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Act on submarine damage, FF Plus urges

2012-08-13 19:12

Johannesburg - Those responsible for the damage caused to the submarine SAS Queen Modjadji should face disciplinary action, the Freedom Front Plus said on Monday.

"The submarine SAS Queen Modjadji's accident with the seabed speaks of negligence and poor training," Freedom Front Plus defence spokesperson Pieter Groenewald said in a statement.

"The commanding officer of the submarine should take the responsibility and disciplinary steps should be instituted."

The SABC reported on Sunday that a navy board of inquiry had been convened to probe the accident, in which the outer hull of the submarine was damaged when it hit the seabed between Port Elizabeth and Durban last week.

Groenewald said there were existing safety measures and that instrumentation should have averted the mishap.

"To allege that an investigation has to be instituted into safety measures is to mislead the public [that] this was the problem.

"Drastic action should be taken against the responsible person," he said.

Comments
  • Swapie - 2012-08-13 19:20

    Crazy. Our navy, army, police, all going down the drain because of incompetence.

      fussed.anderson - 2012-08-13 19:34

      Going underground again.//////??????

      squeegee.pilot - 2012-08-13 20:08

      This is what happens when you let them use the sub as a taxi...

      claudia.meads - 2012-08-13 20:43

      Mmmm... SUB-standard, if only it ended there.., http://www.fin24.com/Economy/Labour-productivity-hits-46-year-low-20120813

      fussed.anderson - 2012-08-14 07:05

      Please understand, THIS IS NOT A 4x4

  • johnnie.walker.7503314 - 2012-08-13 19:33

    How do you sink a South African Navy ship? Put it in water...

      sheik.mohammad.378 - 2012-08-13 20:43

      They were only testing if the sub was water tight.............tick, passed.

      grantdutoit - 2012-08-14 00:56

      Probably best if they do their testing in dry dock

  • jimi.harrison.7 - 2012-08-13 19:35

    Ja nee! Never happened in all the years prior 1994!!!

      johnnie.walker.7503314 - 2012-08-13 19:37

      What about the SAS Pres Kruger that collided with the SAS Tafelberg - 16 sailors dead?

      john.barbarian.9 - 2012-08-13 21:46

      @Karl Van Rooyen We are lucky that Fire Control Officer Wife was not on board. Probably they will shoot at some cargo ship for fun.....

  • busani.mabunda - 2012-08-13 19:36

    Driving the submarine like a taxi.

  • boltonbarry - 2012-08-13 19:40

    The South African navy hitting sea-rock-bottom

  • kingkongVB - 2012-08-13 19:41

    Which makes you ask why South Africa has got a submarine? For the love off... it beggars belief

      Warwick - 2012-08-14 09:19

      So they (ANC) bought 3 subs and they are all stuffed. Eish. They cant even drive a taxi looking out the fron windscreen with out killing passengers, imagine them in a sub with no windows. Depth perception in its moer.

  • fanie.gerber1972 - 2012-08-13 20:00

    Okeh - 2 Subs stuffed up

  • IcemanGP - 2012-08-13 20:35

    And this does not include the 37 odd MILLION per year to keep these ill named ships operational. Your tax monies well spent Joe Citizen.

      boltonbarry - 2012-08-13 21:04

      Does that price excllude the batteries that they never got :-) `````

      IcemanGP - 2012-08-14 08:54

      The SAS Manthatisi, the first of the country's submarines acquired in the multibillion-rand arms deal, has been in the dry dock since 2007 after a series of mishaps, including crashing into a quay and damaging her steering mechanism.\r\nThen a power cable was incorrectly plugged into her shore power-supply system, causing damage. The vessel's propulsion batteries, which cost R35-million, are being replaced.

  • sheik.mohammad.378 - 2012-08-13 20:51

    To South Africa's enemies who wish to sink our Navy. Sit back and wait.... they'll sink themselves.

  • rcgreeff - 2012-08-13 20:51

    What do we need submarines for. They are a waste of money and serve NO useful purpose.

      boltonbarry - 2012-08-13 21:14

      If they are applied in the fight against piracy then yes they serve a purpose

      Warwick - 2012-08-14 09:21

      Especially when they are all smashed and sitting in dry dock.

  • ivan.plooy - 2012-08-13 20:52

    These toys are so cheap ........ buy a few more and have another DEBACLE about who gets what "commission" - was this intentional?? LOL at these clowns!!

  • Vince.York - 2012-08-13 21:30

    The two or three power turbines each costing about R3bill destroyed by equally negligence never raised a murmur, but rather paved the way for a golden path to crony cadre'ism promotions, AND in any event SA can afford to bandy about little spatches of ZARbillions without blinking an eyelid. There is PLENTY MORE where all the rest came from in a never ending story and it's just money neh? NXA

  • Vince.York - 2012-08-13 21:32

    PS it was announced on radio this afternoon, that 61% of youth are upbeat and positive about SA's economy and their prospects???????? I wonder if the census was taken across a mere 500 persons based in Nkandla.

  • michil.chegwidden - 2012-08-13 21:41

    Skipper was a ex TAXI driver

  • sarel.brits - 2012-08-14 06:53

    HiBo this one she`s a submarine not a quantum eeeesh! you mampara you can't just park it anywhere. Or should we say Keep calm and Carry On

  • breinlekkasie.dodelikegif - 2012-08-14 07:08

    If it was any other country the commanding officer would be out of a job!

  • andrew.mackie.90 - 2012-08-14 07:37

    Well another of our submarines out of order purchased under the notorious arms deal. Wonder how long it will be before this one will be in service again.

      spookhuis - 2012-08-14 08:04

      It may take some time.....they didn't buy the workshop manual.

  • kseyffert - 2012-08-14 08:32

    With out a doubt! Who carried the can for PK. The skipper who was asleep offshift. What happened to the guy at the helm, reprimand, today he commands his own ship. The skipper has always and will always bear final resposibility. He/She must answer for this.

  • IcemanGP - 2012-08-14 08:54

    The SAS Manthatisi, the first of the country's submarines acquired in the multibillion-rand arms deal, has been in the dry dock since 2007 after a series of mishaps, including crashing into a quay and damaging her steering mechanism.\r\nThen a power cable was incorrectly plugged into her shore power-supply system, causing damage. The vessel's propulsion batteries, which cost R35-million, are being replaced.

  • Warwick - 2012-08-14 09:16

    Musy have been a lack of depth perception.

  • nettie.potgieter.5 - 2012-08-14 16:05

    I can not see the problem here. Zuma could alway borrow Bobgabi's Zim submarine as they are not using it now. It is not raining season in Zim at this time.

  • vivian.harris.73 - 2012-08-14 17:32

    All 3 our Subs are laying in the dry dock. Cost the tax payer billions. And yet they promote the skipper and blame poor training. They have no clue at all. They should get training abroad and will only pass because they know what they doing not for their skin colour.

  • dave.kofang - 2012-08-15 07:20

    People must get their facts right before they comment.A submarine is a highly technical vessel.Everyone onboard a sub is an artisan.Officers r engineers.So by questioning the crew's competence shows a lack of knowledge from all people commenting.But anyway,carry on moaning because it has become a national past time.

  • dave.kofang - 2012-08-15 07:20

    People must get their facts right before they comment.A submarine is a highly technical vessel.Everyone onboard a sub is an artisan.Officers r engineers.So by questioning the crew's competence shows a lack of knowledge from all people commenting.But anyway,carry on moaning because it has become a national past time.

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