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DA Youth turn up heat with poster

2012-01-23 17:10

Cape Town - A DA Student Organisation campaign poster showing two people of different races in a provocative position caused a stir on social networks on Monday.

The poster shows a white man embracing a black woman with the tagline: “DASO In our future you wouldn’t look twice.”

The organisation got a flood of responses on its Facebook page with many complaining about its implied nudity.

Arlette Franks wrote: “The nakedness completely diverts from the intended message of political togetherness - unless politics really is all about sex?”

Estelle Nel said: “I don't care if who they put on there, I just think its stupid to have naked people on there. That's what made me look. [sic]”

Masoga Rueben merely called the poster “disgusting”.

But Simon Cameron-Dow countered, saying: “I don't see something sexual. They did this pic very well. The pose, the embrace, their expressions. It looks convincing, it looks like love, it looks beautiful.”

Meanwhile on Twitter, “NomalangaSA” stated: “In my future, I hope those damn townships are gone in Cape Town and all the Blacks have moved into Camps Bay to share that view. [sic]”

The DA Youth told News24 that if educated university students see the poster as promoting sex, "then we have no hope".

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Comments
  • Omrisho - 2012-01-23 17:19

    no nonsense hard hitting to the point advertising, clever design team

      Kyle - 2012-01-23 18:08

      @ubhejane - you missing the point of the poster..... your reation is exactly the type of reaction they expected and exectly what they want to try change.... this poster should not veen be a topic for discussion....it's not about white's sleeping with blacks, it's about changing people perceptions and mindsets. get them out of the past and and get to the point were a poster like this would not even get people to think twice, or even feel the need to comment..... in a sense it's worked, problem is it working shows how far away people's thinking is from were it should be...

      ubhejane - 2012-01-23 18:17

      NO NO NO NO Kyle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm sorry. As liberal as I am politically, this is not the way to promote unity. This poster screams sex and yes there are many people of different races sleeping together, but NOT for me!

      Kyle - 2012-01-23 18:20

      @ubhejane - poster only screems sex if that is what you are choosing to read into it....

      ubhejane - 2012-01-23 18:31

      @Kyle. I know this will shock you, but you know what was my immediate reaction to this poster? The DA is trying to take my identity away. I don't have the issues of other people trying to be white, or thinking that a white skin is the be all and end all of mankind. I am a VERY PROUD Zulu and even more proud of my own genetics. I promise you there isn't anything I need from any other race on this planet. I intend keeping my bloodline pure and that would be the principal I would teach my kids one day. I don't care what the rest of the planet does. The Eskimos can go mate with the polar bears for all I care, but me is a ZULU!!!!

      Spyker - 2012-01-23 18:57

      Thank you Lord..! For a change we are discussing something other than a feckless fat fetid middle-aged nincompoop, with the mental capacity of a one year old toddler, having to labour through its incoherent drivel about the "YUF"...

      christian.helberg - 2012-01-23 19:09

      @ubhejane Don’t be so narrow minded, the poster is open for interpretation, like poetry, don’t take it literally. We are not saying that black and white need to jump into bed together, lose your heritage, your culture and who you are, no, by no means. We are saying that race shouldn’t and doesn’t matter, that we need to be ONE if we are to overcome the past, and the present. Don’t read so much into the poster, it is not about black and white, but about what is between the lines. We have been segregated by politics and religion, our leaders encourage this, they fuel our hatred so that they can divide and conquer us all. Together we can achieve the impossible, and no longer have to be prisoners to our parent’s hatred

      Fumanchu - 2012-01-23 19:12

      Kyle, I think what ubhejane is saying, is that he is proud of his heritage as a Zulu person. I am also proud of my heritage as Afrikaans and I agree with him. The add is meant to be provocative and it does scream sexuality, but that is the whole point. Otherwise the add wouldn't have been 'hard hitting'. For you or the DA to say it's not is absolute rubbish. IT DOES SHOW TWO ADULTS FROM DIFFERENT RACES NAKED, IN AN EMBRACING POSE. How is that not sexual? But that is the point of the add, they say that in the future "one would not look twice". And it's with that, which some people may not agree with. We are all South Africasn first and then whatever race - and we are allowed to be proud of that and our Heritage and history.

      henri.cloete - 2012-01-23 19:12

      @ubhejane: The poster does not say that everyone must immediately take a partner of a different race. It just seeks to discourage people judging people in such relationships, because of racist tendencies.

      ubhejane - 2012-01-23 19:22

      @Fumanchu. Thank you. The DA has lost my vote! I don't care what the "beautiful message" was they were trying to bring us all. This add demeans my Zuluness and my own identity. It makes me look as if I'm not good enough as a black man. I know they could have had a black man and a white women instead, or a Chinese and and Panda Bear, but this has completely disturbed me. They can all call me backward on here, I really don't care.

      thommo.hart - 2012-01-23 19:36

      @ ubhejane who said the black chick was Zulu, for we know she could be from any of 9 different black ethnic groups in South Africa. She could even be a from Zim, Bots, Moz, Angola, Congo, etc, She could even be a Khoisan, there are a lot of Koisan groups around Southern Africa that have the same topologies as black ubuntu speaking Africans. Your ethnic hate is why 15 000 people die of ethnic cleansing in the Guateng area between 1990 and 1994. Your ethnic hatred is why a Xhosa and a Zulu wont share a room let alone your own room

      jody.beggs - 2012-01-23 19:39

      @ubhejane your racist tendencies demeans your Zuluness and your identity. You only see black , that's fine but we live in a multi-racial society that has no place for , "I am black, and that's all that matters." . So you don't believe in the rainbow nation and all whites coloured's ,Indians and Asian should leave ? By the way you share genetics's with Zuma and Malema , why don't you put that as a facebook status ? Damn the man.

      wesley.bischoff - 2012-01-23 19:40

      @ubhejane: It's all good and well being proud of your heritage (a good thing) but if you want to live in a modern cosmopolitan society, you cannot always fall back on tradition/culture. You have to change with the times, otherwise you will be left behind. This isn't an attack on you or your culture. I'm just saying :-)

      Ali - 2012-01-23 19:41

      False advertising.. That's not her real hair..

      wesley.bischoff - 2012-01-23 19:46

      @ubhejane: So its an issue for you now just because it's a white man and black woman, and not the other way around? That's totally hypocritical.

      Paul - 2012-01-23 19:59

      @thommo -- she looks Irish to me

      ubhejane - 2012-01-23 20:17

      Let me make this clear to EVERYBODY on here: 1. My fight is for a free truly democratic South Africa for EVERYBODY. No more of this stupid BEE/AA nonsense. 2. People can marry whoever they like. It is my democratic right to choose to have my own Zulu babies. I don't need to marry a Chinese, African American or anybody else to achieve my goal in life. 3. The ANC has become the biggest crime syndicate this country has ever known. 4. The DA doesn't understand anything about us. They lost my vote today. 5. We need a new political party that will allow us all our own identity and allow us to build the infrastructure with the tax income. 6. I don't stand for this building of free houses for everybody. We are creating a lazy nation. Come take me on now! I'm ready for the whole country! I'll fight for what I believe in.

      ubhejane - 2012-01-23 21:04

      @thommo. I don't care if she comes from the same village as Malema. That isn't my point. My point is the following. This ad does nothing to promote who we are and how we should move forward. My daily fight on here, if you have ever bothered to read my comments, are about the injustices of Apartheid being implemented in a so called new democracy. Don't suggest that me Zulu must marry or sleep with any other race on this planet, before I can prove to you, I have the ability to move on. I don't need to create confused kids that fit in nowhere because I want to prove to anybody that I'm enlightened. I won't even marry a Xhosa! My views on politics have got nothing to so with who I sleep with. That is my business behind my closed doors and this suggestion of the DA is repulsive and demeaning to all us black people. I don't know if they were trying to get the Freedom Front outraged, but they sure did get a whole lot of us black men furious. You don't want to see what my inbox on Facebook looks like. But then of course Helen Zille would have approved this, wouldn't she? Anything to demean us black men! Let her see if this "new" message gets them the black female vote. She is actually just spinning her wheels in the mud. This is one of the worst political stunts I have seen in a long time.

      ubhejane - 2012-01-23 21:12

      @jody.beggs. If my memory serves me right, they have a saying in Afrikaans about something about somebody that heard the church bell ring but he doesn't know where the steeple is. That would describe you. I'm so confused by these damning posts of yours, I don't know any longer who you are damning. Is it Zuma, is it me, is it PW Botha or the rapper on TV.

