge the divide of poverty, inequality and unemployment in our society," the ANCYL said in a statement.

"The African National Congress Youth League will be attending the fourth national policy conference... [which] allows for all issues of the organisation to be presented for discussion and debate."

It said nationalisation and land reform were pertinent matters which involved the economy.

ANCYL deputy president Ronald Lamola had come under fire for his comments relating to land ownership. Last week, Lamola told a media briefing in Pretoria that Section 25 of the Constitution should be amended to allow for a change in land reform policy.

"The only solution is expropriation without compensation," he said.

If white South Africans did not hand over land to poor blacks, there could be land invasions like those that took place in Zimbabwe, he warned.

He also reportedly said he could not guarantee the safety of "the Van Tonders and the Van der Merwes on farms".

In Durban, Lamola said: "We need an act as forceful as war to bring it [the land] back to the Africans."

The ANC is holding a four-day national policy conference in Midrand, Johannesburg, attended by about 3 500 delegates.

Earlier on Tuesday, there was no evident seating area for the ANCYL in the main hall at Gallagher Estate, and none of its top officials, including Lamola, were to be seen.

In the statement sent on Tuesday afternoon, the ANCYL said it was firmly behind the resolutions it took at its national congress last year.

"The positions formulated... reaffirmed that economic freedom in our life time must be realised and that at no point in our history will we fail the mandate of young people in the country."

It said the policy conference came at a time when there was a deepening crisis in the economy.

"The ANCYL envisages that the policy conference will successfully resolve on the multiple challenges facing our people first and foremost," it said.

Comments
  • el.torro.509 - 2012-06-26 17:46

    Good luck explaining that to the chinese!

      Christelle - 2012-06-26 17:52

      BRICS in general.....and what use would our $2 billion loan to the IMF help us with this attitude!!

      Christelle - 2012-06-26 18:09

      Leonard, you already know the answer....

      andrew.hendrikse - 2012-06-26 18:10

      The ANCYL sounds like it wants civil war!! They must be insane!!

      azande.futhi - 2012-06-26 18:10

      @Leonard, I feel your sentiment around this issue. My hope is that the ANC will adopt the "2nd Transition" motive and get rid of the incompetent leaders within its ranks. The land redistribution is not a bad move in my view. Just that, the slowness of its implementation is causing panic which will result in very detrimental consequeances, Unfortunately, the ANC is taking these ANCYL reckless remarks lightly.

      ruan.nielsen.3 - 2012-06-26 18:11

      There is only one resolution here,,,give them the minerals so they can pillage the resources and rob from their own people,just give us a homeland like we gave you in the old south africa,,,how about giving the Western Cape independence,,and let all (white,blue,red,purple no matter what colour) who want true freedom from crime and genocide live in peace and harmony,we can survive on tourism.

      azande.futhi - 2012-06-26 18:16

      @Ruan, that is impossible. Its unconstitutional.

      theuns.cordier - 2012-06-26 18:27

      @Jacobus... Be careful the last person who committed treason became a President, hence the reason for the ANC to be here now...

      Scouter - 2012-06-26 18:38

      @el.torro - you are so right! I don't think most have an idea of what the Chinese have in mind for Southern Africa. If the new order think the white man was a harsh master, they ain't seen nothing yet ...... the Chinese are not exactly noted for their philanthropic ways.

      downwiththeANC - 2012-06-26 20:48

      and you know what, after the ANCYL get their way and nationalise the mines and land ,AND after that is a FAIL, they will come and nationalise our houses and cars too as well as KFC and Nando's. They a real big bunch of nincompoops that just want to be handed cash for nothing. What imbecile plonkers.

      downwiththeANC - 2012-06-26 20:50

      maybe the goverment cant build an Island large enough for all the ANCYL members far far out at see and once they are all their with their "economic freedom" we can torpedo it and let it sink. That should solve alot of problems. Your thoughts?

