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De Kock up for parole - department

2011-12-14 21:57

Johannesburg - Apartheid assassin Eugene de Kock is to be considered for parole, the correctional services department said on Wednesday.

"[The hearing] was supposed to take place today, but it was postponed," spokesperson Phumlani Ximiya told Sapa.

Ximiya was not immediately able to explain what caused the postponement or confirm the new date set for the hearing.

De Kock, along with fellow hit squad killer Ferdi Barnard, are among a number of inmates affected by a ruling made by the North Gauteng High Court in Pretoria in July this year.

It stipulates that anyone sentenced to life imprisonment before October 1 2004 must now automatically be considered for parole after serving 13 years and four months of their sentence.

"The law requires that the department facilitates for the inmate to be considered for parole... It's because of that ruling that his [De Kock's] consideration for parole has been put forward," Ximiya said.

He said the standard procedure for a parole application started with a case management committee compiling a profile on the inmate. The committee would hand over the profile to the parole board and suggest a direction in which the application should go.

Rehabilitation

The parole board would then make a decision on the inmate's eligibility based on the profile and factors such as the length of incarceration, and whether the inmate had attended rehabilitation programmes, such as for anger management or self-control.

Submissions from victims were also considered.

The board would then make a recommendation to a national council. The council would look into the case and pass on its recommendation to the minister, who had the final say.

Ximiya said the department had previously published a call in newspapers for victims or their relatives to make submissions when criminals sentenced to life before October 1 2004 came up for parole.

In March last year, Rapport newspaper reported that De Kock had applied for presidential pardon after meeting the president in 2009.

"I think Jacob Zuma has more understanding for my position because he was a warrior himself. Perhaps the Truth and Reconciliation Commission should have been managed by fellow soldiers from both sides of the field," he was quoted as saying in the newspaper at the time.

Vlakplaas

De Kock, the commander of the apartheid-era Vlakplaas security police unit, is currently serving two life terms and 212 years at Pretoria's C-max prison for masterminding assassinations of suspected anti-apartheid activists.

The Constitutional Court, in a judgment at the end of February last year, forbade the president from granting pardons to perpetrators of political violence without first consulting victims.

De Kock told the newspaper at the time that he looked forward to working after coming to grips with a changed society.

"I have no idea what the world out there looks like. I can't even answer a cellphone," he said.

He also did not foresee problems in adapting to the new South Africa.

"I was one of the few policemen, perhaps the only one, who wasn't a racist."

Comments
  • jack.oosthuysen - 2011-12-14 22:08

    The point is, why was the hearing postponed.

  • Geronimo - 2011-12-14 22:45

    I'm sorry, I don't care who he is but NO convicted killer sentenced to LIFE IMPRISONMENT (212 years in this case) should be up for parole after a mere 13 years. What a joke of a "life sentence", what a joke of a criminal justice system.

      mundu.olewega - 2011-12-14 23:20

      He's a prisoner of war and the war is OVER! Let him go.

      Azande - 2011-12-15 00:16

      mundu, was there any war here? did u read the article?

      mundu.olewega - 2011-12-15 04:15

      Yes Azande, your leaders declared it when they took up the armed struggle and proceeded to plant bombs aimed at killing SA civilians. De Kok was only responding in kind.

      Lorenzo - 2011-12-15 07:28

      "Prisoner of war" HE WAS CONVICTED OF MURDER, he should be eligible for parole in 25 years, let him sit

      Ettienne - 2011-12-15 09:23

      And how many others are walking free amongst us, who rule the land, that also planted bombs, killed, mamed, masterminded assassinations pre '94? Besides that, how many convicted MURDERERS of farmers and innocent people are walking free? Free to just do so again when they get out. Unrehabilitated monsters who only know how to kill, rape and steal. They get a little slap on the wrist and a 5 year holiday with two hot meals a day. Eugene paid his dues. He was a victim of sircumstance. He followed orders, he did as he was told. It was WAR. At least you know that should they let him out on parole, that he will not kill again, unlike the 1000's of others roaming our lands wanting to do harm. I mean really now, think for a bit (for some here it might be a first). Who's he gonna harm? He has no power. He has no right wing, extremists affiliation. No one is ordering him anymore. No one is paying him to do so. He's a harmless old man with no ill intensions. i.e. NOT an animal, murderous, raping monster. He's nothing in this new world.

