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Cosatu warns the poor will revolt

2012-07-03 08:08

Pietermaritzburg - Cosatu wanted a radical economic shift to the left and saw no need to quibble over terminology, its general secretary, Zwelinzima Vavi, said on Monday.

He was referring to the semantics around a “second phase of transition” rather than a “second transition”, which was adopted as part of the ANC’s strategy and tactics recommendations last week.

Speaking at Cosatu’s KZN provincial congress, Vavi said the real issue remained “a radical shift to the left”, which he maintained was the only way to deal with the crisis of inequality, poverty and unemployment in the country.

Income inequality

He presented figures to show that income inequality had increased across the board in South Africa.

Unemployment continued to rise and Africans, particularly African women, remained the poorest.

Vavi said the “second phase of the transition” would be a hollow slogan if it did not address these issues.

Malaysia did not do so and was woken up by race riots in 1969, he added

Vavi said there was talk of South Africa sitting on a ticking time bomb and that if the current situation persisted the poor would revolt.

“We will be sitting in our conferences, dancing and divided and playing factional games.

“The poor will enter the conference halls in their broken shoes and with their broken hearts and ask what have we been doing about their future and about all our the broken promises,” he said.

National crisis

Cosatu was grateful that finally it had a government and a ruling party that recognised the country was facing a national crisis.

He said this was a welcome move “from the denialism of a few years ago”.

However, he warned that if the factionalism in the ANC continued it would derail the process. Vavi said he wished he had spoken before ANC member Wandile Mkhize had been gunned down on the South Coast.

“This is how far we have deteriorated … factionalism and bloody violence.”

Vavi said that while ANC members were at each other’s throats, the Democratic Alliance was knocking at the doors of voters.

He said the forthcoming Cosatu congress would answer one central and practical question in terms of the second phase of the transition - “what should be the content of the change we seek to achieve”.
 

Comments
  • Ryno - 2012-07-03 08:16

    famous talkers...infamous implementers

      clinton.badenhorst - 2012-07-03 08:18

      If you want to help the poor, hand over the presidency to Zille. The ANC is too inept to run a country!

      faizieishlah.shabalala - 2012-07-03 08:29

      We all know they are revolting

      alan.gernet - 2012-07-03 08:37

      haha Faiz.... Seriously though - Vavi is another Juju - he wears designed suits, drives luxury cars, lives the high-life, and does nothing himself for the poor. If you want to help the poor - give them the opportunity of a meaningful education. The rest is up to them. Nothing else is sustainable. What would it help if the poor revolted in the long run? Zero Vavi Zero! Not STFU, and go and do something productive!

      gareth.beesley.7 - 2012-07-03 08:43

      @Salani - then you should be fine voting for Helen Zille? As I understand it her parents were of German decent. Maybe you need to amend your statement?

      grant.hide - 2012-07-03 08:43

      Zwelinzima Vavi, can start by handing the poor some Tenders or just handing over his properties and money. If he is expecting us to do it, and we are all equal, then he should take the lead by example :)

      melania.nel - 2012-07-03 08:48

      @salani. I won't either. That's why I am going with DA or ACDP. They are the good guys. Nice mix and do what they say they will do. No hidden agendas like the apartheid and current government. Get the best for yourself. You deserve it. Vote for the best future.

      charlesdumbwin.dumbwin - 2012-07-03 08:54

      VAVI is the biggest instigator in this poor revolt. He wants nothing more than to stir up the masses to prove his point. Only in Africa

      E=MC2 - 2012-07-03 08:58

      civil war anyone?

      glyn.morgan.96 - 2012-07-03 09:09

      All the great revolutions ended with a dictator at the top. The French revolution ended up with Bonaparte as EMPEROR! The Russian revolution ended up with a dictator (Stalin) who killed 30 to 60 MILLION Russians! Cuba ended up with a dictator and starving! Same with North Korea. South Africa has an incompetent anc government who want to give the incompetent president a $2 billion plane to take his wives shopping! We all need a change! Vote DA!

      glyn.morgan.96 - 2012-07-03 09:11

      He says it is the only way to deal with poverty. That does NOT mean that he is right. No country in history has got richer by going left-wing! China is moving to the right, freeing up private companies and getting richer, North Korea is stuck in the left and going backwards. The only way to create wealth is via private enterprise. No government has ever made money! Just think, would you like to live in a country where there are NO rich people? Would you like to work for a poor boss? Vote DA for a sensible government.

