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Chabane to lead Marikana committee

2012-08-19 17:00

Johannesburg - The inter-ministerial committee to co-ordinate support for families and relatives of the Marikana mine shooting, will be lead by the minister in the presidency, Collins Chabane.

Other committee members are North West Premier Thandi Modise and the ministers of mineral resources Susan Shabangu, police Nathi Mthethwa, social development Bathabile Dlamini, co-operative governance Richard Baloyi, labour Mildred Oliphant, defence and military veterans Nosiviwe Mapisa-Nqakula, health Aaron Motsoaledi, state security Siyabonga Cwele, and home affairs Nkosazana Dlamini-Zuma.

The presidency said the committee would visit Marikana on Monday.

"They will co-ordinate and lead all support to families and relatives including the identification of family members, counselling and burials."

The terms of reference and members of a separate judicial commission of inquiry would be announced in a few days, presidency spokesperson Mac Maharaj said in a statement.

In addition, President Jacob Zuma declared the week starting on Monday a period of mourning for the 44 people, including two police officers and 34 mineworkers, killed in violence at Lonmin's Marikana mine.

It is also for the eight members of the community-based anti-stock theft group called Isikebhe, who were ambushed and killed in Pomeroy near Msinga in KwaZulu-Natal.

From August 20 to 26 flags would fly at half mast at all flag stations in South Africa and missions outside the country.

On Thursday, August 23, memorial services would be held around the country.

"We must avoid finger-pointing and recrimination. We must unite against violence from whatever quarter. We must reaffirm our belief in peace, stability and order and in building a caring society free of crime and violence," the presidency said.

*Sapa earlier incorrectly referred to the committee as an inter-ministerial commission of inquiry. 

Comments
  • larry.piggott1 - 2012-08-19 17:07

    So! we will only find out what the ANC wants to find out?

      squeegee.pilot - 2012-08-19 17:11

      I suppose that if the results are embarrassing we will never see the results...

      Rabbler.Rouser - 2012-08-19 18:08

      Inevitably it will all be Verwoerd's fault again. The ANC will render themselves blameless.

      claudia.meads - 2012-08-19 18:17

      This reads like Dumb and Dumber... Collins Chabane, an aircraft mechanic and Minister in the Presidency for Performance Monitoring and Evaluation who cannot meet his own deadlines. He who told ministers they do not have to worry if they do not perform - they will not get fired. Iow Chabane, the Minister of Performance Monitoring, who can neither 'perform' or 'monitor' is to lead one of the most critical enquiries in SA's post '94 history - should we have expected less from the ANC..? He is simply leading an "All Black Team" to tell the fascist regime what it wants to hear. My advice: get out of SA asap - even if you just emigrate to Botswana or Namibia - GET OUT!

      ReneMuller.XOXO - 2012-08-19 18:18

      I don't see the need for an 'Inquiry' - it's simple really! The union leaders made unrealistic promises to the workers and told them to 'fight' for a 300% increase. The workers attacked the SAPS, the workers paid dearly. End of story.

  • Rodney - 2012-08-19 17:08

    i don't trust tht man Chabane is a closed alie of RAMAPOSA. We need independant inguiry. Not what zuma said.

      floyd.oupa - 2012-08-19 17:16

      Mxxm! This must be some sick joke. These guys think people are idiots. That's a self seving commission by all accounts. It should not only be independednt but also be led by a retired judge pereferrebly, otherwise there really is no point.

  • kim.buren - 2012-08-19 17:13

    Oh please go to Marikana on Monday. Leave your bodyguards at home and lets see who runs for the hills. SAP will not be there to protect you as you do your pathetic investigation.

      grootrot.vanzyl - 2012-08-19 18:18

      Kim, where is oom Kriel so by the way? The question is why not a juidicial enquiry? And then in the mean time, I think it is great that the mentioned people are actually given some work to do.

      goyougoodthing - 2012-08-19 19:37

      It sounds like the very same thing I saw in 1985 in Durban. People 'marched' and led with school children, behind them were men with pangas. The media took photos of the kids and not of the real crowd... I was in the country at the time, I was young,I remember seeing the press take shoes and place them in the road for a a good photo... same again different government

  • scouter.fourone - 2012-08-19 17:17

    Two Police Officers were butchered here and robbed of their weapons - it's not all about 34 miners(who clearly entertained murderous intent)and who were quite justifiably stopped in their tracks by the Police. If I am not much mistaken the ANC itself, has a bill on the go to authorise lethal force under such circumstances.

  • Stewart Croucamp - 2012-08-19 17:18

    Okay now we know who the clowns are that will be running the circus.

