Battle lines drawn in bid to lead ANC

2011-06-14 15:13

Johannesburg - Julius Malema and the ANC Youth League appear to have embarked on a campaign to limit President Jacob Zuma to one term as leader of the ruling party, union leaders say.

The anti-Zuma group is supported by wealthy members of the ANC and fronted by Malema, whose calls for farm seizures without compensation and the nationalisation of mines.

Malema, who will be re-elected youth leader later this week, helped Zuma rise to power in 2007 but his demands for sweeping policy shifts and racist remarks towards the white minority have put him at odds with the president.

"If they succeed in this campaign, the ANC as we have known it will be history," The Sunday Times quoted Cosatu's secretary general Zwelinzima Vavi as writing in a union document.

‘Banana republic’

"Our country we love so much will go straight down the direction of a banana republic. The current challenge of corruption will be institutionalised with a risk that the very country will be sold to the highest bidder."

The youth league is considered kingmakers in the ANC and has been used in the past by senior members to drive policy changes and launch leadership races.

While alliance members appear to back Zuma, his supporters fear the split may jeopardise his chances when the party holds its leadership election next year - and by implication another term as president of the country.

Analysts say Malema has presidential ambitions, and replacing Zuma is a step towards ensuring his policy demands materialise. A change in leadership would allow his supporters to exploit lucrative government deals.

Powerful support

"Malema is not getting what he expects from Zuma. Some very powerful and rich people in the ANC and the country support him," an ANC member who did not want to be named told Reuters.

"If Zuma is out of the way, they can benefit more from government deals."

Investors are concerned by what appears to be rising levels of corruption and opportunism by senior ANC officials.

"I think this rent-seeking and patronage culture is of a level of concern that we haven't seen before," said Anne Fruhauf, southern Africa analyst at Eurasia Group in London.

She said there were some reservations about Zuma's government with many investors taking different views.

Zuma's supporters blame Malema

Zuma's supporters blame Malema's antagonistic comments towards minorities - including repeated singing of an apartheid-era song that advocates shooting white farmers, and calling the white leader of the opposition party a "monkey" - for a drop in support in May's local government elections.

Support for the ANC fell five percentage points in the elections from 67% in 2006, with a surge in support for the main opposition DA who promised better basic services.

Blade Nzimande, secretary general of the South African Communist Party and higher education minister in Zuma's cabinet said Malema's populist rhetoric divided the nation and was becoming a threat to democracy.

"This demagogy constitutes the greatest threat not just to our electoral performance but also to our hard-won democratic achievements," he said.

  • marguerite - 2011-06-14 15:21

    I have a better idea.. Malema should just form his own party so the ANC and the rest of us can get on with live and Malema can continue to live in his own fantasy world. Better yet.. he should go take over Zimbabwe!!!

      TypicalDarkie - 2011-06-14 16:15

      talk about lose-lose situation, Malema wins and Zuma is ousted we still stuck with Malema, Zuma gets one over Malema and we stuck Zuma...

      realist03 - 2011-06-14 16:53

      Fact,,,malema will take over,its inevitable,,the cp and other factions will revolt against malema,he will crush them and beat them into submission,,in th emean time malemas henchman will be evicting all whites from farms,,this is when all white and those who want true democracy and freedom will have to move to the western cape,as they want to drive us to the sea where we came from,its been their policy since the 70s,,except that swhere we will take our final stand and make the cape independent,,the international community will make sure this happens to avoid mass refugees flooding holland and the UK,so what can i say ,arm yourselves and start moving south people,,the clock is ticking faster than imagined.good luck and be safe. amazing how quickly this story wa staken off news 24

      BoB - 2011-06-14 18:22

      I for one would support the ouster of Zuma for someone with balls.Remember Zuma created the devil Malema to oust Mbeki but now he can`t reign on the devil he created.The rot will continue unabetted under Zuma`s leadership.

      robincasino - 2011-06-15 08:32

      Better the devil you know than the devil you don't... - 2011-06-15 10:15

      realist03.... You have it wrong... Or that is how I see things. South Africa as we know it is for nobody else but those stupid enough to vote for the ANC criminals. You think SA Zim is far? It is not... And do you really think they will allow the western cape to be excluded from their view... It has started... South Africa will be taken by the ANC... (Zuma said One vote and exclude local government) Cheers South Africa... I am out... F^(*& the ANC that made our country one with the highest crime rate, biggest corrupt government... I will think of you while I sit at my campfire in another country.... I will rather stay as an foreigner in another country than to stay and see how my children are stained with the ANC IQ....

