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D-Day for absent Julius Malema

2011-11-09 22:29

Johannesburg - The African National Congress will announce on Thursday the verdict of a disciplinary hearing that could derail the political career of outspoken ANC Youth League Julius Malema

The ANC will hold a news conference at 10:00, but Malema will not attend proceedings while he tackles examinations - details of which are not forthcoming - in Polokwane.

The firebrand youth leader, who has been a leading advocate for the nationalisation of mines, has been charged with bringing the party into disrepute and with sowing division within party ranks.

Earlier this year, he said the ANCYL would send a team to Botswana to consolidate local opposition parties and help bring about regime change.

Malema subsequently apologised for the remarks.

His co-accused, ANCYL spokesperson Floyd Shivambu, deputy president Ronald Lamola, treasurer general Pule Mabe, secretary general Sindiso Magaqa and deputy secretary general Kenetswe Mosenogi are expected to be present.

"The ANCYL places it on record that we subject ourselves to the discipline and guidance of the ANC," the league said in a statement.

"The leadership of the ANCYL will only speak publicly about the disciplinary proceedings and outcomes after every little detail of the DC [disciplinary committee] has been concluded."

The Star newspaper, quoting unnamed sources, reported on Wednesday that the chairperson of the ANC's disciplinary panel, Derek Hanekom, had recommended Malema be suspended for a year.

Showdown

Violence erupted in the Johannesburg CBD when Malema first appeared before the disciplinary committee, where youth league members threw bricks and stones at police and the media 'and burnt t-shirts with the face of President Zuma printed on them.

The disciplinary case is widely regarded as a showdown between Malema, 30, and President Jacob Zuma, whose path to re-election as head of the ANC could be blocked by Malema.

ANC insiders allege Malema is fronting a plot to oust Zuma and replace him with Deputy President Kgalema Motlanthe.

Malema has unnerved investors with his calls for state ownership of mines and a seizure of white-owned farm land. He has also won legions of supporters among the poor black majority who regard him as a future leader.

If Malema were suspended for a year he could be back in his post as the ANC's Youth League President in time for a major ANC meeting in December 2012.

ANC spokesperson Keith Khoza indicated action could be taken against Malema.

"There are complications with the ANC constitution and the ANC Youth League constitution in terms of his standing as a leader of the youth league," Khoza said.

But comments from Motlanthe seemed to suggest that there was yet hope for Malema.

On Tuesday the deputy president said the ruling party only expelled members it believed were beyond rehabilitation.

"The approach of the ANC is that it abandons only the most incorrigible," Motlanthe told Parliament's Press Gallery Association.

"It has the confidence that it can correct its members."

Could be killed

Malema was found guilty of criticising Zuma by another ANC disciplinary hearing last year. He pleaded guilty to this charge.

The national disciplinary committee at the time said should Malema be found guilty of provoking serious divisions or a break-down of unity in the organisation within the next two years, his membership of the ANC would be suspended.

Any penalty imposed on Malema will not automatically result in him being removed from ANC structures and the public arena.

He can appeal to the ANC's highest decision-making body, the national executive committee, headed by Zuma.

Zuma could fail in his bid for re-election as head of the ANC if Malema rallies support against him.

Zuma's foes have been courting Malema as they line up their bids for power.

Motlanthe and former youth league leader Fikile Mbalula have denied they are part of a plot. The ANC discourages succession debates outside party structures.

"I do not get involved in plots about anything. If there is something I want to say, I say it within the ANC," Mbalula told the New Age newspaper. "This is something I can be killed for because some people may believe these lies."

In what might be a sign of Malema's influence on Africa's largest economy, credit ratings agency Moody's lowered its outlook on South Africa.

It voiced concern that political pressure from black voters wanting greater economic redress for the ills of apartheid could erode the country's finances.

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Comments
  • cosmos.ndebele - 2011-11-09 23:10

    I dont see a lot of action on this guy, too late, he has a lot of power already....

      rbphiri - 2011-11-10 00:06

      "The verdict of a disciplinary hearing that could derail the political career of outspoken ANC Youth League Julius Malema". Since day one he has been on the right track but on the wrong train. "The ANC will hold a news conference at 10:00, but Malema will not attend proceedings while he tackles examinations". Having the proceedings on the same day as his examinations! what an amazing coincident. From delays to having the hearings moved to several undisclosed locations and now him not being present for the proceedings...something is strangely fishy about this. If the verdict is not in Julius' favour, we could see political unrest and league members running rampage in the country.

      ekfeugo - 2011-11-10 00:13

      It is a matter of the tail wagging the dog (a very scared dog with no bite anymore). Ja Cosmos its too late.

      ekfeugo - 2011-11-10 00:29

      The examinations he refers to can only be some doctor wants to examine him. Remember he was ill awhile ago.