      Rodney - 2012-06-26 21:02

      Possibly try reading this article before posting on the land distribution debate. Very interesting. http://www.sairr.org.za/sairr-today-1/research-and-policy-brief-land-ownership-and-land-reform-in-south-africa-27th-february-2012

      martin.britchford.5 - 2012-06-27 08:40

      i am at the point i dont care what they do, i learned some lessons the hard way, so let them nationalise, the anc, cadre's and the league will pocket every cent, miners will be exploited like aurora mines workers and you will all starve. Im resourceful, i know i can make my way without an economy, so let them eat their cake, when its done and they are dying of hunger, and lack of clean water, no houses, state sponsored violence and a dictatorship i will laugh at the majority

  • Christelle - 2012-06-26 17:50

    Dumb and Dumber II have sacked Jeff Daniels and Jim Carrey. The are replacing them with Lamola and Malema

      hudayfah.newman - 2012-06-26 18:18

      Moonsamy klipkop is playing the girl

      Squeegee - 2012-06-26 18:51

      They cant change policies - it would mean having to learn new big words...

      bongiwe.sethole - 2012-06-27 13:30

      watch the space dear friends, watch the space

  • MuttleyScholtz - 2012-06-26 17:51

    The ANCYL is destructive! It's time for an exorcism to get rid of these demons.

      john.s.stalwart - 2012-06-26 19:05

      I said it before and I wil say it again in suport to ur sugestion,nt only the Youth League needeth exorcism bt the whole ANC,it is demonised to the core so much dat whateva they say or do is an opposite of morality nd self-respect,the work of the devil is to divide,to steal,kil nd destroy as Jesus said,so the dvil is vehemently usin the figures of the government to dvide and destroy Mzansi Africa,we gota pray for these people if we want peace nd morality to rule in our country,it's on us...

  • Allan - 2012-06-26 17:52

    The government already owns half the land in SA sure they can donate a bit to the ANCYL to go and settle on and become economically free

      SaintBruce - 2012-06-26 18:29

      correction - 76% of the land. What are they doing with it? Lamola does not understand business and probably never will. The Government earns [shares in] 50% of the profits of the mining sector without any share of the losses [win win for them]. In Botswana all mining is a joint venture partnership so profits and losses are shared.[can win, can also lose]. The image attached says: Fact Nationalisation Rocks! Ha Ha - I counter that with : Truth Nationalisation has failed everywhere it has been tried so all you are left with is still IN the Rocks! Hearing this lot as a potential investor, I'd run!

      scebberish.umfazi - 2012-06-27 05:19

      Nationalise? Land Redistribution? Wonder if the wealthy Black and other race groups that are not white realise they will loose everything as well. This lot will not only take from whites, they will take from any and all the "haves" to supposedly give to the "have-nots" under the guise of "you conspired with the white man for your wealth". Of course at hand out time the new leaders will be, one for you, 100Million for me, one for you, 100Million for me, one for you.......

      gail.rieck.9 - 2012-06-27 08:12

      These "bods" don't want to cultivate land from scratch, they are after the farms that are already established with all the infrastructure. They want the houses, cars, tractors, cattle and everything that the white farmers worked hard for and built up over the years. These guys are forever shouting about jobs, but don't really want to work. The ancyl should be more concerned with what is happening with th schools and the deliveries of text books if they are truely concerned with the youth - leave the running of the country to the "grown ups"

  • azande.futhi - 2012-06-26 17:53

    ANC has to stand firm in guiding the shortsighted Youth League. Realistic, logical and sane decision has to be taken about this issue. Land Reform is not an easy subject especially in a country like South Africa.

      Ntuthuko M Simelane - 2012-06-26 18:13

      i agree Azande, and ignore those who use derogatory terms,they have their reasons too

      Sannie - 2012-06-27 14:32

      Wait until you are called by a K-word, dragged from the back of the bakkie, trown into the lion's den and etc.

  • Richard - 2012-06-26 17:54

    money for nothing and the chickens for free.....

  • trevor.dean.10 - 2012-06-26 17:55

    Nationalisation and land expropriation will never help the young people of the country. The only thing that will help is EDUCATION and HARD WORK. Until the ANCYL recognises this and starts to pressure the government to sort out the mess in education, and encourages its members to get educated and work hard at it, it is not doing anything for the SA youth.

      azande.futhi - 2012-06-26 18:00

      Your comment is partially correct. Nationalization its is purest form may indeed be detrimental in a short ter., however, if correctly implemented, it may make a huge difference in alleviating poverty.

      Christelle - 2012-06-26 18:17

      Azande, I tend to agree with you. And please do not shoot me. Read about the incredible change over a relatively short period in Singapore where they highly developed capitalistic mixed economy. Here is a brilliant explanation of their economy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Singapore Note the information on low levels of corruption, low taxes, stable prices etc.