      Warmonger - 2011-12-15 13:16

      Bravo Ettienne.... Well spoken

  • KenJayMay - 2011-12-14 22:55

    Think about it!.....he will be 263 years old when he gets out!

  • Cliff K Masola - 2011-12-14 23:00

    Dnt let da dog out,most racist ppl thy gonna say he hv parole,most families stil hurt 4 wat he did..,he is also an apartheid criminal

      Graham - 2011-12-15 02:04

      I agree - life should mean life

      Russell - 2011-12-15 06:11

      Most families hurt for what Mandela did too you chop.

      Fidel - 2011-12-15 08:20

      @Rusell Who did Mandela hurt? The ANC armed campaign started after the sharpeville massacre which was the killing of unarmed civilians by your police dogs. Should Africans have continued carrying placards outside your offices for the next 50 years? Unfortunately, white colonialist attitudes to black people are similar to those of psychopaths: Psychopaths lack a sense of guilt or remorse for any harm they may have caused others, instead rationalizing the behavior, blaming someone else, or denying it outright.[19] Psychopaths also lack empathy towards others in general, resulting in tactlessness, insensitivity, and contemptuousness. All of this belies their tendency to make a good, likable first impression. Psychopaths have a superficial charm about them, enabled by a willingness to say anything without concern for accuracy or truth. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy You and the lazy that recommended your post fit this description perfectly.

      Ettienne - 2011-12-15 09:40

      You sure do know a lot about Psychos Fidel. Maybe a little too much?? Go read a history book moron. Mandela has as much blood on his hands as De Kock.

      BA - 2011-12-15 10:51

      Marc please tell us what mandela did for SA other than orchestrating acts of terrorism?

      Fidel - 2011-12-15 11:01

      @BA It is people like Mandela that ensured that your ilk never forgot what it is to be a human being like, and not the bastards that you were/are and the world's polecast.

      Marc - 2011-12-15 11:01

      BA - yo bish ass , if you dont know that yet then there is no point in me telling you becuase you must be too mentally deficient to retain any information - but to put it in simple terms for you - if it wasnt for mandela white south africans would have been mobbed and slaughtered. you absolute toss

      Ettienne - 2011-12-15 11:06

      Please don't get me wrong. Kudos to Madiba for not killing off whites when he became President. I was simply stating a fact Marc. EVERYONE involved in the apartheid struggle, on both sides are guilty of unimaginable crimes. Why is it that the one side is praised and the other condemned, yet they are both guilty of the same crime? Where is the equality and justice in that? Why weren't they also judged by the TRC? a Lot of comments here read: " Let the muderer pay for his crimes." What do you call what Madiba and a lot of other high ranking ANC supporters did in the apartheid era? Fact: They killed innocent children, wives, brothers, sisters...fathers. How much different is that to De Kock? He was a murderous bastard who pretty much did exactly the same. Why is his similar crimes, in the same "war" era, unforgivable? Like Madiba, he was just another soldier carrying out orders and fighting for his side. If he turns out to be a murderous bastard still then I'll be in the front of the que shouting to throw him back in jail and forever lose the key. BUT DO NOT COME HERE and pretend that Nelson Rolihlahla Mandela is an innocent man. He is not praised for what he did during the struggle. He will forever be praised and remembered for what he did after. He is still going to be judged same as every other soul, one day for what he did. Are you going to get all mad and condescending towards God as well for daring to call a spade a spade??? Me thinks not.

      BA - 2011-12-15 13:04

      LOL Marc what a pathetic answer! Try again

      Beldered Matywatywa - 2013-12-24 05:48

      @ Cliff sent De Koek to China on vacation with 2kg cocaine stashed in his luggage. At least he will get an injection instead of 212 years.

  • ReunionofIntelligentMinds - 2011-12-14 23:02

    Shouldn't Clive Derby Lewis and his associate also be eligable for parol? He should qualify for 2 reasons namely it was also before 2004 and he is seriously ill.

      Never-apologize - 2011-12-15 00:45

      01 October 2004, Intelligent Minds my foot....Nxa...!

      Beldered Matywatywa - 2013-12-24 05:40

      Derby-Lewis will only be eligble for parole in the year 3000 for all I care.