      Revelgen - 2012-07-03 09:15

      Vavi, listen up: here is Simple Economics 101. With me? OK. 1)Money has to be EARNED through productive work. 2)Businesses can only prosper and employ people if the business is competitive. 3)If wages are too high, a business's costs become too high, and their products become too expensive. 4) If products are too expensive, the public does not buy from that business. 6) The business then has to close down. 7) Workers then lose their jobs. So Vavi, what part of this do you NOT understand? And don't think the State can simply pay for everyone. We have far too small a tax base and number of businesses in relation to over 50 million population for there to be enough tax for the State to pay. So voetsak with your Communistic crap, Vavi. It has already destroyed dozens of countries. We do not want to be next.

      glyn.morgan.96 - 2012-07-03 09:17

      He says it is the only way to deal with poverty. That does NOT mean that he is right. No country in history has got richer by going left-wing! China is moving to the right, freeing up private companies and getting richer, North Korea is stuck in the left and going backwards. The only way to create wealth is via private enterprise. No government has ever made money! Just think, would you like to live in a country where there are NO rich people? Would you like to work for a poor boss? Vote DA for a sensible government.

      denise.ryan.5203 - 2012-07-03 09:38

      This is the kind of thing the world last saw happening during the late 1930’s in Nazi Germany... In an obvious reference to the Communist leader of China, Mao Zedong and his “Great Leap Forward” (in which 70 million people were cold-bloodedly, murdered)…Zuma called for a “Giant Leap Forward”…in order to snatch the economy from white owned hands. After 18 years of living a false pipedream of a democratic La-La-Land, Liberal Rainbow Utopia, South Africans are more divided than during Apartheid and the long delayed Communist revolution in the form of a racial civil war is looming on the horizon. If a racial civil war breaks out, the ANC will be able to declare a “State of Emergency” and in so doing, will be able to suspend rights and freedoms such as shut the media down, suspend elections, restrict movement and carry out genocide. We have seen many times how despotic regimes especially in Africa have used States of Emergency to rule indefinitely and there is no doubt that this is also the aim of the ANC. They will use any means to stay in power forever. The ANC is only interested in Democracy when they can win. They do not care how many people die in a racial civil war. If they go down, they have no qualms to drag the entire country and all its citizens down with them.

      eugene.meyer1980 - 2012-07-03 10:58

      "Malaysia did not do so and was woken up by race riots in 1969" Oh so now all of a sudden it matters what happened in other countries. But when we point out that nationalization has NEVER worked in ANY country it is ignored.

      zambezi.river - 2012-07-03 11:15

      African spring calling!

      edward.patterson.923 - 2012-07-03 13:23

      I love it. Unemployment continues to rise all the while the country has been moving to the left for the past 18 years so the solution is to move further to the left. It's like the driver who is lost speeding up. He still doesn't know where he is going but he is getting there fast.

      Antebellum - 2012-07-03 17:27

      Yes, the poor will revolt and whites/apartheid will be the scapegoats(again) How the hell am I supposed to empathize with people who riot because the party that they elected are not delivering on promises, yet they keep voting for this party over and over again? And what is the proposed solution of this party and its partners, how do they want to fix what they have broken? It is apparent that they do not want to fix anything. They want to break everything else that is still working. Everyone keeps hammering on Zuma and the ANC but are oblivious to the root cause. Modified from a apt quote: Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The republic can survive Zuma, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president.

      arthur.hugh - 2012-07-04 09:25

      Cosatu is revolting.

      oomkrummel.krummel - 2012-07-18 10:59

      There must by now be some realisation that BEE and affirmative action just does not work. If there is no will amongst the people, then NOTHING will change. Change cannot be forced, it takes its own time. You cannot "RUSH" the future into the present. BEE will not bring that utopia for the masses, nor handouts, nor better jobs..it just won’t. It will continue to frustrate the masses and annoy the whites,(incidentally, whites are full citizens of this country.) IF THERE IS A VIOLENT FLARE UP IN THE NEAR FUTURE, IT WILL BE ON THE HANDS OF THE ANC..NOT THE WHITES,NOT THE PAST, NOT APARTHUID...! Stop promising stuff which you are not capable of delivering and tell the truth to the people. Work harder, moan less, and don’t expect anything for nothing..!!!