      Looking@SA - 2011-06-15 11:56

      Have been reading the comments about Malema for about a year now. He's called stupid, Juliass, and woodshop drop out. He is definitely not stupid! His plan is, and this is why he always talks about the struggle and sings struggle songs, to lead a new revolution. He understands one absolute constant about revolutionaries, they never have to show that they can lead, they only have to convince the people that those who are currently leading aren't doing their job. Here the job that they aren't doing is bringing opportunity, services, and jobs to young black South Africans which by the way are becoming the majority group in South Africa. Forget about black/white/colored/Indian. Malema understands that the rising tide of young black unemployed South Africans are the new revolutionaries. All he has to do to get their support is to convince them that they are unemployed (not hard they are) that the current government isn't doing anything for them (with their continued unemployment and many being born in informal settlements that's not hard to do) then he will have their support. He sings the "Shoot the Boer" in order to keep the focus on remembering Apartheid so that those who never experienced it will never look to the DA for solutions. Julius stupid...if you believe that you are foolish. This is well planned and the plan is being executed. To stop him you need to stop laughing at him and educate the country to the dangers of his policies.

      Looking@SA - 2011-06-15 12:00

      From previous post. Engage him in real policy debate, treat him like a real political leader. You can bet foreign investors see him as a real leader in SA. Stop laughing at him and calling him names discredit his policies. Make him have to defend everything from a policy standpoint. Treat every word that comes out of his mouth as the utterance of a political candidate for the presidency. Don't let him don the mantle of revolutionary make him face the reality of political leader. This is the only way that I can see to stop the disaster that he would visit on South Africa and it would be a disaster.

      Siya - 2011-06-15 13:50

      Liking it or not Julius Malema is going to be the president of ANCYL.... and I like it... no I mean to say I love it

      Matt - 2011-06-15 16:15

      The only ambition Julius Malema should have is to get a bullet lodged between the eyes

      nem - 2011-06-15 18:35

      @joggie,,,not all of us can afford to run to another country,,,in 2003 the anc mentioned giving the cape independence,,just by the way,,the option has crossed their desk,there i snothing they want in the western cape,it never belonged to them and never will..some of us have to stay and fight,,you however can run and thats fine,use your children as an excuse,but roughly 60% of whites coloureds and indians cannot afford to leave this beautiful country.good luck overseas sitting at your fire,dont burn the meat as it wont be quality meat as here in your homeland.

  • Fredster69 - 2011-06-14 15:21

    Yet Julius would like to run for more than 1 term...

      Old Man - 2011-06-14 16:30

      "SexyTshepo" - you are the only rubbish here.

      Wayne - 2011-06-14 16:35

      SexyTshepo - The new age online newspaper is at Please remove yourself from this site and support your newspaper.

      Schalk - 2011-06-14 17:13

      SexyTshepo and Old_Man; to quote Julius himself: Rubbish is what you have covered in that... eee... eee... trouser... Anyway, anyone with even the slightest ability of rational thought will be able to see that giving Julius Malema more power will be a fast-track to Zim. He completely tramples over poor Madiba's legacy and seems to be on a mission to chase every last educated worker out of the country. At first I thought this "Malema for president" nonsense was just a joke, but now it is actually becoming serious. I found it hard to believe that the uneducated masses were capable of keeping the ANC so comfortably in power, but now that they might throw their weight behind Malema I just don't know what to think anymore. Well, perhaps the concept of "thinking" just does not apply to SA anymore. This is just becoming an unrestrained "basic instinct" response. Man, I'm really glad to be on the outside looking in...

      TrueSaffa - 2011-06-14 18:02

      SexyTsepo i agree the old flag has bad memories, but he has a right to wave it. If malema can sing kill the boer which is not only racist, but condoning murder then let vaderland be.