      TheWatcher - 2012-01-23 21:33

      @ubhejane I agree on all points except no 4. Or to be more exact I'm deeply saddened by it. Please read to the end of my post before replying as the first bit will likely get up your nose a little. I think you are missing the spirit of the advert. Its trying rather clumsily and somewhat provocatively(which is the bit I'm not happy with) to say that in the future if you see a mixed racial couple you wouldn't even look twice. Let's face it if 90% of the people in SA (and I'm talking any ethnic grouping) saw a black guy and a white woman together (or visa versa) they'd have at least a double take. I went to a very liberal university and I still do it. Does that make me a racist? No, I don't see anything wrong with it. Its just not something you see everyday where I live. I have no problems with little pasty white babies, zulu babies or 'mixed race' babies crawling around. I like white woman and I married one. You like Zulu babes (and will presumably marry one) and a white friend of mine married a Nigerian babe. There's nothing wrong with it. To be honest I also think your reaction has a lot to do with the other narrow minded fools who populate this forum. Nevertheless you are entitled to your opinion and if that is you final decision then that is that, I do however request that you take a day or two to think about it. To me this just seems like a case of a misguided advert resulting in a stick being grabbed from the wrong end.

      jody.beggs - 2012-01-23 22:06

      @ubhejane is that all you got. Dude your just angry , please don't take it out on your girl-friend. Have a couple of beers(or a joint) and think about what your saying and doing. When you come back down to reality , realize we all have to live here together in a Rainbow Nation not one filled with one colour. Your not the only South African here who's proud of their heritage but your really missing the point of the poster. Damn the man.

      ubhejane - 2012-01-23 22:06

      Dear Watcher. I hear everything you say. But unfortunately you will always hear the truth from me, seen through my eyes. As narrow minded as this might sound to you, this ad stabbed me right in the heart as a black man. It is irrelevant if this ad was a black guy hugging a white blonde (which we see all day long) As an ardent DA supporter this ad horrified me instead telling me about my future. Tonight the DA is as bad as the ANC in my eyes. Well not quite as bad, but almost, seeing the ANC is a crime syndicate. If Pieter Mulder wasn't so hell bent on taking my rights away from me, I would vote for him today. At least he understands my Zuluness and isn't suggesting I need to start dating white girls to prove to the world that I have moved myself on in life! I'm sorry Watcher to disappoint you but I am disgusted. I'm also disgusted that the ANC didn't expel Malema today. So I am not a happy man today.

      TheWatcher - 2012-01-23 22:19

      @ubhejane Fair enough. I'm going to send some hate mail to the DA youth league in the morning. A lot of people are pretty wound up about this so as much as I agree with the message behind it this advert is just not the way to do it and has set the DA back a lot in SA. To quote a friend of mine sharing the poster: 'Why Youth Leagues should be declared unlawful organizations and why the DA is fundamentally just screwing itself.'

      Mikhail - 2012-01-24 00:03

      Ok so I'm sorry ubhejane if it seems people are attacking, I want to make it clear that this is not an attack but a point to think about, not just for you but other racial or cultural purists out there. Black people in SA want to live a Western life, they want nice cars, nice houses, executive positions but are not willing to embrace a Western culture? It is confusing as hell to me, you cannot retain hundreds of years of tradition and still live in a New World. And SA by any definition as as new as they come. Yes you want to hold onto your culture, your ethnicity and that is yours and the afrikaaners prerogitive but both you and them lack the progressive insight to propell SA forward. Big Chiefs do not work in a western culture, they do not work in a western democracy as we are seeing in our joke of a government currently raping our country today. You may be old school along with half the people living in our country but I can tell you now the people who designed that poster is the leadership we need to build a competitive country in this world. For you and all others who damn this poster, shame on you! We will soon enter our 3rd decade of democracy and still you cling to ages past? Why are places like the States great countries? They embrace diversity and build on it. If you want to be traditional fine but don't dare criticize something "new" because it doesn't gel with your value system. See it as there is no right to this but nor is there a wrong...

      Hallo - 2012-01-24 00:04

      Just another political party’s youth wing trying to garner attention. And guess what... I still don't give a f***. All political parties are a waste of valuable resources. Rabid supporters of ANY political party deserve to live in squalor, to have their tax monies squandered and live fear due to an ineffective police force.

      ubhejane - 2012-01-24 01:05

      @Mikhail. Fair enough. I have now said this a few times on here today. I have no case with who marries who. I am going to guard my own genetic make-up like a fierce dog and will choose my Zulu wife that will understand my culture. By culture I mean the following. I earn our living and educated her stays at home and makes sure our kids get their education. One wife, one set of kids. As for the rest of the stuff that I should go live in a hut in KZN and not embrace anything of the Western world. Well, you see I grew up in the city under ANC rule and all the evils that come with that. I don't even know what KZN looks like other than driving down the N3 to Durban. But that doesn't make me any less of a Zulu, just as whatever I am driving today makes me any less of a Zulu. So what are you suggesting? Because I'm a Zulu, I should go back to some hut, have 5 wives and ride on a donkey? I can't see why my choice of wife is being attacked here. I don't want a white wife because they are neurotic and high maintenance to start off with and secondly I refuse to father kids that don't fit into any place. My kids should look like I do. I am not ashamed of my genetic make-up. As for this ad of the DA? It had a very definite racial message and said exactly the opposite of what a non racial party should be standing for. It was created purely to provoke people and they succeeded in that but lost many black votes in the process. Their loss, not mine.

      Odicito - 2012-01-24 01:05

      A lot of FAILS. Did people see this "The DA Youth told News24 that if educated university students see the poster as promoting sex, "then we have no hope"." This is a brilliant response and it seems a whole bunch of people missed this OBVIOUS point being made here..oh sigh!

      Mikhail - 2012-01-24 01:43

      As I said be a Zulu, educate your kids to be Zulu. You choose a black wife as I would choose a white one. But why condemn an ad that clearly says make that choice and none will judge. Is that not what a democracy is, vote for who you want, wed who want, live the way you want. But there should not be prejudice against those who choose to live their lives differntly. Already I see people dropping their culture, I know black guys my age who can't speak a black language. And perhaps it is precisely for that reason that you defend yourself and your culture so passionately. You are living in a new western world, whether you like it or not. And what that means is that one day, many generations down the line, your offspring will have to embrace their new cultures and values. Along with that, mixed race relationships. It is already happening. I'm sorry but that is reality. Personally, you or I may not. And that's ok but it's ok to make choices other than what we are as well. Unfortunately people like you are way behind and I say that with no bitterness or resent. Your mindedness will be extinct one day. Maybe years in the future but it will. And why not, biologically speaking, deepening the gene pool (such as with mixed race) will strengthen humans as a whole. And lol @ going back to a hut with 5 wives but no. I am saying that western culture has materially brought Africa comfort but with it comes culture change as well as lifestyle change. They are not mutually exclusive.

      ubhejane - 2012-01-24 02:23

      That is fine Mikhail. I'm a backward Zulu. It will be a pretty Zulu wife, and little Zulus running around in my house with a very happy Zulu daddy. I could give a stuff what the rest of this planet thinks about that. My little Zulus will attend the very mixed Crawford College and be driven there by Zulu mummy in a very Western car. She will cook our food on a gas hob sunken into a granite kitchen top. Just like you. No open fires with black pots hanging above it. I won't ask you if you abducted a nun from the Vatican and taught her English. What you and I should be sorting out is the following: 1. What are we going to do about the ANC that are allowing foreigners marrying our women just to get citizenship? What will we do with these strange kids that don't look like any of us? 2. How are we going to fix the injustices of the ANC in years to come when every brain cell has left this continent? 3. How will we end the corruption of the ANC and reclaim the right to our tax money? I'm a tax payer too and don't work for the government or getting any tenders? 4. And lastly, when will whites respect the fact that I can actually think for myself and I don't in the slightest want to be white? I am sick to death of being told that I must think like white people do, otherwise I don't fit into society the way whites want me to fit in! Sorry if this bad news has made you loose hope for all of us Zulus.

      ubhejane - 2012-01-24 02:39

      Oh sorry Mikhail. I see none of these problems I mentioned are actually your new American problems. Shall we discuss your smog in California or do you want to guess who will be your next President? Could we please get Hilary now!!!!!!! Oprah has had her window dressing done, so can we get a lady who actually knows what she is talking about to help save your new economy? PLEASE!!!!!