  • Shaun Robinson - 2012-07-03 08:16

    They should just become a political party, they strong enough and have a lot of power in the ANC anyway... Good for you, let the poor have a voice...

      gareth.beesley.7 - 2012-07-03 08:35

      Shaun I actually agree with you, in that the poor should most definitely have a voice. With that being said, however, the voice should be uttering words that have bearing and direction based on facts and truth. While the poor starve their "leaders" eat meals fit for a king, while the poor freeze these same "leaders" warm up their lives with corrupt wealth. If COSATU actually wanted to help, really help, they would cut to the heart of the problem, which is the nepotistic, corrupt, rotten corpse of leadership that literally steals from every citizen. Never a word is mentioned on the use of the funds on the poor instead of private jets, lavish lifestyles, luxury cars and champagne sunsets. How is it possible to have a "second transition" when the first one never even made it off the ground?

      scebberish.umfazi - 2012-07-03 09:45

      It should be lead by example, yet our President has 4 "official" wives and some ungodly amount of children of which he has even admitted he is unsure of how many himself.

      Vince - 2012-07-03 09:57

      As long as the masses think that the grants they are getting are from the ANC they will vote ANC. The DA needs to educate the masses as to where the grants are really from!!!

      edward.patterson.923 - 2012-07-03 13:43

      @beastley Unfortunately SA is following the rest of Africa. Fight against the oppression of the colonialist rulers. Win fight and gain independence. Preach democracy but practice personal enrichment. Make wild promises to the uneducated masses. Blame all failures to deliver on promises on former colonial masters (no doubt they also enriched themselves at the expense of others) Continue to enrich oneself and those closest to you. Drive away foreign investment with talk of nationalization and when blaming others doesn't work nationalize things. All the while making sure that you get "yours" and it's stored in some bank in Europe so when the whole thing collapses you can't take refuge in europe with your money. Watch as the masses of poor become more and more angry that promises aren't met. Continue to blame others. Keep getting "yours" while the poor starve. Finally watch the country descend into civil war as you board the plane for Europe and your secret swiss bank account.

      denise.ryan.5203 - 2012-07-06 03:35

      Vavi reminds me of a beggar rattling his tin every now and then to remind people he's still there. Then he goes home until he needs to rattle the tin again. He seems to be particularly concerned that Black women are getting a raw deal as they have the highest unemployment. Well, they could help themselves very easily by popping a little pill every day to prevent having 6 children by 6 different fathers, and of course by staying in school to finish their education. That would be a start, but I guess that's the white people's fault as well. It amazes me that these black communists never speak out about the high population numbers as a source of all this poverty. No, to them more babies means more voters and so what if they're born into perpetual poverty. Well Mr Vavi, I don't know a lot about economics - I'm obviously not as clever as you - but, what I do know is that money has to be earned productively and to do this you need competitive businesses, which employ people at reasonable rates. If a government doesn't provide the atmosphere for this to take place the result is what you sit with in South Africa today. And clown Vavi now wants to make it even more difficult for businesses to operate freely. Best Vavi just live in his ivory tower looking down on the stupid masses. That way he can avoid the revolt.

  • James - 2012-07-03 08:22

    Vavi - have you ever considered that from the dawn of the new South Africa, the population has grown from 38 million people, to 50 million people? How do you expect the inequality to change when more and more poor people are brought into this world on a daily basis? You'll never catch up, unless you educate people to stop having children when they do not have the means to even look after themselves.

      Johan De Beer - 2012-07-03 08:28

      Correct

      nomcebo.k.kubheka.3 - 2012-07-03 08:40

      well said James.

      alan.gernet - 2012-07-03 08:40

      100% James .. I forgot to mention above that the "Breeding Program' is the main cause of the poor class.If you cannot afford to keep and educate kids, dont emulate your President. It is unsustainable

      martin.britchford.5 - 2012-07-03 08:45

      if im not mistaken the majority had a population of 3 million odd around 1900, same as the minority had roughly, they increased their population b 300% by 2010

      grant.hide - 2012-07-03 08:47

      I had an assistant with 21 children.

      norman.depluhm - 2012-07-03 09:15

      Chikunga, the Chinese have a one child policy because they realize all too clearly that population explosions are hard to feed, nevermind create employment for. Not that it is helping their vast numbers of rural poor. India? They have a caste system deeply ingrained in their society that makes the continuing black/white spats look like kindergarden teasing. James has pointed out a plain simple fact, without a sniff of racism about it. In fact his statement feels more like solidarity with the issue and taking the cause of it to task. You're the one who had to go all racial on it.