      Vusi - 2011-11-10 00:33

      @RPhiri. Yes something is fishy. I don't know where I missed something, but what exam is he writing now? Didn't even know he was studying anything. When does he have time to attend classes if he is running around creating havoc all the time? Surely a week before exams you wouldn't go partying in Mauritius? Unless you are a genius, like he seems to think he is!

      rbphiri - 2011-11-10 01:04

      @ Vusi Ha ha ha, from a trip to Mauritius his purple barney the dinosaur suit will be tailored to an orange jump suit at Sun City.

      Brian - 2011-11-10 05:49

      Everyone talks about POWER. A strange comment, given that the people in question are elected to government as SERVANTS OF THE PEOPLE. Where does the power thing come into the equation? They should be helping others, NOT themselves. POWER! Bloody rubbish!

      Kevin - 2011-11-10 05:59

      Who cares what the anc goes?They do not count. The thing to get excited about is what the Hawks do with fat boy. I think there will be 100's of charges. Believe a new song is being written. Leeeeeeuwkop ,Leeeeeeeuwkop, I am waiting for you , you look so good in orange , beats purple anyday

      Gwaa - 2011-11-10 07:14

      GO JULIUS!! GO GO JULIUS!! You are a visionary! One of the few people to stand up and speak out!! Hoi pappa looi! Just keep doing what you are doing... Everybody commenting here will soon become your followers! Hiep hiep... Hoera for Julius!

      Oneant - 2011-11-10 07:20

      power without discipline and ethics is not power, its greed. And not all the money and trimmings in the world can ever change that.

      Oneant - 2011-11-10 07:32

      @Brian : It is African tribal culture to consider democracy a form of Monarchy. Why else do most of the leaders stay in power for 30+ years whilst ensuring their people live in squander. When the playing field is occasionally leveled, its only a matter of time before factions and infighting results in the same. Hence the African condition. But all is good in love and war when you can blame the colonists.

      Youefoh - 2011-11-10 08:06

      Marmite MONSTER is going down! Well, lets hope! I still think nothing will be done!

  • Willem - 2011-11-09 23:11

    Rewriting his matric woodwork?

      rbphiri - 2011-11-10 00:24

      His trying to make the Pinochios in parliament proud. TIMBERRRRRR!!! the league branch is about to fall.

      Kate - 2011-11-10 06:29

      It is a complete waste of paper and ink.

      Gwaa - 2011-11-10 07:15

      GO JULIUS!! GO GO JULIUS!! You are a visionary! One of the few people to stand up and speak out!! Hoi pappa looi! Just keep doing what you are doing... Everybody commenting here will soon become your followers! Hiep hiep... Hoera for Julius!

      Mark - 2011-11-10 07:46

      Gwaa..what name is that..either you are stirring or you are as stupid as fat boy..if I may..maybe you should go back to school as well.

      Pur - 2011-11-10 09:24

      Nope - its Standard 4 woodwork.

  • Bob - 2011-11-09 23:17

    Malema is indeed the MOST inncorregible individual, if indeed he is one, on planet Earth

      Gwaa - 2011-11-10 07:15

      GO JULIUS!! GO GO JULIUS!! You are a visionary! One of the few people to stand up and speak out!! Hoi pappa looi! Just keep doing what you are doing... Everybody commenting here will soon become your followers! Hiep hiep... Hoera for Julius!

      steve.dupreez - 2011-11-10 07:33

      I agree - even in his absence he's giving the whole of South Africa the finger!

      sean.redmond3 - 2011-11-10 08:12

      @gwaaaaaaa: You have posted the same rubbish three (3) times now, nobody has taken the bait. Troll.

  • TamaraSays - 2011-11-09 23:35

    I really hope that they end him - but I won't be holding my breath. The ANC seems to be a toothless organisation, who have resigned themselves to stealing as much as possible, and nothing else, for as long as they can.

      Vusi - 2011-11-09 23:46

      Well said Tamara. That is what it is, nothing more, nothing less!

  • opinionater - 2011-11-09 23:38

    i wont hold my breathe if our glorious government forms a spine and a pair of testicles before malemas final hearing tomrrow...i reckon another slap on the wrist...as always...

  • duettists - 2011-11-09 23:39

    He should be facing the music personally - not writing exams!