      Juan - 2012-01-24 03:31

      @ubhejane chill man. I think what the DA is trying to say here is that if you want to keep your bloodline pure, it's your right to do so. If you want to mix it up a little well, that's your right too. That's the whole point of a free society now isn't it, you choose! I don't think that the DA intended on insulting black men by this ad, and I wouldn't be surprised if they come out with another poster showing a black man with a white woman. I tend to agree with your posts in general but you are a little over-sensitive. Take a chill pill man.

      kobiester - 2012-01-24 08:33

      I agree with u man. I am white, and they lost my vote too. Call me narrow minded, i dont care. Its about what u believe in. U can tolerate and accept and i will tolerate this. Not accept this. Who to vote for now?

      Dirk - 2012-01-24 08:47

      Yet another political party trying to be everything for everyone. The eventual opposition will come from within the regime, as with the MDC in Zim. The script has already been written. But that will come only after the collapse. Only then, do eyes open in Africa

      Ian - 2012-01-24 09:43

      @ubhejane Poster aside, this forum has become about your views on Zulu racial cleanliness. Im sorry to say this but you sound exactly like a White Supremacist. They also want an ethnically clean race and hate above all, mixed race couples. Some of your comments are actually pretty damn racist and disturbing in my eyes. If you dont like live in a multi ethnic non racial South Africa I suggest you try form an ethnically pure Zulu state just like Oranje. Think about it... You are exactly the same as them. I personally find it funny how the shoe is on the other foot these days.

      Mattewis - 2012-01-24 09:46

      The multi-culti illusion is fading fast over western civilizations where it originated! Continued ANC support numbers prove that this never was a problem with black Africans (and probably never will be either). With this ad, the DA will only succeed in dropping their support base even further. How is this a clever design team? This looks like a rather obvious design for the intended objective!

      DuToitCoetzee - 2012-01-24 09:55

      @ubhejane. I can't criticize you on your view because there are even some people in my community(Afrikaner) that have the same point. They also said it is not based on racism, but self-identity. ...but that's not what I want to comment on. You said that maybe the DA wants to win over the black female. I believe they have already won over the majority middle to higher class black female. Maybe their aim is now to get them to the polling stations.lol. You should know that when having the black female vote the rest follows. They were always the one who could change the mind of the majority(read black) They say women are our(read man)backbone.lol. Just an observation....

      Pierre - 2012-01-24 09:56

      I did not think 17 years after apartheid this kind of image would still draw attention. Show how slow things change.

      Nkulekweni - 2012-01-24 10:07

      Nice!!! Now if the girl had short spiky dreadlocks...Anyway Bhejane..I think the point of the poster is to provoke discussion on what we mean by rainbow nation...and I think it has succeeded in that. I find the discussion here is very interesting and indeed I think it is very rare for a discussion to go on for so long without there being racist insults hurled (Of course they'll always be the Jans of this forum) As a number of people have commented despite the fact that for aesthetic (beauty eyes beer holder) and political reasons I would never date a white person...I personally see the need to position multiracialism as a natural phenomenon. The concept of race is only four centuries old and before that skin colour did not have the meaning that it has now. All these meanings are socially constructed and serve certain political agendas. So the DA, I am thinking wants to break down/deconstruct those meanings and state categorically that race should be immaterial in the building of a nation.

      Kyle - 2012-01-24 10:18

      BLAH... knee kerk reactions.... really limited thinking from most of you... oh well guess SA is not as educated and forward thinking as people hoped it was... still full of a bunch of narrow minded racist twits.

      Mary - 2012-01-24 11:14

      ubhejane - are you sure you're pure Zulu? Remember the time when your ancestors and especially King Shaka, used to incorporate the women and children of other, non-Zulu, tribes into the Zulu nation?

      Fiona - 2012-01-24 11:19

      @ Ubejhane - democracy also implies you don't have to sleep with anyone you don't want to! Freedom of choice. There are tons of people I would never want to sleep with either! But the point is that true freedom means having the choice to LOVE (not just sleep with) anyone you fall for, from whatever background they come from. My husband is of Austrian extraction, I am of British - and our grandparents fought or imprisoned each other in World War II. Where would my husband and I be if we were still stuck in WWII mentality?

      dewald.galjaard - 2012-01-24 11:22

      DA just lost my vote

      ubhejane - 2012-01-24 11:50

      OK Guys, I have read all your views. I'm still on my old mission. Nothing that anybody has said here has convinced me to move myself forward on issues you want me to myself forward. Backward Zulu (mixed or not) I still remain and very happy about it. Now that the DA has successfully alienated just about every black male vote they had, the burning question is, where do I vote now????? I need to get financial backing behind me to start a new political party that will represent us all. Even those with Chinese wives and Eskimo husbands. The ANC has outlived their shelf life, that they showed us with the centennial bash and the DA is chasing stuff that won't bring us money. We need to sort the ANC's Grand Theft out and abolish BEE/AA if we are going to retain the country's brain power. I don't want to be left here alone with Malema's hooligans hanging out taxi windows with a KFC drumstick. I will then join you in Sydney and be your neighbour all over again. Forget my Zulu wife and cute Zulu babies. Where to from here? A new party?

      ubhejane - 2012-01-24 12:38

      @Truth24. I agree and this is my fundamental problem with the DA and DOSA. How caught up in the issues of the past are you when you think that the black voter was ever concerned NOT being able to sleep with the whites???? Did they ever get to know us and found out what our issues were about? In the light of the dire financial mess we as a country find ourselves in at this moment, who gives a damn about who is sleeping with who????? It is my constitutional right at this present time to choose my bed partners. Why should I have a worry about this???? We are being stolen blind and they still worry about interracial relationships??? Does this show you how backward their Youth Organisation is? Doesn't this sound as counter productive as the ANCYL?

      Kyle - 2012-01-24 13:31

      serioulsy are you people so damn stupid???? this poster has NOTHING to do with blacks and whites sleeping togetehr, if you idiots are so damn blind and stuck on that issue then there really is no help for us. Christ reading the comments on here is worse than listening to 4 year old trying to debate! Both sides blacks and whites argueing about how wrong this poster is... please both of you crawl back into the bush and hide under a rock... NO ONE needs the likes of you in SA. brain dead morons all of you!

      Edward - 2012-01-24 14:55

      Its summer time in SA, couldn't they be in swim suits? I'm in the US and old enough to remember this same discussion here. Even made a movie about it "Guess Who's Coming to Dinner?" Sidney Poitier, Spencer Tracy, Katherine Hepburn, anyone see it? 45 years ago the little town I live in had laws that said where blacks could live. Now mixed race couples are common in this same area. Certainly each person has the right to determine whom they will date and later marry and produce children with and if that desire is for only someone of there own race cool. But often what lurks behind that is a racism that wants to keep the races separated. If you want that kind of separation then you want A FORM of Apartheid (put in caps so you would see the words FORM OF). We called it "separate but equal" in the US and many people in this country sincerely believed that they were racially biased even though they supported this segregation according to race. I don't fully know apartheid's details but it doesn't sound too different from our "segregation." If I found the poster offensive I would look inside myself to see what was there. I've spent a lot of years watching people "tap dance" around their racially biased attitudes using many excuses. The only way to get beyond them (and they exist in blacks and whites) is to confront them. Yeah, it's summer in SA, they could be at Camp's Bay in swim suits. The words are strategically positioned

      Edward - 2012-01-24 15:21

      One more thing. I'm not saying I understand SA society because I've lived through segregation and the Civil Rights movement in the US. But there are two ways to learn important life lessons. Learn from others, both their successes and failures. Or learn everything on our own. We are all human beings and have much more in common than we are different.

      Edward - 2012-01-24 16:03

      correction to my first post; "people thought they were" (should be, "people thought that they weren't racially biased even though they supported separate but equal")

      ubhejane - 2012-01-24 17:02

      @Edward. Thank you for your input into this steamy debate. Please don't feel offended in any way about what I am about to say, but as I often travel to America for work, I have gotten to learn a lot about your segregation laws of the past. However, I personally still wouldn't marry an African American girl because she doesn't know a thing about my culture and how I want my kids raised. You probably know we are a number of different tribes in South Africa and for the last 20 years we have had the freedom to marry whoever we wish. I personally never had a problem with our old segregation laws regarding marriage. That was never an issue for the majority of South Africans, black and white. This provocative ad that the Democratic Alliance has released has no relevance in 2012 and did the party a lot more harm than good. It was created by a bunch of mostly white students, probably with no other intention but to demean us as blacks and provoke outrage. All my messages and mail over the last 24 hours have been from outraged black friends feeling demeaned by this. You would have had the same reaction if it was a black man hugging a white girl. We are living in trying times with our ruling party and we need to find an alternative for the corruption going on and our feeling is that the opposition party isn't serious about our future and are mocking us. This ad showed how thin their veneer is and they have nothing to solve our dire situation moving forward.

