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DA not allowed to march near Cosatu HQ

2012-05-14 19:37

Johannesburg - The DA will not be allowed to march near Cosatu's headquarters in Johannesburg on Tuesday, the city's metro police said.

"A security assessment was done and it was decided that the route would be changed so that speeches are done at a neutral venue," spokesperson Chief Superintendent Wayne Minnaar said late on Monday. "They won't be allowed near Cosatu House."

Minnaar said around 3 000 marchers were expected to converge at Beyers Naudé Square.

The march would start at 11:00 and proceed to President, Rissik, Jeppe, Sauer, Burger, Jorissen, Melle and Simmonds streets.

It would end on the lawns of the Johannesburg Civic Theatre.

The Democratic Alliance planned to march over job losses, spokesperson Kelly Miller said earlier.

"The march is to protest against the trade [union] federation's continued opposition to the youth wage subsidy, a policy that could create an estimated 423,000 jobs for young, unemployed South Africans," she said.

Miller said the Congress of SA Trade Unions (Cosatu) had become the key stumbling block to job creation.

DA leader Helen Zille, DA youth leader Makashule Gana, the party's parliamentary leader Lindiwe Mazibuko and its national spokesperson Mmusi Maimane would lead the march.

Earlier, the African National Congress urged the opposition not to march, saying it would "heighten unnecessary tension".

"If the DA has any view regarding the issues of labour brokers and youth wage subsidy, our contention is that they must engage with Cosatu rather than being confrontational and provocative," ANC spokesperson Jackson Mthembu said in a statement.

"The only way, in our view, that any of the parties can influence one another and even influence government around these matters is through meaningful engagement."

Mthembu said the decision to march was "ill-informed and opportunistic".

"We would like to remind the Democratic Alliance that Cosatu is not a public service institution, but... a private workers' federation.

"It therefore boggles the mind why the DA would march to a private institution that has no legal authority with regard to the implementation of government policy and policy direction."

Apartheid apologists

Meanwhile, the National Union of Metalworkers of SA (Numsa) called on all workers to help it defend Cosatu against the DA.

"We welcome this class provocation and we will grab this opportunity to be frontal against white monopoly," it said in a joint statement on Sunday.

"We call on the workers and the youth to occupy the streets outside Cosatu House on Tuesday. We cannot allow the DA to mock us.... They now want to spit on the shield of the black and African working class."

It said the DA was a "representative of white monopoly capital and apartheid apologists".

On Tuesday, Numsa would be joined by the Progressive Youth Alliance, the ANC Youth League, the SA Students' Congress and the Young Communist League of SA.

"This DA march marks the beginnings of an open class warfare that will characterise the South African landscape," it said.

"We also view this open class warfare as a reflection of the deepening class antagonisms in our society."

DA spokesperson Pierre-Charl du Preez said the party had noted the statement by the affiliate unions regarding the march.

"We have also noted their implicit threats of violence, their declaration of open political warfare, and their promise to mobilise their members to meet us at Cosatu House."

He said the statements were "blustering threats" and attempts to draw attention away from their "indefensible opposition to the youth wage subsidy and their own hypocrisy."

"We are not distracted or intimidated by their provocations. If anything, it only strengthens our resolve to stand up for the right of all South Africans to access the economy, find work, and build a better life."

He said none of the affiliates had applied for permission to gather or march.

Comments
  • Smili - 2012-05-14 19:49

    Both Cosato and ANC have pulled strings with the metro police! This is undermining our democracy! "We have also noted their implicit threats of violence, their declaration of open political warfare, and their promise to mobilise their members to meet us at Cosatu House." COSTU's leaders are disgusting pigs! They have destroyed the economy and now they are trying to silence opposition parties! They are trying to kill our democracy! They don't care about the unemployed youth! They only care about the pockets of the ANC leaders! DOWN WITH VAVI! DOWN WITH ZUMA! VIVA YOUTH OF SA! VIVA DA YOUTH League! The ANC have betrayed the youth of SA!

      Sechaba30 - 2012-05-14 19:52

      There is nothing special about DA , it has to apply to march like everyone.

      tobydt - 2012-05-14 20:04

      Sechaba - It has. The other bunch of morons didnt apply for permits.

