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Defend struggle songs, urges ANCYL

2011-04-11 08:39

Johannesburg - The ANC Youth League (ANCYL) has called on South Africans to defend struggle songs and support the league's president, Julius Malema, who will appear in court on Monday facing hate speech charges.

"All South Africans from all walks of life are called upon to come in their numbers to show support for struggle songs of the ANC, which in a manner reminiscent of apartheid, might be banned because of some unexplainable fears of some few people," said ANCYL spokesperson Floyd Shivambu on Sunday night.

The case, brought against Malema by AfriForum for singing the struggle song with the words "shoot the boers" on a number of occasions, begins at the South Gauteng High Court in Johannesburg on Monday.

The court has set aside 10 days for the matter.

"All heritage activists and practitioners, artists, musicians, and those who care for the protection of South Africa’s struggle heritage and songs are called upon to reject claims that ANC songs incite violence, whilst they do not," Floyd said.

Earlier on Sunday, AfriForum said it will distribute one million pamphlets countrywide as part of their marketing campaign to garner public support against Malema's hate speech.

"The marketing campaign includes the distribution of more than one million pamphlets to households all over South Africa, and advertisements on television, radio and various publications," lawyer Kallie Kriel said.

This was to stop the use of inflammatory slogans such as "shoot the boer" and hate speech in general by Malema, he said.

Comments
  • dribble - 2011-04-11 08:48

    could somebody please explain to this idiot (me)...what struggle are they cunrrently involved in that they need to sing struggle songs

      JMan - 2011-04-11 09:03

      Exactly...seeing that Julius was not even born during the first part of the 'struggle'...and busy failing woodwork in the last parts....

      Martin - 2011-04-11 09:05

      they struggling to govern the country properly

      Hans-Erik Iken - 2011-04-11 09:05

      The struggle to stay relevant? The struggle to be credible to voters? The struggle to stay out of jail? Take your pick.

      Logs01 - 2011-04-11 09:06

      The "struggle" is currently WITHIN the ANC. "Kill a Cadre" is more appropriate.

      Wincint - 2011-04-11 09:10

      You've got a better chance to get pregnant then get through to that idiot and his supporters.

      Lana123 - 2011-04-11 09:11

      ja mhaga.sabe....keep blaming everyone else...

      freedom - 2011-04-11 09:23

      @mhaga hamba! you know what in flippin 100 years from now idiots like you will still be in the bush! Its so sad that more blacks are unemployed now and in poverty than in the apartheid era! the only ones that are better off are your fatcat comrades, but you are to stupid to see this!

      wide awake - 2011-04-11 09:28

      They need to convince the nation that there is some sort of struggle to unite them, another way of shifting the blame to someone other than themselves. They need to cover their behaviour somehow, steal everything then make a struggle, next on their agenda is to take land, even though the money is there to uplift everyone, if they are stealing everything they still have to satisfy their followers. Not hard to see, Magabe style bull***t

      scud - 2011-04-11 09:28

      its the struggle to reach the mental age of 3

      wide awake - 2011-04-11 09:28

      They need to convince the nation that there is some sort of struggle to unite them, another way of shifting the blame to someone other than themselves. They need to cover their behaviour somehow, steal everything then make a struggle, next on their agenda is to take land, even though the money is there to uplift everyone, if they are stealing everything they still have to satisfy their followers. Not hard to see, Magabe style bull***t

      wide awake - 2011-04-11 09:29

      Easy to explain dribble. They need to convince the nation that there is some sort of struggle to unite them, another way of shifting the blame to someone other than themselves. They need to cover their behaviour somehow, steal everything then make a struggle, next on their agenda is to take land, even though the money is there to uplift everyone, if they are stealing everything they still have to satisfy their followers. Not hard to see, Magabe style bull***t.

      wide awake - 2011-04-11 09:29

      Easy to explain dribble. They need to convince the nation that there is some sort of struggle to unite them, another way of shifting the blame to someone other than themselves. They need to cover their behaviour somehow, steal everything then make a struggle, next on their agenda is to take land, even though the money is there to uplift everyone, if they are stealing everything they still have to satisfy their followers. Not hard to see, Magabe style bull***t.