      Aaron - 2012-06-26 18:45

      christelle - You cannot even begin to compare Singapore's economy to ours. Singapore has precisely zero mineral resources and hence absolutely no mining sector. Being basically a city-state, it has zero farmland and hence no agricultural sector. The citizenry is highly educated and their core business is shipping, oil refinery and electronics. There is no possible economic comparison to South Africa.

      tobydt - 2012-06-26 20:45

      victor - Perhaps if you stopped alienating farmers, they would be more willing to help. You are the ones making enemies of them. First you sing songs about shooting me, now you want my help? F*** off :P

      downwiththeANC - 2012-06-26 20:52

      and victor has resisted getting an education so he will understand why nationalisation wont work.

      downwiththeANC - 2012-06-26 20:53

      I agree with trev2. Education brings "true" economic freedom, not handouts.

      gail.rieck.9 - 2012-06-27 08:14

      Why work when you can get what you want for free????

      fanievanzyl22 - 2012-06-27 10:42

      this is a load of bull. ANCYL wants to live of others fortune instead of creating their own. Hard work and proper education is what they need. Proper education can't stand alone in that sentence. The ANC can't even govern the country properly yet the ANCYL want them to put more hay on their fork and run all the mineral resources as well? Sounds more like a recipe for disater and failure...

  • greywolve - 2012-06-26 17:58

    I think we need some constructive solutions to this problem. There has been enough judgement and name calling. Each citizen of this country has equal right to all the countries resources, the race card seriously needs to be forgotten about. Here is one such solution: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vfuCPFb8wk Perhaps if we all came up with solutions instead of judgements things would actually move in a positive direction.

  • glyn.morgan.96 - 2012-06-26 18:03

    Fools! Out of step with the world. Vote DA, IT IS IN STEP WITH THE WORLD.

      azande.futhi - 2012-06-26 18:05

      Will DA support land redistribution?

      Billy - 2012-06-26 18:10

      why dont you ask them?

      indianajohn - 2012-06-27 09:42

      Azande, no, the DA does not support lazy morons with no ambition. Why should they?

      fanievanzyl22 - 2012-06-27 10:47

      No but they stand a better chance to provide you with a proper education. The DA will not give handouts but create chances to improve yourself.

  • charl.malan.12 - 2012-06-26 18:09

    I think the lambs of the youth league needs to be silenced, they are making too much noise!

  • Sibusiso - 2012-06-26 18:09

    Fellow white South Africans stop worrying yourselves, you know that your businesses or land are not stolen or you didn't get them through the help of the oppressive crazy ex-government. No land grabs or nationalisation will happen, you will die from heart attack. In the US war and terrorism are used to campaign for elections, in S.A racial tension is used to put the ANC in power. Oh and please stop being scared by crazy black South Africans that tell you that you are not African, your great grand parents were born here, you are also indigenous people of S.A.\r\nHaving said that; those that know they took land illegally should give the rightful owners of the land their land back, but ofcos you should get compensated for the investment and hardwork you put in.

      Christelle - 2012-06-26 18:26

      You want to run for president:-) I think you might just get support from the minority groups:-)

      patrick.mampane - 2012-06-26 19:44

      BUAHAHAHAHHA!!! sorry, i just had to laugh.

      oistar.tutu - 2012-06-26 19:51

      @ patrick. Yes your laugh illustrates that you have an idea that what Sibusiso has to say is more sensible than what you have been spun

  • Sibusiso - 2012-06-26 18:09

    Fellow white South Africans stop worrying yourselves, you know that your businesses or land are not stolen or you didn't get them through the help of the oppressive crazy ex-government. No land grabs or nationalisation will happen, you will die from heart attack. In the US war and terrorism are used to campaign for elections, in S.A racial tension is used to put the ANC in power. Oh and please stop being scared by crazy black South Africans that tell you that you are not African, your great grand parents were born here, you are also indigenous people of S.A.\r\nHaving said that; those that know they took land illegally should give the rightful owners of the land their land back, but ofcos you should get compensated for the investment and hardwork you put in.

      downwiththeANC - 2012-06-26 20:54

      Thanks Sibusiso , someone with brains is speaking

      sandra.j.rennie - 2012-06-27 13:37

      Sibusiso, most of us never worry about land grabs, nationalisation etc, because from the last 18 years experience I for one have noticed that anything that relates to Government, does not and has not worked. Take a look at the NON SERVICES at all the Departments, namely Municipalities, roads, education, to name a few. It's never gonna happen, not in your lifetime and not in mine so the poor little sods at ANCYL should actually shut up because they make themselves look more stupid than they are !