  • Jo - 2011-11-09 23:45

    I think he's busy writing out 1 000 lines: I must not bring the ruling party into disrepute.

      rbphiri - 2011-11-10 00:33

      Ha ha ha Jo you killing me man. Probably they might just consider this as an option of punishing him, since they have their tails between their legs when it comes to dishing out punishment.

      Vusi - 2011-11-10 00:53

      LOL LOL LOL Very Funny!!!!!!

  • opinionater - 2011-11-10 00:09

    Vusi man i wish everyone had the right idea as you, i've been on news24 an been reading CRAP from black guys saying that malema is their savior and all that crap, but your not blind to the truth an you know that the anc is rotten to the core and so is malema...thanks dude, your comments are rocking!

      Vusi - 2011-11-10 00:55

      Thanks Opinionater. We have to think soberly about all of the issues and decide, do we want another Zimbabwe and repeat 30 years of their history, or move on!

  • Thabo - 2011-11-10 00:28

    if Malema wont get suspension this time then the ANC is saying Malema is indeed strong.The DC is expected to act according to what they promised Malema last time.Unless Malema is sent to do what he is doing and is protected by the whole ANC including Mr Pres.But what would happen to Mr Pres if Malema is gaining more power after the DC,especially if suspension is less considered.Mr Pres are you accepting that this boy was just giving you a taste of that chair and now he will remove you?its not funny but for really can you see Mr Pres that this boy is now electing a president,he is deciding who is gona be the next South African pres and the rest they follow indirect or direct.So should I agree that Malema and his crew is powerful than the ANC?Am not clear now as to when does Mr Malema reach a boundry.Clearly,they(ANC) are scared of Malema(bayamsaba)or he is just powerfull if they fail to suspend him.Am I in a banana republic or am just blind, or that is how things work here?Can somebody volunteer to show the desperate party what is to discipline since ANC seems to be scared,any volunteer?what is a DC according to the ANC?How many times does anybody has to appear before DC and then be really disciplined?before Mangaung or after Mangaung?

      Kenjaymay - 2011-11-10 01:16

      Thabo what does "Bayamsaba" mean?..... Brainless bleader or Brainless leader? No seriously, what does it mean?

      Mike - 2011-11-10 01:17

      @ Thabo: Your comments would be much easier to read & understand if you remembered to type spaces after full stops, commas & question marks.

      Had - 2011-11-10 07:00

      Thabo - Don't worry about Mike - We appreciate your comments

      sean.redmond3 - 2011-11-10 08:18

      @Thabo, I agree with Mike, it would be an easier read. Think on it, Thanks.

  • nozukol - 2011-11-10 01:40

    Juju is a trouble maker. Investors are leaving and really we will be a second Zimbabwe very soon because of Malema, he is rude, undisciplened..... I just wonder if how would be this country if he can be a president........... We are tired of un-educated leaders bcoz they care much about their riches more than the economy of our country. South Africa is not for politicians but everybody who lives in it, poor nor rich, white, black, indians, coloured etc we belong we all belong to SA. I do not see anyone with leadership qualities in the ANC these days, maybe is still going to be born or is that person they do not want him or her to voice out and be heard. Shame my country is lead by people who do not know what they want for our country. They do not know where they are going but to misuse money........... Blind people!!!!!!!! SA make up yo minds, you have all power to take these people out, it is all up to you!!

      Had - 2011-11-10 07:04

      Unfortunately the masses had the wool pulled over their eyes before the last elections. We will have to endure another 4 years of incompetence & corruption before the next elections. That is if the ANC doesn't declare South Africa a one party State before then.

  • Peter - 2011-11-10 03:27

    Wash your mouth out with soap sonny...then attend the political school to control your anger....distract the media from your personal riches....give the unemployed and poor some more breadcrumbs and fairytales.....dont disagree with pappa bears....and ja, you will be ok (after all..who will the newspapers write about if you're not in the frontline anymore ?

  • Kevin - 2011-11-10 05:55

    Absent- Has he ever been present. He is not worried as he knows the NEC is scared of him .

  • Paul - 2011-11-10 06:18

    News24 JM is writing a Political Science exam today. Your 'night' editor needs to get himself a 'day' job.

      Had - 2011-11-10 07:07

      If Malema ever gets a degree through his own ability & without bribery & corruption - I will eat my hat.

