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'Black Tuesday' protest at Luthuli House

2011-11-22 09:18

Johannesburg - A group of people dressed in black protested against the controversial protection of state information bill (POIB) outside the headquarters of the ANC in Johannesburg on Tuesday.

The crowd lined the streets outside Luthuli House, quietly holding placards, which read "We have the right to know", "Stop secrecy bill" and "Let the truth be told".

Some motorists passing-by were hooting in support of the protest. Two security guards were present outside and one police van was on the scene.

The POIB will come before the National Assembly for a vote later on Tuesday.

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National Press Club (NPC) chairperson Yusuf Abramjee said the day, dubbed "Black Tuesday" will mark the start of dark days for freedom of speech, freedom of expression and media freedom.

"We have received thousands of messages of support from across SA and it's time that we get a loud and clear message to government that we will not sit back and watch our Constitutional rights being infringed," he said.

Some political parties, many NGOs, the Right2Know campaign and the SA National Editors Forum supported the Black Tuesday initiative, he said.

The NPC asked people opposed to the bill to wear black clothes, a black ribbon or a black armband.

It named the campaign "Black Tuesday", based on what became known as "Black Wednesday" - October 19 1977, when the apartheid government banned The World, the Sunday World and a Christian publication Pro Veritas, as well as almost 20 people and organisations associated with the black consciousness movement.

The ANC'S parliamentary caucus dismissed the protest as a "distortion of facts".

"The only result this unfortunate comparison and the planned campaign, in which people are urged to dress in black will achieve is to dilute the real history of the Black Wednesday and insult the victims of apartheid's barbaric laws," ANC Chief Whip Mathole Motshekga said on Monday.

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Comments
  • deon.fourie - 2011-11-22 09:32

    Interestingly, the more I see people's outrage against this Bill the more I wish it gets passed... hear me out: At least that way we can deal with the REAL issues here, which is the "F*** YOU" attitude that's pushing this. Stopping the Bill is like putting a plaster on a massive leak. The ridiculous mindset of our current government needs to be tackled head on. If this Bill gets passed we know where we stand so we can at least get pissed off enough to maybe do something about it.

      Hat3d - 2011-11-22 09:43

      Sadly 90% of South Africans see what's happening and don't act on what the 1% is doing, after the bill is passed the remaining 9% will be blinded unable to know what to act against and the 1% will be able to do as they please

      deon.fourie - 2011-11-22 10:02

      @Hat3d, I agree. I really do. The problem is that I despise the situation we're sitting with. We're in a position now that we shouldn't be in in the first place! Fighting this Bill obviously makes sense and the opposition to this is almost legendary by now. That's where the problem lies. The ANC is blatantly pushing this despite of what the people (their employers) think. I think if this Bill goes through we'll at least know where we all stand, and maybe, just maybe this Bill together with things like the Toll Roads etc. will be the catalyst that'll cause some REAL change. How, if, and when that will happen I have no idea. But I'd rather take a chance on it happening than having to trod along this path where we have to wear stupid black clothes and join Facebook groups etc. every now and then to fight against things that are so obviously retarded.

      Hat3d - 2011-11-22 10:43

      I hear what you're saying, maybe people will act once they see things get worst? My question is how well is that working for China and Zimbabwe? I'd rather peacefully walk in black clothes to freedom than die a bloody battle on the streets because that is what getting worst will result in, ask Egypt and the likes

      deon.fourie - 2011-11-22 10:58

      And I'd rather know the score right now and fight with the people around me for what we believe in than slowly suffocate under the perceived rule of a bunch of criminal, misfit, degenerate, morally bankrupt, narcissistic losers who think they can use the resources we work for so that they can compete without other to see who has the most power and bling. Sure, I don't have kids like many folks do so I probably don't understand the full repercussions "figthing" for something might have. But let's be honest here, the fight is being brought to us, whether we like it or not. Essentially this Bill is a declaration of war against freedom, against us.

      Hat3d - 2011-11-22 12:24

      We seem to be on the same page? Wearing black and changing your FB pic is about taking the fight to them or am I misunderstanding you?

      lonngren.prinsloo - 2011-11-22 17:24

      You do make a very good point, but will it be enough? The problem I see with this is that, if the bill is passed, the government will be able to hide all its cock-ups and corruption schemes behind it. With the mentality of the run-of-the-mill South African in mind, if we don't see theissue it doesn't exist...