      Edward - 2012-01-24 19:47

      @ubhejane. Yes I do know about the various tribes in SA. From my "American" point of view is that this ad is similar to feelings that white progressives had and have in the US. They want to paint a picture where race is irrelevant. However, in the process they sometimes forget the cultural differences between the races. In this country the "intent" was always positive but often the outcome was anything but. White progressives in the US during the Civil Rights Movement (what ended segregation and the Jim Crow laws of the south) wanted a society that was color blind. And because most whites of European descent don't have strong identification with their countries of origin, they often forget that others may have very strong identification with their own tribe (Zulu, Xhosa, ect.) or their clan (Scotland, Ireland to name a couple) and they aren't sensitive to how certain statements or ideas might be perceived. So bottom line, from my experiences in the US, often bad consequences occur from the best motives. In the late 60's and early 70's white folk would seek to show that they weren't prejudiced and would say; "some of my best friends are black." It turned out to be offensive to many black people but the intent was never meant to be offensive. I'm not from SA and don't know your culture well. But I looked at this ad and saw the same type of good intentioned thing that happened in the US 40 years ago. Maybe the DA had the best of intentions.

      Michael - 2012-01-25 03:08

      All governments should hear this again http://youtu.be/TQmz6Rbpnu0

      Hugh - 2012-01-25 11:11

      @ubhejane, I think you protest too much. As an ardened (ex)DA supporter, dont you think your reaction is a tad over the top? The poster is sexual, so? How does that affect your vote for clean political governance? I didnt see this poster till now, and it draws no or little reaction from me. Good looking models though, would make pretty babies.

      Roland - 2012-01-25 12:10

      Ubhejane is a Eugenicist...just like Adolf Hitler and the like. He insults my Coloured brothers with his superiority complex. Shaka Zulu defeated surrounding tribes, including the khoisan, Griquas, etc and integrated them into the Zulu tribe...

  • dee.shabalala - 2012-01-23 17:19

    This to me says, if you a black and wanna get laid by a white person, join DASO, for we know what happens at University tlitlitlitl

      Gerhard - 2012-01-23 18:31

      You do???

      Whitty - 2012-01-23 19:10

      Or this is how to get to represent DA in the parliament.

      James - 2012-01-23 19:11

      only a very immature person would think something as childish as that.....Grow up!

      gbbfg - 2012-01-24 07:28

      So when you see an advert with a small child with his face full of ice cream, you would think, "I should eat my ice cream that way". What utter nonsense.

      STYLEbudd - 2012-01-24 09:59

      I think the point they're trying to make is racial unity thats all - I thnk the poster is great!

      sean.d.parker - 2012-01-25 09:47

      Yeah this has the making of Shakespeare love story. Is the DA Student organisation having a performance at the Baxter?

  • Martinus - 2012-01-23 17:20

    Never ever will they get my vote, we have hardline communists running the country and more hardline leftists in opposition!! Where are parties that stand for common decency and leaving people the hell alone!! Government is there to facilitate, not to rule or to constantly try to change people and their views!!!!!

      Herman - 2012-01-23 17:22

      Exactly.

      Janneman27 - 2012-01-23 17:26

      Martinus, there was such a party, the Cape Party, but at the last elections people in the Western Cape were more concerned with Uhuru than their own freedom it seems.

      John - 2012-01-23 17:48

      Just glad you not a "hardline" extremist... otherwise it would put you in the category as the rest..

      Jou - 2012-01-23 17:51

      This is why I never vote. I would be an out and out hypocrite for voting for either party. Let the ANC sheep find out for themselves that voting the Zoomas and Mbekis of this world will never ever change their constituents quality of life for another 100 years. Keep on voting ANC and I will keep on smiling while I sip ice cold beers in my nice swimming pool.

      clivecorbz - 2012-01-23 17:59

      If you call the current ANC government, hardline communists, then you have a very misled idea of communism.

      Martinus - 2012-01-23 18:35

      @Janneman27, I'm a Cape Party supporter already but they are very small and stand more for Cape Independence (something I am fully for) but are not clear on their libertarian principles. @Clivecorbz, grownups are talking, wait for your balls to drop before giving political commentary and telling adults what they do/don't know. @Burfred, what does conception have to do with this poster? The DA is putting forward an idea that they want to change the way people think, this is a nice way of saying 'brainwash', I don't want anyone to change my thinking or who I am, where do they get off implying that their paradigm is the correct one??

      Gail - 2012-01-24 12:19

      @ Marthinus: This poster is calling for unity as opposed to class and racial divide which is what the ANC and Malema propose and you two, (Ubhejane) may be disgusted by this poster which may or may not be promoting sex and interrace marriages which produce children who are beige as opposed to white or black. Way back in 1961 when the apartheid govt took us out of the Commonwealth and made us a Republic their motto was unity in Diversity so in a sense the unity aspect harks back 50 years. This poster shows two beautiful people in a loving embrace and suggests that we should be united in our vision to accept those who love despite aqppearance or religious persuasion. Not for one moment is it suggesting that we have to embrace it on a personal level but to accept that whites have the right to be treated the same way as any other ethnic grouping whether they choose to keep their bloodline pure or not. I agree with you on many points and totally understand what you are saying but while this ad may well have been better were the young couple clother the emotion is loving one another regardless of each others foibles and respecting each other on a personal level. I respect your right to be a proud Zulu and keep your bloodline pure and hope you respect mine to remain white. However I am a realist and unity does not mean marrying someone of the same ethnicity or not, it merely says that society needs to respect the rights of individuals to socialise and marry whom they choose.

      Martinus - 2012-01-24 16:01

      @Gail, my objection is with the message, as well as the image. "In our future, you wouldn't look twice." One doesn't need a degree in English to read the subtext, it is saying 'in the future, this is what we will MAKE acceptable." Now they could have a picture of the paedobear following a small child, wouldn't make a difference. They are promising us that they will change our world view, our way of thinking!! How dare they! This is not George Orwell's 1984 or Stalin's Russia!! They have absolutely no right to even suggest that the way we think is incorrect, where the hell do they fall out? The thing that frustrates me the most is the fact that the ANC is the epitome of evil and now the DA happily jumps on that axis, and promotes 're-education', the fact that it is a milder and more 'acceptable' version of re-education does not make it any less despicable. One thing I guarantee, the DA will have lost a great deal of votes because of this little foray, and not just from whites. The ordinary black South African is far more conservative socially than the white!

  • lindela.ndzulu - 2012-01-23 17:21

    Don't really understand the meaning of the poster,to me its really not making sense.

      Deon - 2012-01-23 17:27

      The DA has a place for all races.

      George - 2012-01-23 17:36

      Just two people greeting on the beach, whats wrong wit it

      clivecorbz - 2012-01-23 18:00

      Win :) +1

      Brandon - 2012-01-23 18:54

      @Jan Its because of people like u that we still divided, moron

      Spyker - 2012-01-23 21:26

      Then please do not vote for the DA...

      Willie - 2012-01-24 12:27

      It does make a lot of sense,the poster in simple terms says do not look at colour deal with the issue

      Merven - 2012-01-25 07:38

      @George, if you greet my wife in such body language and intensity I'll phuck you up! Any way, I can not see what the fuzz is all about, so what if people want to screw over race barriers? Life is all about choices. What happens in people's bedrooms got nothing to do with the public.

  • deabreu - 2012-01-23 17:23

    I see more on a beach and at the pool, so what is the fuss now?

      Michael - 2012-01-23 18:03

      @Deabreu you must then be at the pool/beach to see it, not on a poster whilst walking/driving around.

      jody.beggs - 2012-01-23 19:44

      @Michael , so when you page through a magazine or drive passed billboard and see an underwear ad , do you close your eyes ? Damn the man.

      Merven - 2012-01-25 07:40

      Ah jody, now I understand the problem people got with the Teazer ads, it got nothing to do with sexism, guys like Michael will cause accidents on the high way.