  • sb.prins1 - 2011-11-10 06:28

    . Don't think you'll be in power forever. People aren't as stupid as you think we are. We know you sit around laughing about how much you get away with. We'll take you down, either at the polls - or if it comes down to the wire - by revolution (Yes, Julius, the real kind, not the one you imagine happened in 2008). Careless, wasteful and wanton government is a thing of the past. The days of thin propaganda and idealized struggle are over. The people put you in power - they will take you out of it. Africa is tired of tin-pot dictators, one-party states and banana republics. We know who we are now, we care about our future - and so should you. Stop squabbling over power. Offices are not there for you to occupy (or be deployed to) and aggrandize yourself. Offices in government are there to provide a service. If you think outrageous salaries, big German cars, first-class travel and state housing are the reasons to aspire to leadership, you're in the wrong business - you should be working for a dysfunctional, tumbledown parastatal (or Glenn Agliotti). We don't care who the Chairperson of the National Council of Provinces is if we don't have running water, electricity, schools and clean streets. You work for us. Do your job, don't imagine you ARE your job.

  • Mthuthuzeli - 2011-11-10 06:34

    What Malema cannot do is be a Mandela 2.0, sacrifice Black advancement on the altar of white sensibilities. Which is why Julius Malema is the best thing that has happened to South Africa in a very long time! For the first time since 1994, SA has a vigorous young leader who finally challenges issues Mandela gingerly avoided. Julius is rough, crude and undiplomatic. He takes SA back to the unfinished (or unstarted) job on pre-1994 Black SA. As unpolished as he might be, he is the necessary FIRST DRAFT that the ANC needs as a template to build on as they embark on policy refinement and modification to cater for their people FIRST before the interest of any foreign entity, including western media and corporations.

      Andrew - 2011-11-10 06:49

      Mthuthuzeli, you should remove the pink coloured glasses and smell the roses. The country is going backwards at a fast rate with investments drying up, no jobs for thousands of youth, calls for taking land without paying. That in my book is stealing. Nationalize mines without recompense and very little expertise to run these mines, not to mention money for expansion and growth to create jobs. Not a great picture for future South Africans.

      Elle-Black - 2011-11-10 06:51

      Mthuthuzeli do you honestly believe that Malema cares about anyone but himself? He is using the desparate situation that most people find themselves in to his advantage. He cannot do half of the things that he promises. This is the man who wanted to make eating sushi off half naked womens bodies a culture of the ANC,he does not miss a event that has to do with partying where he and his buddies drink Moet like they are drinking water,so tell me again do you really think someone like that really cares about the poor?

      Had - 2011-11-10 07:09

      What a lot of c%%p.

      Jeffrey - 2011-11-10 07:12

      Mthuthuzeli; I like your confidence that this country is capable of finding a leader to lead it out of the dark, but your conviction that Malema is the one to do it is misplaced. See Thabo's comments above. Someone once said that power and control should only be given to those who don't want it. Those that strive for these positions are doing it for personal reasons. The crap that Malema constantly spews is indicative of his personal agenda - 'personal', not 'for the country'. Your Che Guevara avatar speaks to your need for revolution; one that surely must come (since the supposedly democratic process isnt working), but anyone who would wish to continue living in SA after such event cannot possibly want Malema to be the one at the top of the subsequent Ponzi government. Your opening statement is double-edged, but I'm taking it as a positive attitude. You're just backing the wrong horse on this one.

      New - 2011-11-10 07:18

      @Mthuthuzeli. Go watch this - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17m8OnHC7dQ. This will shock you and maybe put some sense in you.

      Mthuthuzeli - 2011-11-10 08:14

      Forcibly silencing Malema or somehow getting rid of him will not work as someone else will just step into his shoes. Many posts here also reflects how viciously opposed to any changes at all that large sections of the SA community are. The YL kicked Mbeki out of office and Zuma put in place as one of their reasons precisely because it wants to see the pace of reforms quickened through a political process. They will take things out of the political process and into their own hands if they are ignored and noone will be able to stop them.

  • jwdupreez - 2011-11-10 06:56

    Julis doing examination - Ha Ha - he is re-doing his medical examination He failed the first time

  • Michael - 2011-11-10 07:13

    Shame give the guy a break - the Grade 12:Standard Grade Wood work is tough! Why would he worry about his hearing. Good indication of his ethic!

  • swavka - 2011-11-10 07:14

    He is probably romancing his new hottie. can someone tell me - if he is writing exams does he go into the exam room with ALL his bodyguards and the other stooges. As they always seem to do everything together. How does that work? If we don't know what a + b = then can we pass it round to everyone else to see who gets the answer.

  • lioneldelange - 2011-11-10 07:23

    Fatboy once again showing disrespect for the court, authorities and his so called peers. Why not be the big strong tough freedom fighter and face your charges,a**hole.