  • Marion - 2011-11-22 09:32

    I'm wearing black today.

      DerpyHooves - 2011-11-22 09:55

      @poly Will you be satisfied if we started calling that colour "unwhite"?

      Shirley - 2011-11-22 10:04

      Hi Marion. Ive seen an awsome response in my area. People from rural areas coming from the wine areas here are also wearing black, so its good to know that this message realy is coming from a vast spectrum of citizens.Poloyatonki and friends are to be ignored as they dont get it-never will. They are living in a closed minded selfish mindset!

      ronald.stilianou - 2011-11-22 10:16

      Poloyatonki - I know this magical well not far from my home where you just have to make a wish and throw a R2 coin in and your wish will come true. So, with that said, there is a way for you to become white after-all. It will truly be a happy day for you.

      Ina - 2011-11-22 10:24

      Me too! The timing for this bill is also very well calculated isn't it?

      Barbicus247 - 2011-11-22 10:36

      good for you, its a bit cold today, and black is appropriate, besides its a perfect contrast for the color of ur skin.

      Johan - 2011-11-22 10:38

      @Polio. Dude seriously... the black is for Blackout... as in Media Black out. I know a good psychologist, you my friend have allot of issues !!

      ronald.stilianou - 2011-11-22 10:40

      But Poly. We all can see by your unhealthy obsession by the word "black" that there are some deep-seated issues that needs to be dealt with.(by a professional psychiatrist not a sangoma!!!!)

  • Gregory Jurgens - 2011-11-22 09:36

    It should be , shut up an do as you told day.

  • octavia.govender - 2011-11-22 09:37

    Government CANNOT BE TRUSTED!!!!! WHY GIVE THEM THE RIGHT TO SECRECY??? SAY NO TO THE SECRECY BILL!!!!

  • shayne.robinson - 2011-11-22 09:39

    Never, never and never again shall it be that this beautiful land will again experience the oppression of one by another. - Nelson Mandela How quickly they forget and tarnish the work done by a True South African Hero

      StarStruck - 2011-11-22 10:21

      Look at how much the ANC have cost us. They cannot be sustained and they are a liability. We will occupy this land for much longer than them and have the right to object to everything that threatens our future and freedom thereof. They are out of touch with South African society in general. The youth of today have an obligation to fight for continued freedom of expression/speech or at least a future that we want to live in. Viva for change!!!

  • Shirley - 2011-11-22 09:43

    Every person who cares about the future of this country should be wearing black today! This is not about race,gender or religion but about the rights of every south african to demand that a government who says its promotes decmocracy to actually do so! So people like Marazor who are infantile enough to think only in terms of race issues,this is bigger than you and your "feel sorry,stop picking on me,IM BLACK " attitude!!!

  • Arno - 2011-11-22 09:43

    Also make your facebook profiles black in protest.

  • Never-apologize - 2011-11-22 09:44

    These Black Govt hater should make sure they behave in the Head Quarters of the Ruling Party in Govt. Most of them recorded the events when another political party thaught they were special and invaded the HQ.

      Shirley - 2011-11-22 10:58

      You are SAD!

      Omnivore - 2011-11-22 11:05

      Dummy.

      monkinsane - 2011-11-22 14:17

      That does not even make sense. Get an education.

      Peter - 2011-11-22 15:15

      Never educated, never worked, always lazy, always stupid! Shut up jelltot, your stupidity reflects bad on your race!

      braamc - 2011-11-22 17:50

      Count me in "Black Govt hater" yeah baby

  • aardvarkie - 2011-11-22 09:46

    "The only result this ¦¦¦¦ comparison ¦¦¦¦ ¦¦¦¦ ¦¦¦¦, in which people are urged to ¦¦¦¦ ¦ ¦¦¦¦ ¦¦¦¦ achieve is ¦¦ ¦¦¦¦ ¦¦¦¦ ¦¦¦¦ ¦¦¦¦ ¦¦ ¦¦ Black Wednesday and insult the ¦¦¦¦ ¦¦ ¦¦¦¦ barbaric laws," ANC Chief Whip Mathole Motshekga said on Monday.

      aardvarkie - 2011-11-22 09:47

      ... how do you like that Mathole Motshekga, I just PWN'd your statement.