  • Tony - 2012-06-26 18:11

    OK - screw up the mines, kick the white farmers off productive land, minimaize foreign exchange, fewer and fewer white employers because of BEE, now food prices go up, jobs go down - watcha gonna do now, invaders from the North?

  • grace.andtruth.77 - 2012-06-26 18:12

    Geez.... You guys can't even keep your gardens neat and tidy how the hell are you going to look after a farm????

      grace.andtruth.77 - 2012-06-26 18:33

      And you only need to look at the state of their skeletal disease riddled chained up dogs in the yard to imagine what our future meat will look like... YUK!!

  • hudayfah.newman - 2012-06-26 18:25

    Since Malema has been expelled, the ancyl has not been given the attention they used to enjoy. I think this incessant ramblings are their attempts at trying to get in the spotlight again

  • mlatha.sigidi - 2012-06-26 18:28

    Expropiation of land without compensation as proposed by ANCYL will lead to the exodus of people to neighbouring countries as it has happened in Zimbwambwe due to femine

      mralekholela - 2012-06-26 18:38

      enough is enough africans must get wat belongs to them we wont buy the land they did not buy.

      Ntuthuko M Simelane - 2012-06-26 18:46

      mrarekholela,if you woke up with a fàrm tomorrow,what will you do first? how is you credit vetting as we speak?

      grace.andtruth.77 - 2012-06-26 18:58

      The majority of farmers paid for their land and still have massive bond repayments. How do you explain that? They BOUGHT it!!! Of which the government has had FAT transfer duties. If you pay for something, how do you explain it as 'stolen'?

      Aaron - 2012-06-26 19:34

      While I agree with you that it will lead to famine, to which neighbouring countries will their be an exodus, since most of them have already also been destroyed by bad leadership?

      WysJouMys - 2012-06-27 13:10

      @ mralekholela... you can have the farms back in the way we found it- with NOTHING on it. After I burn it to the ground, including the housing I built for the farm workers, you can have it back with pleasure!

  • mkgatla3 - 2012-06-26 18:32

    This is serious guyz,our economy shall be shared....i like this! I remember the leninist and maxist,atleast south africa is going somewhere! Nothing is forever! Viva economic freedom...Viva

      grace.andtruth.77 - 2012-06-26 18:36

      The repetition of the word 'VIVA' in not classed as a farming or mining skill... Or any skill for that matter

      mkgatla3 - 2012-06-26 18:48

      It isnt durch either....is soud african....

      Aaron - 2012-06-26 19:21

      Sadly Leninism (and Marxism) will bring you the exact opposite of economic freedom, but, unfortunately, it seems the only way that you will learn this is if you spend a couple of generations and the nations wealth, re-visiting the same experiment that repeatedly failed across the whole world 25 years ago.

      hannes.vanwyk.9 - 2012-06-26 19:52

      Do you think the Russians and East Germans were tired of being wealthy, that's why they changed to capitalism? Don't think I have ever met a wealthy Russian. Good luck with your dreams comrade.

      Hermann - 2012-06-26 20:15

      Mgatla if you want to be economically free start working my man, start working.

      hannes.vanwyk.9 - 2012-06-26 20:43

      Ps. Viva is Latin you plonker.

      scebberish.umfazi - 2012-06-27 05:13

      Hannes, he means Vaxhaul Viva, like his dad used to have.