      wide awake - 2011-04-11 09:30

      Easy to explain dribble. They need to convince the nation that there is some sort of struggle to unite them, another way of shifting the blame to someone other than themselves. They need to cover their behaviour somehow, steal everything then make a struggle, next on their agenda is to take land, even though the money is there to uplift everyone, if they are stealing everything they still have to satisfy their followers. Not hard to see, Magabe style bull***t.

      wide awake - 2011-04-11 09:32

      Easy to explain dribble. They need to convince the nation that there is some sort of struggle to unite them, another way of shifting the blame to someone other than themselves. They need to cover their behaviour somehow, steal everything then make a struggle, next on their agenda is to take land, even though the money is there to uplift everyone, if they are stealing everything they still have to satisfy their followers. Not hard to see, Magabe style bull***t.

      GeneralCS - 2011-04-11 09:38

      @mhaga.sabe - Dude it's been 17 years and the only reason there are so many poor people in SA is because of the lack of education. If there are so many wealthy black South Africans out there, then how can you blame the past? Black people chose to burn down schools instead of concentrate on educating themselves. In the past 17 years, what has the ANC done to alleviate poverty?

      Eric West - 2011-04-11 09:58

      STOP MALEMA! Please SMS the word STOP to 38655 to donate R10 to Afriforum's legal costs. It's worth every cent!

      Kpt_Keyboard - 2011-04-11 10:00

      TheEmperorWithan, u neva fail to amuse!!!!

      CygnusX1 - 2011-04-11 10:04

      @ mhaga.sabe...really? Maybe you should be looking at cutting the birthrate, as there is no country on this planet that can provide for the basic needs of people when you have a uncontrolled birthrate like we have here. Let alone lift them all our of poverty. Leave the "past racist" governments out of it, they are well and truey buried and dead.

      ArtGee - 2011-04-11 10:09

      Only struggle the ANC and ANCYL are involved in, is HOW MUCH THEY NEED TO STEAL!!!!

      eno2 - 2011-04-11 10:20

      Struggle against poverty? Julius Malema sings these struggle songs. Do you think he is poor?

      CheekySod - 2011-04-11 10:34

      They are just struggling. If you push a puppy to the left, the puppy will push to the right. Push the puppy to the right, and the puppy will bush left. The ANCYL is just pushing in the opposite direction than what AfriForum is pushing. Logic, right or wrong, ethics just does not matter.

      Roche - 2011-04-11 11:01

      "Struggle" and "Suffering" are a very large part of the black mind set or "psych" Reggae artists sing about it, black poets glorify it, almost to the point where the "suffering and struggle" are what gives life meaning.

      Thangy - 2011-04-11 13:09

      I would normally vote against this song being sung, however whites like @VuyosWors make the song relevant and as long as there are white ppl who openly express their racism (on the African continent) in the manner @VuyosWors does then there will always be relevance to this song and others like it.

      kleindeef - 2011-04-11 13:45

      @Thangy. But do you not see that you are putting yourself into the very same little frame, that you put "wors" into, by singing "your" song.

      Thangy - 2011-04-11 15:55

      @kleindeef Never said I sang it, just defended its relevance.

      mr mr - 2011-04-12 11:27

      Ayesab’ black amagwala (Black Cowards are scared) Dubula! dubula! dubula nge s’bhamu (Shoot, shoot, shoot them wit a gun) Dubul’ mnyama isilima (Shoot the black idiot) Dubula! dubula! dubula nge s’bhamu (Shoot, shoot, shoot them with a gun) Mama, ndiyeke ndidubul’ mnyama isilima (Ma, let me shoot the Black idiot) Dubula! dubula! dubula nge s’bhamu (Shoot, shoot, shoot them wit a gun) Ziyareypa mnyama lezinja (These black dogs rape) Dubula! dubula! dubula nge s’bhamu (Shoot, shoot, shoot them wit a gun)

      Staalbal - 2011-04-12 14:56

      The struggle to not get caught with their hands in the cookie jar The struggle to continue bulshitt!ng the public The struggle to continue thinking of new taxes to fu@k Joe middleclass The struggle to keep the masses uneducated The struggle to find new scapegoats and of course The struggle to pass woodwork

  • Byron - 2011-04-11 09:04

    Sue the racist out of Malemas ass!!

  • TheOwl1981 - 2011-04-11 09:04

    so we should support songs that divides us, instead of unifying us?

