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Bill protests 'undermine state security'

2011-11-27 19:03

Johannesburg - Protests against the protection of state information bill are out to weaken and undermine state security, said the SA Communist Party in Gauteng on Sunday.

"We reject the attempts to entrust the security of the national democratic revolution with the commercial and capitalist private media and elevate editorial supremacy above that of the people represented by their elected representatives," said acting provincial secretary Jacob Mamabolo in a statement.

Mamabolo said the party believed that once the bill became law, it would "consolidate and defend" the national democratic revolution.

He said the provincial branch of the party welcomed the passing of the bill by the National Assembly.

Comments
  • goyougoodthing - 2011-11-27 19:21

    "National Democratic Revolution" What exactly is that? I've heard of democracy, I've heard of revolution, but how one goes about a democratic revolution is a bit beyond me. Do we vote on who gets to line up in front of a firing squad? Do we vote for our favourite revolutionaries? These people talk so much nonsense they don't even make sense.

      Tc - 2011-11-27 20:37

      Meaningless cliches. Meaningless, like so many others.

      Warren - 2011-11-27 22:12

      Can they provide a case where media has disclosed information detrimental to SA that wasn't related to corruption. We all know it's more about keeping corruption secret than keeping national secrets secret. Also, seeing the Communists fighting for democracy should be seen for the load of tripe it is

      Burton - 2011-11-28 10:59

      After reading this article I agree with you goodthing! If we had to question Mamabolo he would not be able to answer as he read this statement. He has no idea what some of these big words mean. He probably sat there afterwards saying "Eish, what is on this paper, I can't believe these big words" This bill will be the end of a democratic country, oops that happened 18 years ago!

      Kala - 2011-11-28 11:04

      @Leonard - It seems to have been deleted from your FB page too.

  • Isaac - 2011-11-27 19:24

    There is no democracy in Communism. How can these stupid SACP leaders refer to a "democratic revolution"?

      Burton - 2011-11-28 11:03

      If we did live in a democracy, why does the ANC have comrades? Why does cheeseboy Malema wear a berret? Those are signs of communists!!! But hey, in the townships and the rural areas the best sounding idiot wins the polls. Look at all the protesting before the municipal voting, guess what, the idiots who voted ANC are still in the same boat. Eis, I can't believe!!!!

      Kala - 2011-11-28 11:05

      Thats why we shouldn't get overly concerned when the commies make a statement. The just need the media time.

  • TamaraSays - 2011-11-27 19:49

    Funny how protesting against a bill, which in it's current form, represents a clear cut drive towards a fascist state, but the fact that our state security MINISTER has a drug dealer for a wife doesn't phase this bunch. Eish.

      Impi - 2011-11-27 20:01

      LOL LOL LOL. That was so funny Tamara. We can only laugh about this government. Drug dealing next to your Minister husband! Picture this. They are (were) in bed at night each on a cell phone. She arranges the drugs and he provides her with cover! He should have been fired. Him and Mac and so many other in the government are making a mockery of us.

      TamaraSays - 2011-11-27 20:24

      Precisely - surely there's a conflict of interest there! But all they're worried about is that journalists want the right to report issues in the public interest. It's back to apartheid for us, I am afraid. The roles may be reversed, and the names are different, but the goals are the same, and they're just as bad.

      Impi - 2011-11-27 20:38

      Tamara this is actually worse than Apartheid. At least we all knew where we stood with the Afrikaners, now I don't know what this concoction of a government is all about. Imagine Marthinus van Schalkwyk also being there to guide them with the new Bill. Insane, I tell you and he was there to vote it in again. It is all about lining their pockets and screw us.

      Breinlekkasie - 2011-11-28 07:52

      Poor old Carl Niehaus must feel like an idiot. If only he could have managed to keep his fraudulent qualification out of the press till now. Alex Irvine might have saved his political career as well but it is a bit difficult to hide an electric crises from the media if half the public doesn’t have electricity. Their timing was just so bad!