  • JudithNkwe - 2011-11-22 09:47

    I'm in black today

      Poloyatonki - 2011-11-22 10:24

      I am in White.

      Peter - 2011-11-22 14:37

      Poly if you had white on we still couldnt see you in a crowd wearing black, why? because you are a ......, we dont expect you to get it, you will never, maybe if you were educated a little, then transfer that to the next 6 generations of your offspring, throw in a miricle and just maybe, no who am i kidding, you wont, ttoooo stupid! Luto Pezulu!

  • jpstrauss - 2011-11-22 09:49

    A song (to the tune of Painted Black): I see an arms deal and I want it painted black No corruption anymore I want it to turn black I see Mac maharaj walk free dressed in his finest clothes I have to turn my head until my darkness goes I see a line of cars and they're all painted black With blue lights and MP's sitting in the back I see people turn their heads and quickly drive away Like tenderpreneurship, it just happens ev'ryday No more will our democracy have a delightful hue Who could have foreseen this thing happening to you If I look hard enough into the Sunday Sun I stand the risk of staring down an armed thug's gun I look inside myself and see my heart is black I see my newspaper, it has been painted black Maybe now they'l slither away and not have to face the facts It's not easy facing up when your whole world is black I see an unconfortable truth and I want it painted black No info anymore I want it to turn black I see Siyabonga Cwele walk by dressed in his fascist clothes I have to turn my head until my darkness goes Hmm, hmm, hmm... They wanna see it painted black, painted black Black as night, black as coal They wanna see the press, blotted out from the sky They wanna see it painted, painted, painted, painted black Yeah Hmm, hmm, hmm...

      aardvarkie - 2011-11-22 09:55

      Brilliant! Stealing it for Face Book and you can't even sue me mwaahahaha

      jpstrauss - 2011-11-22 09:56

      Please do.

      aardvarkie - 2011-11-22 10:01

      Thanks man! Well done if you wrote it!

      Althea - 2011-11-22 10:06

      Great! I think this should be published! Great work JP Strauss

      Dave - 2011-11-22 10:09

      The only comment that has brought a smile to me on this sad day for us, thanks JP

      LeeTheOrc - 2011-11-22 10:15

      i also stole it sorry but it is good

      jpstrauss - 2011-11-22 10:28

      I'm a libertarian. I don't believe in copyright or the right of government to withhold information. Share as thou wilt.

      Marion - 2011-11-22 10:40

      I'm wearing black. I dabble in poetry and simply love what you have done with this. Stealing for my fb page. I'm wearing black.

      berni.venter - 2011-11-22 11:07

      AWESOME! Someone (preferably that can sing) record it and let's go viral!!!

  • gerald.jacob1 - 2011-11-22 09:52

    Why must the media have more freedom than me as a citizen of South Africa. Why should they be my mouth piece, don't we have political parties that do this for us in parliament. The media is using this campaign to ensure that their sensational reporting goes forward, printing stories without even investigating them properly. The media is South Africa has become reckless and are there to merely profit of some of their ridiculous stories. We need to stand up against the media for a change. I don't think the media should have more rights than any other citizen in South Africa.

      Shirley - 2011-11-22 09:59

      So you would be ok with goverment continuing with corruption and we the public are having this info witheld from us? This is not about tabloid news but tax paying citizens rights to know whats being done in their country!

      aardvarkie - 2011-11-22 10:02

      I would rather have sensationalist journalism where the truth eventually comes out, rather than no truth at all.

      makesuthink - 2011-11-22 10:25

      So you want the bill to go through because you THINK that the press profit from rediculous stories and you want to stand up against the press. if itwas not for the press you wouldn't know about this bill DUH! More freedom the you or me wanna bet they cannot call you a f???// idiot but I can so put that in your pipe and smoke it

      jpstrauss - 2011-11-22 10:29

      Be careful, Sensationalism is the pretty sister of Propaganda.

      NormanJVisser - 2011-11-22 10:30

      Agreed, we ALL have the RIGHT to know. We should all make it our business to know what these fools are up to and we have a duty to stop them when they are stealing from us. Me and you. Furthermore, there shouldn't be a law against knowing what they're doing.

      jody.beggs - 2011-11-22 10:32

      And our tax money .... I have a right to now how its spent !

