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Cosatu isn't ANC's lapdog - Vavi

2012-03-12 10:23

Cape Town - Trade union federation Cosatu will not be silent even if the ANC demands it, Cosatu general secretary Zwelinzima Vavi said in Cape Town over the weekend.

Vavi was addressing delegates at clothing industry trade union Sactwu's bargaining conference, Beeld reported.

"Cosatu is nobody's lapdog. We won't listen if they attempt to tell us when to bark, or they tell us to stop barking because they're having a conference later on in the year," he said - referring to the ANC's June policy conference, and also the leadership conference in Mangaung, Bloemfontein, schedule for December this year.

The political challenges faced by Cosatu made it clear that he had to raise his voice significantly, because Cosatu did not exist "to massage the government and assure them of our undying love," Vavi said.

Cosatu was "predictable", and there was never a "pre-conference period where people pretended to be nice and pleasant, and then a post-conference period where the organisation was lazy and useless," he told delegates.

Comments
  • clivecorbz - 2012-03-12 10:33

    COSATU is no body's lapdog... I wonder how they view their blinkered support then?

      Joanne - 2012-03-12 10:53

      They are certainly not serving any of their members who DON'T belong to the ANC. It's a fervent hope that they are honest enough to not take Union dues from workers who vote for other parties - it would only be fair. If they are unwilling to stand with any other party on important issues, then they certainly belong to the ANC.

      Andrew - 2012-03-12 13:57

      No Mr Vavi you are the AMC lapdog, if not put it to test against your masters voice!

      Andrew - 2012-03-12 14:14

      Sorry finger problem should read 'ANC'

  • MSGRule - 2012-03-12 10:33

    Yes you are cosatu. without you the anc has no voters. They must keep you happy and you must keep them happy.

  • Eric - 2012-03-12 10:35

    So why does COSATU not leave the alliance? Then they can blather as much as they want. This is just cheap politiking by Vavi!!

      Zing - 2012-03-12 10:49

      He wants to see if the ANC will expel him for talking dirty to them :)

      Boer - 2012-03-12 10:49

      Their leada sheep likes da gravy.

      Alan - 2012-03-12 14:55

      Likes da gravy? Well "Trained"?

  • Putin the " - 2012-03-12 10:37

    Now we are talking, stop the double head from using you idiots!!

  • Rhyno - 2012-03-12 10:39

    And so it begins...no more marriage counselling for these two.

  • Marion - 2012-03-12 10:44

    I agree with you Vavi. Just because you are married doesn't mean that you must always agree with what your spouse says or does or suppress your opinions out of fear of what your spouse may do to you.

      kgomotso.radise - 2012-03-12 10:51

      @Marion! Vavi is not submissive

      Alan - 2012-03-12 11:19

      Er Kgomotso - Marion is not saying that he is submissive! For my money, It's high time somebody stood up to the ANC, and I have personally developed some respect for Cosatu on some of the issues they have stood up for.

  • Nigel - 2012-03-12 10:54

    start your own party, this blind loyalty to the "struggle (ing)" party is so stale, there is more to life than the stupid ANC.

      John - 2012-03-12 11:05

      Listen to Nigel Vavi, don't be a lamb to the cANCer, start your own party!!!! They are nothing without you.

      Alan - 2012-03-12 11:30

      Good chance Vavi is going to split the ANC. He is clearly not taking any BS from them, and in my humble opinion, I agree with some of the stances that Cosatu has taken. It's time somebody with clout stood up to the ANC. In politics, there are always motives behind motives, but on the surface, Vavi often speaks a lot of sense.

      Mzwandile - 2012-03-12 12:23

      @Nigel and JohnB - you might have you motives to promote Vavi's split from the Alliance and go on his own. If your were going to join him I would like to congratulate you now. There is no straight line in Politics, Vavi leaving the alliance is no gaurantee of COSATU members leaving the ANC just like Malema's demise is no gaurantee of ANCYL members leaving the ANC. Holomisa, Terror Lekota, Shilowa all left the ANC but the ANC still stand strong. Vavi is right to shout within to give the voiceless within the allaince a voice.