      Revelgen - 2012-07-03 09:20

      Chikunga, stop confusing yourself mate. We are talking about BIRTH RATES here man, not world populations. As I said in another post, check the birth rate in African countries (e.g. up to 8 per woman in some countries north of us) vs. the birth rate in European countries. THAT is the problem people are referring to here.

      alan.gernet - 2012-07-03 09:31

      so Chikunga - your point is that having families that you cannot feed and educate is OK? WTF - is there any point in pointing out the lack of logic that your argument hinges on? The world is overpopulated. Food is scarce, usable water is running out. The environment is in irreversable decline and in 30 years from now it will be over for the entire world, unless the human demands are reversed now!! We have far bigger issues to worry about in the world than your petty racism. FYI, countries like China penalise families for having more than 2 children. Many first world counties now have stable of negative birth rates. Only Africa and poor populations continue to breed like flies, increasing their own misery. SA in particulat needs a Govt. that puts Education and Environment as it's NO 1 Priority. Whatever else happens is on no consequence - what happens to the Earth, happens to the creatures of the Earth. SO, black, white, yellow or green - OVERPOPULATION is the biggest cause of the Earth's decline, and people whi cannot see that and act accordingly, show utter stupidity.

      downwiththeANC - 2012-07-03 09:57

      yeah, If you are dirt poor and unemployed, why do they have 7 to 10 kids. How will the provide for them and an education. The problem is that we are overpopulated and that there is not enough money to go around. Education is needed

      glyn.morgan.96 - 2012-07-03 10:23

      Only have as many children as you can afford.

      BigChiefPlumbPudding - 2012-07-03 10:40

      Hell one would think it's rocket science. Just stop breeding yourselves into poverty and then blaming the White man for your demise.

      Francois - 2012-07-07 10:08

      having babies, making babies, striking and soccer are the national sports in south africa.there is just no planning, insight, understanding and reasoning by the "previously disadvantaged"the kraal mentality will only be bred out in 10 generations, if enough white blood is mixed into their future.all the black political stars have a mixed-lilly white- heritage.sizulu, obama, mandela, holomisa, tutu etc etc.

  • Andres - 2012-07-03 08:23

    You go too far left, nothing's right, you go too far right, nothing's left. You need to go back to history and economic classes. Case in point: Too far left: Collapse of Soviet Union and Communist Bloc, Too far right: Capital implosion of 2008. No system is sustainable in its pure form. Stop leading us down the path of destruction with your unionist dogma.

      melania.nel - 2012-07-03 08:39

      Excellent comment. Just a pity they won't try to understand this simple logic. They burn books. They don't read them.

      Andres - 2012-07-03 08:54

      Vavi's fears of the rising DA shows that at the least that people with middle-levels of education are realising that the COSATU-ANC-SACP "balancing act alliance" are actually the ones' causing policy paralysis, leaving us all poorer, dumb and unemployed: See: Blocking Youth Wage Subsidy; Resistance of Outcomes based salaries for teachers - SADTU etc.

      Press - 2012-07-03 09:21

      And Vavi's "the only way" argument is a false argument, there are many ways, but all of them blocked by the entitled Cosatu members who have ensconsed themselves behind labour laws that only serve their members and punishes entrepeneurs and the jobless. Just think about it, Vavi is actively promoting the view that those who create jobs should be punished and stopped, and that a jobless person should only be allowed employment if a struggling startup accepts responsibility to look after that person for the rest of his life - surprised we ended up in this corner - unlike where the rest of our BRIC type partners are heading ?

      allcoveredinNinjas - 2012-07-03 10:07

      Actually the major contributer to the 2008 banking crash was Clintons leftist policy of insisting banks give loans to Ninja's (no income ,no job, no assets)to acquire property. The resulting lack of regulation and oversight led to a crippling housing crisis they still have today. The hot potato with credit default swaps played by banks inevitably had to land and cause the liquidity crisis within banks .

      Amanda - 2012-07-03 10:25

      Rubbish. The Capital collapse wasn't Capitalism at all but spending more than you have. Socialism and welfare dependency also contributed, which are LEFT ideals.

      Andres - 2012-07-03 10:49

      Not the point: You are right, however the point is: Capitalism without regulation is bad (our FICA act saved our banks), Socialism and Welfare states without capitalists-drive is also bad, as then you have entitlement, dependence on State and subsequent collapse. You can't swing the pendulum any which way too far.

  • Ben - 2012-07-03 08:24

    How much went to corruption and BEE and how much of that benefited the poor.