  • Azande - 2011-12-15 00:18

    Give him parole. then put 3kg of tic in his luggage and send him to China for a vacation.

      Daan - 2011-12-15 09:32

      Nog 'n SUURSTOFDIEF

      Beldered Matywatywa - 2013-12-24 05:44

      Ayanda what a nice one...or give him parole & send him to Aghanistan to work as a suicide bomber. Put those vests on with the bolts & bombs. Tell him his family will be taken care of. Set the time to 15 seconds. Just enough time to sing "Die Stem". Kwaaaaaa

  • Mantsho - 2011-12-15 00:40

    Who is De Kock now?

      Azande - 2011-12-15 00:43

      besides what is said in the article?

      KenJayMay - 2011-12-15 00:45

      In prison he is known as Sakkie de Kock

  • Joseph - 2011-12-15 03:08

    No problem for me.

  • Garysyd705 - 2011-12-15 05:27

    I wander if he has fond god you have to find him to get prole Lol. That's a fact and a forst thing. You have to have godey or no Prole"!

  • John - 2011-12-15 06:44

    can he not take sick and get parole, I thought this was normal procedure

  • Larry - 2011-12-15 07:18

    A pity he did not acquire a Suntan while inside. He would have been out and playing Golf by now.

      Daan - 2011-12-15 09:35

      To get a suntan like that you must give away 90% of your brain to qualify

  • Darkie - 2011-12-15 07:29

    No matter what you(white, invisible, racist pigs) say, whether he walks or not is up to the families of the people he murdered. If one, just one family says he shouldn't be released, he'll never walk out of prison. Black people forgive too easily. I hope those families say NO!

      Musa - 2011-12-15 08:20

      Agree, chief!

      gerhard.ludick - 2011-12-15 08:24

      Darkie, buddy, he met with the families 3 years ago, they all forgave him ofr the crimes that he done. Let it go, it is a new South Africa.

      Jacqui - 2011-12-15 09:49

      Black people forgive to easily!!!!!! What a beautiful characteristic to have.

  • phinda.buthelezi - 2011-12-15 08:04

    Why even mention this? "The ANC government" if the release this man in hopes that it will stir racial tension and invoke the ANC patriotism and gain votes for them in the elections. We must all see this as what it is. ANC dont release this man or we'll speak out when racial tension peaks from this action.

  • pietersronnie - 2011-12-15 08:13

    I do hope it happens soon. Past is past, but will never forget.Same to the other that went the same way.

  • Musa - 2011-12-15 08:15

    No, this man is dangerous to Blacks, he is a cruel murderer who deserves to rot in prison. That's the problem we have with this justice system dominated by apartheid judges. Why such a ruling? Let see if this murderer can evade mob justice. Bloody cruel, apartheid agent!

      Ian - 2011-12-15 08:22

      fatboy is dangerous to blacks

      claudevn - 2011-12-15 08:30

      Their just as unfair towards CORRUPT government officials... lol "Justice system dominated by Apartheid judges"?!?!?! Surely you are kidding lol How do you propose all the corruption charges against HIGH government officials are so suddenly and suspiciously dropped?!?! LOL I dont think that the "Aparthied Agent Judges" unfolding some strangely backwards masterPLAN lol Ignorance must be a bliss right?!?! lol

      Daan - 2011-12-15 09:47

      Musa, be afraid, be very afraid. You are a sad sack of s#it.

  • Ian - 2011-12-15 08:20

    run fatboy run

  • Fidel - 2011-12-15 08:38

    The ANC armed campaign started after the sharpeville massacre which was the killing of unarmed civilians by the apartheid state police dogs. Should Africans have continued carrying placards outside offices for the next 50 years? Unfortunately, white colonialist attitudes to black people are similar to those of psychopaths: Psychopaths lack a sense of guilt or remorse for any harm they may have caused others, instead rationalizing the behavior, blaming someone else, or denying it outright.[19] Psychopaths also lack empathy towards others in general, resulting in tactlessness, insensitivity, and contemptuousness. All of this belies their tendency to make a good, likable first impression. Psychopaths have a superficial charm about them, enabled by a willingness to say anything without concern for accuracy or truth. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy

      Ettienne - 2011-12-15 09:41

      Get back under your bridge, troll.