      Smili - 2012-05-14 20:15

      VIVA DAYL! VIVA YOUTH OF SA! THE DA FIGHT FOR ECONOMIC FREEDOM FOR THE YOUTH OF SA!

      tobydt - 2012-05-14 20:29

      Smili - Amandla! Awethu!

  • tobydt - 2012-05-14 19:51

    Go March to Cosatu. The f***ing unions and the YL march anywhere they want to. On top of that, they destroy as they go along.

      Jackie - 2012-05-14 19:59

      @Sinudeity and what would you be doing, sipping a black coffee in your middle office

      tobydt - 2012-05-14 20:08

      Paying taxes to support these hooligans that vandalise as they march. While sipping my black coffee.

      Jackie - 2012-05-14 20:14

      @Sinudeity So why are you encouraging them to go to the march if you think they are hooligans and vandalizes thing. As for paying tax, people have been paying tax from the time BC, even during apartheid. Beside is not like you are paying more than we do, why are we not complaining, and how you expecting the government of the people to get by its business.

      tobydt - 2012-05-14 20:22

      Jackie - These are the marchers that destroy and vandalise: Numsa, Progressive Youth Alliance, the ANC Youth League, the SA Students' Congress and the Young Communist League of SA. "As for paying tax, people have been paying tax from the time BC, even during apartheid. Beside is not like you are paying more than we do, why are we not complaining" Oh yeah, you do complain. Violently. Burning down schools, libraries etc. We are the ones suffering in silence. The government of the people? LOL, thats rich. You mean the government of the fat and the self-enriching?

      Jackie - 2012-05-14 20:31

      @Sinudeity "...We are the ones suffering in silence.." Who is we, because I am not suffering at all.

      tobydt - 2012-05-14 20:40

      Jackie - Yeah you are, you just wount admit it.

      Jackie - 2012-05-14 20:53

      @Sinudeity I am not suffering, I pay as I earn and would like to see my contribution going to a good course in helping the poor, so they could improve their life. I am thankful I went to university through other people's taxes and have not personally paid a single cent towards studies. So as long as my tax is helping others I can't complain

      tobydt - 2012-05-14 21:11

      Jackie - "I am not suffering, I pay as I earn and would like to see my contribution going to a good course in helping the poor, so they could improve their life." In that case, you need to get behind the DA's youth subsidies. Otherwise, all your talk about 'helping the poor' is merely lip service. "I am thankful I went to university through other people's taxes and have not personally paid a single cent towards studies." Im assuming SETA's? You do realise that you need to repay the varsity fees right? Otherwise you are preventing the next unfortunate student from attending. I can understand why you are not suffering, you are not repaying your debt to society.

      thebe.tau - 2012-05-14 21:18

      @PeggySven sorry to dissapoint you but South Africa was built by the Gold and Diamonds and all the other natural resources, sorry try again.

      Jackie - 2012-05-14 21:24

      @PeggySven where is your source of reference? and how am I wrong because you are confirming what I just wrote, or did I say blacks were paying tax? Obviously if their salary was below the taxable amount, they would not have paid but that earned the taxable amount they obviously did pay because there is no way the apartheid government would have giving blacks their hard-earned cash without taxing them, they would rather have them over-taxed. Even now there are whites who don't pay tax simply because they are not earning a taxable salary, but now at least it all depend on how much one is earning.

      Kevin - 2012-05-14 23:35

      Jackie you make lots of comments and display a frightening level of ignorance. People have not been paying tax since BC. Income tax was first introduced at the time of the Napoleonic Wars in Britain to pay for the war. There was no sales tax and vat until recently. the only taxes BC were tolls on the transport of goods and people. (In reality more like the ransom charged by the Somali pirates.

  • David - 2012-05-14 19:56

    aah shame...the ANC and fellow cronies think they can go where they want and do what they want but when the DA follows suit with similar behaviour then the ANC and cronies cry foul...bullies are the biggest cry babies in school and in life....the ANC bullyboy machine with its blue lights and tsotsi police are going to go down...