  • Taetjo - 2012-07-03 08:25

    These guys need to learn about the French revolution. It will come here and all well-off South Africans (black or white) will be in real trouble. ANC, clean up your house.

      glyn.morgan.96 - 2012-07-03 10:35

      The French Revolution ended up giving France an EMPEROR! Ha! Ha! The Russian Revolution gave Russia a DICTATOR! Ha! Ha! Stalin said "No people, no problem"! He killed 30 - 60 Million Russians! South Africa already has a DICKHEAD!

      abram.spamers - 2012-07-03 16:09

      Poor uneducated people revolting will just result in poor uneducated leadership after a few unnecessary deaths... you don't build a nation by burning it down again every day

  • Harold - 2012-07-03 08:26

    More good advice from the dirt bin kickers and windscreen breakers now it means Vavi will start using the poor to get his way. Mr Vavi the poor have been in revolt for sometime but your government are using the police to suppress them.

  • melania.nel - 2012-07-03 08:26

    Yes, they have a government who realises there is a problem, but they have not yet had a government who cared and who would do something about it. Vote DA or ACDP. There's a future for the poor.

      glyn.morgan.96 - 2012-07-03 10:37

      Vote DA or COPE! The anc is useless! The rest are too small to be effective.

      snoopy.snoopaloop - 2012-07-03 10:43

      D.A. is the only option you chop! They are the STRONGEST OPPOSITION! This is exactly our problem, we are unable to unite, voting for small political groups who just aren't strong enough, and basically throwing our votes away. No use voting for a political party who only harvest 5 - 15 % of votes. All the smaller political parties should unite with the D.A. forming one huge opposition. See the ANC squirm then! D.A. is the way forward!

      melania.nel - 2012-07-03 11:36

      We actually need those smaller parties in parliament. There must still be people left to advocate the rights of the smaller groups. Acdp gives a christian sense, ff gives afrikaners a voice and so on. Its quite insignificant but still important to have variety and choice. That's just my humble opinion.

  • Johan De Beer - 2012-07-03 08:27

    So, its all about votes then

  • jempeter - 2012-07-03 08:29

    If Vavi and Cosatu have so much to say, why don't they stop hanging onto the ANC's coattails, get themselves a backbone, and stand for elections on their own. That way they will be able to guauge exactly how powerful they are. (Not)

  • Molebatsi Sehenye - 2012-07-03 08:31

    Vavi is busy incites the ppl to revolt against the govmnt,every tym he utters a word is about revolt when will he address the issues which directly affect the workers of this country?

      Press - 2012-07-03 09:23

      When will he address issues that affect the entrepeneurs of this country ?

  • marcusvandermerwe - 2012-07-03 08:32

    The ANC's failure is a ticking time bomb. Who takes Vavi seriously anyway. If he was mininster of finance, we'd all be starving. Erenreich, Vavi and the ANCYL needs to go get a decent education. The policies and ideas they come up with can and never will work.

  • Ian - 2012-07-03 08:33

    ok vavi, why dont you sell one of your mercs and hand the takings over to the poor, idiot

      marcusvandermerwe - 2012-07-03 16:52

      And he claims to care for the poor. Lol!!! He is just as dirty as the rest of those corrupt politicians. As long as people are poor and starving, that's for how long he has an audience. It's therefore his JOB to ensure things remains messed up.

  • andy.pipkin.5458 - 2012-07-03 08:36

    Leadership in this country consists of nothing other than fat cats wanting to "leave a legacy", "create a revolution", and become rich and famous by stealing from the poor... things will never change as long as these idiots are left to do what they want.

  • cynthia.d.plessis - 2012-07-03 08:38

    The peasants are revolting?

      BigChiefPlumbPudding - 2012-07-03 10:26

      Who are the Kings and Queens Hadebe?

      glyn.morgan.96 - 2012-07-03 10:41

      The anc is revolting! They smell terrible!

  • Beckie Knight - 2012-07-03 08:41

    Nappies and politicians should be changed often; both for the same reason!

      Bless Boswell - 2012-07-03 09:14

      Nice! Very apt and to the point. :)

      Paul - 2012-07-03 10:10

      Excellent Beckie!