  • Thabo - 2012-01-23 17:25

    Why not a white female and black male?

      Faizie - 2012-01-23 17:30

      Why, because white guys treat us with respect, not as sperm depositories

      Kyle - 2012-01-23 17:31

      what difference would that make?

      paulmandlankosi - 2012-01-23 17:32

      Hahahahahaha, uyahala

      Thabo - 2012-01-23 17:39

      @Faizie have u heard about a so called "Modimole monster"? talk of respect.

      Gerhard - 2012-01-23 18:34

      Faizie really tells yo!

      Irene - 2012-01-23 19:19

      @Faizie - Well said. You rock girl. @Thabo - Your second response just proves Faizie's point. Empty vessel.

      jody.beggs - 2012-01-23 19:46

      Dude so now your sexist too ?

      Spyker - 2012-01-23 21:41

      @ Thabo.., Why not a purple donkey and green giraffe..? Have you heard about Moses Sithole..? Or perhaps of the murder of Amy Biehl..? Perhaps of those who commit 3/4s of the rapes- and murders in South Africa – the RAPE-AND-MURDER capital of the world since 1994 – just ask Shrien Dewani... Please p1ss off back to sowetanlive.

      Blip - 2012-01-23 22:47

      Does it matter? Or are you making the deeply sexist assumption that it's the man who is the boss? Ask yourself -- what gender is the leader of the DA? Both the one inside parliament and the overall party leader. Now there's a thought, hey?

      Odicito - 2012-01-24 07:21

      Peter, address the idio+ here and do not include all of us. What do you mean 'you black men'. Thats just foolish to say.

      Dewald - 2012-01-24 08:23

      Blah, blah, blah, blah, BLIP!

      Thabo - 2012-01-24 11:18

      Let me dissect my question for some of these idio*s (BLIP). Its not a question of effect but that of motive. If the DA youth really thought about this, then it must have been deliberate on their part to have a white man and a black female and not vice versa, hence the question. Now if they didn't really think about it (which is highly likely), then this was all a publicity stunt. Tiring than innovative. As for @Faizie & friends don't bring respect into this, black males have been showing respect to your kind for years, something you can't say for your kind. @Blip, do you really call that a thought. I'm sure you can do better than that. Go dig some more.

      Hugh - 2012-01-25 11:20

      @ Thabo, they used a white guy so us whiteys didn't feel inferior in the "shoe size" department. They were just being fair to all concerned......

  • Ndabenhle - 2012-01-23 17:26

    People are so sensitive the is nothing wrong with this beside that a white brother scoring with a sister that's all lol....they look good together.i am battling to see a big deal here. I like this but not the "DA".

      Nathan - 2012-01-23 17:39

      We should go have a beer together brother :)

      wesley.bischoff - 2012-01-23 19:54

      Me too Ndabenhle... why must they take a good message and make it into something bad? Love is all that matters, not bladdy skin colour.

      sachasea - 2012-01-23 20:28

      Blinding - I really like the poster too for if nothing else it gets people talking to one another, either in disagreement or agreement. SA has a history of coming out with really provocative, and often hilarious, advertising. They are intended to be controversial. Good on DASO for having the balls to do something extreme like this. As someone said higher up in the comments section, it is totally your choice how you choose to perceive it, completely open to interpretation. For me personally I find it has a positive message, but judging by the comments many view it as negative. All very fascinating.

      Peter - 2012-01-23 20:36

      Proves not all black men lack confidence in their masculinity. Thanks Ndabenhle, I was getting worried for a while there.

      Peter - 2012-01-23 20:40

      Actually Heiku is quite correct. White men also have masculinity issues, they get highly agitated when they see black men with white women. Perhaps the problem lies with men generally, they resent competition. Or its just a natural survival instinct - but it seems we are almost like different species the way we feel threatened by one another?

      Nathan - 2012-01-24 08:25

      Not sure which white men you lot referring to but I certainly dont give a dam who makes who their partner. If I see a black guy/white girl or vice versa I actually feel proud for them.

  • Shirley - 2012-01-23 17:27

    If nothing else it has/will make people stop and take note of the poster and not be ignored like all the other mundane posters. It will also start social debate and you know what they say-"Theres no bad publicicty" so good strategy!

  • Lucky Manaswe - 2012-01-23 17:29

    I see nothing wrong with this picture, we are subjected to nudity far worse on TVs and magazines. People just want to cause a stir out of nothing as if they haven't seen nudity in public before.

      Odicito - 2012-01-24 07:27

      Agreed. What I like more though is that its a nice punch in the face to all racists on either side of the 'divide'. Good on you, and oh, what a response this young people have given to news24! Simply brilliant.If it wasnt for my principle of not wanting to 'belong' anywhere or to any form of grouping, I was going to get myself their membership.

  • Sylvia - 2012-01-23 17:29

    Far better than all the racist talk from the ANCYL.

      Jan - 2012-01-23 18:33

      how about racist DA

      Michael - 2012-01-24 08:46

      @Jan - you can carry on voting for the Herstigte N Party - who cares about your imput - you right wingers are going to be left behind, as in the past - you and your like minded types have no future in S.A.

  • David Elliott - 2012-01-23 17:30

    I think the reality of that poster will only be seen in 50 years time.In the Western Cape i have experience a very pool relationship between farmers and their workers.

      Shannon - 2012-01-23 18:05

      Whats a "pool relationship". Farmers and workers swim together?

      Peter - 2012-01-23 20:44

      Ha ha, they all cuddle up in the pool together, very offensive - tee hee.

      Dewald - 2012-01-24 08:24

      Dumb, dumber, David!

  • Vuyo - 2012-01-23 17:34

    Which view is Nomalanga talking about , is it the water/beach. I would go crazy looking at the water all the time . As a black person , what I want is to be given an opportunity to contribute to the growth of my country , rather than to look at the beach all the time.

  • keeperofkaos - 2012-01-23 17:34

    i really fail to see the big deal. is tasteful nudity and interracial relationships still an issue to some? i wasn't even aware.

      Katja - 2012-01-23 21:58

      Exactly, I couldn't care less about the colour of my boyfriends 30 years ago....

  • jandreleroux - 2012-01-23 17:35

    I would argue this is not so much about sex as it is about intimacy in the sense that racial barriers have been broken down. And before these barriers are broken down the townships wont be.

      dawidschalkvanvuuren - 2012-01-24 07:48

      nice.

      Jacqui - 2012-01-24 09:49

      Just because they are nude, everyone screams sex. How shortsighted can you be?. One thing is certain, this poster has a lot of people talking. That some have decided not to vote DA anymore shows that not everyone is happy with a non-racial South Africa.

  • pietertreeraath - 2012-01-23 17:37

    I love the design! It's nice! Does not look sexual at all... And even if you look at it from a sexual angle, it metaphorically speaks about sex as two people becoming one. People with different view, different backgrounds. Leaving the past behind and focussing on the future. They are no more two, but one! It says "WE ARE FOR THE FUTURE"

  • fjbjones - 2012-01-23 17:41

    Now this is how the DA get into bed ;)

      Jason - 2012-01-23 19:25

      I think my 11 year old niece could have posted a better comment than his jones - your bout as sharp as a spoon!!

      Michael - 2012-01-24 08:49

      @Jason - a spoon is far sharper than this jerk trying to keep up with the Joneses!

  • Chris - 2012-01-23 17:43

    Plain stupid.But if someone like to do it their way let them be, it's like kids if you tell them not to do that they will do it only more. I think every one in South Africa must get their act together and things will be fine.

      jody.beggs - 2012-01-23 19:50

      really , did you right this by himself ! If you want to comment try and make sense. Damn the man.

      Michael - 2012-01-24 08:53

      @jody.beggs - you should get your school fees re-imbursed - you know squat about write/wright - and you have the cheek to lambaste! Also you have chosen to be presumptious - Chris could be a woman! Jerk!

      richard.hipkin - 2012-01-24 10:29

      @Micheal, if Chris is a women then that is one fugly chick...

      Michael - 2012-01-24 15:20

      @Pointblank - you also being presumptious - who says the foto posted is that of the writer? It could be her Dad!

  • Gerrit - 2012-01-23 17:47

    These comments that we have here are exactly what the poster points to. You guys are having racial issues again.... Where when one see's this it shouldn't be about color. If you have ever been overseas you will notice inter-racial relationships everywhere. Yet there it doesn't seem a problem you don't even look twice at it as the poster refers to. It's normal.... Wake up people!!!!! Stop making this about politics as well. Just because the DA did this doesn't change the message.