  • Sharon - 2011-11-27 19:50

    IDIOTS

  • Larry - 2011-11-27 19:56

    What an absolute load of Rubbish.

  • Heinrich - 2011-11-27 19:57

    Mamabolo said the party believed that once the bill became law, it would "consolidate and defend" the national democratic revolution. It will defend the national democratic revolution against the people of South Africa.

      Tc - 2011-11-27 20:44

      Does it mean the so-called 'democratic revolution' is one and the same as 'ability to plunder'? If it is the same, then Mamabolo is right, the media will be restricted in their ability to expose corruptin and self-enrichment! So, one can understand why the ANC so badly wants this bill.

  • Rob - 2011-11-27 20:13

    This entire law is based on silencing the anti-corruption campaigners. The story goes"IT'S NOW OUR TURN TO EAT"???

  • Cracker - 2011-11-27 20:17

    Question to the SACP: Now what is it about the national democratic revolution that we should not know that we actually need secrecy laws to hide it?

  • Cracker - 2011-11-27 20:27

    @ Siyanda Ngobetha While you busy yourself with senseless pasting of silly ideas and lies here the real go-getters with guts are getting richer and better off by actually participating meaningfully in the economy. They don't have the time or inclination to indulge in sad fates and myths for others to share. A total waste of time for you to complain and spread myths. In five years you will still be doing the same but one must suspect that even you will eventually become bored with yourself.

  • John - 2011-11-27 20:37

    Stalin, Mao. Pol Pot, Honeker, Castro. Must I carry on? This is the direction they have all taken with the result of 100 million people murdered in different countries in the name of comunism. People of their own nationalitities, simply for defying the regime. The first step has always been to restrict freedom of press. Not sure why we worry about hitler, pinochet, videla, Franco, Mussolini and so on. The numbers of people they wiped out are a small fraction of those "achieved" by communism. In any case, people were always free to leave the countries these regimes controled. Can't dsay the same for communism. Can we?? JUst an observation.

      werner.smidt - 2011-11-27 21:38

      Hoxha . . don't forget Hoxha.

  • Tc - 2011-11-27 20:39

    The ANC is incapable to distinguish between State Security and their overwhelming desire to plunder!

  • mike.clery - 2011-11-27 21:36

    SA Communist Party - is that some sort of nostalgia movement? Very Fifties, and not very relevant in the 21st century.

  • David Skea - 2011-11-27 21:41

    Sounds like they marinade themselves in stupidity and ignorance.

  • Herman - 2011-11-27 21:44

    SACP, just so you know, democracy & communism does not go in the same sentence. What does go in the same sentence is, "Take your communist party & move to a communist country, we don't need you here!"

  • Daniël - 2011-11-27 21:46

    ALL 1001 PAID UP MEMBERS OF THE SACP!! AG SIESTOG!

  • mike.clery - 2011-11-27 21:55

    Communism and Eugenics are concepts from the same era - both should have stayed there.

  • infijar.ken - 2011-11-27 21:55

    They wouldn't be the Communist Party if they didn't state this! One day somebody will have to explain to me how a few people voted into positions of power by their family and chums is Democracy, anyway! I've got the bit abut people have a free vote, but that is only for a Party. How come nobody has a constituent MP they can actually vote for, go to for help/assistance? no wonder people like Malema and the president get to where they are, there appear to be few (if any) checks and balances. Well, apart from the Fifth Estate. Luckily, for a little while anyway, this is Free.

  • John - 2011-11-27 22:12

    Are you off your head???????

  • Silvana - 2011-11-28 05:47

    "once the bill became law, it would "consolidate and defend" the national democratic revolution." Whose ar*se are you trying to lick, Mamabolo? Where have you been in the last 17 years? THE REVOLUTION IN OVER! OVER! AS far as democracy is concerned, you wouldn't recognise it if you sat on it. Once again, a load of rhetoric claptrap from a mushroom farmer.

