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DA lodges complaint about tolls

2012-01-16 19:00

Johannesburg - The Democratic Alliance in Gauteng lodged a complaint about toll collection with the National Consumer Tribunal on Monday.

"We have taken this step as we do not believe the battle against the tolls is over even though the February implementation date has been delayed," the party said.

The DA said it believed the planned tolls infringed sections of the Consumer Protection Act which protected consumers from unfair, unreasonable and unjust practices.

Grounds for opposing it include the fact that toll road users had to give access to their bank accounts for unknown amounts to be deducted for e-tolling.

There was also a high possibility of error or fraud during this process, and there was no clarity on how incorrectly deducted amounts would be refunded, the DA said.

Some of the more than 200 000 people who had already registered for e-tolling said they had not been told about administrative fees, such as a R5 charge for statements sent in the post.

Unfair discrimination

In addition, the exclusion of certain classes such as taxis was unfair discrimination, the DA said.

Last year, the SA National Roads Agency Limited (Sanral) announced that tolling was imminent on 185km of the N1, N3, N12 and R21 around Johannesburg and Tshwane.

In terms of the Gauteng Freeway Improvement Project, these roads and their interchanges had been improved and costs estimated at about R20bn will be recouped through toll charges.

Light motor vehicles are expected to be charged R0.40/km, medium vehicles R1/km, "longer" vehicles R2/km, and bikers R0.24/km.

Qualifying commuter taxis and buses would be exempted entirely.

Sanral announced on Friday that e-tolling had been placed on hold, following a meeting on Thursday with Transport Minister Sibusiso Ndebele and a huge outcry that the tolls were unaffordable.

Comments
  • Hermann - 2012-01-16 19:14

    "..... the fact that toll road users had to give access to their bank accounts...." - there we go what an open invitation to THEFT - I will not give anyone access to my bank account."

      John - 2012-01-16 19:52

      When is the ANC going to do the same? “ The Gang of Four Chinese Communist Party members came to power during the Cultural Revolution (1966–76), and were charged with a series of treasonous crimes. The gang consisted of Jiang Qing, Mao Zedong's last wife as the leading figure of the group, and her close associates Zhang Chunqiao, Yao Wenyuan, and Wang Hongwen. In 1980, the trials of the Gang of Four began. Among the prosecution’s charge of actual crimes were the usurpation of state power and party leadership; the persecution of some 750,000 people, 34,375 of whom died during the period 1966-76. It was at this trial that Jiang Qing made the famous quote: "I was Chairman Mao's dog. I bit whomever he asked me to bite." Jiang Qing was sentenced to death in 1981. “ Source Wikipidia. I was inspired to write a song commemorating the death of such evil people: Shoot the dogs, Shoot the dogs, Shoot the dogs of Mao Tse Tsung! Auss! Auss, Auss! Auss! Auss Auss! Shoot the dogs, Shoot the dogs, Shoot the dogs of Jiang Qing! Auss! Auss, Auss! Auss! Auss Auss! Shoot the dogs, Shoot the dogs, Shoot the dogs Gang of Four! Auss! Auss, Auss! Auss! Auss Auss!

      John - 2012-01-16 20:10

      What about the user pays principle for all the money which they give away? Free electricity. Free water. Free grants. Free this, that and the other! LET THOSE USERS PAY!

      yola.me - 2012-01-17 08:17

      I am definately not registering for this etoll. They must find other ways. ANd most of all, taxis are the one who use the roads the most but they are exempted??? Because taxi owners dont put their money in the bank, hence they DONT EVEN PAY TAX like us. All they do is show they get profit of R500 per month while the rest of the money is somewhere in a skhaftina in their homes.

      Bloody-Agent - 2012-01-17 10:05

      Pretty soon they will start tolling us for using the sidewalks when walking to work as we probably wont be able to afford to drive to work with the increasing petrol price and toll fees!! Did you know the petrol price in Venezuela is less than R1 Per liter! Food for thought...

      Ann - 2012-01-17 13:26

      Par for the course - ANC = THIEVES!!!

  • Ian - 2012-01-16 19:23

    Firstly, the whole thing stinks of corruption. The bulk of this money will go to Australia (who will implement and administer this scam) and of course,senior ANC connected cadres. The whole thing must be scrapped. If they ram it trough legistration, then all motor vehicles should travel free exept for taxis, who pay no tax whatsoever but are primarily resposible for road deteriation. This will be the only way they will contibute in some small way to SARS and the wellbeing of this country.

      brianmacza - 2012-01-16 20:34

      "primarily responsible for road deterioration"? Thats a tad biased. The REAL reason for road deterioration was misapprpriation of the road fund kitty and neglecting to keep up routine maintenance of the road infrastructure. Emotional rants are all very well, but they do tend to miss the mark.

      Piet - 2012-01-16 20:45

      The roads are in the state they are because Transnet went to the Cadres!

  • jmonku - 2012-01-16 19:25

    Another Gauteng billing system on the way..... just don't ask questions pay and query later....

  • davidmarctaylor - 2012-01-16 19:47

    The bottom line is, why did the government allow these tolls to go ahead without decent public transport in place? They keep harping on about how this is standard practice in most European countries, but they fail to mention that the price per km or mile is less then ours when you take the standard of living into account, and in addition, they HAVE decent, safe, reliable public transport in place. The only word for this toll system is extortion. This government can't run this country effectively, they can't even run a bath...

  • Anthony - 2012-01-16 19:55

    If the DA does this to get some extra votes, no problem !! Well done !!!!!!!

  • ReunionofIntelligentMinds - 2012-01-16 19:57

    How STUPID can those over 200 000 people be to submit your bank details/debit order to a strange person. How trusting are those employees of e-toll? I wouldn't sleep easy at night and change my banking details pronto.