      Motlatjo Lucas Serumula - 2012-01-23 18:23

      it is very naive and idiotic to start comparing SA to overseas interacial relations. Their history is not short of what we are going through as a country. We are not very distant to our diabolic racial past. Our prevailing economic disparity still distactes our views of how far we have come and who owns and controls our economic means. It is still viewed by the majority of South Africans that poverty still clusters us into black and white and no white organisation is able to speak the language of the poor, and therefore, the DA poster is off the mark when majority is worried about their economic means that it potrays racial groups of SA to be in need of intimacy rather than jobs and other means of ecnomic survival. It is not in DA explanation that people are to understand the message, but in what the ordinary citizens of our country interpret and understand when they view the poster. If majority of the masses find it disgusting and distasteful, it therefore points that the poster message is not getting through to the intended target market. It is also stupid to defend what the masses don't appreciate. It therefore tells of how the DA will react to dissatistactions from the masses should it come into power.

      Gerhard - 2012-01-23 18:41

      Motlatjo you are a black racist.

      Irene - 2012-01-23 19:21

      Gerhard - and he's damn stupid too.

      Peter - 2012-01-23 20:57

      What exactly is Motlatjo saying - very long winded and confusing? Do you understand yourself Motlatjo?

      Blip - 2012-01-24 07:52

      Sorry, Motlatjo. Nice try, but your English just isn't good enough to make your thoughts coherent. Keep it shorter. Keep it simpler.

      Harald - 2012-01-24 11:59

      @ Motlatjo, would then be more accurate to have a poster of a squatter camp on a ANC poster?? Don't understand your view of the world, but you do live in the past mate; time to move on... this poster is about bringing races together, not dividing them...

  • hnievd - 2012-01-23 17:47

    They will never ever get my vote again. siesa!!

      markdwinter - 2012-01-23 17:49

      They dont want People like you voting for them anyway tannie.

      Heiku - 2012-01-23 17:54

      A vote is a vote boet.

      Shannon - 2012-01-23 17:56

      Sies why? Cause they are in a mixed relationship - if so, sies on you. If because they might or might not have clothes on, sies on you too!

      John - 2012-01-23 18:03

      Have you ever voted DA?? Just like the old days.... you never voted for the NAT's either, hey ....

      hnievd - 2012-01-23 18:06

      I'm not a TANNIE boetman. Not the last time I looked. And I don't appreciate relationships across the color line. If that's what YOU like, be my guest. I appreciate people of all races, but everyone to their own. Black people on average don't appreciate that also. This is going to hurt the DA.

      Juan - 2012-01-23 18:23

      I seriosly doubt that judged by the amount of dislikes your comments get. The DA never proclaimed to be a white party, but a liberal party. Now you know which way to vote in future, maybe FF+ or join the AWB.

      Peter - 2012-01-23 21:00

      Well I guess you never should have voted for them in the first place, you obviously have no idea of what the DA is trying to achieve in this country. Maybe you are one of those that believes the DA wants to bring back apartheid. Not very bright - rather go FF, they are a whites only party. I dearly wish they'd give you guys a volkstaat, you have absolutely no interest in accepting the current realities in this country.

      Blip - 2012-01-23 22:50

      The chances of ANYONE giving the rightwing racists a "volkstaat" is more remote than the Pope falling pregnant.

      Odicito - 2012-01-25 04:47

      If this is the current mentality in SA, boy do we have a long way to GROW up! My my my, embarrassing to try and explain this to foreign friends. I really DONT understand what all this fuss is about. Good on DA to do this, will be a defining moment, to really see who really supports their ideas, and who just tags along. Might turn out a good thing in a way to get rid of people who say they wont vote them anymore, and then attract more people who share the same ideas than skin colour!!! DA for straight thinkers!

  • Mkulisi - 2012-01-23 17:54

    Nothing wrong with the poster.But senseless to me when it comes to a politcal message.

      christian.helberg - 2012-01-23 18:05

      What the poster is saying Mkulisi, is Black or White, it makes no difference, we are the same, and race shouldnt be an issue. We are one!

      Peter - 2012-01-23 21:08

      We would like to be one, but we aren't. Reading most of the comments I understand why Verwoerd wanted us seperate - I even think some english and afrikaans white people should be seperated.

      Karen - 2012-01-24 08:47

      Mkulisi, what the poster is saying is that they forsee a future where people wont look twice at people of different colours being together - isnt this the ideal that we as a country should be striving towards? That the colour of your skin does not matter - that we all become colour blind and only see the human inside?

      kobiester - 2012-01-24 08:52

      Peter,m, nail on head. haha. I do agree there. We have anuf battling inside 1 race, why introduce another. seperate them all. bahaha...jk u morons that wana burn me... (jk = just kidding -_-) U can be as damn literal as u want, if u dont like it, u dont like it. Who gives a damn? My view dont count, its only when alot of brainwashed people believe in the exact same thing that things get done. And I am far too *i dont give a ****! to be brainwashed. rofl

  • Alva - 2012-01-23 18:02

    Mmmmm....more like a deodorant-fragrance add. Is he wearing the 'Essence of Man'? Is she wearing 'Hoity Toity'?

      Alva - 2012-01-23 18:03

      Ooops! They are wearing nothing and smelling of DASO.

      richard.hipkin - 2012-01-24 10:32

      Oh wow, I think you actually trying to be funny here but failing epically..

  • Ronald - 2012-01-23 18:03

    This is actually a brilliant poster. This poster will immediately, if you are honest about what you feel, draw your prejudices to the fore, be you black, white, coloured or anything else. Now, and continue being honest with yourself, try to analyse the origin of that emotion. If the poster evokes a negative reaction because one of the people depicted is not of your race and you hate that race, you have the starting point from which to work to improve yourself, and as a result, the whole of South Africa. And to think when a couple like this have children, we would always wonder with which culture the child would identify, myself included. Then I had the proverbial brain fart. This child would be South African, not black or white and whatever baggage that might bring. A further thought, these people depict the most basic relationship between two people, one to one, no "black race" versus "white race", just the potential of relating to another person without the colour of your skin interfering. Once you have come to terms with your hang-ups, have another look at this poster. If you have really advanced in your thinking, the only thing you will see is two people embracing. DASO, bloody brilliant, this made me use the pumpkin seeds for a change.

      jody.beggs - 2012-01-23 19:57

      Completely agree, great comment Ronald.

      sachasea - 2012-01-23 20:42

      Absolutely Ronald, you and I think along similar lines. Good for them!

      Peter - 2012-01-23 21:13

      Mozambique is a good example of a well mixed population - go to Maputo, you can see they all consider themselves the same. Ja, ideally the majority in this country should have been coloured - then we would not have had all this nonsense. But I would not have been a contributor to the solution, I'm only attracted physically to white women - like ubhejane only likes black women. So it didn't happen, cause most of us deep down are racist, we can deny it, but its true.

      ruqaiyahdavids - 2012-01-23 21:18

      Very good points made. I agree with you. My only hang up with this poster, however, is that they are (or appear to be) naked. In my opinion, it just cheapens the whole message. Call me a prude, if you like, but I think there should be certain morals and standards which a political party does not trangress. In all honesty, had these two people been fully clothed, I would love it to the moon and back. I'd even post it on my Facebook profile. No kidding. My issue is not with the races, it is solely with the lack of clothing.

      sachasea - 2012-01-23 23:08

      There is nothing whatsoever wrong with nudity. The human form is beautiful to behold in its stark and natural state. Interesting that nudity has been voiced as one of the reasons this advert is so controversial. Perhaps the advertisement's intended aim is to raise questions about prudish perceptions as much as racial ones?

      dawidschalkvanvuuren - 2012-01-24 07:41

      this is beautiful. i love SA and we will change our country.

  • leko.dada1 - 2012-01-23 18:04

    sex sells! black chicks will join DA for sex. THIS IS WHAT DA IS CAPABLE OF PRODUCING...ONCE AGAIN THEY CLAIM TO BE HIGHLY EDUCATED.

      Ronald - 2012-01-23 18:31

      If what you say becomes true, it proves that size doesn't count, eh ;-)

      Irene - 2012-01-23 19:23

      Forget the 'highly' part, it's a pity you're not educated.

