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COC: ANCYL treading a thin line

2012-08-16 08:41

Johannesburg - The ANC Youth League was treading a thin line between rhetoric and sedition in threatening to make the Western Cape ungovernable, the Centre of Constitutional Rights (COC) said on Wednesday.

"Statements calling for any legitimately and democratically elected government within South Africa to be made 'ungovernable' are irreconcilable with constitutional democracy," the COC said.

"And [it] should not be tolerated as acceptable political discourse in a democracy based on the rule of law."

The COC, part of the FW de Klerk Foundation, said such statements should be condemned and denounced, as those involved undermined fundamental principles of constitutional democracy and were on the wrong side of the law.

Charges of intimidation were laid at a Cape Town police station on August 1 against the ANCYL and others by Western Cape Premier Helen Zille and Cape Town Mayor Patricia de Lille.

This was prompted by a threat to make Cape Town and the province ungovernable.

On July 27, the Dullah Omar region of the African National Congress Youth League delivered a memorandum to the office of the premier on behalf of itself, the ANC, the ANC Women's League, the Cape Amalgamated Taxi Association and the Congress of Democratic Taxi Associations.

Zille said the memorandum contained a threat on the fifth page, which read: "We demand that the above-mentioned demands be positively responded to within seven working days.

"Failure to do so [and] the young people and the above-mentioned stakeholders will make this city and province ungovernable! Amandla!"

Zille's spokesperson Zak Mbhele said at the time the organisations were protesting about a range of issues which included education, the youth wage subsidy, transport and land.

Comments
  • Jason - 2012-08-16 08:51

    This has happened before in the Western Cape! If nothing is done this time it will start an irreversible trend that we will just get used to. This is not acceptable in the 1st world!

      douglas.reid.921 - 2012-08-16 09:02

      We are 3rd world so its ok

      rusted.axe - 2012-08-16 09:12

      This kind of superficial thinking gets boring.

      jackie.stone.501 - 2012-08-16 09:40

      What did Helen do, I don't see her going around addressing the poor, instead she call upon the President Zuma to help, reason been is not election time. I hope people wake and see that woman for who she is. Can't for the reduction of Provinces, now is the perfect time for a change

      irene.buthelezi.1 - 2012-08-16 09:46

      @Jackie ~ Wasn't the plate of stupid you had last night enough? And then you go and have a bowl of it for breakfast too. Shame.

      jackie.stone.501 - 2012-08-16 09:54

      I don't have time brain damaged people like Irene, your comments I will ignore

      michael.a.collins.9659 - 2012-08-16 11:01

      Hey jackie, I think you must get that stone out of your head because it make you think funny, eish.....

      JManAtheoi - 2012-08-16 11:25

      @ Jackie - you should not ignore comments like Irene's, you should rather learn from them.

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-08-16 11:43

      Jackie.stone501. You want Zille to go and do what?. Pray enlighten us with what you mean by 'see that woman for what she is'. Or do you always suck silly statements out your thumb?.

      Desilusionada - 2012-08-16 12:20

      @jackie.stone.501 You who is so clever with your northern ALL BLACK 25 friends from "Kiss my Ass" secondary school is an expert on what is really happening in the Western Cape? Your anti-DA hatred posts without the ability to string a proper sentence together, is clearly showing your ignorance. Your racist posts belong amongst your "non of your business" university cohorts. If you do not like HZ, then do not vote for her. The mainstream DA supporter on this forum do not dismiss others in a cavalier manner, except when the poster is of your calibre. PS. And the use of a spell checker may actually improve your poor grammar as well....

      jackie.stone.501 - 2012-08-16 12:50

      @Desilusionada or Delusionist you got my message loud and clear. @jacqui. how useful is the leader if she is always enjoying coffee in a well ventilated offices while her followers are toytoying

  • koos.vandermerwe.75 - 2012-08-16 08:54

    Someone tell me, why do blacks like to burn and break things. Why are they so happy to throw trash everywhere? I don’t see whites doing it? If it is so bad move. Take this TUT thing, if it is so bad go to another institution. The mine thing, if it is so bad move to another mine. Delivery protests, if it is so bad in your town, move like I have to. Why do you have to burn, break and recently kill. Oh let’s not forget looting. Why are you so happy doing these things? Why if you don’t want to work or study do you insist on stopping others form doing just that by threatening their lives? You cry about your “rights” but what about the rights of others? You look at the whites and cry? Well study like us (without burning something of demanding a free pass), work like us and pay like us and you will find you will carry the stone like us. It ain’t all sunshine and roses.