  • Michele - 2012-05-14 20:00

    I am now sick of the unions trying to tell everybody what they can and cannot do, they have become much to powerfull under Zuma's watch. I am cancelling my membership tomorrow.

  • tobydt - 2012-05-14 20:00

    Glad Im not associated with a movement that seeks to destroy South Africa (ANC).

      Smili - 2012-05-14 20:11

      You Mean: You are glad you are not associated with the ANC whom seeks to destroy SOUTH AFRICA ;) I read it and it seemed a bit skew :P

      Jackie - 2012-05-14 20:20

      HEHEHE Plagiarism, you know you got to acknowledge the source right?

      tobydt - 2012-05-14 20:24

      I'll acknowledge the source. Incompetent and corrupt ANC scumbags.

      tobydt - 2012-05-14 20:26

      Jackie - Tell me, which party dumped 3 tons of textbooks (Even though there is a massive shortage of textbooks) at the paper recycling plant?

      Jackie - 2012-05-14 20:35

      Party? Really? thus the problem you can't separate things. The government is not a party, but answering your question, I really don't know but I am gonna take a flyer, is it not the Education MEC (DA Member)

      Greg - 2012-05-14 20:47

      Jackie: Tosser the DA and any other opposition party does not govern the ungovernable Eastern Cape.

      tobydt - 2012-05-14 20:48

      Jackie - The ANC cant seperate the party from state. Its a little bizzare how the ANC supporters suddenly try and distinguish the difference between the two when it suits them. Mandla Makupula (Education MEC of ECape) is a DA member?! Eish, think you'd better check ur facts next time.

  • tobydt - 2012-05-14 20:03

    COSATU and the ANC only care about the people who have jobs, not about the unemployed. Hence, they want to fight labour brokers, but block youth subsidies.

      alansmartSnr - 2012-05-15 01:10

      @ every one.. these comments from both sides are so depressing. I had hoped after the united opposition to the e-tolls one would have thought that some form of sanity would prevail. The DA, to my mind could have engaged, and kept on engaging COSATU on this issue - from that angle they stood on high moral ground. Lets face it- their reasons are very valid. In opposing the Youth Wage subsidy they COSATU are preventing 400,000 + unemployed young people from being able to put bread on the table. Getting jobs and softening poverty to quite a large extent. They (DA) could have engaged them in more constructive way. On the other side of the coin, COSATU could have negotiated a settlement and perhaps compromised by eg. a time line, or even a figure or even conditions that they would implement this by resignations or with death of employers.. in other words, a gradual implementation. BTW Im not an ex nat. Was a member of the progressive party, who tried our best to get the victims of Apartheid a better deal - some might remember Helen Suzman.. she was one of my Hero's. The DA's action is moraly right but their method is just shooting themselves in the foot.

  • Michele - 2012-05-14 20:05

    Democracy at work....

  • Piet - 2012-05-14 20:13

    Please DA, we do not need to march. Marching is what the ANC does. We are being pulled down to their level...O

      Eye's Que - 2012-05-14 20:34

      Ja, I agree. Don't lower yourself D.A. to their standards. Because half the time they don't know what they are doing, they toy toy/march/vandalise/steal!!! We are above that, open dialogue with the people that really want things to be better is preferable to equating yourselves to the A.N.C. that doesn't actually know what it wants.

  • Sheda - 2012-05-14 20:20

    POLICE STATE

  • Sonja - 2012-05-14 20:22

    THE D.A. ....OUR FUTURE! #power to the DA

      Jackie - 2012-05-14 20:36

      In your dream land

      dewaldmontgomery - 2012-05-14 21:07

      Yes, I dream of a country that looks like the Western Cape. Because the rest of this country is an overgrown, unmaintained, un-cared-for dump. I'm pretty glad all the names are changing, so they can reflect the fact that ANC controlled municipalities and provinces show no pride in their environment.

  • desertratbkf - 2012-05-14 20:22

    No doubt! It will be a peaceful demonstration. No barbaric looting, dancing and filthy chanting. Have your say, people of morals!

  • EricksonTL - 2012-05-14 20:24

    The only class war I see here is between the DA and the ANC. The DA have it, the ANC don't.