      Nigel - 2012-03-12 12:41

      I would vote for any opposition that can run the country properly, no matter what color they are, so if Vavi started a party called the Social Democrats (which is what he has become) I would join him in his quest to get rid of the corrupt ANC, to create jobs, to build the economy & provide proper education for all. Till then I will vote DA!! Who knows maybe one day the DA & someone like Vavi get together & sort out the ANC once & for all.

      Alan - 2012-03-12 12:47

      @Mz ... on balance. if what Vavi is saying is the TRUTH, I would support him, even though I disagree on some issues like the prolonged strikes and labour brokers. For me, I want leaders who will be truthful, do what is best for the country, and take a stand against what is wrong. Unfortunately, in politics there are usually hidden agendas. But Vavi has made his opionions clear on what he thinks of the ANC, and he is sticking to his guns. I think he is a major thorn in the side of the ANC, especially when he refuses to bow to their pressure. However, I am not deeply conviced that Vavi is also not posturing for self gain? Time will tell, but at the moment, I like what he is saying, and he gets my vote for the sake of SA.

  • Thoka - 2012-03-12 11:00

    Keep on barking until they liston and change their ways, When a dog bark in the yard there is only one thing. trouble

      Alan - 2012-03-12 11:31

      or a dog...

  • LEWAZIE - 2012-03-12 11:09

    yes vavi,yes

  • Ian - 2012-03-12 11:11

    Good for you Cosatu. But I suspect that this is all smoke and mirrors while teh ANC make moves behind the scenes. In the end, the ANC will make it about black and white by preaching the wrong doings of the Apartheid regime. As we all know, black will stand by black irrespective of right or wrong. The opposition should stop reacting to what the ANC does by waiting for them to make a move. They should make the move first and then allow the ANC to react - I can assure you that they will not act with clear judgement as they have shown in the past

      Mzwandile - 2012-03-12 12:26

      Ian are you also suggesting that white stand by white irrespective of wrong - this sound like racist stereotype.

  • Dylan - 2012-03-12 11:12

    Talk is cheap Vavi.

  • Gavin - 2012-03-12 11:16

    And yet they sit idly by as the ANarChy party steers SA towards the icberg.

      Alan - 2012-03-12 12:09

      Disagree - seems to me that Cosatu are the only effective group standing up to the ANC.

  • Jacqui - 2012-03-12 11:16

    He could have fooled me.

      Alan - 2012-03-12 11:38

      I disagree Jacqui - I think Vavi is giving the ANC sleepless nights by not accepting any peace offerings. Vavi is sicking to his guns, and he makes a lot of sense on some issues. Watch this space with the Toll roads for example ... Vavi has the ANC "Backs to the wall" on that one, and hier kom GK. The ANC is going to have an ongoing battle trying to slip that one (Tolls) past the nation with Cosatu on their backs. Like it or not, Cosatu has the power to dictate, and Vavi is saying a lot of good things lately.

      Mzwandile - 2012-03-12 12:41

      @Alan - I like that you think with your head and not your heart. if I was a DA member or support these would have been one of the best news ever and strategically will have used that in my advantage to challenge the ANC. You are absolutely right Vavi's outbusrt and contradictory statements against ANC and government action and policy gives the ANC sleepless nights and worse nightmares. Look at the corruption watch initiative which this morning has been reported to have receive about 500 reported cased and some have already been reported to the police. This present a futile ground for the DA to present its alternative case to the society but what the DA members and supports do instead of organising - we cant't trust Vavi. This has nothing to do with whether you trust Vavi or not but about him creating a political opportunity to nail the ANC. Maybe Alan you must come and join the ANC for us to strategies better for sahe of this country.

      Alan - 2012-03-12 13:00

      @MZ . unfortunately - I cannot trust the ANC either. For me it's not about black and white. It's about good governance, and the honest attempt to minimise corruption, and leading by example. At the end of the day, no matter what side of the fence you sit on, we all need each other. Short term actions and lack of accountability are selling SA down the river. For your info, if Mr Mandela was still president, I may well have been an ANC supporter. I am supporting Vavi on some things because we need a shakeup badly .. we are heading to a point of no return, and then we will all be losers. This nation has incredible potential to succeed, bit I fear there will not be a second chance. Sadly, the electorate are too easily hoodwinked. Look at Zim .. in spite of the hardships, people still vote for Bob. Amazing, but true.