      darryl.maze1 - 2012-08-16 09:23

      @koos. They were taught by there parents to burn and destroy things. They have no respect to what has been given to them. They dont want to work for anything. They just want want want and expect to just be given to them. They dont understand that nothing is for frre. You gotta work and you gotta pay, but they dont want to.

      jws.paterson - 2012-08-16 09:37

      Jeepers guys, generalise much (koos, darryl and Thabiso)? Way to go and stereotype yourselves. Funny how you'll sledge one another, but you're actually EXACTLY the same type of person... Look at riots and protests everywhere; it's a mob mentality, no a race thing. Seriously, get some perspective...

      Dipzen - 2012-08-16 09:46

      Koos I agree with you on the trashing and looting part. As a black person I'm often stunned by the behavior of people when they are protesting. Its very unnecessary to do all these negative things. Please refrain from saying black people don't want to work and also do you even know why these people are protesting? By the way when these blacks strike and get results of lower fees or higher salaries whites also benefit so please chill a bietjie!@maze So when whites are racist can I also assume that their parents taught them that ?

      ludwe.maclean.3 - 2012-08-16 09:49

      Koos u are really very stupid,look at look all over the world even whites are protesting. its only in south africa were whites dont protst because they dont need too, they already robed us, now the y want us to study like them.....as if we have money like them.....we are the majority with limited resources that why we just need to take land from all you whites stole it from us in the first place without compensation and then we will see who will protest now...

      hsebolelo - 2012-08-16 09:56

      Its not a black thing\r\n...D Riots in Britain \r\n...Its everywhr\r\n *youtube- Riots\r\n..By the way, U cnt liv ur job bcos the conditions dnt suits U..\r\n Are the condition is south africa suitable..thn Y r we not leavin..

      hsebolelo - 2012-08-16 10:01

      If its bad in ur town, move to anada One*\r\n Nxt tym some S-hole complains bwt crime n sh*t...U must tell em to move to Nethaland

      koos.vandermerwe.75 - 2012-08-16 10:01

      I like it when some people think whites got everything on a silver platter. For you who think I did .. well I didn’t. Me and my mom was poor. We didn’t have much. One and a half bedroom flat and even less in the fridge and no there was no grants for my mom. I worked while in school doing yard work, washing cars, painting and mowing lawns. After school I sold cell phones and waited (when I could) while studying after hours. I got my qualifications after 4 years and not once did I kill anyone, burn anything or stop anyone form working/studying. No I can give all who sit back and say “you got everything” a hardy F-U! If I could do it why can’t you. I never got anything for free. You want pity? You want respect? This life doesn’t owe you anything and all I hear are excuses.

      Dipzen - 2012-08-16 10:12

      Ag please man your situation can't apply to everyone! You forget that people are not the same. Who knows how your life would have turned out had you lived in a township.

      michael.vanrheenen.9 - 2012-08-16 10:12

      Hear hear Koos... WTF is wrong with our black community??? They just want want want and blame the whites for everything. They could not get it right in the past almost 20 years!!! And just so by the way hsebolelo... The whites traded with the Zulus for the land! We did not steal anything. What you and your government is doing is stealing from the whites!!! GFU!!!!

      koos.vandermerwe.75 - 2012-08-16 10:34

      @Dipzen: Maybe I should also add that I had a little brother as well. Today the people in shacks get way more than we did. My mom worked for peanuts and barely lived. My situation can’t apply to anyone? Why not? Why can’t anyone get up and do something? I did, why can’t you? What makes you so special to demand everything for free? Today you have all the advantages, all the benefits and all the grants. This “stolen land”, free this and free that makes me want to vomit. I don’t own land and I don’t get or want anything for free so cry me a river. The fact is those who are sitting there demanding don’t want help they want everything for free BUT there is no such thing as for free. To have something for free it much first be taken from someone else. Now tell me, why should I work and invest in South Africa if I know my efforts is just being wasted? You say I must go, yes I will eventually. You don’t need to tell me I don’t belong here, I know this already. P.S. If I grew up in a township I’d probably be 100 times more well of then I am now.