  • Drolpeer - 2011-06-14 15:24

    Malema deserves to be thrown in a pit with adders, his real brothers.

      Kevin - 2011-06-14 15:33

      Poor adders

      BMFree - 2011-06-15 08:33

      Wayne no wonder there is hate. you are a IDIOT!!!!! Killing is the main problem here and you encourdge it????? IDIOT

  • ShabirS - 2011-06-14 15:25

    Going forward ANC needs to get rid of both Malema and Zuma, perhaps the need to lure Cyril Ramaphosa to lead this historical organisation. Failure to do that our beloved organisation will be sold to the highest bidder!

      African'shtr - 2011-06-14 15:36

      ShabirS Ramaphosa and Sexwale are very greedy, those two have no interest inthe future of the and the country they only want to feed their pockets and step back, if you still remember Mbeki never included the two in top positions because he knew a lot about the. check now sexwale also wanted to go for presidence against Zuma but he started notice that he is not going to make it.

      SamuelMabena - 2011-06-14 15:58

      I hope Zuma grows a pair and him and his senior ANC colleagues get rid of this militant Malema rot !!! They are a disgrace to Nelson Mandela's vision for South Africa!

      TypicalDarkie - 2011-06-14 16:27

      Malema has got to go, he is trying to bring this country down with his own personal agendas and greed, he is a dictator who is not interested in change except lining his own pocket. The day Malema stands as being the presidential candidate is the Day I vote against ANC

      Richie - 2011-06-14 18:13

      Cyril Ramaphosa would be fantastic. My grandfather was a big shot in the construction industry and use to negotiate with him (Cyril) regarding labour in the bad-old-days & he had emence respect for him. Unfotuantly his mind is on business now ... how would they get him back?

  • K.W.F.L - 2011-06-14 15:25

    Julius your day will come...the wheel turns and you will pay for your evil ways...!!

      Spoofed - 2011-06-14 15:54

      And how many more people need to die before his time comes? - 2011-06-15 14:08

      Just two more will do - JZ & JM out of the way - problem solved.

      Kelvyn - 2011-06-15 15:16

      not a chance in hell, Ju JU is a typical African dictator in the making, they all live a long and prosperous life, protected by hundreds if not thousands of leeches who earn money from corrupt deals. for the pale faces, start looking at your home land, for the charo's you will be safe as long as the chinese dont offer bigger bribes, so start looking too, and the darkies, you guys are going to be the hardest hit, if you think today there is hardship, go visit any African country !

  • mshayafe - 2011-06-14 15:26

    so sad this man is allowed to carry on like that

      Kenno - 2011-06-14 16:11

      @morentebo...You really are an ignorant f*%king racist!

      Blackup - 2011-06-14 16:23

      @ Kenno: I doubt morentebo is racist. May be not even ignorant. Sound like there could be kick-backs from Malema. @ Morentebo: Bring your sense and intelligence and make me see how this can be right!

      Martin du Plessis - 2011-06-14 16:31

      As i remember more, Terreblanch went to JAIL for carrying on like he did. There's an idea, send juju to jail.

      Shadoz - 2011-06-14 17:22

      where was Terrorblanch allowed to care on like this please tell me. He was a idiot and did things the wrong way but he was not a money hungry bigot like juju. I think juju needs to be taken out i will go so far as to say he must be flogged, tarred and feathered (white feathers)

      OB1 - 2011-06-14 17:31

      in fact he was eventually killed for carrying on the way he did

      Orca - 2011-06-15 11:20

      Malema has a strong following because he has articulated a cause that his followers believe in, namely strong statements about acquiring the economic resources of SA which have been in white control for generations. The ANC regimes to date have not delivered to the majority. Most live in abject poverty. They believe that Malema (or some one like him) will deliver. It's as simple as that. Frankly, if I sat freezing in my overcrowded corrugated iron shack tonight, I would give him my support. What would I have to lose, after all?

  • tigertank - 2011-06-14 15:27

    (shudder)....I have a feeling that we shall soon look back on this period in the same way Europe looked back on 1920's Germany....wondering why no one stopped a madman while there was a chance.