      Jacqui - 2011-12-15 09:52

      Offensive dribble, to say the least.

      Fidel - 2011-12-15 10:07

      Going for the tinfoil hat wearing Troll response shows only that you cannot provide any more counter arguments.

      Richard - 2011-12-15 10:10

      ....shame Fidel....apartheid is over...the real question now is why after 15 years in power have the ANC done nothing to uplift their people....while billions ...yes billions of Rands have disappeared...unaccounted for or been corruptly misappropriated for their own ends ... while the masses continue to live in abject poverty....answer that....its not about black and white anymore....the black elite are now openly stealing taxpayers money at the expense of their own fellow underprivileged citizens and somehow with the help of imbeciles such as yourself still somehow trying to blame someone else...get a grip....

      Ettienne - 2011-12-15 10:28

      Says he who copies, pastes and repeats. I don't need to argue or debate with you. You're doing a sterling job of making yourself look like the moronic douche of the day, Fidel. I'm going to kick back and just enjoy watching you self implode. It's fun being me.

      Fidel - 2011-12-15 10:29

      @Richard Naturally, my vociferous opposition to apartheid apologists does not necessarily entail support for the ANC.

      Fidel - 2011-12-15 10:54

      @Ettiene You mean you cannot come up with a credible response.

      davieoosie - 2011-12-15 11:09

      I see Fidel can copy and paste. Good for you, Fidel! Now try history.

      Beldered Matywatywa - 2013-12-24 05:17

      @Rich give ANC 50 years just like your useless poephol National Party then we can compare. P.W Botha has achieved nothing in 50 years..not even the NP's vision of a seperate state with their own legislation.Madiba of course achieved a lot in 27 years. Nobel Peace Prize,President,Canadian citizenship.lol

  • kaMazibuko - 2011-12-15 09:27

    Bloody dog should have been hanged....and if any boer dog dislikes my comment, just know ure an a$$....when black people are convicted of crimes even if not violent, u scream "animals" "barbarians" "bring back death penalty" "only in africa"etc this person masterminded the butchering of scores of apartheid activists, he must pay for his crimes, i say 30 more years then you can start talking parole

      Jacqui - 2011-12-15 09:59

      I know what it is to get a call at three in the morning informing me that I am the next to be killed, just after my friend Dulcie Septemebr was assasinated in Paris. I don't hate and your words tell me that here we, again, have to do with someone who have never been in the struggle. Tell me do you have any idea what it is like to have to explain to your children that they can never open a parcel or letter, even when addressed to them because we have to be aware that letter bombs can also be send to us? No, of course you don't that is why you shout so loud..

      Yurak - 2011-12-15 10:28

      another one of my posts removed??? @kaMazibuko...all I said is that my "boer dog" loves to nibbel on black a$$ and the best part is ,I trained him not to eat anything that is not comming from my hand so how about you feed your 2-step to your children.

      Beldered Matywatywa - 2013-12-24 05:31

      Oh, Jacqui what do you know about struggle your poephol P.W Botha made you whites what you are today...narrow minded with Nazi ideology. That's why you 10% boere population will never rule this country EVER again. @Yuri (weet nie wat nie)gaan terug na jou land want Putin wag vir jou daar met n koekie seep om jou hol te lubricante

  • Rebel_without_a_cause - 2011-12-15 09:39

    Dear News24. Please explain how you decide what posts to erase and what posts you leave on the site. Highly offensive and deeply racist posts like the ones from Fidel seem to be acceptable. (I doubt if this post will survive the News24 censors)

      Fidel - 2011-12-15 10:14

      What is offensive about my post? Are you a white colonialist, who harbours an attitude towards blacks that is similar to that of a pyschopath? Is that clear enough for you? I used to be amazed by the lack of comprehension of most caucasians on these threads, not anymore.

      Yurak - 2011-12-15 10:23

      Fidel. an ant walking on a stick is as far as your comprehension of the word amazement can go.

      Fidel - 2011-12-15 10:34

      @Yurak Your petty jibe is really rather pathetic. The bellicose comments here actually lend my post further credibility.

      Ettienne - 2011-12-15 11:23

      Fidi, you're such a thick bonehead! I totally agree with Rebel. You ask what is offensive about your post and in the very next damn sentence you make an offensive, racist comment just like ALL the others you made today. WTF dude???? LOL!!!!