      Dipzen - 2012-08-16 10:53

      Didn't you get the part where I said we are not the same? That is why your situation can't apply to everyone. A grant of how much? You're clearly not informed on who gets these grants ne? Do you even know? You had a fridge? With that I can assume you had electricity. Most people in townships don't have a fridge. Electricity is also another issue especially since when load shedding happens they are the first to get their electricity turned off. You probably never had to use your wages for transport as would be the case with a person living in the township. With transport being expensive how much money would that person have after subtracting money for essentials. I know people who have made it through these circumstances but they are not many. Luck also plays a big part in this. You would probably be stuck in a dead end job still feeding your lil brother and mother!

      Dipzen - 2012-08-16 10:53

      Didn't you get the part where I said we are not the same? That is why your situation can't apply to everyone. A grant of how much? You're clearly not informed on who gets these grants ne? Do you even know? You had a fridge? With that I can assume you had electricity. Most people in townships don't have a fridge. Electricity is also another issue especially since when load shedding happens they are the first to get their electricity turned off. You probably never had to use your wages for transport as would be the case with a person living in the township. With transport being expensive how much money would that person have after subtracting money for essentials. I know people who have made it through these circumstances but they are not many. Luck also plays a big part in this. You would probably be stuck in a dead end job still feeding your lil brother and mother!

      Dipzen - 2012-08-16 10:54

      Didn't you get the part where I said we are not the same? That is why your situation can't apply to everyone. A grant of how much? You're clearly not informed on who gets these grants ne? Do you even know? You had a fridge? With that I can assume you had electricity. Most people in townships don't have a fridge. Electricity is also another issue especially since when load shedding happens they are the first to get their electricity turned off. You probably never had to use your wages for transport as would be the case with a person living in the township. With transport being expensive how much money would that person have after subtracting money for essentials. I know people who have made it through these circumstances but they are not many. Luck also plays a big part in this. You would probably be stuck in a dead end job still feeding your lil brother and mother!

      koos.vandermerwe.75 - 2012-08-16 11:14

      @Dipzen: Listen a bit to what you are saying. We are not the same? Even with a dead-end job (I did that) I still studied (played my way) and got my qualification. What does that mean? Me who had nothing, is not wanted and the odds are against me (by law) make something of myself yet others with all the advantages today can’t or won’t? Hehehe you think it is easy being white in today’s South Africa? You think all whites come into this life with 10 mil in the bank and 3 farms just waiting for them? You think all whites just have it easy? Please, once again, cry me a river. More excuses. You work for what you want, that I can respect otherwise you won’t find any pity in this white man’s eyes. P.S. Like I said, I did the dead-end job and got qualified and even paid for my brother to further his education so that he did not have to suffer like I did and yes, my mom is enjoying her time at home now.

      lorain.maseko - 2012-08-16 11:34

      yes koos you dont see whites doing it coz you have always led a protected life,never had to fight ofr anything at all and got jobs by virtue of your colour so why would you do it?

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-08-16 11:45

      Thabiso.nkosi73. I hope you didn't attend varsity, for if you did that institution should close it's doors today.

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-08-16 11:48

      Lorain maseko. I can't disagree with you on that one.

      Klaus - 2012-08-16 12:08

      @thabiso,no i never went to varsity, my single mother could not afford it. Nevertheless i have made it through live, I don't own anything to anybody, furthermore i have been paying Rates & Taxes in RSA since 1968, every month, without fail, first to the rocks, now to the communists, its a done thing, because if you use it you have to pay for it! And guess what: we are not getting anything back, in any form or way.

      koos.vandermerwe.75 - 2012-08-16 12:36

      @lorain.maseko: You think it was easy, you think I was protected... you think all whites are “protected” ABSOLUTE RUBBISH! Even after I got my qualification I didn’t have a job till a year later. I worked for 6 months for free. After that I had to see blacks get jobs that I was more qualified to do but you know what, I didn’t just sit, I moved. I’d love to tell you what happened each time after moved but that is another story. I will not let anyone tell me what I’m worth. I know what I’m worth and I don’t need laws or legislation to prove that, I WORKED FOR IT. P.S. Ironically enough I’m in a position where I have to turn qualified white applicants away in favor of predominantly inferior (YES YOU READ RIGHT AND I CAN PROVE IT) applicants so please don’t tell me how easy whites have it.