      Shadoz - 2011-06-14 17:23

      agreed 100% lets get rid of him

  • Ashvic - 2011-06-14 15:29

    I have a hollow in my tummy and my throat is clogged with tears - what has happened to our beautiful country? What has happened to Nelson Mandela's vision? Where do I run to this time? Am I safe? Are my children safe?

      TGIL - 2011-06-14 15:52

      That all depends on how much faith you have in the populations ability to maturely reject right wing anarchists like Malema in favour of logic, reason and progress. Have an escape plan to be safe - it takes time adjusting once you've left but I'll never miss SA enough to make me want to live there again. Too lawless, future less and desperate for anyone who refuses to apolgise. the moral compass of SA is long gone, and replaced with the law of the jungle, as expected

      morentebo - 2011-06-14 16:05

      we felt the same way with Terreblanche

      Mike or Mpho - 2011-06-14 16:12

      @morentebo - I am not sure whetehr I should laugh at your ignorance or wheter to cry, for you and your views represent a large chunk of this beautiful country

      Kenno - 2011-06-14 16:13

      Morentebo. Listen you fool, SADLY Terreblanche was not in control. If he was the likes of your racist crap would not be around. Grow up..this country is on tyhe verge of collapse and you sit there on your boss's pc making racist remarks. You are a fool!

      Oppressor - 2011-06-14 16:23

      @Moron-tebo how can a stolen PC be yours?

      Wayne - 2011-06-14 16:39

      Not all blacks are crooks but those supporting the ANC are.

      FaxM8 Fax - 2011-06-14 17:16

      @ morentebo Just like terreblanche melama wil get he's day , Hopefully for you lot its before he turn SA into another zimbabwe. Do you honestly reckon you are just going to walk into europe when SA is just another welfare state controled by a power hungry malema ? HAHAHA you are all going to die or eat mud like they do in zimbabwe while europe removes the whites from SA !!

      Shadoz - 2011-06-14 17:26

      then i hope they get rid of the blacks from europe and america seeing as how they want to be african soo friken bad.

      Orca - 2011-06-15 11:06

      @FaxM8 Fax, you are dreaming if you think "Europe (will) remove(s) the whites from SA". Europe is not in the least bit interested in the whites of SA. Europe hates "colonials". This has been proven throughout the decades of the emancipation of Africa.

  • Zizo Snr - 2011-06-14 15:30

    Zuma out.... Sexwale in!!! We support any endevours to unseat Zuma in 2012.

      TGIL - 2011-06-14 15:38

      who cares - do the world a favour an dont vote. You ANC supporters are one hair short of a warthog when it comes to intelligence

      SamuelMabena - 2011-06-14 15:59

      We support any endeavours to unseat Malema and shut down the rogue ANCYL.

      Virginia - 2011-06-14 16:20

      Tigl, reading the comments of people like Morentebo and nem I really do think you are not going to find millions out there with intellegence to know the Julius Malema will sink them as well. He has not a care in his body for the black people in this country, all he wants is the riches it holds, just like Mugabi. Big Fat Budda, maybe he too will go the same way as his comrade Peter Mugaba for ever young.

  • kuruption88 - 2011-06-14 15:31

    oh boy...

  • African'shtr - 2011-06-14 15:31

    if thus a plan to take out Zuma Malema I'm with you, the last time I checked he said he only wants one term, I think that term is about to end, ask Mc beth he will tell you how he lost. they say "easy come, easy go" Gwede Montashe for presidence

  • Sealebareki - 2011-06-14 15:31

    the problem to all these is ,everyone can speak in the ANC,we have lost the culture of this disciplined organisations,the ANC leaders must put this in order.the ANC was never formed with the self centred leadership.Polokwane destroyed the ANC,It hurts us who lost our parents and family members during the fight against apartheid.Zuma or any other leader they are too late,they have lost the ANC.

      Sgtsa - 2011-06-14 17:15

      I take you still voted ANC though

  • Wildebeest - 2011-06-14 15:33

    Here's an idea, lets split the country, whites take Cape Town and blacks take the rest of SA? I bet in 10 years Cape Town's GDP exceeds the GDP of the rest of SA.