  • martin.britchford.5 - 2012-07-03 08:42

    the poor are solely responsible for their own condition 20 years into democracy, they insist on having a horde of kids, and those kids have a horde of kids of their own, there are not enough jobs for all of them, and no matter what they do, whether it be rioting, being revolting, picketing etc, jobs dont just pop out of jacobs naught. you can have my job, you will complain cos you cant make ends meet either, i have a car, and aplace to stay, not in my name cos i dont earn the figures necessary for credit for these things so for all intensive purposes i own nothing. and i have a fairly good job. business isnt booming because of pricks like vavi who want business run their way, people wont hire anyone with an attitude like that, if you try run my business, you will get my back up and get nothing, in fact i will go out of my way to make sure i piss you off and hurt your feelings if i had some union tosser screwing with my business,

      glyn.morgan.96 - 2012-07-03 09:27

      Only have as many children as you can afford.

      martin.britchford.5 - 2012-07-03 09:54

      exactly Glyn, Im 29, and I wont have kids cos there is nothing left in this world for them, but i bet more than 2000 poverty babies were born while i typed this, who are gonna grow up being told they are starving cos of the white man, and aparthied, nooo they starve cos their mother and father are retarded

      flysouth - 2012-07-03 10:34

      I have had 'union tossers' trying to screw with my business! Back in 1996 when I employed 20 black men in my factory they came around demanding access to sign up my workers for their union - guys in suits driving BMWs! They got real nasty when I told them to take a hike. This after I asked the workers if they wanted a union - they said, emphatically, NO! These waBenzis then started to try and make trouble for me, using various other governmental industrial bodies. The eventual result was that I simply shut down the entire business, paid off the staff and never looked back - 20 good guys who wanted to work were out of work - such a shame. This in microcosm is what the ANC has done to businesses across this country over 18 years - most often by the simple act of making laws and regulation which are inherently hostile to small business. After 18 years it is clear that the ANC has no desire to learn about what powers the economy of a country - they are mired in Marxist ideology and can never shake free of that!

      martin.britchford.5 - 2012-07-03 10:58

      its like if vavi gets his way with the broker story, sa will have 300 new unemployed, cos my boss will simply pack up and take the rest of his money to portugal, where most of his wealth now sits anyway, he will never hire these guys on permanent staff. he doesnt hire guys from the same family cos when the next uncle dies half the work force ducks for a funeral. 20 years into democracy the situation of the majority is their own damn fault, eiher they over breed, or vote stupid, both are their own fault

  • Justin Ané Grobbler - 2012-07-03 08:42

    a radical shift is necessary yes but taking from one and giving to another has never and will never work the problem is with education learn n kid to do and he will u cant compare someone and this is not based on race, with good to great education back ground to someone with non. take for example the kids in limpopo can they perform with the kids in jhb? no because of they are intellectually on par but because they did have textbooks!!!

  • jacques.koorts - 2012-07-03 08:51

    Vavi, you are the most outspoken and influential person for the poor. What radical changes have you brought about inside the ANC? Talk is cheap you know.

      Press - 2012-07-03 09:29

      How the hell can Vavi be a spokesman for the poor, his support base all have forever jobs.

  • badballie - 2012-07-03 08:53

    “This is how far we have deteriorated … factionalism and bloody violence.” Sorry Vavi, the brown stuff is muffling your words, we have not deteriorated, the ANC and the black mass is simply moving back to its root, the entire history of the ANC is little more a story of factionalism and bloody violence, but as the unions are little more than an extension of the ANC itself you already know this.

  • louwrens.duplessis.9 - 2012-07-03 08:54

    why don't they revolt with their votes...

  • glyn.morgan.96 - 2012-07-03 09:02

    He says it is the only way to deal with poverty. That does NOT mean that he is right. No country in history has got richer by going left-wing! China is moving to the right, freeing up private companies and getting richer, North Korea is stuck in the left and going backwards. The only way to create wealth is via private enterprise. No government has ever made money! Just think, would you like to live in a country where there are NO rich people? Would you like to work for a poor boss? Vote DA for a sensible government.

  • sizwe.bwana - 2012-07-03 09:07

    And they would be right to do so, the enormous salaries of the burocrats and their high lifestyle is not invisible. All the ANC has achieved is to create a black elite at everybody else's expense especially the poor who were promised so much and are already rioting about non delivery while we have grand lifestyles and sip champagne and eat cake on their behalf. ANC you have failed your people.

  • mike.bundy.73 - 2012-07-03 09:08

    "Unemployment continued to rise and Africans, particularly African women, remained the poorest." Are we not ALL Africans? Who is he referring to?

  • glyn.morgan.96 - 2012-07-03 09:08

    All the great revolutions ended with a dictator at the top. The French revolution ended up with Bonaparte as EMPEROR! The Russian revolution ended up with a dictator (Stalin) who killed 30 to 60 MILLION Russians! Cuba ended up with a dictator and starving! Same with North Korea. South Africa has an incompetent anc government who want to give the incompetent president a $2 billion plane to take his wives shopping! We all need a change! Vote DA!