  • lacrimose.wolf - 2012-08-19 17:19

    Well this is what the ANC excels at - papering over the cracks. Just ONCE I'd like to hear about preventative action being taken instead of always always letting things get beyond a crisis.

  • stanton.clarke - 2012-08-19 17:24

    And when are the murders of the 10 people who died at the hands of these thugs going to be investigated?

  • charnelle.bester - 2012-08-19 17:28

    Why not the public protector? What happens in the ANC, stays in the ANC.

  • WantrisPkc - 2012-08-19 17:32

    And farm murder goes on and on and no inquiry, etc....

  • jimzimbo - 2012-08-19 17:40

    Remember SAA Hidelberg....the arms deal, and many more "unsolved" commission's of enquiry's this will go the same way, governments are rotten to the core. This is simply an aviodence exercise and buys unlimited time for the incompetent corrupt anc and union "officials"

      fanie.gerber1972 - 2012-08-19 17:57

      SAL Helderberg

  • lucky.luck.98 - 2012-08-19 17:47

    The question must be asked,who gave instruction to disarm them,they were many ways of getting those weapon back,besides provoking the proveked mine workers.who was in command of TRT who deployed them to deal with that kind of situation who train them how long, who start that unit?are they mature enogh to deal with the crowd?where are old riots police who normal deal with the crowd then the two top unit to assist them on tactical side.

  • patrick.saunders123 - 2012-08-19 17:51

    why not save time and just blame apartheid. That's what the commission is going to do anyway.

      marcdefl - 2012-08-19 18:24

      Idiot

      boltonbarry - 2012-08-19 21:41

      marcel you are the idiot. His comment was a tongue in cheek one

      keith.roberts.98434 - 2012-08-20 08:39

      But pertinent nevertheless, bolton.

  • crracker.crackerr - 2012-08-19 17:58

    "The terms of reference and members of a separate, judicial commission of inquiry, would be announced in a few days, presidency spokesperson Mac Maharaj said in a statement." The actual enquiry will apparently not be the one the news item is about. Anyway, the visuals of the charging of police by armed (SERIOUSLY armed) thugs are available for public viewing. Go to Youtube. For once the benefit of a free media should be clear to the ANC and every other political grouping in this country. The police had NO choice. So let's resist and stop the propaganda right now that the police are to blame.

      lsfreak - 2012-08-19 21:50

      Let me get this straight Cracker... He someone throws teargas at you and some of your buddies, you gonna just stand there and take it :/ Me thinks you are also gonna run to get away. So I'm so sorry for that the picture is so blurred ;'(

  • Lesetja Sema - 2012-08-19 18:00

    what a joke!

  • mantsho.tlali - 2012-08-19 18:12

    ALL this people l dont trust them.Who will be doing their jobs when they are bysy going up and down.

      keith.roberts.98434 - 2012-08-20 08:42

      Do they do anything when they are not busy going up and down?

  • zolisa.dlokovu - 2012-08-19 18:16

    Why Zuma doesnt appoint a retired judge? I cant believe that the man has decided to appoint members of his cabinet. He is insulting our intelligence. We dont have a president in this country. I wonder what will be the findings of this ANC commission

  • nico.loubser.9 - 2012-08-19 18:16

    I see another public holiday coming up. Whoopee.

      ratsaka.eugene - 2012-08-19 18:44

      Of all the stupidest comments that I've seen, this one takes the cake, and you get thumbs-up for it. Shows how stupid some of you people are, herre tog.

      marius.koen.16 - 2012-08-19 19:27

      Rhino, go and play with yourself.

  • marcdefl - 2012-08-19 18:23

    You people are pathetically paranoid and anti ANC.I am not a fan of Zuma or his idiot Lieutenant Mantashe (who hasnt said a word). But this is clearly no fault of the ANC - A Roque union and opportunist clowns like Malema are involved. Its so easy to critise the police but after 10 people had already been killed and angry uneducated armed thugs advance on you - tradgedy happens. Too many stupid psychotic people in this country. Wake up white SA and stop blaming everything on the ANC and do your bit to build your country.

      dnxumalo2 - 2012-08-19 18:36

      whos the you people you are refering to.i for one havent said anything about the ANC

  • dnxumalo2 - 2012-08-19 18:30

    words of wisdom work better with actions of wisdom.we have heard all the words now lets see if actions do exist.

  • fort.horseman.7 - 2012-08-19 18:45

    Charge Bheki cele for crimes against humanity for his ignorant 'shoot to kill' policy which inspired the trigger happy mentality of the police,reminisant of the old daysHe was da biggest criminal disguisd as a 'general'.

      crracker.crackerr - 2012-08-19 19:21

      We saw the visuals.