  • Mark - 2011-11-28 07:16

    At first I was concerned that the government had come out with this, then I realized it was the SA Communist party. Bunch of nobodies going nowhere in their nowhere land....tells you something about the way commnists think. That is why it has collaped across the world, they are about power and control living an outdated and retro philosophy that has no meaning in the modern world. Clowns all of them.....

  • Breinlekkasie - 2011-11-28 07:36

    Yes now we entrust the security of the national democratic revolution (whatever that is supposed to mean) in the hands of incompetent, self-serving and malicious politicians. What is worse, “commercial and capitalist private media” or “incompetent, self-serving and malicious politicians”? Gee, I am having a hard time deciding!

  • Tshivhombela Fhatuwani - 2011-11-28 08:06

    These 'communists' think everyone is stupid and ignorant as they continue to bombard us with oral diarrhoea. Communism undermines the will of the people and whenever you feel like caught by verbal diarrhoea, don't involve people that you always undermine when taking decisions that might change their lives for worse . The Info Bill was passed undermining the reading population SA and which people are you referring to? The principles of communities seem rosy on scripts but impractical when implimented. How do ANC and SACP sleep on same bed while their ideologies are antithetical. These comical clowns claim to be communists while being tenderpreneurs on the side. They high life and still to be communists, Karl Marx would be shaking in his grave. Joe Slovo is the only better example ever associated with communism in SA, he lived as communist and buried in coffin valued R250 as communist. To me communism still sounds like a theory with multiple misinterpretations associated with it. Communism is tantamount to autocracy and it would drag us hundred years backwards. What a political nonsense!!

  • Benmica - 2011-11-28 09:04

    Every whistleblower can be jaield with thst bill. We will stand up against that!

  • Tshivhombela Fhatuwani - 2011-11-28 10:16

    The media that you are slapping today brought democracy to SA after they won the battle against apartheid. The press did more than the MK did in the battle against apartheid. Media did enough to expose the evil of apartheid, memorably the expose` of Steve Biko's mysterious death in custody. Now the battle against corruption belongs to the media as the law can't take it's cause. The slap on the face of media equates to a slap on Mandela's face. Let the media inform us in this information age inform us without fear or favour.

  • ludlowdj - 2011-11-28 11:40

    The SACP is a joke and should be discounted as a serious anything. These are the same idiots who are still pushing the same socialist agenda that has failed in every other country in the world. One is left wondering whether they are just die hard brown noses or whether their is possible a very real mental issue keeping them flogging that dead horse of theirs.

  • EyesEars - 2011-11-28 14:17

    @ Warren Could not agree with you more. Governments have been spying on one another for years, so it really is more than just a pathetic and lame excuse. But what do you expect. It's the modus operandi, is it not? Everything that becomes a so-called threat must be eliminated. This bill will just ensure that there are more collateral damaged goods, than necessary. Another Stompie-case under the radar, like so many others. And then they have the audacity to play oh so sorry and oh so sad! The ANC and all it's cronies + all their advisors should have their heads examined for all their lies and thievery that has been proven over the years. Hell you just can't help yourselves, but you want to be in charge. What a bleddie joke!!!!!

  • pretoriawebdesigner - 2011-11-29 08:44

    facebook.com/groups/longwalktofreedom Mr Mamabolo as retarded as you seem to think we are, the constitution specifically contradicts you, You do know that we have a constitutional democracy right? If I were allowed to use bad words, I'd tell you where to go undiplomatically. We will protest and we are patriots.

  • bkaridza - 2011-12-03 11:50

    Gentleman, do not mistaken state security and elite security, they are two different entities and in this case the bill seems more enclined to protect the elite from being exposed of malpractice. whats there to hide that will bennefit the pple and besides, its the pple who are saying no and ANC was supposed to sell their idea adequatly before going to parliament with a draconian piece of legislation, the sun has risen, good morning wake wake!

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