  • geey.teey - 2012-07-03 09:08

    Vavi and the poor! Poverty will never end in south Africa !

      martin.britchford.5 - 2012-07-03 11:09

      the world needs ditch diggers too judge smails(caddy shack)

  • winifred.watson.9 - 2012-07-03 09:10

    Mr. Vavi, your government has made us all poorer in one way or another. When the ANC came into power they promised the world to all those who voted for them. If all the corrupt officials could hand back the money they have philfered there would be no poor people to speak of. Government has also made people lazy providing social grants etc these grants are being abused. People have become lazy, they want a job but when they have the job dont want to work but sit and do nothing all day. Look at any country and you will see the poor, not just south africa. Some times the poor are happy to live of handouts. When the Anc came into power job opportunities opened up for blacks and indians, they were high on the list then coloureds and lastly whites. The poor must be motivated to help themselves otherwise we will never move on. If there is any uprising etc it will because Government and the Unions are misleading the poor and a they will eventually revolt on their own government. You have seen it happen in other countries, so Mr. Vavi you and the Anc stop making rash promises to the poor. They have ample opportunities blacks top percentage of the job marked followed by indians coloured and whites. Stop playing with peoples futures, we are not a communist country where everybody has to work for themselves and that includes you. Keep your nose out of government affairs.

  • trevor.dean.10 - 2012-07-03 09:16

    A radical shift to the left is a sure way to completely destroy our economy. The problem goes far deeper than inequalities. The biggest problem with the SA economy is the low productivity of our labour, making us economically inefficient. And Cosatu bears a lot of blame for this state of affairs. Redistribution is useless if there is not enough to redistribute. Let us first create wealth by efficient, cost-effective labour. Then we will have wealth that can be more evenly distributed.

  • glyn.morgan.96 - 2012-07-03 09:17

    He says it is the only way to deal with poverty. That does NOT mean that he is right. No country in history has got richer by going left-wing! China is moving to the right, freeing up private companies and getting richer, North Korea is stuck in the left and going backwards. The only way to create wealth is via private enterprise. No government has ever made money! Just think, would you like to live in a country where there are NO rich people? Would you like to work for a poor boss? Vote DA for a sensible government.

  • azande.futhi - 2012-07-03 09:17

    Corruption and corrupt deployments is killing the nation. Nothing else will change this situation for better, remove corrupt officials from the ranks of power.

  • mhlopwe.ingozi - 2012-07-03 09:20

    Why is it always a left and right issue and not a right and wrong issue with these guys. Its rather convenient for the anc to have the black people poor as this divide us even more.

      Sharon - 2012-07-03 16:24

      its easier to controll people when they feel hopeless,if the peoples lives improve and they live better and start to taste the good things then they will expect more from government and this government cant deliver

  • shaylene.stenger - 2012-07-03 09:20

    No one else to blame Mr Vavi but the goverment. They would rather spend millions if not billions on parties and jets and yet invest nothing into the poor.

  • alugum - 2012-07-03 09:22

    vavi join ANC and wat u think is best for thiz country its easy to blame

  • denny.cray - 2012-07-03 09:26

    Get rid of restrictive labour laws. *Allow* people to actually work. These unions serve only themselves to the disadvantage of the poor they claim to help.

      keith.f.murphy - 2012-07-03 09:53

      They another bunch of Mafias and fortune hunters to keep the coffers full and live live fat cats

  • stephen.j.dickson.3 - 2012-07-03 09:41

    What makes a person wealthy in these harsh economic times? Is it the ability to scheme,lie,cheat and get blood from a stone? I too will revolt against the rich , both white and black,when the revolution comes because these care less scumbags are ripping us honest,decent middle income folk off so they can make a fast buck, thus forcing us into lower living standards.God knows what things will be like come retirement.

  • ian.pohl.1 - 2012-07-03 09:41

    If the DA had a black male leader and not a white female...the ANC would be in a lot of trouble.

      digger.dighead - 2012-07-05 06:34

      No unfortunatly the DA is what it is because it has a white women leader.

  • keith.f.murphy - 2012-07-03 09:49

    Its time the poor should revolt and change the government who will lead the country in a responsible way to easy the poverty and feed the needed .Yes the masses of the poor should make themselves heard

  • DrGfinger - 2012-07-03 09:50

    They perpetuate the "creation" of the poor , the labour laws are so draconian for employers due in part to unions , that it's a HUGE risk to take on more employees. So as a business owner , I would rather buy a computerised or any other machine to do what labour could , if possible, than to employ someone new. I could create 5 new jobs right now - but won't as the last thing I need is labour trouble. Pronouncements of land grabs , nationalisation, economic freedom , being strangled by unions and the govt make me want to close down my enterprise and go somewhere where my entrepreneurial spirit is recognised. Maybe my 30 employees can find other jobs or maybe not , maybe they just join the ranks of the unemployed and poor. Maybe (hopefully) China will have bought the whole country by then and productivity increases and we all benefit.