  • mkgatla3 - 2012-06-26 18:32

    This is serious guyz,our economy shall be shared....i like this! I remember the leninist and maxist,atleast south africa is going somewhere! Nothing is forever! Viva economic freedom...Viva

      Ntuthuko M Simelane - 2012-06-26 18:35

      shut up mfethu if you dont know what to say, some of us own property,businesses and have kids,this turmoil will shatter the economy and have our black asses hungry,can you tell me how many metres are in a hector?

      mkgatla3 - 2012-06-26 18:45

      Look buddy dont make your problem our problems,if u are one of imperialists u better get life,we cant sacrifice millions of hecters for your business sake.......imagine one family owning 50000 sq meters alone,this is nonsence.......a hecter=10000 sq m stupid

      gieljam.gomtor - 2012-06-26 19:00

      SeGatla , The majority of you cant farm commercially for reasons unknown to us because the only one blade plough that was used when we came here was "The spear"

      mralekholela - 2012-06-26 19:00

      thats right bra, we need to have share in our mother land. They like it or not pple shall share.

      angelique.lewies - 2012-06-26 20:37

      jou simpel idioot! South Africa is going NO where... I agree with Ntuthuko shut up! Viva idiocracy ViVa! some people in SA work for what they want and what they own. if you want land and to be a part of the economy get a job and make a contribution

      downwiththeANC - 2012-06-26 21:02

      mkgatla3 googled "how many square metres in a hector" . I am sure he has googled "how many brain cells in my brain" too, only to discover "google did not find what you were looking for"

  • Cassandra Eileen Olivier - 2012-06-26 18:34

    So where is all the people going to go when there is no food and no jobs like in Zim. Are we all going to go in the Sea?

      Bulls - 2012-06-26 19:08

      Nature will sort itself out like it does to the millions out there, what you are worried of is to save your fat r's.

  • gieljam.gomtor - 2012-06-26 18:38

    To think that the youth is soon going to rule is mind boggling most a bunch of mislead ill informed juveniles who think you get somewhere by just taking from others can only end up in chaos.

      Barend - 2012-06-26 18:42

      You speak the truth my friend. It scares the sh_t out of me to be honest.

  • veritas.odium.paret - 2012-06-26 18:39

    You'd think that, being an African country, we have plenty of examples of what NOT to do. And yet some idiots want us to follow the same trends that tore so many promising countries apart. I still think the 'willing buyer, willing seller' option is the best way forward for land; if someone pays for it, then they should be able to value it and like the previous owner did. And as for Nationalisation of mines, it'll only put more wealth near politians and we all know that's exactly what has fueled many conflicts in Africa with groups fighting to control the government and hence all that wealth.

      Aaron - 2012-06-26 19:24

      The best option is education. From a young age. There is no point in wasting time on anything else. A good education will naturally solve everything else with time.

  • Koos - 2012-06-26 18:43

    Not WON'T but CAN'T. Anyone else notice the YL sizes these days? Damn they all got fat!

  • darren.peach - 2012-06-26 18:44

    ANCYL draws parallels to the Nazi party. The rhetoric that these radicals are using will increase hate crime towards the White Minority and has in fact lead to the murder of many Farmers in SA. Many people seem oblivious to this as they are wrapped in their own lives and will only notice when it affects them personally. I have no problem with the apreading of wealth across the board in our country but when threats are made by a Majority against a Minority I start to worry. I am concerned enough to think Genocide is on the table.........It may sound paranoid but reading this relentless hate mongering against us does affect my views. The fact of the matter is change needs to happen and too many South Africans are living below the poverty line but I hope it can be done in a peacefull manner.

  • Jannie - 2012-06-26 18:45

    To all ANC members, think about this for a moment, since South-Africa has started trading with China somewhere in 1996 we’ve had major job losses in the textile/manufacturing industry (http://www.naledi.org.za/index.php?option=com_rokdownloads&view=file&task=download&id=101%3Asactwujobsstrike&Itemid=267 ) and in 2011 Q1 and Q2 there was more than 100 000 jobs lost in the manufacturing and mining industry. If this government want a solution to the unemployment here is a suggestion don’t import crap from countries when we have skilled workers that can manufacture better quality goods. Government already owns a lot of farms (http://www.landbou.com/nuus/regering-het-agenda-met-grond-abram) but want’s keep people most people oppressed and uneducated as that is where their voter base is. Also as a white African I am totally appalled by the lack of accountability toward corrupt people in the ANC, a couple of years ago the president of the land bank stole over R100 million that was supposed to have gone to buying land for the poor, and that is also why willing buyer willing seller failed to corrupt cadre deployment. For those interested in reading the document being discussed at this circus (www.anc.org.za/docs/pol/2012/landpolicyproposals_june2012v.pdf) So there you have my 2 cents worth.