      Hugh - 2012-03-12 13:56

      @Mzwandile, we have had 4 ANC presidents in 18 years and only the few are getting super rich. Is there a possibility that you can see beyond colour and stand up for whats right? No, maybe that's asking too much. I'll leave it to you to explain to your children one day why this country was destroyed and they are starving.

  • anthony.swart - 2012-03-12 11:30

    Come election time and we see cosatu acting like the ANC's little lap dog. Cosatu you are part and parcel of the disaster befalling this country, you are so intertwined with the ANC to the point that if they cut you off you will die as a union.

      MSGRule - 2012-03-12 11:37

      Would that not be great??? the parasite union leaves the anc host and the host will die.

  • Brad.Kopping - 2012-03-12 11:38

    VIVA VAVI VIVA!! >:) THIS GUY IS A CHAMP!! I DIG THIS GUY!!

  • lmarima - 2012-03-12 11:42

    Mangaung again? I hope not, comrade Malema and Vavi can make a great team, why not form their own party? Phela if Shikota failed it does not mean Vama will fail

  • J.A.Rademan - 2012-03-12 11:44

    Vavi has his own political agenda. Watch closely. Malema will soon comment against the ANC and for Cosatu.

      Alan - 2012-03-12 11:53

      Fatboy will do anything to further his own agenda.

      Nigel - 2012-03-12 12:37

      Malema is trying to take over from Vavi, Vavi & Malema will but heads soon enough & this time JM will have bitten off more than even his big mouth can chew.

      Alan - 2012-03-12 12:48

      ah .. but after years of practice, Juju is (KFC) Streetwise

  • J.D. - 2012-03-12 11:45

    Just another round of barking from the treetops.

  • sariena.robbertse - 2012-03-12 11:51

    I agree Vavi because the ANC is a thriller and a good for nothing government to all of us.

  • Clive - 2012-03-12 11:59

    Actually, I sometimes wonder whether the ANC is Cosatu's lapdog.

      Alan - 2012-03-12 12:29

      Well Clive - Vavi once said (I cannot quote it exactly, as NEWS24 always deletes Vavi's quote), ..he said 'South A..... has a predator G......... led by hyenas'. Being part of the Tripartite structure, he should know. No love lost between that lot anymore....

  • Jayb - 2012-03-12 12:32

    looks like Zuma pissed more comrades , his advisors are misleading him and he is killing ANC

  • Cindy - 2012-03-12 12:33

    Wouldn’t it be interesting if COSATU can merge with one of the opposition parties, or maybe form a party on their own? I think they stand for a just cause to empower the working class of SA, and not the politicians. The ANC would be nothing without them, so they could actually call the shots.

  • Joe - 2012-03-12 12:40

    "You go boy", Vote DA my boet..you wont be sorry..

  • Joe - 2012-03-12 13:09

    Vavi, will get his position he is campaigning for and then what ?

      Alan - 2012-03-12 13:33

      That's called politics....

  • Hugh - 2012-03-12 13:47

    Mr Vavi, dont you think its time your Union politicised? Start a Labour Party, and take the Government to task at the polls. The rats will flee the sinking ship and youll see how quick things start changing for the better.

  • Andrew - 2012-03-12 13:55

    Mr Vavi put it to the test and oppose your masters voice!

      Alan - 2012-03-12 14:08

      I think Vavi is the master now....

  • Mtshezi Yonk'insipho Iyawasha Mkhize - 2012-03-12 17:04

    Mr Vavi is no fool, n will not break away from the Alliance! So everyone what I are saying is wishful futile thinking! He would be in the wilderness if he tried to... So don't fool yourselves!!!

  • Nada Nozimbali - 2012-03-13 02:09

    Viva Vavi!!!

  • siyabonga.qwayi - 2012-03-13 11:14

    VIVA VAVI VIVA

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