      Rebel_without_a_cause - 2011-12-15 11:43

      @Fidel There you go with your supremist comments again: "amazed by the lack of comprehension of most caucasians" You post this in a public forum read by people all over the globe and you think it is not offensive. Also, the white population in South Africa is called "white colonialist" by the militant radicalists blasting the white hatred message to the extreme. If you are just trying to be controversial with your posts, you are succeeding. Your words are chosen to include maximum deniability while attempting to invoke maximum emotional response. That is offensive to the extreme. It is on par with the hate speech song where "kill" appears in relationship with a certain ethnic minority. Your lack of comprehension of the damage your words are causing is unforgivable. Then again, your words are calculated and measured to cause damage.

      Fidel - 2011-12-15 11:48

      Black people as a race are slandered daily on these threads. Then you complain when black people get angry. That is the attitude of a psychopath not the people who react angrily to it.

      Rebel_without_a_cause - 2011-12-15 12:26

      Fidel, are you using your anger as motivation and justification for your derogatory words?

      Fidel - 2011-12-15 13:50

      What is derogatory about likening the attitude of whites who have a colonial mindset as akin to those of a psychopath? Please enlighten me. We need to speak what we believe to be the truth to one another, rather than being guided by political correctness.

      Beldered Matywatywa - 2013-12-24 05:19

      @Etienne that rich coming from you. Racist? That your middle name. Go to Oz just like your other poephol counterparts.

  • Daan - 2011-12-15 09:54

    Eugene, jy bly 'n HERO. Byt vas my vriend. Eendag, as die koeie huistoe kom en die CancER hulle gatte sien, sal dinge weer regkom. Moenie "tan" nie. Jy hoef nie gholf te speel om 'n hero te wees nie.

      Fidel - 2011-12-15 10:18

      Nostalgic for apartheid!

      Beldered Matywatywa - 2013-12-24 05:08

      Ja hy's n hero net soos Eugene Terblabche wat sy gat gesien & wat met sy broek op sy kniee dood gele het met sy tollie in sy bek. Wat dink hy om n swart man te rape, het hy nie genoeg by sy vrou gekry.

  • Martins Mogale - 2011-12-15 10:05

    we dont need them in our society,they must be kept in jail, let them rot there.

  • Martins Mogale - 2011-12-15 10:05

    we dont need them in our society,they must be kept in jail, let them rot there.

  • Annette - 2011-12-15 10:35

    It makes me sick to think that the people who comment negatively on racial issues and all issues are the people who we all have to live with for the rest of our lives rather help make the country a better place then fighting over black and white and who did what way back when. I’m sure half of you went even born when all of this went down. Really people how do we want to go forward if you keep looking back?

  • julie.botha - 2011-12-15 10:37

    To all you people recommending sending the ones you dont like to Oz. What the heck makes you think Oz wants them. They are born bred and created to what they are in South Africa, South Africa should keep them. Stop trying to dump rubbish in someone elses back yard. THAT is typical of South Africa.

      Beldered Matywatywa - 2013-12-24 05:02

      Julie rubbish is an understatement. They would be thrown in Kimberley big hole with enough dynamites to rid us from their racist ideological mindsets.

  • Oukaapje - 2011-12-15 10:42

    Let's be fair now. Murder must be punished. Killing civilians with bombs or defenceless farmers is not justifiable. Bring them all back to Justice Strijdom, MacBride, and all the thousands who were given amnesty only to continue their criminal ways. De Kock is especially feared by our ruling party for some reason. Keep him locked up by all means but put the others back behind bars too. They are still killing and robbing.

  • Pumlani - 2011-12-15 11:18

    Let him him stay there, I dont care what arguements you might have for his release, they wont change the fact that he is a murderer that was lucky not to get the death penalty...let him serve his life sentence in peace until he dies!!!! Some of you were happy that the execution took place in China on Monday for the lady that was a drug mule, but you want a murderer to go free...thats just crazy!