  • bongani.miselo - 2011-11-22 10:08

    Noise made by the media opposing the bill is too much and it makes sense.Whenever i listen to the ANC's Jackson Mthembu trying very hard to articulate the reason behind this UGLY bill i don know what happens to me.The bill means if one comes accross a document or witnesses a corrupt activity one has to report that to the authority instead of exposing it.Does it mean we would not have read about the LEASE AGREEMENT that General Cele and Ms Mandonsela entered into with Mr Shabangu.How far are the investigation on Sunday Times Mzilikazi.Remember he was charged and they were dropped and the police said they will continue with their investigations.Where are we going someone tell me.

      Poloyatonki - 2011-11-22 10:28

      I hear what you are saying but the media in SA is like loose cannon....

      Marion - 2011-11-22 10:46

      @Poloyatonki - I'm wearing black. I do not agree with a loose canon media either, but neither do I believe in a government that silences that media either. Media can be brought to book. The government will be able to classify as it sees fit 'in the interests of state security'. I'm wearing black.

      Omnivore - 2011-11-22 11:09

      I don't think you did hear what he is saying. You either do not understand the bill or are of the opinion that two wrongs make a right.

      Deon - 2011-11-22 14:13

      The Gov. lost the plot.

  • jody.beggs - 2011-11-22 10:18

    Damn the Man , Save South Africa !

  • sb.prins1 - 2011-11-22 10:18

    We have all have to fight against this, some people are saying why should we be caring about the media and freedom to report. Well I dont have the time and money to investigate and find out these stories. I have to work at my job and look aftre my family and we all hope that the government will do the right thing. But we all know that is not happening, I dont think that any of us, would put in the resources to investigate the corruption etc that's going on, it's all of ours fight, we will never know what they do, we will wonder why there is no money, service delivery, all the things that most people are complianing about and the reason will be, non of our business because it's not in the public interest and will be state protected, oh my word, I agree there are some mistakes being made but, a few mistakes out of thousands....we will be the next ZIM and if that happens, I will be gone from this country for sure, the last push

  • godesha - 2011-11-22 10:26

    Did Zuma and his cronies not promise to stamp out corruption? This is how he wants to do it. Just don't tell the people about it, keep them in ignorant bliss because what they don't know can't bother or hurt them. Simple as that.

  • NormanJVisser - 2011-11-22 10:26

    Looking at this another way might make it clearer to those who don't understand what the fuss is about: can you think of anyone you know (who doesn't work for the government) who supports the state's right to keep secrets from the public? In other words, we'll do what we like, when we like, with public money and not have to be held accountable? That is not the democracy that was fought for, it is preying on the uneducated masses- the government works for us, these are servants of the public, they ANSWER to US, the people, fully and unconditionally. We need to know what they are up to, when they start doing their work right we may be able to ease off and let them be, but right now they need some supervision, if 'leadership' isn't going to provide it, the public (paying for ALL their blunders) will have to. This government doesn't care about it's people, it cares about their vote.

  • sefeddt - 2011-11-22 10:29

    How different to the ANCYL protest where threats were made, property damaged and a huge police presence was required.

  • Barbicus247 - 2011-11-22 10:33

    U white folk are always complaing about everything, wat is your problem?? every government in the world even the democracies which are in the lands of your forefathers have such laws, so wat is new abt this? Stop hatting and let the law get passed, certain info is not for public consumption.Like it or not the law will pass.Just incase u thought otherwise welcome to the African South African under the majority rule. Take that!

      Marion - 2011-11-22 11:03

      @Barbicus247 - I'm wearing black. I find it interesting that you and a number of others have made this kind of comment: 'every government in the world even the democracies which are in the lands of your forefathers have such laws'. Someone spoon-feeding you guys? For once the capitalist imperialist racists did something you approve of? I'm wearing black.

      aardvarkie - 2011-11-22 11:10

      @Barbicus247 you are obviously not very well read in international news. I would suggest you start reading up on Occupy Wallstreet, speak to some Americans, you will see how their government have sneaked legislature through senates that strip American people of their sovereignty. This is nothing to do with race, I suggest you take your skin colour issues and shove that energy into reading and understanding the world a little better, because right now you are just proving how ignorant and stupid you really are.

      monkinsane - 2011-11-22 14:09

      You ignorant fool.