      Redcanyon - 2011-06-14 15:36

      I totally agree and I am a black man

      William - 2011-06-14 15:42

      You are a wildebeest indeed my foot. You will never. That is a mentality of a nicompoop.

      50something - 2011-06-14 15:49

      Redcanyon - appreciate your comment, but lets keep race out of it. I would like to take it further and say that like minded, (progressive, level headed) people should group together and the other idiots should stay together.

      Martin du Plessis - 2011-06-14 15:52

      Not just Cape Town, but the whole WC. None of the really big mines the Malema Troop want to nationalize are in the WC anyway, so they won't miss it much.

      Greegs - 2011-06-14 16:13

      This would be ideal but it won't be long before the black people are knocking at the white's gate!

      LilGhettoBoy - 2011-06-14 16:23

      Now since when did Cape Town belonged to whites. I have a better one, how 'bout Orania for you and whoever wants to join in.

      Wayne - 2011-06-14 16:42

      @LilGhettoBoy - We would take Cape Town cause it was built by the DA supporters which in your eyes is mainly a white party. In reality it is a party supported by whites, coloureds and a few blacks. Guess we will just have to throw the ANC supporters out.

      wakeup - 2011-06-14 16:45

      unfortunately race can't be left out , as this is what it's all about, but yes,regardless of race get the people who want to have a future for South Africa together and let those blood thirsty and money hungry idiots fight it out amongst them selves.

      Orca - 2011-06-15 11:10

      Dream on.

  • Kevin - 2011-06-14 15:33

    If Zuma who I am no fan of must run for 1 term only then so must Fatboy. Surely the kindergarten ancyl can find someone with a brain to lead it.

      50something - 2011-06-14 15:46

      Kevin - not likely. His supporters are as idiotic as he his, that is the danger. The ANC seems to be powerless against the ANCYL, or is it silent approval of what he is doing - they have been using the ANCYL before to test and impliment policies, why not now? The ANCYL is a scapegoat should someone critise policy like racism.

  • ReThan - 2011-06-14 15:35

    HAHAHAHA. Shits going to hit the fan!

      kalabafazi - 2011-06-14 15:48

      It would ReThan but the fan got stolen.

      Mike or Mpho - 2011-06-14 16:13

      The fan never got built, as a result of a corrupt tender

      Merit - 2011-06-14 17:17

      do not forget the lack of initiative, brains, moral standards, drive, goals, planning....

      tryanything - 2011-06-15 06:39

      The Fen She is broken

  • noremac - 2011-06-14 15:36

    Malema sings a song that calls for the mass murder of a minority group.there was somebody else a couple of years back who did the same.who was that???.....o ya.Adolf Hitler....just a thought

      realist03 - 2011-06-14 17:15

      THE WRITING IS ON THE WALL,Fact,,,malema will take over,its inevitable,,the cp and other factions will revolt against malema,he will crush them and beat them into submission,,in the mean time malemas henchman will be evicting all whites from farms,,this is when all whites and any race,who want true democracy and freedom will have to m...ove to the western cape,as they want to drive us to the sea where we came from,its been their policy since the 70s,,except thats where we will take our final stand and make the cape independent,,the international community will make sure this happens to avoid mass refugees flooding to holland and the UK,so what can i say ,arm yourselves and start moving south people,,the clock is ticking faster than imagined.good luck and be safe.

  • Investor - 2011-06-14 15:37

    Everybody knows the internal election process within the ANC is deeply flawed and based on outdated processes. This endangers democracy and the efficient workings of government and the party.

      Martin du Plessis - 2011-06-14 15:55

      "the efficient workings of government and the party." wishfull thinking at it's best, ladies and gentelmen

      Orca - 2011-06-15 11:08

      So were the workings of the national party governments any better???