      Beldered Matywatywa - 2013-12-24 04:45

      True let him rot in pieces in jail

  • Elle-Black - 2011-12-15 12:12

    @ Ettienne the great historian,how many people do you purport Nelson Mandela killed? clearly your recollection of history differs from everybody elses

      Ettienne - 2011-12-15 13:20

      Well Black Elle, let's see... He was the Founder and Commander of Umkhonto we Sizwe(MK), the TERRORIST military wing of the THEN ANC party who are responsible for roughly 150-200 deaths and double that figure in injured people through bombings, planting mines etc, BUT the actual figure is said to be far more, but is unknown, so it can be more, or less. Then of course it also said, obviously, that he himself is not personally responsible for the death of any person, i.e. he himself never got his hands dirty. He was the president for heavens sake! And in true ANC fashion no president of theirs will ever, ever, ever, ever be a criminal! It's unheard of! He was only responsible for masterminding assassinations (dejavu?) and the planning behind the bombings. So although he ALLEGEDLY never pushed the button, squeezed the trigger or threw the rock it is still a undeniable fact the he was the commander of the military terrorist wing of the ANC, MK, who ARE responsible for the deaths of a couple of hundred people..Can you see where this is going? It all sounds so familiar..white Mandela, nice afrikaner surname like De Kock...Or do you need a picture to better understand the concept? South African historians, any historians here today? Sounds about right, right? Yes? No? Do I pass? Half right is still right? What's the going pass percentage these days? 30%? 20%? I do at least get some points for spelling Umkhonto we Sizwe correctly, yes? Not bad for a boertjie, nê?

      Fidel - 2011-12-15 13:46

      Drivel, mindless drivel, from start to finish. If you're going to make stuff up, at least try to be plausible.

      Ettienne - 2011-12-15 14:02

      I apologize. (Like REALLY) See, I've been rambling on and on and on, but it's all Fidel's fault. I decided in order to make this OK-ish Thrusday avie a GREAT Thursday avie that I will play a game. The rules are quite simple. Everytime Fidel uses the word PSYCHOPATH I must take a swig from the bottle, doesn't matter what's in the bottle as long as it gets you deliciously shloshed. Also, it's double shots for having to read drible written by people like yourself, lacostewannabe, martins something-blah-shblah, kamazibuko, musa, FIDEL (Again! with the patterns!! I seeee dumb peopleeeee...I'll take 3 shots for noticing that one right there! 1,2,3 blok myself!) Where was I? OH YES, also there are shots for words like colonialist, white people, racist, caucasians and few other select words, it's really up to you, not that I need any of the before mentioned words because I've already polished a bottle just on PSYCHOPATH alone! Of course if you find a sentence with at least 5 of the words mentioned in that one sentence and the word PSYCHOPATH, it's a bonus round and you have to down whatever's left in the bottle! Fun, right? Then, there's the ever present boobie prize! BOOOOOO! and that word is MALEMA. Oef, if you see that you have to give back what you just swallowed and start the game all over again!! Nooooooooooooooo, the horror!!!! EEEEEEK! I call it the MALEMA CHUNDER! Come on, give it a try, you know you want to. Fun for everyone!!

      Ettienne - 2011-12-15 14:12

      Fidel, it's all true, really, you can google it, wikipedia whatever you like. It's called H-I-S-T-O-R-Y. I'd have to admit, around the three quarter mark I started spewing drible but it was purely just to amuse myself. I had a good chuckle, no seriously, a little pee came out as I snickered at my own comic genius. It could also be the copious amounts of liqour I just consumed playing my new fun game inspired by you and it might be a good idea to take a break to go to the loo. No, definetely my comic genius, I'm convinced. It's true, life is fun.

      Ettienne - 2011-12-15 14:21

      Oe oe oe!!! Fun fact time! In Nelson Mandela's AUTOBIOGRAPHY, a long walk to Freedom, some of you may have heard of this book, he himself admits to orchestrating the 1983 Church street car bombing which killed 19 people, 17 Men, 2 woman, 9 white males, ...and here's the best part... 8 black males. So he not only killed innocent people, he killed indiscriminately, regardless of your race and color. Hau! Mr. PRESIDENT! tsk tsk tsk....

      Ettienne - 2011-12-15 14:27

      So Elle-Blacko-Supremo... Want some more fun facts? If all the words make your head spin I can always put in some extra effort, run down to the library and see if I can find a kiddies book depicting South Africa's history, complete with pop up pictures, big letters, fun colors, puzzles....you know, your bed time reading type 'o stuff.