      Aaron - 2012-06-26 19:27

      The biggest reason why we end up importing stuff from China is because local labour is expensive, over-regulated and completely controlled by too-powerful labour unions. If the ANC was even mildly serious about increasing employment, then it should withdraw union protection, get rid of minimum wages and half of the labour act.

  • gieljam.gomtor - 2012-06-26 18:45

    The uneducated thinking and demands can only be laid at the roots of a culture which did not develop over the centuries and is primitive in most of today's standard's. eg. The jungle way of the strongest( read masses) ,definitely not the most civilized)takes all.

      Ntuthuko M Simelane - 2012-06-26 18:49

      gomtor,that is a racial remark and can get you into trouble,its uncalled for, no one will take anything from anyone,it wont happen,just take a chill pill,and i took offense in the depth of your text,but we come from different backrounds and belive in various things.

      Aaron - 2012-06-26 19:28

      Well, it may be offensive and racially motivated, but it happens to be true.

  • Tian Reyneke - 2012-06-26 18:45

    If they do it we will leave for exp if we leave our company will close down which predominantly employes african people 50 african families will go hungry.....do the maths they are making uneducated comments which will eventually lead to another zim

      mkgatla3 - 2012-06-26 18:51

      That wont be for forever! We have more resouces in mzansi ,Our economy can recover

  • JohnnoBfree - 2012-06-26 18:48

    Just wondering how long it will take for 50 000 000 million people to starve to death? Hope it does not take to too long.

      mkgatla3 - 2012-06-26 18:50

      That cannot happen in south africa,unless on your dreams...

      Ntuthuko M Simelane - 2012-06-26 18:50

      why would you wish for such an evil thing?

      Irene - 2012-06-26 18:57

      Ntuthuko ~ Probably for the same evil reason as blacks wanting land grabs and stealing what they haven't worked for. Just as evil, if not worse.

      Aaron - 2012-06-26 19:12

      "That cannot happen in south africa,unless on your dreams..." Because, "on your dreams", nationalisation has worked out so well on the rest of the continent, and there has never been any famine in Africa as a result of idiotic policy, has there?

      konanani.rachicoper - 2012-06-27 07:55

      The faster you leave,the faster it happens.

      aristar.aristary - 2012-06-27 13:05

      @mkgatla3: It is just a matter of time before your wonderful Zuma with his dicknity and his crappy corrupt government destroys South Africa, just as Kaunda, Buggame, Idiot Amin, Gedorfame, Kenyattam etc, did to all the rest of Africa. By then all us whiteys would have picked up lives and left to your own devices of hell and corruption!

      aristar.aristary - 2012-06-27 13:08

      @konanani.rachicoper - give me a plane ticket and a million rand and I will depart this place I called home for all my life. I am tired of living in fear and I think the rest of us reasonable people (irrespective of race colour or creed) feel the same.

  • aristar.aristary - 2012-06-26 18:49

    stupid is as stupid does.

  • julio.sanfona - 2012-06-26 18:52

    Why doesn't the ANVYL come up some new ideas that might work and that have been tested and tried elswhere with some success? Why do they insist on policies that have been used by some other uninformed "revolutionaries" which have failed dismally. Are there any smart leaders in the ANCYL? obviously not.

      mkgatla3 - 2012-06-26 18:58

      Stereotype minded BLACK people wont understand,but ask whites econimists who are positive they explain to u,there will be no problem,i support yourth leaque..

      mkgatla3 - 2012-06-26 18:58

      Stereotype minded BLACK people wont understand,but ask whites econimists who are positive they explain to u,there will be no problem,i support yourth leaque..

      Aaron - 2012-06-26 19:09

      Seriously - "whites econimists who are positive they explain to u,there will be no problem"?? If you're trying to say that white economists believe that there will be no problem with nationalisation, I think the only white economist who might be in agreement would be Karl Marx, and both him and his ideologies are long dead.