  • George - 2011-06-14 15:38

    People this is democracy at best. Most people are still used to the old Nazi apartheid policies where the media, Nazi electorate that endlessly voted NP into power never questioned anything. SA is a democracy, if you want to change things, join a party and challenge the status quo instead of being a keyboard warrior on endless bloggs. If Zuma does not perform then he must face his party and the electorate. No one is immune from removal from office. In that way our democracy will mature from the command traditions of nazi apartheid where nothing was questioned except by the ANC, UDF and Bishop Tutu. All of a sudden due to the struggle that was launched by democratic Nazi hating people, everyone now has a big mouth, which is good. Julius Malema is contesting openly and fairly. Well if you dont like it tough luck because we are not going back to nazi apartheid where the nazi apartheid electorate cheered the murderous NP government. Get used to democracy.

      StaalBurgher - 2011-06-15 15:33

      If Malema becomes President I think the world will realise that the thinking behind Apartheid was not about subjugation but survival. That said I would rather be proven wrong on that and be abused by self-loathing, hand wringing liberals for the rest of my life.

      John Wilderness - 2011-06-16 12:35

      "Survival" Absolute garbage. What did you have to survive except your own stupidity ?

  • Pixie1984 - 2011-06-14 15:39

    I suppose this is actually news to some people? Juliass is alot cleverer than he portrays. Manipulative lying ignorant swine. If he becomes President, then I know I need to pack my things and leave.

  • resimateb - 2011-06-14 15:40

    This is very cheap journalism. This article is a cut and paste of various parts of other articles. It is a compilation articles. Just like we have a compilation CD, this is just that. People must go to the ANC and learn how it works rather than this superficial levels of investigation and fear mongering journalism. That is why people dont even put their names to the articles.

      Almaki - 2011-06-15 11:03

      I don't care how it works. What I care about is the fact that a madman who wants to murder everyone who doesn't agree with him seems on track to someday become the president of the country I love.

  • noremac - 2011-06-14 15:42

    malema calls for his people to kill and murder a minority group by singing shoot the boer. somebody else did something similar a couple of years ago.Adolf hitler

  • TGIL - 2011-06-14 15:45

    All the naysayers and negative thinkers fear and gospel is embodied in this buffoon Julius Malema. He is everything the whites predicted in respect of a brainless racist child demanding money and destruction of progress one day rising to the top of SA politics on a wave of hatred only to enrich himself and friends and rapidly unwind 100 years of progress, just as every black leader in the continent has done. These people simply cannot conceptualise or operate above a world of chaos, corruption and filth. They'll turn SA into the goat yard kraal they grew up in if it kills them. The ANC voters deserve a leader like this and all the tragedy and cries for aid that come with it. I just feel sorry for all innocents, and the countries that will have to deal with the tsunami of people who will pour out of SA in the next 5-10 years. How embarrassing to be South African. You people and us whites, are nothing alike.

      Wayne - 2011-06-14 16:18

      I feel exactly the same way...they deserve all the pain and agony that Malema will set upon them for years to come.

  • jbhsquare - 2011-06-14 15:47

    The primary aim of the ANC has always been to stay in power. Not to do what is best for the country. Staying in power brings with it individual power and wealth for you and your friends. After Mandela all we have seen is a downward spiral to what will become like any other African country. An abject failure with the bullies running the country for their own benefit. Mbeki placed his friends, supporters and family .... and now Zuma has repaid the favours to his supporters ...... but there are always hyena around! Malema knows where to get his support and is shrewd and not to be underestimated. Mbeki made that mistake!

  • Braam - 2011-06-14 15:49

    The solution is simple - the ANC should never be in the position to change the constitution, therefore not get 67% or more in an election. Otherwise, the majority of South Africa is getting the government they deserve.

      SeanJ - 2011-06-14 16:14

      malema will definitly not get more than 67% surprisingly i think more than 50% of the blacks dont support his views... all the blacks i know in PE dont support him.

      sefeddt - 2011-06-15 10:04

      You assuming they abide by the constitution which is worthless if those in power choose to ignore it. Zimbabwe as a case in point, load the juidicary with party sympathetic judges and its quite easy.

  • Gorilla - 2011-06-14 15:50

    Like Hyena's fighting over a carcass. It will be finished soon, and they will be hungry again.