  • Ubabamkhulu - 2011-11-10 07:25

    Vandag is vandag! Iemand, hy gaan huil!!

  • lawson.lutchman - 2011-11-10 07:27

    How batung!!! what kind of examinations are we talking about here....

  • hvklein - 2011-11-10 07:43

    Nothing will happen to that moron. Our deputy already saw to that with his speech, that only the worst are expelled from the ANC. Unfortunately that statement is true. They don't expel them, they recruit them and give them government positions. If they are family they are given the opportunity to buy 18 or more cars, because they are mining magnates, no clue about mining, and have to walk carefully on the surface, because they are so fat that they might cause a collapse underground! They stuff up the environment and don't pay their workers! But as members of "prominent" families they get away with it and who knows, a government job may be waiting round the corner!

  • Peter - 2011-11-10 07:43

    What is the point of a 1 year suspension, so he is going to get a 1 year holiday and full pay!!!! This is a joke why are the ANC so scared of this little boy, please can someone tell me?? I am begining to also have concerns about our Deputy President, he has alway been very quiet and I have always had respect for him but based on his statements it seems to me that he could actually be a snake in the grass working very closely with Malema to ensure his own success! Why is African politics so often about help individuals and not the nation!!!!!!

  • Vincent - 2011-11-10 07:47

    The ANC the malema puppets !!!

  • henrileriche - 2011-11-10 07:52

    I see the "firebrand" cliche has caught on in SA media. First started by US media. If a white guy sing to shoot blacks etc. etc. the media would waste no time in calling him a racist....? Sounds like black racism is deliberately watered down by the media....media double standards is old news by now for some of us. People are waking up specifically to biased reporting on racial issues.

  • Marion - 2011-11-10 07:54

    ANC : Keep your friends close and your enemies closer... Whatever you do now will determine how much free time he has to plot and plan and grow his supporter base. I just hope that if he is suspended / expelled that the media will stop giving him a platform of any kind to express his views on any subject whatsoever. Stop promoting him and his agenda. Send him into the media wilderness when the only thing that will be worth reporting on is the day he is found guilty of fraud and corruption.

  • Patrick - 2011-11-10 07:55

    @Gwaa.Be careful what you wish for as you might just get it. Countless thousands of imbeciles like yourself gave Mad Bob Mugabe their blind support and every single one of them ( those still alive of course) is unemployed, starving or a refugee in this country. Fat Boy Juju does'nt give a s%&t about you, you moron but if you are right that Juju is the future, you will suffer along with all other South Africans.

      Felix - 2011-11-10 08:01

      She's a troll, check her fb page.

  • peta.davidtsz - 2011-11-10 07:58

    have any of you thought to start talking to your domestic workers about the truth of politics and SA history. Most of them dont have the luxury of internet access, or the money to spend on news papers, and are thus kept in the dark. I started to do so a few months ago, and she is so greatful that I print articles for her to keep her, and through her, her friends and families informed of the financial wastage etc. If we, the priveledged dont reach out and break down the borders of information flow, the masses will not be informed enough to change their vote. As I explained, I dont care who is in power, as long as they spend the money wisely, and the best option for this country is a 50/50 split (or close to) so that one of the parties can watch the other party (and visa versa) to keep a balance on the books and services etc, as both are equally responsible for service delivery... if we all take some time and bother to teach the full history (from when settlement happened, the settlement patterns and the history between our races) then all the people will be empowered to make informed decisions. This is something that each one of us can do instead of commenting to others who are just as priveledged as we are to have internet access! I explained why the "whites" are complaining about the government and shared the News24 articles and explained we dont really care what colour the person is who leads us, as long as they know what they are doing and dont rob the poor!

  • nicn44 - 2011-11-10 07:59

    Examinations ? of course,he is examining the most profitable tender from the corrupt limpopo crooks (I nearly called them government but they not worthy of that title)

  • Chirpy - 2011-11-10 08:06

    Report just come in.. Fatboy writing exams hence absence from disciplinary announcement. What, grade one??

  • Michelle - 2011-11-10 09:22

    The Times this morning say that he's writing a Political Science exam - wonder if he even knows how to SPELL it!

  • pretoriawebdesigner - 2011-11-10 10:58

    So Julias is under a double suspended suspension.

  • jorgepitu.perezsoto - 2011-11-10 11:38

    Tests....... Maybe at the docs office..... its just a way to not be involved with the media if this turned out the way it did, so that he didnt have to look like a fool infront of the whole country!

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