  • Hermann - 2012-07-03 10:01

    I think Vavi should find himself a decent job and try one day's honest work.

  • Khwenyane - 2012-07-03 10:05

    Poor will never lebel or revolt unless mobiluze. They have faith in ruling party, bafa la elifa khona.

  • Khwenyane - 2012-07-03 10:06

    Poor will never lebel or revolt unless mobiluze. They have faith in ruling party, bafa la elifa khona.

      martin.britchford.5 - 2012-07-03 12:00

      viva rape, viva murder, viva no education viva anc

      themba.thwala.98 - 2012-07-03 14:32

      Khwenyane why have the poor been burning tyres and their councillors houses lately if they have faith in the ruling party? Take off your blinkers. Martin blitchford you need a disinfectant to disinfect your messed up foul-mouthed self

  • Paul - 2012-07-03 10:08

    Vavi is a true struggle icon, heed his warnings or peril ANC your hour glass is almost empty, the masses are seeing the real picture at last! Party!party!party at your own peril! Why is Blade so silent on education Fiasco! Start shinning the handcuffs the guilty will be punished today, tomorrow next year but it will happen! the untouchables are touchable!

  • rowan.maulson - 2012-07-03 10:12

    Ummm sorry Vavi my son.... your solution will not "fix" anything, it will make it worse... The solution to the problems this country is facing is to get the ANC OUT of power so that a political party with the will to serve its people can be voted into power.

  • glen.e.huysamer - 2012-07-03 10:16

    He claims to speak for the poor, but he only speaks for a marginal work force who still believe Casatu represents them as a Union. It is clear that they are in the back pocket of the ANC, hoodwinking workers into watered down salary increases. They tried to take over public representation of the E-tolling debacle so that they could negotiate a "settlement'. There support base is nowhere as large as they claim, and the workless far outnumber their membership, so now he wants present Casatu as the champion of the poor, but at the same time he and his cronies keep the youth of South Africa out of the work force by stalling the youth subsidy in an attempt to work out how they can have control of the money that has been allocated towards the youth. Casatu is a ball and chain on the ANC government, pulling them down, while the communist party is a noose around the neck of the ANC, pulling in two different directions.

      glen.e.huysamer - 2012-07-03 10:23

      While Vavi portrays concern he sows division, thinking that Casatu house will be safe from the poor and jobless is also foolish.

  • fanie.brink.5 - 2012-07-03 10:18

    Wonderful!! The more I move to the right and you to the left, the more seperate development we can get!!

      themba.thwala.98 - 2012-07-03 12:57

      How about trekking to that Zoo called Orania to enjoy your “seperate” development there instead of waiting :)

  • jan.vanderwesthuizen.370 - 2012-07-03 10:20

    We have been on the left since 1994. How can he logically defend that moving further will solve problems that could not be solved since then. The idea is dead, even those clever peaople in the USSR could not make it work. Perhaps if we invest more resources in it, it may work - and the books may also be delivered. The point is that these are delivered far cheaper and efficiently in in countries that are towards the right. But then he will have to do a proper job - for example delivering books instead of talking about delivering them and finding reasons why they have not been deliverd and scaring away investors. Investors not only supply money, they also work extremely hard to increase and protect their investment. And they fire people who do not work and deliver.

  • flysouth - 2012-07-03 10:23

    My fervent hope is that the poor, when they revolt, will know who the target of their frustration must be - and it is the likes of Vavi, and other leaders of the Tri-Partite Alliance. This unholy trinity is the entity which is entirely responsible for failure to address their problems in any meaningful way - after 18 years this is entirely unacceptable.

  • nigel.vanysendyk - 2012-07-03 10:24

    bla bla bla, you are F*** idiot!!

  • Gavin - 2012-07-03 10:43

    Vavi has multiple personality disorder: Monday: viva ANC ! Tuesday: eish ANC ! Wednesday: who are dees people ?

  • hudayfah.newman - 2012-07-03 11:09

    So let me get this straight. You and your tri-partheid buddies/cadres steal billions. Now you are actually fighting for the poor who this money was supposed to go to in the 1st place? And those whom you stole from are actually standing with you? Lol this should be one of those epic comedy movies