      Blip - 2012-01-23 22:53

      If you are joining a political paty for sex, you're very, very confused! You'll probably watch kung-fu movies for exercise. Or eat a bucket of KFC to lose weight.

      Jacqui - 2012-01-24 09:56

      You don't have a high opinion about black chicks do you?.

  • Tumisang Biggie Takang - 2012-01-23 18:05

    As a graphic designer I see no problem with the poster and I believe that it did get to its intended audience...we are taught to think outside the box when we do campaigns and to put ideas on paper and motivate them...I see a total different picture wich talks about the future...its time educated people use their brains and see the bigger picture...big ups to that pic!!!

      boatmedic - 2012-01-23 18:32

      and what about the people with no or minimal education that see it on a lamp post????? Those that were not as fortunate as you to become a graphic designer... Just asking

      STYLEbudd - 2012-01-24 10:05

      Agreed 100% with u Tumi well said... but its a given that some will be offended by it we can't please everyone! I think its beautiful and a reflection of the DA that they are NOT racists at all. Infact people seem to forget that the DA came out of a party full of WHITE anti-apartheid activists like Helen Suzzman etc. The NP let their people down and joined the ANC eventually = the very ones who were the racists so lets cut the racist crap about the DA! This poster is great - now lets see a gay and lesbian one lol

  • John - 2012-01-23 18:06

    Funny how the moment the clothes are removed it becomes sexual....

      STYLEbudd - 2012-01-24 10:07

      well maybe it will stir up some superstition too.... like if u want a rich umlungu, vote DA! You never know hey?

  • Burtfred - 2012-01-23 18:14

    The DA can get away with such a poster because it represents a non-racial future and that is the policy of their party. If the same poster had been put out by the ANC, it would be a complete and utter lie. They have no intention or method of deracializing South Africa. They only exist because they a "black" party.

  • Maximus Odinidus - 2012-01-23 18:17

    Some people on this forum are just plain stupid, no matter how intellectual they are. To prove my point: I am so called coloured married to a white person. Two of my grandparents are white so I grew up in a slightly different environment. There is on common thread in the stupidity of south African citizens and that is racism. We've had black, white coloured and Indian people shaking their heads at us in shopping centers and guess what if you get to know some of those people you'd know that with all their finger wagging they are unhappy in their own lives. My daughter is the most beautiful child and admired by all races. And if you have a problem with the fact that my child is from a multi racial background I'd be happy to rearrange you ideas or maybe just your face.

      Gerhard - 2012-01-23 18:47

      I could not have said it better myself.

      Jeffrey - 2012-01-23 19:31

      As a "white" Capetonian I am right behind you. Nothing wrong with the picture, nothing wrong with "mixed-race" couples either. I'm more worried about how the Stormers will do than who is romancing whom in Cape Town.

      jody.beggs - 2012-01-23 20:01

      @Maxodin. Wish South Africa had more people like you to replenish the rainbow nation. Damn Racism.

      Peter - 2012-01-23 21:23

      Racists should just learn to tolerate people who are not racist. There is no visa versa in this argument. I'm racist I guess as I am not physically attracted to black women, but I am not offended by mixed couples. I do worry about the risk children from mixed couples face, there are so many intolerant racists, they'll even be nasty to children. I am freindly to black people who treat me with respect and as an equal, who don't have a chip on their shoulder. I don't respect stupid racists who do not realise the consequences of their actions, such as those who think a black man respects being called a "k" in his face. Even if a racist, you should never allow racism to control your life, it is not a positive thing, and we should learn to control it. It is not a good place to be, and should be seen as a limitation rather then something to be proud of. (As many black and white racists seem to be)

      Jacqui - 2012-01-24 10:00

      I have a coloured friend, we have been friends for more than forty years. Just a pity we get all these stares when we are having lunch together. Highly uncomfortable.

      sachasea - 2012-01-24 10:46

      Jacqui, I have quite a few coloured friends and a handful of black ones. I love hanging out and walking around town with them. The inevitable funny looks that one gets doesn't bother me in the slightest. In fact I find it quite comical. I won't ever feel bad about socialising with people of different races to my own as I don't have any issues with it and if other people do that's their karma and choice.

      Merven - 2012-01-25 07:53

      @Peter Racism is like religion, there is only one way, and that is their way.

  • Whitty - 2012-01-23 18:20

    (___O___)s

      Mcebisi - 2012-01-24 12:21

      lmbao

  • Eugene - 2012-01-23 18:21

    symbolism and advertising goes hand in hand...this has got nothing to do with sex or race. it is about unity...my opinion. at least they are getting noticed and a message across...maybe a positive one. education might help a bit. no hope for any of us so far by reading some of these comments. man and woman as equals...black white whatever. it is a message of love not hate. i believe stick to your believes and what you perceive as right for you. dont decide for others. DEMOCRACY does that ring any bells or is ECONOMIC FREEDOM more important? you can have that with a little hard work...without democracy you will be thirsty and watch your leaders drinks champagne on your behalf...think a bit before you speak or defend something that cares nothing for you except your vote. go dig up those old elections posters from the first free elections...in the apartheid museum and ask yourself...how much of a lie was which...

  • eben.ferreira1 - 2012-01-23 18:21

    Great Poster

  • Silver - 2012-01-23 18:27

    WTF... I’m voting for the ANC now! At least they want everything black. Oh, auntie Zille..... I puked on my keyboard. You owe me a new one.

      Gerhard - 2012-01-23 18:49

      Piet why don't you curl up and die?

      Juan - 2012-01-23 19:01

      @Gerhard oh it's alright he doesn't know what he is missing lol.

      Peter - 2012-01-23 21:24

      Another deep thinker - vomiting Pietie.

      Greek - 2012-01-24 09:37

      Piet.You are the weakest link. Good bye

      Merven - 2012-01-25 07:54

      You guys don't understand, Piet wanted a white man and black man hugging.

  • boatmedic - 2012-01-23 18:27

    Oh my word....... If you want to prove equality, then prove it in a way that it wont turn in a racial sexist story. How about showing black and white people living in harmony. Try living next to different color before showing "sexual" hints or gestures. What future are you promoting.....?? And don't give me the crap of being a racist..... On the contrary, I am far from that. What is next? Having sex without condoms will unite us all.... For graduates creating this add, I would have thought of better problem solutions. So you are our future??? Mmmmmmm Interesting....

      sachasea - 2012-01-23 20:46

      I think it shows serious creativity and ingenuity on the part of the students. They are trying to break the mold, it could be regarded as a revolutionary act of advertising. Keep up the good work guys.

      boatmedic - 2012-01-23 21:26

      Its the same violin being played with drum sticks. Race race race...... If they want to become creative then stop rattling a cage that has been rattled for hundreds of years.... New young blood should create new young ideas.... I am all for new ideas, but this generates a lot of confused opinions amongst the voters..... You need votes, and with this propaganda they are sure to loose votes. They should have approached it differently.

      ubhejane - 2012-01-23 23:12

      Thank you Boatmedic. You are one of the few that understands the dynamics of our political landscape.

  • Boer - 2012-01-23 18:29

    yip, the DA knows that it will never compete with the ANC if it doesnt attract more black people ...and young people are more easily influenced. the older generation is always going to vote ANC. next time it will only be 2 black people in the poster. #goodpolitics

  • Gerhard - 2012-01-23 18:29

    Absolutely marvellous!

  • tumbledwyer - 2012-01-23 18:30

    Wow, the ignorance is astounding. So many people have completely missed the boat on this one. You see half naked people in Lux and Sanex adverts on a daily basis and I bet most of the people complaining religiously watch Grey's Anatomy, where most of the hospital staff have sex with each other every episode. So what if it's provocative, that's what gives it impact. The message is probably the most important message South Africans need to hear... Race doesn't matter. As long as South African policies are shaped along racial lines, this country will never move forward. I applaud the DA for having the balls to put this out there. You have my vote.

      ubhejane - 2012-01-23 19:01

      They have just lost my vote! And I worked for them in the last election. I am done with them. I don't need to loose my identity to prove I can be a liberal thinker when it comes to politics.

      heinrich.crouse - 2012-01-23 19:22

      ubhe - if your sense of self is so weak that you feel it threatened by other cultures and colours, then you should perhaps withdraw to your little village in the hills where your fragile identity can stagnate unthreatened.