  • Bulls - 2012-06-26 18:58

    Exactly what we needed all along, thanx to the great Malema, he will always be remembered for his bravery and even though he was greedy but his preaches are soon to become true. What the ANC needed all along, was the fear of losing power. The side-lining of Malema created that most needed force of losing the grip, now the ANC will make sure that they deliver "without the leadership of Zuma though" the mines will be made to show their involvement in the service delivery by allowing them only 40% access to it's wealth..ha!ha!ha!ha!...I wonder why haven't we heard from the CEO's of our mines regarding this issue of our mines being nationalised. The only halitosis comes from the DA and the news 24 cowards.... Mangaung...big positive turn-over for the South African future. THANK YOU MR MALEMA, YOU HAVE JUST EARNED YOURSELF AN EVERLASTING NAME IN THE HISTORY BOOKS OF BLACKS HEROES.

      grace.andtruth.77 - 2012-06-26 19:04

      *vomit*

      Aaron - 2012-06-26 19:07

      What does this mean - "the mines will be made to show their involvement in the service delivery by allowing them only 40% access to it's wealth"? By taking away 60% of the mines profits they will be shown their involvement in service delivery? This makes no sense. Do you not understand that by doing this far more people will end up jobless?

      patrick.saunders123 - 2012-06-26 19:11

      i see the AIDS has started to rot your brain. just a matter of time before you peg off.

  • johnnie.vercuil - 2012-06-26 18:59

    The time has definitely come for this ANC government to get rid of Lamola. He is nothing but a man that does not think, and when he does it is not for the benefit of the country, but only to get his name in the paper.

  • Aaron - 2012-06-26 19:00

    Nationalisation can only happen two ways - with or without compensation. Government does not have trillions of dollars to pay foreign investors for their mining interests which leaves only the route without compensation. The moment government announces plans to expropriate the mining sector, at least the following will occur: 1. Within the same day of the announcement the JSE will collapse as the entire international investment community dumps it's holdings. This will wipe out the majority of people's pension funds (the real owners of the economy) instantly. 2. In the following week most multinationals will announce their plans to wind down their operations in South Africa resulting in large scale lay offs in all sectors. 3. Foreign nations will reciprocate by seizing South African assets abroad, freezing accounts, applying trade barriers and probably implementing trade sanctions. 4. By the end of the first month the Rand will have lost at least 90% of its value and inflation will be heading towards triple figures (i.e. +100%). It is predicted that this will cause mass unrest and probably a populist revolt which could only be contained by extreme military means.

      Hadebe - 2012-06-26 19:28

      We d rather have that than what we have now.

      Bulls - 2012-06-26 19:29

      You forgot to add...AND life will begin from scratch because we will all live in shacks..I love equality...

      Hadebe - 2012-06-26 19:30

      We d rather have that than what we have now.

      hannes.vanwyk.9 - 2012-06-26 19:36

      @ hadebe - typical thinking an under achiever. You will rather pull someone down than try and better yourself.

      Aaron - 2012-06-26 19:40

      Hadebe, you'd rather not have any prospect of a job at all, hyperinflation and famine? Will you still be saying that when you are eating sand? Why would you think that South Africa would actually be better after the economy has completely collapsed? Is it purely out of spite to see white people suffer? If so, you'll probably be quite disappointed because they tend to actually be quite a resilient lot.

      Hadebe - 2012-06-26 20:12

      Who should suffer? Blacks only, now come on.

      angelique.lewies - 2012-06-26 21:53

      yeAH hadebe its clear that you are suffering.... tv in the background, internet access.... suffering sucks. There is alot of suffering in the world (white and black) most people suffer because it is easier to demand then to work. Unfortanetly this is not always the case but white people also struggle to get jobs (and we don't even have BEE on our side). So stop making stupid comments okay? nobody deserves to suffer!

      grant.hide - 2012-06-26 22:11

      @Haddebe. Self inflicted problems it seems to me you have. If you applied for a job, you would get it over any other person. You have it easy, not so for the rest of us. Not only that, The Prisons in SA will never be able to hold all us Like minded we can work together people. Hope you get what you own stolen from you, something you actually worked hard for, that way you can understand first hand what you proposing to millions of honest friendly hard working and peaceful people that have actually brought change to many of you who have joined us already and disagree with you. Get a job, get empowered.

  • barend.wasserman - 2012-06-26 19:16

    Idiots...

  • Bulls - 2012-06-26 19:36

    The ruling party was voted by the majority of the citizens, now the citizens needs should be met...who opposes must deal with it or become the majority...that is a fair play. I am not scared to lose everything that I have now, why? because I know I worked for it, I did not inherit stolen goods and wealth from my father....AND I CAN WORK MY WAY UP AGAIN AFTER A LOSS. South Africa let's start from scratch all of us.NATIONALISE THE MINES I SAY.