      Dipzen - 2012-08-16 12:41

      Koos your problem is you want to characterize other people based on your life experiences and personal attributes. I'm not saying that you didn't work hard for money and your qualifications what I'm saying is that your situation is different from many south africans particularly the previously disadvantaged. They may face more barriers and challenges than you faced so in that sense they may have a much more to deal with. If everyone were like bill gates we'd all be living the good life but its not like that because we are not the same. And by the way this is not an excuse its a fact!

      lorain.maseko - 2012-08-16 12:54

      Koos do not talk rubbish that you were not protected,was there a law that told you that du to your skin colour you could only get inferior education coz all you would be worth was being a gardener? No you didnt ALL this hard work you claim to have put it well guess what you where afforded the opportunity to prove yourself,you were not told that you were inferior by virtue of your skin colour and I'm glad that you have to turn away whiotes in favour of what you call inferior black applicants,because you were brought up and pre programmed to think that blacks are inferior in it wasnt the law and was left at your discretion no black person would be in the corporate world,regardless of how qualified they are

      michael.vanrheenen.9 - 2012-08-16 13:14

      @ lorain.maseko - Why was the pass rate in schools decreased so much that your matric is basically useless overseas since the end of apartheid? Why? Ask yourself that question. You only need 33% to pass a subject... Think about it. 33%??? So you basically need to know a third of the whole facts to be qualified! Yet, we still have pupils failing!!! Why was this done?

      koos.vandermerwe.75 - 2012-08-16 13:19

      You assume I got my qualifications before 94? You wrong again. When I started the class consisted of 55 students. Only 5 completed the qualification. I was not protected in the new South Africa, I’m the one disadvantaged! Yes I didn’t sit on my fat ass and do nothing except demand. I’m also not programmed to think black applicants are inferior. We have tests that decide that but whites get invited as mere tokens (as per black policies). Now we appoint people into positions that score way way way below average. Yet people wonder why everything is going down the drain. “you were inferior by virtue of your skin colour”? You sure, I didn’t get promotions or position exactly because of that “skin colour” but I didn’t stop nor did I just go and sit on a pile. No no no, you can think what you like but you are wrong and people like me who WORKED for what we have will look you in the eye everyday proudly even if it is just to remind you that you can’t keep us down. @ Dipzen: All the time we hear “we are all the same” yet here you are saying we not and I agree with you. Now how would it work is every working person decided that it’s not worth working because your money is just being taken and thrown into a bottomless pit? So now we all can happily sit, burn, break, demand and so on together.

      Dipzen - 2012-08-16 13:55

      Lol now you're just arguing outside the contents of our discussion! Like I said we are not the same personally, spiritually and genetic make up in terms of looks, physical strength! Don't be foolish the same fact that says we are not the same allows others to triumph against the odds and others to fail. We can't all be successful just remember that. Success and failure go hand in hand the difference is how the person decides to deal with either and my friend therein lies the difference but remember a lot of other factors count as well like how we are brought up the environment we are brought up in. Too many factors to mention therefore there can only be one koos in the world because no one in the world has gone through the same situation at the same time with the same people as you around them like you! So stop being so judgmental of black people cause you don't know many of their situation you comment based on what you read on from your little interaction with even the few black people that you know. That is why I'm not judging your situation of what you've been through I'm just merely pointing out that just because you made it doesn't mean everyone else will

      Dipzen - 2012-08-16 13:57

      Lol now you're just arguing outside the contents of our discussion! Like I said we are not the same personally, spiritually and genetic make up in terms of looks, physical strength! Don't be foolish the same fact that says we are not the same allows others to triumph against the odds and others to fail. We can't all be successful just remember that. Success and failure go hand in hand the difference is how the person decides to deal with either and my friend therein lies the difference but remember a lot of other factors count as well like how we are brought up the environment we are brought up in. Too many factors to mention therefore there can only be one koos in the world because no one in the world has gone through the same situation at the same time with the same people as you around them like you! So stop being so judgmental of black people cause you don't know many of their situation you comment based on what you read on from your little interaction with even the few black people that you know. That is why I'm not judging your situation of what you've been through I'm just merely pointing out that just because you made it doesn't mean everyone else will