  • Alfjoe - 2012-08-19 19:04

    I thought an inquiry waz going to be done by an independant body nt pple frm the govt, eish, i waz wrong

  • maokeng.mankge - 2012-08-19 19:10

    Its a waste of tax payers money just get rid of dat no hair women n water cannon minister..

  • mandilakhe.nompehle - 2012-08-19 19:26

    Mxm akho kwanto ezokwenzeka apho.... Bazochithelana nge Ice cream ne coffee abo....

  • willie.dique - 2012-08-19 19:29

    We will never see the real results!!!! Why is there a white policeman in the pic of this article???????

      Thanduxolo Galada - 2012-08-19 23:51

      Go jerk off! Wanker!

  • rivalani.mabasa - 2012-08-19 19:35

    Joke of the year. Who will be doing their works in their offices?

  • zwelethu.sabasaba - 2012-08-19 19:37

    Naspers has to pay 40% of their advertising revenue from news24.com to help people affected by the Marikana protest. There is more unique visitors attracted by the news, which means they made a lot of money.

  • Tim Elliott - 2012-08-19 19:39

    Where is the 'Independence' in this bunch?Is Chabane not the same guy supposed to be 'monitoring' performance of Govt Depts who serially underperform with zero sanction?This lack of leadership and accountability is disgraceful.

      Thanduxolo Galada - 2012-08-19 23:50

      Agreed Tim!

  • tyrhabee - 2012-08-19 19:40

    The ANC as a ruling party cannot be seen to head a commission of enquiry into the killings of both striking workers by one another and by police and the killing of police by civilians. Both parties are at fault because only God gives life, and man is accountable to God fir taking another man's life. It is for this reason that a retired judge would be best suited for this position to apply the constitutionality of the events and give recommendations that are not biased. \r\n\r\nThe manner in which our South African workforce behaves itself during protests leaves more question unanswered regarding safety for non-striking workers and peace officers. The carrying of dangerous weapons and heavy ammunition declares violence rather than collective bargaining as promoted by our constitution and labour regulations.\r\n\r\nThis unfortunate incident is an eye opener to the dire straights the workforce is under, and a call to close the gap that exists between the haves and the have nots. Lastly, the police are the to protect the citizens and if they will be shot at and killed by illegal firearms, then I have a very big problem. A demonstration should not be allowed to carry dangerous weapons as it lives bitter memories.

  • tyrhabee - 2012-08-19 19:41

    The ANC as a ruling party cannot be seen to head a commission of enquiry into the killings of both striking workers by one another and by police and the killing of police by civilians. Both parties are at fault because only God gives life, and man is accountable to God fir taking another man's life. It is for this reason that a retired judge would be best suited for this position to apply the constitutionality of the events and give recommendations that are not biased. \r\n\r\nThe manner in which our South African workforce behaves itself during protests leaves more question unanswered regarding safety for non-striking workers and peace officers. The carrying of dangerous weapons and heavy ammunition declares violence rather than collective bargaining as promoted by our constitution and labour regulations.\r\n\r\nThis unfortunate incident is an eye opener to the dire straights the workforce is under, and a call to close the gap that exists between the haves and the have nots. Lastly, the police are the to protect the citizens and if they will be shot at and killed by illegal firearms, then I have a very big problem. A demonstration should not be allowed to carry dangerous weapons as it lives bitter memories.

  • christopher.cochrane.927 - 2012-08-19 21:46

    I dont want anything to do with this government. The way they think is just not compatible in a democracy. If the government of the Western Cape was in power this would not have happened. I wish the Cape would seccede from this country that is made up of tribes from diffeent regions of southern Africa. http://capeinsight.com/2012/08/19/182/

  • huna.hr - 2012-08-19 21:51

    All idiots again? They'll protect each other,and try to convince the workers to go back to work and defend Spear Man(ZUMA) and Ramaphosa,since MR Malema exposed them,Zuma is a loser and he must Step Down

  • david.thulani.98 - 2012-08-19 22:09

    plz allow inqury to take it cost ,no blaming ,pointing etc

  • gandanga.tororo - 2012-08-20 07:14

    Just wondering why ministers should investigate themselves: nathi mthethwa, siyabonga cwele, susan shabangu; are they not directly involved? What can they achieve now! yet they left the situation go out of hand under their guard?

      Brad - 2012-08-20 07:23

      So they can apply their minds and find a way to cover this up. The most likely answer to come out of this is to once again blame APARTEID. As they do every thing else.

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