  • nem - 2011-06-14 15:50

    Fact,,,malema will take over,its inevitable,,the cp and other factions will revolt against malema,he will crush them and beat them into submission,,in th emean time malemas henchman will be evicting all whites from farms,,this is when all white and those who want true democracy and freedom will have to move to the western cape,as they want to drive us to the sea where we came from,its been their policy since the 70s,,except that swhere we will take our final stand and make the cape independent,,the international community will make sure this happens to avoid mass refugees flooding holland and the UK,so what can i say ,arm yourselves and start moving south people,,the clock is ticking faster than imagined.good luck and be safe.

  • Spoofed - 2011-06-14 15:52

    While the ANC is still in power... why do they not just pull the plug on the league.. if they know this is what's going to happen why not put a stop to it? or do they want this crap to happen.. yea i wonder... If malema becomes president then every white person in this coutnry should flee... no jokes... =(

  • tailormade - 2011-06-14 15:54

    Headlines: Wednesday 15 June 2011 ANCYL condemns the media for spreading malicious rumours...

      Greybeard - 2011-06-14 16:32

      Try this one... In the aftermath of the ANCYL conference at Gallagher Estate, a spokesperson estimated the damage to facilities at 150 Million. Latest casualty statistics are 127 fatalities, and 455 persons hospitalized, 162 of those have been categorized as critical. Most of those listed as critical have been move to private intensive care facilities throughout the province. The fire that gutted the main complex was eventually extinguished late on Saturday night. A spokesman for the emergency services said..... Call me Cassandra!

  • willieman - 2011-06-14 15:55

    The reality says there is no way that Zuma is going to implement what ANCYL wants.When you are outside goverment it is easy to make noise.Ask Blade.The world does not operate according to ANCYL,that's why Zuma the other day said Malema is still young is on a learning curve.You make noise outside you get in then you realise that this are two different worlds

  • Markal - 2011-06-14 15:56

    Is this not the same malema who vowed to 'take up arms' for zuma? I guess the word hypocrisy doesn't exist in the pedi language.

  • SamuelMabena - 2011-06-14 15:57

    Malema represents the new ANCYL revolution. These guys have fought no wars, they've won no battles, yet they are seeking to start something so that they can claim to have achieved something with their useless lives. STOP MALEMA AND THE ANCYL, FOR THE SAKE OF MADIBA'S VISION. STOP THEM !!!

      william.botha - 2011-06-14 16:17

      You got my vote for real

      Virginia - 2011-06-15 10:37

      Samuel, what I cannot understand that the Leaders of this country allow themselves to be dictated to by a scum like Malema, he is ruining the whole country for the rest of the people. WE need work so that people can start living properly, our children must have a quality of life, especially those stuck in the town ships, this is what he and the ANCYL should be doing, making us proud of the youth of today, not screaming for war, which he is doing.

  • Dougalan - 2011-06-14 15:58

    South Africa needs statesmen to lead it - people with education and who understand economics. Thir colour does NOT matter - ability does. And Malema is not within a million miles of being a proper leader for a country like SA - not a statesman, couldn't hold a debate with a high school graduate. SA will go down the plug if this ignorant racist loudmouth is allowed any real power. Voters wake up - you will be the ones to suffer when jobs dry up more than now.

  • anna - 2011-06-14 15:58

    I see a bad moon rising ... the size of malema's head

      Man.Dumisani - 2011-06-14 16:03

      That's not a moon, it's Malemas @ss !

      Man.Dumisani - 2011-06-14 16:04

      oh wait, my mistake. Malema's @ss and face are the same thing.

  • avaricesa - 2011-06-14 16:04

    I can't believe this, Zuma pretty much supports Malema, yet, Malema is trying to oust Zuma? Am I getting this right?

      sefeddt - 2011-06-15 10:08

      Both Zuma and Mantashe have rebuked Malema for ill dicipline and contradicted he Malema has said. Both are now in his sights.

  • JustinD - 2011-06-14 16:05

    Malema = Bullet to the head

      Spoofed - 2011-06-14 16:10

      Now if only somebody could actually steer that bullet for real.. what a party it would be...