  • Bigsexy.jm - 2011-11-22 10:35

    If only the sheep that voted them in could wake up!

  • Kieron - 2011-11-22 10:42

    Freedom of information. The word FREEDOM was put there for a reason. what part of this don't the government understand?

  • Lee - 2011-11-22 10:51

    Sing to the tune of "Black is Black, I want my baby back" Black is black, I want my country back It's grey, it's grey, since our new Government came in play, oh oh What can I do, 'cause I, I'm feelin' used If I had my way, our Government wouldn’t be here today Why give them more time, and leave us to cry again, oh no What can I do, 'cause I, I'm feelin' used I can't choose, it's too much to lose when our love's too strong Maybe if they changed our country would come back to us, then we can't go wrong Bad is bad, that I feel so sad It's time, it's time, that I felt peace of mind, oh oh What can I do, 'cause I, I'm feelin' used.

  • Kevin - 2011-11-22 10:56

    what a terrible government -making a law so that they can steal. Well we will just have to send the info overseas for there newspapers and then we can report the story . The only thing this lot has got right is stealing,theft ,corruption and fraud and allowing thugs with a criminal record to be in parliament. Disgraceful

  • Themba - 2011-11-22 11:10

    you may not like it, but who ever thought to call it "Blacks Tue" is not oviosly black, but againts things from the black govenment..

      Neeus - 2011-11-22 11:28

      tosser, black imply's under the cover of darkness or out of the visible.. why are you so obsessed with you colour???? this is going to result in the banning of all of the Black words in the UK we will now have to support "a lack of reflected light" Burn Rovers... Get a life and stop breeding the world is full...

      Omnivore - 2011-11-22 11:33

      Don't be ignorant. It's an ancient turn of phrase that means dark as in "a dark day". Has nothing to do with skin. When the "Black Plague" ravaged Europe, most Europeans had never even seen "black" people. Most of all, African languages use the same terminology of dark=bad light=good. It has to do with day vs night, seeing vs blindness. Nothing to do with skin, fool.

      NormanJVisser - 2011-11-22 13:54

      OMG. That's more or less the same level of intelligence from which the government operates.

      monkinsane - 2011-11-22 14:06

      Man - You are an idiot - Black as in Dark - For example - It is so dark outside it is almost Pitch Black. Stop making everything about race, moron

  • Neeus - 2011-11-22 11:31

    I have a simple question that I need an answer to... Why is it that people who breed in ignorance and end up in poverty in vast numbers get so much say? I genuinely do not understand, If I educate myself, decide not to have lots of children to allow me to afford a better standard for them and not be a burden on the world, I loose representation as a result?

      Omnivore - 2011-11-22 11:40

      That's what democracy is. Sad but true.

  • monkinsane - 2011-11-22 11:38

    This law passes and there will be nothing we can do to the government legally. If this passes, they can pass other laws with us only finding out about it after it has been passed. Mark my words - if this law gets passed, the only thing we'll be able to do to reign in this power-mad goverment is civil war.

  • Nkanyiso Llewelyn Sosibo-Rowthe - 2011-11-22 11:44

    The ANC changes the laws freely, much the same way they change the memories of the working class people – by adding words, redefining terms, and manipulating the simple minds of the working class ...

  • Bongani - 2011-11-22 11:44

    you said Malema only organized 5000 now lets see how many people will you manage to organize.

      Peter - 2011-11-22 15:41

      we dont use corrupt means to get what we want, Rent a crowd is for people who need to try look good while being bad, we just need the money behind our cause, court cases win, not Bonganies with da big mouth and empty head! whop!

  • Beanaroo - 2011-11-22 11:51

    http://bit.ly/saTPYv Have your say!

  • guy.goes1 - 2011-11-22 14:48

    i made a point to ask random people of all colours if they knew what was happening today regarding the info bill,only 1 out of 15 new, an elderly white woman. makes one think.

  • Transkie Sun - 2011-11-22 20:10

    Communist, Shameful, sickness, uneducated, lying, selfish, blasphemy, no god, poor, disease, greedy, gluttony, anger, lawless, racist, SOUTH AFRICA may god save your sole

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