      Dipzen - 2012-08-16 13:58

      Lol now you're just arguing outside the contents of our discussion! Like I said we are not the same personally, spiritually and genetic make up in terms of looks, physical strength! Don't be foolish the same fact that says we are not the same allows others to triumph against the odds and others to fail. We can't all be successful just remember that. Success and failure go hand in hand the difference is how the person decides to deal with either and my friend therein lies the difference but remember a lot of other factors count as well like how we are brought up the environment we are brought up in. Too many factors to mention therefore there can only be one koos in the world because no one in the world has gone through the same situation at the same time with the same people as you around them like you! So stop being so judgmental of black people cause you don't know many of their situation you comment based on what you read on from your little interaction with even the few black people that you know. That is why I'm not judging your situation of what you've been through I'm just merely pointing out that just because you made it doesn't mean everyone else will

      koos.vandermerwe.75 - 2012-08-16 13:59

      @Dipzen: Applogies. I’m very annoyed at some of these comments and yeah I’m a little distracted from the point. Perhaps I don’t understand cause I was never one to just sit and let my circumstances get the better of me. I don’t understand why if you want to strike why am I not allowed to go to work. If you want to strike at TUT why do you stop me from going to class? And this is worth killing over?!?! You are almost rite about the blacks I know. Most of them drive big SUV’s, mercs and BMW’s. Their pays make mine look like a tip and their egos are only matched by the sizes of their houses. Yet ironically enough they need me. A white boy but the rest must be black qualified, capable or not and long as it is black. The rest demand, break, burn and kill while those caught in the middle is powerless to do anything about it. Unfortunately this whole mindset is killing this country and the cANCers know it. Just keep an eye on the n4 and what is happening in Mozambique. Smart money invest in Mozambique. Why you ask, just look around. The same people demanding everything is going to kill themselves. They will go hungry by their own hand. To work is not a right, it is a privilege. The cANCers created this welfare state and the foundations where build on unachievable lies. It will break and I will be gone.

      lorain.maseko - 2012-08-16 14:13

      Koos truth of the matter is no matter how you try to sugar coat things you people have always had it easier whether you want to admit it or not is up to you. you had certain opportunities that were afforded to you only simply because of your colour,your government (verwored0 made sure that black schools and the cirriculum were designed in such a way that there would be no chance of a black child being able to stand against a white child, you really think you are a victim? really? You have no idea., it's just hard for you to get used to the fact that you are no longer baas

      koos.vandermerwe.75 - 2012-08-16 14:30

      @lorain.maseko: You know Lorain you can think what you like. I have grown despite being sidelined. I have achieved where the laws of this country wanted me to fail. I am stronger now. I'm building other entities and expanding my horizons. I have done it, me, no one else (Not Verwoerd, not you and definitely not Zuma) and I am doing it via hard work and dedication. I will teach my children that to achieve takes hard work and dedication nothing more nothing less. You want to make excuses, you want to sit and complain and live of handouts... well that is your rite. The thing is that what is for free is not appreciated and what is not worked for has no value and is squandered. Your reprieve is temporary.

      koos.vandermerwe.75 - 2012-08-16 14:34

      @@lorain.maseko: P.S. Once again you are mistake. I am still BAAS (and appreciated as that) just not in this country.

      Dipzen - 2012-08-16 14:41

      Koos since you and Lorain have been arguing this whole BEE/AA thing what would you suggest the government do address the past injustices if you don't mind me asking?

      koos.vandermerwe.75 - 2012-08-16 14:53

      @Dipzen: Before I answer you tell me, what injustices where done to you personally? How are you disadvantaged today?

      Dipzen - 2012-08-16 16:08

      Me personally? Nothing ! But my parents and my parents a lot! They had to go through the whole system of apartheid. I don't think I have to explain any further. This obviously impacted on my upbringing and the environment was predestined not by my parents by the old government. My parents couldn't afford a lot of things because they where forced to do mediocre jobs with mediocre salaries.

      krish.reddy.104 - 2012-08-17 11:36

      Because Blacks are not ready to govern. Period.