      Jeffrey - 2012-01-23 19:38

      @ubhejane, No-one is asking you to give up your Zulu identity, however tribalism has brought plenty of problems to Africa, which the colonists were able to exploit. By all means be proud of being a Zulu, just accept that people of different tribes or races can fall in love, or just be good friends. I'm sure the DA would never ask you to give up your Zulu identity. However don't let your Zulu identity define what others might choose in their relationships.

      Peter - 2012-01-23 21:30

      Ubhejane, an afrikaans commentor (or so he claims) mentioned you black dudes don't respect the english as we are devious, we are not bluntly racist in your face. I feel, reading your comments on this issue, that in your case the guy is true, you really admire someone calling you "k" in your face? But I would like to hear it from you - maybe I'm reading you wrong. Do you find being spoken to and treated like dirt admirable? I'm one of the devious engelse, just trying to get some clarity on this one.

      Jacqui - 2012-01-24 10:04

      Ubhejane, if this is all it takes for you not to vote for the DA, you haven't understood their message to begin with. So what will they lose if you don't vote for them?.

  • Andrew - 2012-01-23 18:30

    It seems to me that many of the people commenting here have missed the point that we need to change the mindset of both black and white in South Africa. I personally thought the poster was beautiful but there is one thing which puzzles me, How do the people who call these people naked know this? They must have very dirty minds. I am sure they have clothes on and it is just skilful photography and a well placed slogan that may hide the fact. The people who think this is disgusting are devoid of beauty or recognising beauty.

  • susan.ryall - 2012-01-23 18:32

    Beautiful poster, you go DASO!!!

  • Brad.Kopping - 2012-01-23 18:34

    So whats the problem? i have no problem with inter-racial relationships. seriously some people need to get over themselves...

  • Alon - 2012-01-23 18:40

    Brilliant! Love it! So nice to see another youth league other than the ANCYL in the media, and with a positive message to! Wow!

      Alex Sedibe - 2012-01-25 07:41

      i don't see anything wrong about de post ppl does days are gone let's face reality of de country,sex is part of our life lets talk about it in odder 2 save our child's life,black or white we work 2gether now so why cant we tk pktures!!!!

  • Gabiba - 2012-01-23 18:46

    we have a LONG way to go in this country. does news24 advertise for bigoted comments or do some of you have like 'race radar' that makes you crawl out of the woodwork when anything promoting non-racialism is in the news? if you dont 'get' the poster, then u are part of the problem, not the solution.

      ubhejane - 2012-01-23 18:57

      I'm a proud Zulu, what is there to get about this poster? That I should loose my identity to move forward and to live in peace with other races? I don't need a white girl in my bed to prove anything to anybody!

      Rocky - 2012-01-24 07:17

      ubhejane - you should think outside the "box".

      Jacqui - 2012-01-24 10:08

      Ubhejane, your identity is something you are born with, it is not formed by the person you sleep with. You just don't get it.

      richard.hipkin - 2012-01-24 10:39

      Ubhejane, I think you should change your name to Umkhombo, because I think you fake.

      Fiona - 2012-01-24 12:02

      Hi Ubejhane, we hear and accept that you are a proud Zulu. Let's just get to the point in this country where everyone can be proud of their ethnic origins - because that is a good and praiseworthy thing - and still allow others to make their own choice. If others choose to be inter-racial you should not see it as a threat to your own ethnic stance, because it is not. Live and let live. @ anyone who commented to this effect - yes, my first thought was also that no-one can actually say whether the man and woman are unclad or not - or married or not! This is a YOUTH advert and the youth see romance everywhere. Let's now see the adults of the DA show a poster with elderly clad people (and maybe not so good-looking either) sitting comfortably together having a chat or playing scrabble or something. More acceptable perhaps to the offended purists of all descriptions?

  • christian.helberg - 2012-01-23 18:50

    The past and the present ruling parties are about race, all our issues stem form this seperation, we want more, we deserve more then this, and that is what this poster represents. A non-racial future. We are not saying that black and white need to jump into bed together, lose your heritage, your culture and who you are, no, by no means. We are saying that race shouldnt and doesnt matter, that we need to be ONE if we are to over come the past, and the present. Dont read so much into the poster, it is not about black and white, but about what is between the lines. We have been segrigated by politics, and religion, our leaders encourage this, they fuel our hatred so that they can divide and conquer us all. Together we can achieve the impossible, and no longer have to be prisoners to our parents hatred.

      Donny Doncaster - 2012-01-23 19:08

      shot!

      jody.beggs - 2012-01-23 20:10

      Save the Rainbow Nation.

  • Sean - 2012-01-23 18:53

    I find this whole article racist and sexist, strange religion was not discussed as well!? This is a democratic country, but nothing should be shoved down anyone's throat either, we should be able to make our own decisions based on our own opinions! If a poster is displayed we are entitled to decipher it the way we want to.

      Peter - 2012-01-23 19:10

      True, but I'm afraid you're totally missing the point...

  • Nyiko Ngobeni - 2012-01-23 18:56

    Hypocrisy abounds with liberal politics. I studied in a white university. Worked in white law firms. Had white friends. But tell me the leader of DASO or his family will be ok if I'm dating his sister? Very little chance of that. Let's be real about this

      Maximus Odinidus - 2012-01-23 19:28

      How do you know? Have you tried?

      ubhejane - 2012-01-23 19:39

      Thanks Nyiko. This is the truest comment on here today!

      paulmandlankosi - 2012-01-23 19:45

      Best comment so far Nyiko, we have heard comments before, like; "if you go black we do not want you back"

      The Real Unskinny - 2012-01-23 20:58

      @Nyiko: I agree - that IS the reality. But it shouldn't be. The status quo needs to go.

      Jacqui - 2012-01-24 10:10

      Have you tried dating his sister?.Or is this comment just another fling of your imagination?.

      JohncarlosBiza - 2012-01-24 15:42

      Dumb stereotypes. The DASO leader(responsible for the poster) happens to be black

  • Eduard - 2012-01-23 18:57

    Well done...!!! why should it be different to two of the same colour?

  • Perfume5 - 2012-01-23 18:59

    Provocative position, I don't see anything wrong with this poster!!!!

  • Peter - 2012-01-23 19:00

    Awesome poster. Surely gets the message across that the DA is out to make a better SA for ALL to live in regardless of race, creed or colour, without spreading unwanted racial tension for their own gain. Those offended by this because it depicts a mixed race couple should ask themselves why it makes them feel that way. Remember the poster is not trying to promote mixed dating, it's merely the most simple, short, and effective way of getting their message of a non-racial forward thinking SA across.

  • Perfume5 - 2012-01-23 19:06

    If the poster has made so many angry, then stop advise all inter-racial couples to stop seeing each other, as it is promoting sex lmao!!!!! I have seen worse on the beach, I have seen Rihanna do provocative, models etc - again I ask "what is so provocative by the poster", did both models feel uncomfortable posing for the poster, ask any Ad Agency you might get the real meaning behind the poster - the mind truly boggles.

  • Errol - 2012-01-23 19:07

    Hard hitting but...it is a future scenario.No doubt!!

  • Busisiwe Mabusi Hadebe - 2012-01-23 19:10

    I really don't understand what the fuss is regarding this poster, we come across on mass media on a daily basis. Is it because there are two races involved?? Going through some of your comments, its clear South Africa still has a long way to go when it comes to Reconciling races, its sad :-(

      ruqaiyahdavids - 2012-01-23 20:43

      I think that what the fuss is about is that this is politics -- not a soapie or drama series on TV. Sex and nudity are not things that one readily associates with the politics of a country, with the potential future leaders of a country. Leading a country is greater than getting naked with someone of a different race.

      richard.hipkin - 2012-01-24 10:41

      How you see sex and nudity astounds me... for me it looks like a coupoe very much in love sharing a loving moment.... You have serious issues and I bet you pretty rigid in bed as well?

  • heinrich.crouse - 2012-01-23 19:17

    Nice poster guys. You had to know it would cause the hardliners to come out from under their rocks. Never! Not I! Disgusting sex! etc etc. I bet 90% of the comments are of that nature. This does cause a stir now, but even you rabid volkspeople have to know in some dark recess of your minds that race and culture, especially SA culture, is so young, so weak, it will not matter in any future. Zulu? What? 200 years old? Afrikaner? 300? Please. That's not culture, that's in nappies. To make such a fuss about it is inappropriate. Stop being silly. Race is a social construct. Time to start constructing. Culture is not formed in a couple of hundred years. There's work to be done.