  • TheOwl1981 - 2011-04-11 09:04

    so we should support songs that divides us, instead of unifying us?

  • coolwaynie - 2011-04-11 09:07

    Struggle for what? To keep the fat belly from knocking over the table when sitting down to yet another giant KFC lunch at taxpayers expense..

      freedom - 2011-04-11 09:24

      what you mean kfc its caviar and whisky bro

      coolwaynie - 2011-04-11 11:18

      Hehehe...ja.

  • amabok - 2011-04-11 09:08

    Stop living in the past and start providing basic services to the 20 million poverty stricken citizens or hand over responsibility to the DA

      Martin du Plessis - 2011-04-11 10:07

      don't worry, the DA will get control of those areas in due course.

  • coolwaynie - 2011-04-11 09:08

    Struggle for what? To keep the fat belly from knocking over the table when sitting down to yet another giant KFC lunch at taxpayers expense..

  • Grant - 2011-04-11 09:09

    There is a tacit acknowledgment in his statement that they expect to lose this court case. They are then calling for the populace to protest against the laws and constitution of the land in the likely event of the courts ruling against them. What a future awaits our poor SA!!!

      Eric West - 2011-04-11 10:00

      @ Molop: Spoken like a true porch monkey!

      Mishka - 2011-04-11 10:34

      Please Eric, please, I ask nicely. I have a beautiful Marmoset which we rescued and I need to get rid of as I don't believe in their being captive. That not being the point - loyal, loving, giving are the three words I use to best describe him. Cannot be compared to this and the many other idiots on here.

  • paulf - 2011-04-11 09:09

    Please stop Dwelling in the Past!! The Struggle is Long Gone (17 years)!!!. Struggle Songs brings Division Instead of Unity!!! We are a Democratic Society Today, work on what will bring Unity in our Land for All!!! So Much for a Rainbow Nation!!!

      Eric - 2011-04-11 11:59

      This is not a democratic society, c'mon man wake-up!!!!

  • Riaan - 2011-04-11 09:10

    Spul Bobbejane!!!!

      Green Oaks - 2011-04-11 09:23

      Bobbejane are intelligent

  • Monde - 2011-04-11 09:10

    BULL MANURE!!! Fooling people once again, for what purpose "Professor" Malema?

      ArtGee - 2011-04-11 10:12

      Looks like Molop the Trolop(sic) had his STUPID PILL for breakfast! Bloody Racist Agent!

      Martin du Plessis - 2011-04-11 10:19

      And in steps exibit A to prove Mondes' point

      The-man-who - 2011-04-11 10:43

      When a black person responds he is racist. Yesterday the 10th April was the commemoration of Cde Chirs Thembisile Hani who was killed by a white agent in 1993. You claim to want unity yet you are calling black people names cause they don't vote for your DA, you are such hypocrits I must say and I must emphasize that the only way things will ever change is for people to stop this stupid thing of seeing everything as race and be the f*ckern change they want to see.

      MarkZwarts - 2011-04-11 11:22

      Molope.........only an "idiots" like you has such an amazing grasp of the english language!

      MarkZwarts - 2011-04-11 11:23

      Molope.........only an "idiots" like you has such an amazing grasp of the english language!

  • wide awake - 2011-04-11 09:10

    lol - more useless crap - that's all they are capable of - struggle songs lol - the only struggle is to get these useless corrupt racists to stop stealing, raping and murdering. They trying to find a scapegoat, reverting to old crap, none of thieves knows what a struggle is, they have stolen millions from the poor, cANCer scrap.

      Educated - 2011-04-11 10:16

      Molop, you came up with some new insults. Excellent man, you're making so much progress. Before you know it you'll even have all your maths timetables dusted. They grow up so quickly, don't they?

      wide awake - 2011-04-11 10:31

      Can't you accept the truth Molop, you and your cANCer are the only racists as well as corrupt useless thieves.

  • Long Range - 2011-04-11 09:11

    If its a struggle song you want to sing then start singing....'Study hard to pass matric' or 'Try harder to keep my job' 'Stop striking and do some work' 'Shoot the boer' is simply asking his followers to murder Afrikaners. That is a capital offence and against the law throughout the planet. Julius Malema is merely a halfwit that thinks he is praised. One day he will get what he asks for.....jungle justice!