  • douglas.reid.921 - 2012-08-16 09:05

    Ancyl starting their own struggle. Any clever government would outlaw them, ours will just do nothing hoping they will implode.

  • rusted.axe - 2012-08-16 09:09

    Its easy. When you grow up without access to anything of value and raised by parents deprived of access to anything of value and the only value you can imagine to aspire to is trapped in the hands of others, you may hate material symbols of value. Or have no sense of it. Either way, its easy to see HOW destruction becomes the only accessible way for someone whose every experience in life holds no value.

      rusted.axe - 2012-08-16 09:10

      Last sentence continued. "How destruction, becomes the only accessible expression of power".

      mofstok - 2012-08-16 09:38

      That may explain an aspect of the problem, it does not explain that why, after nearly 20 years of ANC rule, our economy has been shot to pieces by the government and yet the DA are blamed? Their behaviour is unacceptable. Break them, crush them, force them to obey law and order. No mercy.

  • stompie.mcgwapspap - 2012-08-16 09:10

    The ANcYL Is nothing but troops for the bigger BOdy. (ANC)

      jackie.stone.501 - 2012-08-16 09:52

      DA Leaders does not care about anyone but themselves, what have the done to prevent or address. Why am I not seeing them on the ground addressing the masses.

      devon.riley.52 - 2012-08-16 10:37

      Well Patricia did try, but the meeting was disrupted by ancyl members behaving like animals."DA Leaders does not care about anyone but themselves". How is that different to ANC leaders?

      Desilusionada - 2012-08-16 12:21

      @jackie.stone.501 Let me repeat my previous so that perhaps you can get the message... You who is so clever with your northern ALL BLACK 25 friends from "Kiss my Ass" secondary school is an expert on what is really happening in the Western Cape? Your anti-DA hatred posts without the ability to string a proper sentence together, is clearly showing your ignorance. Your racist posts belong amongst your "non of your business" university cohorts. If you do not like HZ, then do not vote for her. The mainstream DA supporter on this forum do not dismiss others in a cavalier manner, except when the poster is of your calibre. PS. And the use of a spell checker may actually improve your poor grammar as well....

      jackie.stone.501 - 2012-08-16 12:54

      @Desilusionada - are you aware that you are doing lots of copy and paste, well I hope you did not really notice.

  • natasha.sturdy1 - 2012-08-16 09:19

    They want everything 4 free and more. Why isnt Zuma doing anything? Do they think the anc can do a better job? I dont think so, they will be worse of.

  • jempeter - 2012-08-16 09:22

    Declare a stae of emergency. Impose curfews and bring the army in. That would sort it out. Unfortunately the national government would never allow it as it is in their intersts to allow the mayhem to continue.

      natasha.sturdy1 - 2012-08-16 09:31

      I totally agree. The cant get their way, break everything down.

  • AyGeewils - 2012-08-16 09:27

    As incomprehensible as it may seem - the mind-set of the ANCYL is megalomaniacal. They are a terrorist organisation with no aim but to take over every inch of this country and remove all but black African people from SA.

      AyGeewils - 2012-08-16 09:40

      This is not - as many may suppose - a new strategy, alas this has always been their agenda along with the ANC itself. The settlement agreed with de Klerk was a compromise - thus the 'struggle' still continues ...

  • jackie.stone.501 - 2012-08-16 09:33

    When is the next election coming, I think it is time for change of leadership. People must be so very disappointed with the service delivery including the leadership, if the revolt against the very same people they voted in power, it show their leaders don't care about them but only care when is near the election time

      burningdogz - 2012-08-16 11:12

      You are absolutely correct Jackie! I agree that in every Province where there were service delivery protest there should be a change in leadership. So that means the ANC gets Cape Town, and the DA gets...well, the rest of South Africa.

      Desilusionada - 2012-08-16 12:21

      @jackie.stone.501 Let me repeat my previous so that perhaps you can get the message... You who is so clever with your northern ALL BLACK 25 friends from "Kiss my Ass" secondary school is an expert on what is really happening in the Western Cape? Your anti-DA hatred posts without the ability to string a proper sentence together, is clearly showing your ignorance. Your racist posts belong amongst your "non of your business" university cohorts. If you do not like HZ, then do not vote for her. The mainstream DA supporter on this forum do not dismiss others in a cavalier manner, except when the poster is of your calibre. PS. And the use of a spell checker may actually improve your poor grammar as well....