      Blade - 2011-12-15 14:32

      Umkhonto we Sizwe spent most of their time murdering IFP supporters in the townships. They never tried to take on the security forces of the time. Fidel you obviously know nothing of South Africa's true history. Please do not comment when you can only regurgitate untrue ANC propaganda.

      Fidel - 2011-12-15 14:38

      I don't know if it is your ignorance of history or your naivety which is most appalling! You would have to be totally oblivious to history to believe otherwise. Where was Mr Mandela in 1983?

      Blade - 2011-12-15 14:42

      @Fidel where he belonged.

      Ettienne - 2011-12-15 15:30

      Fidel, you're such a douche. You're the Mayor of Douche Town, President of Al-Douche-ia, Planet ruler of ALA-DOUCHE, BUT... You are right OK, Mandela is wrong, he lied about the whole thing. He just Facebooked me now. He had nothing to do with the 1983 bombings. He just admitted to planning it and signing off on it (BEFORE, again, BEFORE, not after or during, BEFORE he went to his Island retreat. This is possible - they had the know how and savvie to PLAN things in advance. HAU!) because he just wanted to look bad-ass. He was jonesing for some Winnie steak back then and he knew he couldn't impress that murderous witch by going on his charms alone, so he had to lie about being a bad-ass, child killing, bomb toting, bad ass mthrfckr! It was the only way he could score some Beelzebab-Harpy-Barnabas-Arachna-Mania-Lilith-Banshee-Baal-Devil-Dragon lady puntang! aka, WINNIE.

      Beldered Matywatywa - 2013-12-24 04:48

      Malema for president so that we can throw all you racist pigs in Kimberleys big hole with landmines that explode on your landing.

      Beldered Matywatywa - 2013-12-24 04:58

      Elle & Etienne there's no place for narrow minded Nazi ideologyists like you & those poephol predecessors of yours in S.A. Go to Zimbabwe,Robert can use you guys are farmworkers or you can polish his shoes. They say revenge is better served cold so Mugabe served me as an S.A citizen well. You two need to unplug your thumbs from your behinds & get your facts straight.Madiba was on Robben Island in the 80's. You probably read ET's autobiography "pants down in hell".

  • Mary - 2011-12-15 13:06

    Seriously ppl...what crap is this about race? There is a man with feelings just like you and me. Just because he is whirte does not make him a monster. Just because he wsa paid by the apatheid government with your gr8 gr8 grandparents tax money to do as he was told, does not mean he enjoyed it! and no you cannot compare this man to Mandela...a man too gr8 to compared. And no you cannot compare him to Selebi or any other of our current corrupt politics who take us as south african citizens for stupids! But you can have a heart and know that if you were in his shoes, and the government that you have ever told you to kill and made that your job you would do it! whether it be your brother, sister, mother father or friend, if your government said you would do! So cut the guy some slack, he did what he had to to keep himself and his family safe...and that still does not make what he did right! But he is still a man with a heart and feelings and he deserves the benifit of the doubt from this "supposidly" united SA...

      davieoosie - 2011-12-15 14:29

      And not everyone he killed was black, he was ordered to take out the enemy of the time. The war was against communism, not the blacks. Now he is taking the rap. If prisoners of war(that war) should be kept in jail, where are the MK's that killed innocent members of the public in their homes and on their farms and on the roads?

      Tebogo Selai - 2011-12-16 09:00

      shame on u mary... sies man..

  • Blade - 2011-12-15 14:34

    Whatever crimes De Kock committed they pale in significance compared to the current genocide being carried out against white farmers, elderly white people and any other soft white targets.

  • Beldered Matywatywa - 2013-12-24 05:53

    De Koek didn't even serve a quarter of his 212 years & already wants parole. Is he too tired of sleeping on his stomach with his lily white bum next to black convicts. Tell you what...serve a 100 years then we can talk about your parole. Derby-Lewis is doing quite fine & if he too do another 100 then we can consider to agree to disagree. Kwaaaaaa

  • Beldered Matywatywa - 2013-12-24 05:58

    One of a few cops that wasn't racist Eugene? Give me break...so you were patriotic or loyal to poephol P.W Botha?

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