      Long Range - 2011-04-11 10:17

      @Molopeanut... poor African majority? While the Zulu's and the Xhosa's were raping and killing each other you mean. The Afrikaaners were not attacking the kraals but actually defending themselves from the savages. Unfortunately thats the way things were, just like how the Ottoman empire conquered Constantinople. You now sit and cry over spilt milk and blame your current demise on history. Put down the grovelling wimper and try harder and working for a better future. The whites dont sing 'Kill the Bantu' because its a civilised race. They dont jump up and down everytime the times get hard. Your single brain cell that fires vote 'ANC' is failing you year after year. Try and get over yourself and accept what you have and try improve it, because the ANC are certainly not making it better for the blacks. Your mindset is very sad, if Helen Zille was black there would be a 99% following. But because of the small minded rut you are stuck in called 'anti white' you keep the ANC circus afloat.

      Totman - 2011-04-11 10:46

      @ Molop. It is unexplainable that the majority stole from our majority. How is this possible? There must have been reasons that made it able for minorities to be able to stole from majorities. [ it will be interesting to see if you can read between the lines and answer me properly without your stupid remarks done on all the comments in this blog.]

      Totman - 2011-04-11 10:47

      Sorry, I mend "minority stole from majority"

  • rico5602 - 2011-04-11 09:12

    Shame arme JUJU moet maar bad wees om so stupid te wees en dan is daar nog mense wat hom ondersteun

  • Dougalan - 2011-04-11 09:12

    Malema is trying to get a lot of public noise made to sway the result of the case. But it is clear: you CANNOT sing a song that talks about murdering another section of the population. It is divisive and inflammatory. It is past time that this infantile upstart got nailed good and proper. South Africa does NOT need people in any form of leadership like this, with his history of dodgy companies that charge millions and don't deliver decent roads etc. Who needs a 'leader' like this? The idea is totally ridiculous and so is the idea that such a song can be sung.

  • jammie.emanuel - 2011-04-11 09:13

    Kill the HIV, corruption and the oppression which is now BLACK!!! People must start voting for policies not skin colour!! I will not vote for ANC simply because I'm unhappy with the way they abuse power and no one can argue with that

      bokfan1 - 2011-04-11 09:32

      Wow! Wonders never cease! Someone has seen the light, through all the darkness!

  • Squeeze - 2011-04-11 09:13

    If we sing shoot the blacks. Would that be ok Malema. Because whites are the ones that are now struggling. You are still singing struggle songs from the past, what about the present. Come on DA, take these election away from these 'non beleivers'.

      GATVOL - 2011-04-11 19:13

      Please don't think the DA will save us!!!Helen is to busy learning to toy toy and trying to get black votes,only the FF has any hope of saving us!

  • wide awake - 2011-04-11 09:15

    Just another smokescreen designed to take the voters minds off the fact that they are stealing everything, keep them busy singing while you steal their money, pity South Africans are too gullible to notice, down into the sewerage but keep supporting the cANCer while they F***k you.

  • Badballie - 2011-04-11 09:16

    I don't see a single line in this so called struggle song that speaks of the peoples revolution or of the struggle itself, All I see is three or four lines dedicated to killing cowards and farmers, this is not a struggle song this is hate speech. The struggle was the best piece of communist propaganda ever to come out of the iron curtain and it was self serving for the western world to buy it hook line and natural resources

  • Hans-Erik Iken - 2011-04-11 09:16

    Mr. Shivambu, the people that brought this case to court actually represent a far greater amount of people then just Afrikaners here. When will you understand that a lot of South Africans are sick and tired of the same old blabbering about the struggle that ended in 1994 with the end of Apartheid. Nowadays the people care about service delivery, about a government free of corruption, a government that actually gives a damn about its citizens. People no longer want to hear songs in which they are called upon to kill another human being. There is enough violence in the country without adding more to it, be it in song, speech or act. People care about credible politicians, politicians who are believable and who do as they say and say as they do. People care about intelligent leadership that will bring this nation together and move it up in the world. The mr. Malema you are representing does tot fall into any catagory I just mentioned, does not do anything I just mentioned, and does not care about anybody else but himself, his cronies, personal power and wealth and his own twisted hate towards all who are not black. So no, thank you. We will not attend your protest rally. You can have it with your friends who are like him and yourself.