  • pws69 - 2012-08-16 09:38

    This is the same as what the Boeremag criminals were planning, so the charge should be the same - Treason. Charge them now.

  • mzukisijola.jose1 - 2012-08-16 10:07

    They only make khayelitsha angovernable ,as a result 3lives were lost including the 20months old babe ,what kind of people can do that to their own people ,I support zille

  • ludwe.maclean.3 - 2012-08-16 10:20

    I was never really a big julias malema fan, i always thought that his doings will undo the good that was already done by previous leaders in reconciling S.A as a Rainbow nation,But after i"ve read the comment's from whites in S.A on this page...I'm actually very disappointed and they just changed my whole perception of land redistribution...JuJu is right we should just take the land with out any compensation and then we will see who will be striking and trowing rubbish and burning stuff on the streets...u guys dont appreciate anything done by our previous leaders in making sure white and blacks leave in harmony now u have the balls to disrespect blacks in their own country...we never immigrated from dutch land we born here generation and generations and we will take the land back one way or another so just keep talking...whites are vulnerable and most of us know it so count your blessings....cause u"re future in S.A is in BLACK Hands

      AyGeewils - 2012-08-16 10:35

      My future and yours are in our own hands - you are not going to benefit one iota from what this government or the ANCYL is proposing. Look all over the world - people leave the country of their birth and migrate to safer and more prosperous countries - this is the stuff of nearly every nation on earth - what's the point of supporting an organisation and mind-set that ultimately offers you a desert? Go to London and see how many black Africans are there making a better life for themselves - should they too be driven back to the mess they came from?

      koos.vandermerwe.75 - 2012-08-16 10:38

      I have no doubt that eventually you will get you wish and everything else that comes with it.

      el.torro.509 - 2012-08-16 10:57

      Ludwe, where to start! Firstly this is not YOUR land its our land, your generations argument stinks, many white ppl here actually have african dna as when the settlers arrived they took khoi and slave women and made kids, FW de klerk has a khoi ancestor, so is that not generations also? Taking it further everyone has an african ancestor does this make 7 million people eligible for land? What you should also note is that most white people don't own anyland, agriculture is 2 percent of gdp, go ahead and take it but then there will be no food and no jobs either. The whites are not your enemy the anc and ancyl are as they are the ones stalling the economy!

      JManAtheoi - 2012-08-16 11:30

      @ ludwe - it is people like you that cannot think FURTHER than what was done and said years ago etc, that hamper positive change. You are all STUCK in the past, and will remain so with that primitive attitude. Stop living in the past and look for constructive ways to better your future. But according to your comment, you will remain on the streets throwing stones and burning down buses etc, because you are not willing to learn how to change for the better.

      jackie.stone.501 - 2012-08-16 12:58

      Ludwe spot on comrade, is time to campaign for land repossession without compensation, because until we get our land back we can never see economic freedom in our lifetime

  • jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-08-16 11:40

    ANCYL has the full backing of the ANC in what they are doing. Why should they be bothered?

  • musa.abrahams - 2012-08-16 12:05

    @ludwe.maclean.3 , hsebolelo and thabiso.nkosi.73 Keep your bek, you talking through your hol as usual. You only think as far as you nose and what the ANC brainwashes you with. Oppressor? You people are your OWN oppressor. Suck-deep

  • musa.abrahams - 2012-08-16 12:28

    BTW. For those who say the whites must go back to Europe, Zulu and xhosa are not even from SA, you from Zim and Bots and further north. SA belongs to the khoi.

  • gerhard.kress.3 - 2012-08-16 13:13

    The ANCYL needs to be declared an illegal organisation.

  • shilulu - 2012-08-16 16:44

    politician and nappies should be changed often for the same reason

  • amelia.basson - 2012-08-16 16:48

    Don't protest & riot & destroy ... if you also want what the DA gives us in the Western Cape just V O T E !!!

  • krish.reddy.104 - 2012-08-17 11:33

    Can you beat it. We are all looking for better services and yet these morons want to make Western Cape unforgivenable. Cape Town is the best run city in SA. Our Government should learn from this and they are keeping quiet about the youth leagues utterances. watch this will come back to haunt them.

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