  • bheki.dingiswayo - 2012-05-14 20:25

    The DA is now doing the work that Cosatu should have done long time ago but it seems that it only represent employed individual, the unemployed are not represented by anybody, the DA has seen the opportunities and its now taking it. Even the ANC is amazed about this march.

      Smili - 2012-05-14 20:43

      Well Said! :D

  • devenjoey.theron - 2012-05-14 20:29

    its a very good idea to show the world how free we really is, go for it:)

  • Brett - 2012-05-14 20:30

    DA Government in our lifetime.

      desertratbkf - 2012-05-14 20:38

      DA = DEMOCRATIC!!! Equality for all! NOT equality for big, fat, hideous members of the cANCer party! "A Better Life For All"? My arse! There are more poor people in this country, than ever before! Because the powers that be, have STOLEN the money from the poor! Filthy, disgusting, thieves!

  • msira.gcukumana - 2012-05-14 20:33

    every comment on issues here are either black or white, and most with white people ALWAYS having somthing negative to say about us black.........

      tobydt - 2012-05-14 20:38

      Most black people will always have something negative to say about white people.

      Oom - 2012-05-14 20:41

      That is not true and you know it, the reverse also applies from time to time, even under these cooments, to generalise is however not the solution.

      Smili - 2012-05-14 20:41

      Not really blacks... If you see racism fight it... However most people do support the DA... So if you comment negatively on them then you will find yourself fighting a losing battle! Good luck ;)

      msira.gcukumana - 2012-05-14 20:46

      going on with our diffences like this its very lame. The country is rather moving backwards instead of moving foward. Why cant we just blame our leaders rather than generalizing their mistakes with race issues. Read up comments everyday here on news24 and check out comments from both white and black people, then tell me who seems to have much to say about the other group

      Smili - 2012-05-14 20:52

      I agree the whole race thing is lame! However the ANC goverment is always polarizing the country according to race. It's how they get there votes... I do agree about seeing racist comments on news24 everyday (both black and white. But can you blame anybody when they are alway bombarded with the race card by the ANC! WE NEED TO MOVE ON!

      tobydt - 2012-05-14 20:53

      msira - "Why cant we just blame our leaders rather than generalizing their mistakes with race issues." You brought the race-card up, the commentry has been clear of race (Except you and that Sarel dude). Two peas in a pod?

      dewaldmontgomery - 2012-05-14 21:09

      Not true. Read our comments elsewhere. Most whites show great respect for black people who think beyond two things for a change: (1) skin colour (2) the past. Myself included.

      Piet - 2012-05-14 21:31

      The ANC keeps on playing the race card, so to will I.

  • Joel - 2012-05-14 20:33

    My advice to the DA is that do not go anywhere near COSATU House if you do not want to get hurt. remember the time when Tony Leon got a hot clap in the face? That will be your fate on the day or even worse. The DA can march but it will be foolhardy for its supporters to go anywhere near COSATU House. It will be exactly similar to the IFP's march on Shell House, the headquarters of the ANC in the early 1990s. The rest is history and today the IFP is on its last legs.

      tobydt - 2012-05-14 20:38

      There is a big difference between IFP and DA marchers. For one thing, I doubt the DA will be carrying knopkieries or storm the entrance of 'Shell house'.

      EricksonTL - 2012-05-14 20:46

      I say, DA, give the marchers bullet proof vests and helmuts, and get out there. Invite the international media, and then post the resulting story on every news site you can find. Worked for the ANC in the 1980's, and we're fighting the same fight here.

  • ziphok1 - 2012-05-14 20:46

    If DA is so wrong what is COSATU doing to assist youth to get employment. And why unemployed youth must go and block DA, are we youth that stupid?

      altusvanzyl - 2012-05-14 21:01

      Amen bru

      Smili - 2012-05-14 21:19

      Bravo!

  • thozi - 2012-05-14 20:52

    I thought the DA was a bit more sensible than the march they've planned to stage. Now that the DA and Cosatu have one tract of mind, it's going to be difficult to know who to root for.

  • Gordon - 2012-05-14 20:55

    JMPD confirming that COSATU cannot be trusted not to kick off the violence. thugs.