  • Born To Fish - 2011-04-11 09:19

    Wonder who are the Racists now?

      jammie.emanuel - 2011-04-11 09:38

      I'm Black and hate to admit it but Black people are the racist oppressors now!! They are even oppressing their own kind!! This country has so many scars and these songs will do nothing but re-open them again BUT White people aren't also innocent in this, I have overhead the conversations you have over braais when "no-one is looking". We all need to stop this crap!! There are White people who still see Black people as being sub-human which in turn fuels hate within Black people . I'm not angered by this but it's really disappointing but I do understand where the hatred for Black people comes from, the farm killings etc!! It’s a vicious circle!! We need to realize, Black and White, that we are now faced with a common enemy!! Greed, crime, lack f service delivery etc!! They are ruining our country! The Change we are looking for starts with you

      Born To Fish - 2011-04-11 10:03

      Well In my own Experience we do have those chats. Why do we have them. Just to see how black people behave on the road is excuse enough for us to think you are sub-human. Why do you ignore rules blatantly? Whenever you see yellow lane driving it is black people? Why is that?

      gizzy - 2011-04-11 10:24

      What a breath of fresh air! Wish more black and whites whould realise that we cannot move forward while looking back! The only fight we should all be in is the fight against this corrupt government. Just reading the Sunday Times yesterday made my blood boil. What has staying in 5 star hotels and visitng a girlfriend in a Swiss jail got to do with service delivery? These politicians are thumbing their nose at all in this country.

      gizzy - 2011-04-11 10:27

      What a breath of fresh air! Wish more black and whites whould realise that we cannot move forward while looking back! The only fight we should all be in is the fight against this corrupt government. Just reading the Sunday Times yesterday made my blood boil. What has staying in 5 star hotels and visitng a girlfriend in a Swiss jail got to do with service delivery? These politicians are thumbing their nose at all in this country.

      gizzy - 2011-04-11 10:27

      What a breath of fresh air! Wish more black and whites whould realise that we cannot move forward while looking back! The only fight we should all be in is the fight against this corrupt government. Just reading the Sunday Times yesterday made my blood boil. What has staying in 5 star hotels and visitng a girlfriend in a Swiss jail got to do with service delivery? These politicians are thumbing their nose at all in this country.

      gizzy - 2011-04-11 10:29

      What a breath of fresh air! Wish more black and whites whould realise that we cannot move forward while looking back! The only fight we should all be in is the fight against this corrupt government. Just reading the Sunday Times yesterday made my blood boil. What has staying in 5 star hotels and visitng a girlfriend in a Swiss jail got to do with service delivery? These politicians are thumbing their nose at all in this country.

      jammie.emanuel - 2011-04-11 12:17

      RE: Just to see how black people behave on the road is excuse enough for us to think you are sub-human.... I’ve seen White people driving in the yellow lane as well. Black people are the majority in this country are Black so obviously you will see a lot more Black people driving on the yellow lane. Not all White people obey the rules of the road. Do you honestly feel that this now warrants White people to hate Black people? Are you aware of the implications of your statement? Do you think this statement helps improve the situation we find ourselves in? I think these sort of statements only fuel the friction in this country just as much as the struggle songs Malema wants us to sing. Stop the old hate struggle songs and the hate conversations you have amongst White communities. Not only does this hate CRIPPLE our minds it also CRIPPLES our children’s minds as well!! There are decent BLACK people who make a meaningful contribution to this country so are they now going to pay for an idiot’s bad driving? This disregard for the laws of the road also irritate me as well but not all BLACK people are like that

      Rudi - 2011-04-11 14:49

      Ive actually thought about this over the last week or so. See the problem is that the demographic of the country cant be exptrapolated directly into the shitty driving incidents that we observe. I think black drivers must make up for 60-70% of the drivers in RSA. This would imply that 60-70% of all these incidents must be black people. Funny thing is, 90-99% of what i've seen are done by blacks. NOT because they are sub-human, thats a very nasty statement, but they disregard the rules and lack courtesy. Very very selfish.. sometimes I get the feeling that the "sense of entitlement" issue with our balck friends can be seen in their driving.