  • PIET VENTER - 2011-06-14 16:07


      sefeddt - 2011-06-15 10:10

      Sorry the ANCYL, COSATU, MK Vets, SACP will never allow this to happen as this will cut off their self enrichment desires.

      Virginia - 2011-06-15 10:40

      Sefeddet you never said a truer word, why do you think there is so much fighting inside the ANC, they cannot loose the income for doing nothing.Now they want to build a new Parliament in CT, it should ot be allowedas it will only be another place, probably with pullout beds so they can sleep comfortably.

  • Greegs - 2011-06-14 16:07

    This has to be expected. In the one breath Malema is Zuma's friend and the next Zuma has a knife in his back! How could you not expect this? Kiss international investing/funding goodbye and greet unemployment and crime.

  • ShakaN - 2011-06-14 16:09

    why should we be any different to the rest of africa, corrupt,lawless and a wasteland

  • matubeng - 2011-06-14 16:09

    Firstly Zuma did not deserve to be a President, it happened by default. Go for him Malema. He doesn't have position on everything, Foreign policy, economic policy, and human rights issues. He must go and retire. After all he survived the courts and that's what he wanted.

      Greybeard - 2011-06-14 16:35

      I assume you will be holding Juju's hand in court when his other tenderpreneur projects get washed away or exposed.

      Virginia - 2011-06-15 10:44

      Matubeg, Zuma has a little more sense then Malema. Malema will not be good for the country. People will not invest, and th company's already here will pull out, then there will defiantly be no work, you will have to depend on yourself for the future, so dont be so quick to say go for him Malema, you are digging a deeper hole for you and your comrades.

  • The Unknown - 2011-06-14 16:10

    I love it when they fight amongst each other. Laws of the jungle

      Oppressor - 2011-06-14 16:27

      Im waiting for them to start killing each other on a grand scale. Cant wait!

  • DW - 2011-06-14 16:11

    Does anyone know, if Malema is targeting Zuma, who he has in mind as his replacement? I would be interested to know which of the senior ANC officials support this idiot. It could be quite revealing as to who the people are who want to rape this country even more.

  • mo-man - 2011-06-14 16:12

    Infighting in the ANC......nice! This going to be a good one. Can't wait for the action to start.

  • Herdsman - 2011-06-14 16:13

    ...I think South Africans will be mature enough to not let this despot in waiting in to power, if they do let him in they must pay they consequences, Ill be moving to Perth !

  • Jacques Jones - 2011-06-14 16:15

    hopefully the anc splits properly this time, not like the cope blunder. if the triparheid alliance splits up there will be an equal playing field for all political parties.

  • camdrone - 2011-06-14 16:20

    We are a BANANA Republic already: corruption, no service delivery; crumbling infrastructure; stupids voting the useless government back into power etc.

  • william.botha - 2011-06-14 16:20

    Voting for Malema is the same as chickens voting for KFC.

  • Heronakamura - 2011-06-14 16:24

    I don't know what the fuss is all about. Let Zuma have thew taste of his medicine. Remember the phrase "We will kill for Zuma"? When something is wrong, it must be condemned regardless of who it is directed to or whom it benefits.

  • Virginia - 2011-06-14 16:30

    Mr Nzimande, you are reaping the harvest you have sewn. People like Julius Malem should have been put in their place long time ago, he is not only a danger to the commun ity but to the leadership its self, he should be sent out of the country maybe to Siberia to be a diplomat, then you take the ANCYL and change it to exactly that. Everyone over the age of 18 years does not belong their. They are supposed to be there to educate and encourage the youth of today to be better people, but they dont, they act exactly like the scum that murder and rape our citizens. We the taxpayer are sick and tire of having to listen to him spewing his intentions all over the place, its about time Big Business stood up to the government and forgot for one moment about their profits, either the government does something about Julius Malema or the close their door in thie country, exactly like they did against the apartheid regime, but they are to chicken to open their mouths, at least Pick n Pay did although he was shot down by some of our racial commentors, he at least had the guts to stand and say something.

  • Ben - 2011-06-14 16:30

    I like it...Divide and conquer

  • zmafuduka - 2011-06-14 16:33

    Banana Republic "Very Interesting from a Senior Official"