  • altusvanzyl - 2012-05-14 21:00

    wow and they call this a democracy?

  • aiazmir - 2012-05-14 21:01

    The ability to protest only is accepted within the confines of the ANC and Cosatu. Only when it is an ANC or Cosatu march are the rules of engagement defined. A DA march does not fit into this narrow confinement. Since when did the ANC and Cosatu reserve the exclusive right to protest? If South Africans are not allowed to protest, though it does not fit the confines of the ANC and Cosatu, where will this lead. Of course to an ANC and Cosatu led oppressive dictatorship. Good for the DA. Go DA. Show those bums that they do not hold a monopoly to protest. Hide ANC and Cosatu because the DA are on the march.

  • Barefoot - 2012-05-14 21:03

    they are marching to the wrong place anyway, or they need cosatu to give them directions to luthuli house? ultimately all decisions rest with government - they should march to parliament in cape town that way they'll have more strikers.

  • Andricca - 2012-05-14 21:05

    I think DA fantasize a lot

  • Bzeng - 2012-05-14 21:09

    I support youthwagesubsidy march. Young people are sinking into poverty due to unions and parties that care about taxpayer knowing they will get their share from their salary.

  • TheVern69 - 2012-05-14 21:10

    So who's allowed to march and who aint...?? Seems like freedom of speech in this country is not apllicable anymore! \r\nAnd that goes for all of you so called leaders and representatives of the,again,so called democrisy we are living in!\r\n\r\nUs normal people vote for you, the triparteid allience or DA...I doubt it! Rather take my chances living with the decisions humans make than you idiotic politicians!! Ppppfffttt

      Silindile - 2012-05-14 22:20

      They are allowed to march, they just have to march a different route. Read the article, please.

  • Edwin - 2012-05-14 21:16

    I'm black and can see that Zille is trying her best to improve this country but the problem is this people who doesnt care for us (ANC). I thank God, every child have an access to education in this country and the more we learn is the lower the number of stupid ANC supporters will be in future.

      gideon.keyser - 2012-05-14 22:35

      im so glad a black person can realise that the DA is not against black people, but is trying to improve our country

  • desertratbkf - 2012-05-14 21:16

    Maybe you should go back to school! And earn true % (percentages, pass marks), that are the norm throughout the world, and NOT FIXED to help the naturally, unintelligent!

  • tobydt - 2012-05-14 21:23

    1.5 more hours for Diablo 3!!!

      Justin - 2012-05-14 21:34

      best comment ive read on news24!

  • pjcbs - 2012-05-14 21:33

    Nevermind the political mudslinging here, I just read a single name. .... Wayne Minnar. That should say enough about it being a stuffed-up, ANC controlled decision.

  • leko.dada1 - 2012-05-14 21:33

    Majority of the unemployed youth will not support DA's Youth wage subsidy...maybe it will be supported by employers and by those who are looking for such grants/pocket money! WALTER BAGEHOT once said,'' the great pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do''~ we (youth)need to be brave and lead our own future,none will do it on our behalf!\n\nIf DA is realy realy concerned about creating jobs,why they not supporting policies that creates INDEPENDANCY? Like apartheid government did for Whites ... empowering with Intellectual capital!

  • Thabo - 2012-05-14 21:54

    423000 jobs will benefit a lot of people. This are positive news, just need support to be put into action. The only time to object to such initiative Is when there are better plans in place.

  • Dave - 2012-05-14 22:07

    How is it that COSATU members have been allowed to trash city centres for years without any charges or restitution for the damage done, BUT now a protest by an opponent of an ally of cANCer, is now disallowed? Would any cANCer supporter care to answer? I'll bet the silence will be deafening

  • aiazmir - 2012-05-14 22:16

    Can you see the irony of this? The DA cannot march on Cosatu because "a security assessment was done", by whom? Whenever Cosatu decides to march, there is no security assessment. How much damage to property and lives has been perpetrated on SA because Cosatu decides to "march"? Thank god the DA have found their feet and are leading the way. March people march. Don't allow the ANC and Cosatu to rob you of your rights to protest. This is not a police state (yet).

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