      Hadebe - 2012-06-26 20:00

      Those dumbnuts are so scared for any change, they know very well that they have what they have coz the aparthetic regime made it possible for them to loot as they wanted. Shame on them, i have no pity or feelings for these greedy maggots.

      angelique.lewies - 2012-06-26 22:01

      I feel sorry for you two guys... really sorry. I read all the comments and some of the people make valid educated comments and then theres you two idiots...

  • luca.delbianco.3 - 2012-06-26 19:40

    @Scouter,Once I watched a documentary filmed in Angola which was about Chinese investments and labour practices in that country.It was quiet alarming.

      Scouter - 2012-06-26 20:35

      Yup, they have been busy recolonizing Africa for a number of years now mostly through 'liberation struggle debts' owed to them. Zim is a good example of this - guess who has all the mineral rights now and they are setting up agriculturally as well. SA represents even richer pickings .... and they want the sea route/ports for their new aircraft carriers.

  • Mike Peach Purchase - 2012-06-26 19:41

    Why dont they just do it tomorrow what are they waiting for,if not they are bulldusting themselves bunch of rectums.

  • Mike Peach Purchase - 2012-06-26 19:46

    That agent should be called hadeda its meant to fly but craps itself when it takes off making a hellova noise.

  • mbuso.tholly - 2012-06-26 19:52

    diz friendz of youth league indeed insane hw cn u wear a t-shirts which says "nationalisation rocks"dey must mention 10 countries where it rocking or else keep and let da ANC gives us direction to economic freedom.dey r annoying me now epsecially dis Lamola guy

  • Mike Peach Purchase - 2012-06-26 19:53

    Aaron ignore the fool he must have an unworthy brain.All i can say is a big mouth doesnt intimidate me these okes are all just agents trying to pee people off,laugh them off the world is watching them.

  • mkgatla3 - 2012-06-26 19:54

    Whether u like it or hate it! I say viva to economic freedom....Obvious the people who benefit from capitalism wil always say the bad side of nationalization...

      mbuso.tholly - 2012-06-26 20:24

      economic freedom is nt a nationalisation route only.dey r other strategise we may use bt nationalisation has failed in most countries ecxept venezuela,cuba,libya dat i knw of

  • mkgatla3 - 2012-06-26 19:56

    The current economic system have a bad advantage to black majority,and obviours nationalisation wil be a disadvantage to whites and afrikaaners....!

      Graeme Grim Adams - 2012-06-26 20:06

      How does it benefit black people?

      konanani.rachicoper - 2012-06-27 07:51

      David why sufer when you got beautiful england?

  • michael.worgbah - 2012-06-26 20:10

    ancyl must not compare south africa to zimbabwe just look at zimbabwe economy today

  • Hermann - 2012-06-26 20:12

    Youth league - bloody bunch of uneducated kids trying to run a country.

  • jacob.molife - 2012-06-26 20:28

    @mokgatla 03 you'r secret agent of anarchy. Obviously if uv killed n robbed an old granny u'll advocate exppropriation.

  • Hermann - 2012-06-26 20:31

    Oh, do I love the comments from the side of the half educated on this item.

      jacob.molife - 2012-06-26 20:48

      Voetsek HermmanH !!!!

  • Mike Peach Purchase - 2012-06-26 20:34

    Ah cmon people dont let these okes get to you.If they do forcefully attempt to take over farms etc just burn everything to the ground as you now have nothing to lose.A good friend of mine reckons he would do it slap.

      Bheki Nas - 2012-06-26 21:08

      @t least i gat a white fellow huz uneducated..well dne

      WysJouMys - 2012-06-27 13:22

      I concur. Burn it!

  • Bheki Nas - 2012-06-26 21:05

    70 percent of south african whites who ran to australia are now back in south africa...co,.operate o else,.we gna c u in china beggin for food..

      tobydt - 2012-06-27 06:34

      Cooperate or you will be begging the west for food.

  • Mike Peach Purchase - 2012-06-26 21:30

    ah hell not another one plz wake up sober tomorrow damn big mouth.

  • Mike Peach Purchase - 2012-06-26 21:34

    Hehehe! do you know how the world operates and what have you ever designed,perfected and managed properly humba uyo lala mfowethu.

  • grant.hide - 2012-06-26 22:17

    SMART versus STUPID, who's gonna win?