      Piet - 2012-01-16 20:43

      They reckon it is Government vehicles...

  • Alan - 2012-01-16 20:25

    @ DA Please advise what action the rate payers of Gauteng can take tp help stop this theft (e- toll) from getting off the ground ?????? To those 200 000 'yellow bellies' that paid for e-toll, and were stupid enough to give their banking details, i can only say i hope you get what you desive... That your bank accounts get cleaned out !!!! PLEASE BOYCOTT THE E-TOLL AND DON'T BUY DISC'S WE WANT IT TO FAIL AND BECOME ANOTHER "WHITE ELEPHANT "OF THE ANC !

  • Piet - 2012-01-16 20:41

    What are you all moaning about? Just drive and do not pay any attention to the gantries above!

  • robqb - 2012-01-16 21:09

    What's happening to the money collected in licence fees as well as fuel taxes? I have a feeling this money is being sourced to something besides road upkeep! We should not have tolling except on "new" roads. Keep your eyes open, it wont be long before the Cape gets tolls on "2nd hand" roads!

      Ronald - 2012-01-16 23:00

      Last year the government collected R34.4 Billion in fuel levies alone. Of this amount, only R6.8 Billion was paid over to Sanral towards their non toll road budget of R7,78 Billion. The Sanral budget for toll roads ia for their own account, therefore the auction of shares. These figures as per Sanral and the Dept of Finance. The rest was dispersed to the different government departments. The government is stealing from the road going public as all the funds are supposed to go towards maintenance, upgrades and new roads. This is why Sanral is so desperate for the toll roads to be implemented. I would like to know from someone out there if what the government is doing regarding the pay out of the fuel levy monies is legal.

  • Gerhard - 2012-01-16 21:13

    40% of municipalities in this country in deep financial problems??? We do not need the ANC just because of that. Every ANC member should bow his head in shame. The ANC is not able to run something as simple as a municipality never mind a whole country. 449 of countrywide sewage plants are not run properly because all the qualified staff was replaced with cadres. When this was brought to the attention of JZ he forbid publication of this, lest it create panic amongst the population.

  • gary.sachs - 2012-01-16 21:16

    What is required is ensuring that trucks drive well under the speed limit in a safe way, not tolls. You need to focus on saving lives and not on money making rackets. Today I saw a taxi drive straight through a red light after it had already turned green for me to go. How arrogant can one taxi driver get? Enough is enough. This is anti-life and life threatening bad behavior. Shape up or get off South African roads so that our children are able to grow up safely in South Africa!

  • simphiwe.langa1 - 2012-01-16 21:43

    Viva DA Viva!

  • pagial - 2012-01-17 07:31

    Lets all use taxis and see who will pay for this toll... lol!

      John - 2012-01-17 08:05

      If they were safe to use I would consider it. But at present not a chance?

  • EttieneC - 2012-01-17 09:27

    Yea, you not getting more of my money you theiving ANC and SANRAL dogs. Its already bad enough you just hand out my PAYE as a grant, and shove my VAT into your pocket. You spent my FUEL taxes on what? Obviously not the roads... because now you want to milk me some more? Forget it. I will not give way to your corruption! DOWN WITH THE ANC & ITS CORRUPT LEADERS AND "FRIENDS"

  • Debbie - 2012-01-17 10:53

    Taxis and buses exempt, do not need to be a rocket scientist to see who they trying to screw more money out of!!! Its about time we stood up for ourselves instead of just whining about it!! Let them know we have had enough of carrying this country financially! Everybody is suffering not just eh black people in this country but everybody, electricity up by 300% and on and on.....we cannot carry on like this soon the 90% of tax payers will also be bankrupt then what!!!

  • Delton - 2012-01-17 11:18

    The reason why they are exempting taxis is that they will barricade the highways and burn down the tolls. They also thought that this would endear them to COSATU but thankfully COSATU has seen the disastrous downstream economic impact to their people. VIVA DA! VIVA Afriforum! , the only ones with a backbone.

  • Hugh - 2012-01-17 11:34

    First and foremost, any upgrades for infrastructure falls into a capital expenditure. These funds are NOT supposed to be for the client or users account, but fall into the business upgrades of assets. Since a government is supposedly run like a business, this expenditure should be budgeted for and capitalised. See the definition of Capex. Capital expenditures are expenditures creating future benefits. A CAPEX is incurred when a business spends money either to buy fixed assets or to add to the value of an existing fixed asset with a useful life extending beyond the taxable year. CAPEX is used by a company to acquire or upgrade physical assets such as equipment, property, or industrial buildings. In accounting, a capital expenditure is added to an asset account ("capitalized"), thus increasing the asset's basis. CAPEX is commonly found on the cash flow statement under "Investment in Plant Property and Equipment" or something similar in the Investing subsection. Secondly, this government has just declared a R25Bil loss on fruitless and wasteful expenditure. This in one year would have paid for these improvements and more. Some idiots are maintaining that someone has to pay for the improvements but in fact, we have already.

  • anthonyangiev - 2012-01-17 12:20

    We pay TAXES, pay TOLL FEES, etc but yet we still have pot holes in front of our drive way!! I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS WE ARE PAYING ALL THESE TAXES FOR????

  • anthonyangiev - 2012-01-17 12:24

    We pay TAXES, pay TOLL FEES, etc but yet we still have pot holes in front of our drive way!! I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS WE ARE PAYING ALL THESE TAXES FOR????

  • zee.kimble - 2012-01-28 22:08

    There is no way in HELL that I will give ANYONE that is remotely connected to our government access to my personal bank account. They can drag me to court, do as they wish, I will fight it with force!!!

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