      Ching Ching - 2011-04-12 14:59

      Jammie is right. About all of the white people would like the blacks to "see the light", which is fine, but means nothing if whites don't either. Most of these comments on this forum is of little value, so together us whites and the blacks that "see the light" we can actually make a difference, rather than attack each other here.

  • Currie_Mafia - 2011-04-11 09:22

    We need to be patriotic & start new era struggle songs... "I Struggle to pay my rent, I Struggle without service delivery, I Struggle to pay for petrol, I Struggle to keep a straight face when I hear a politician speak, Struggle, struggle, struggle...c'mon all together now..

  • GeneralCS - 2011-04-11 09:23

    If the ANCYL wishes to maintain the "struggle songs" in the 21st century, and in a democratic and integrated society, then all they'll achieve is increased racial tension. Obviously they aren't intelligent enough to realize this. Any intelligent South African would not support such a thing.

      Ockert - 2011-04-11 10:30

      the intelligent are in the minority , the masses are being kept in the dark, and as unschooled as possible to control them and roll them out at election time, when they are made promises (which are never kept)

  • scud - 2011-04-11 09:29

    These babies can offer the country singing,dancing,trashing and dumbness

  • SamuelMabena - 2011-04-11 09:29

    We need to write and sing new struggle songs. The South African people are now struggling against the ANC who steal from our people. The ANCYL must go away, we all hate them and they have done nothing for this country.

      Martin du Plessis - 2011-04-11 10:25

      What molop? Rephrase please. It sounded like you just admitted to being russian or something.

      Vlooi - 2011-04-11 10:38

      @Martin du Plessis - you think it's Missing Agent Molop? Or as he liked to be called on the playground, Mad Agent Molop. Even got their own coded way of communication. Message for Molop - ITTS TIME FORR YOUR CIRCUMCISSION SON.

      wide awake - 2011-04-11 10:40

      Well put Samuel, that is the truth, they are trying to divide the country to create a smoke screen to cover all their corruption and stealing.

      ruadrauflessa - 2011-04-11 10:45

      He admitted to being an ANC git in support of racial tencion so that he can hide in the limelight and take what other people has worked for.

      ruadrauflessa - 2011-04-11 10:56

      He admitted to being an ANC git in support of racial tencion so that he can hide in the limelight and take what other people has worked for.

  • Desertrat - 2011-04-11 09:32

    Go to hell you racist vermin! Malema was never even part of the "struggle" MOST of the Youth League weren't even in Dad's Bag when the struggle was on! So pee off and go do what you do best! Murder, rape and steal!

      VuyosWors - 2011-04-11 10:44

      Forgiven us for what moron? For taking you out of the bush and providing you with western technology?

      VuyosWors - 2011-04-11 10:47

      @Molop yes you guys are good at murering, it takes five of you to murder an elderly white man. Why dont you try us one-on-one? Vermin. No wonder it was easy to rule over you for so long.

      MarkZwarts - 2011-04-11 11:29

      Molope you have nothing intelligent or even coherant to say so please go dance in the street with Monkey boy Malema and hopefully you'll all get hit by a large truck!

      cerveza - 2011-04-11 12:27

      @VoyusWors - you sound like a white Molop, I wonder how long it will take you to realise how similar you are

  • FalseGods - 2011-04-11 09:33

    Crazy stuff.

  • Rolie - 2011-04-11 09:33

    @mhaga.sabe - the poor are struggling because of your crooked ANC government. Open your eyes - Awuboni!!!

  • Mushin - 2011-04-11 09:35

    You cannot erase our history!!It's like saying the Jewish ppl should not commemorate the holocaust.......We have forgiven but do not force us to forget!!!Its not for you to we should stop singing our songs, it's us who will decide to stop when we chose so!! Viva!!!

      RITEsaidFRED - 2011-04-11 09:53

      @Mushin...what a stupid and irrelevant comparison. None of the Jewish people's songs call for the murder and slaughter of their holocaust oppressors, if fact they have numerous museums worldwide to remind everyone what happens when ideology like those of the nazis and those of the malemas in the wold are left unchecked!

      John-andrew - 2011-04-11 09:55

      then why must i stop calling you a k@##ir, i will decide when i will stop using it.

      Kpt_Keyboard - 2011-04-11 10:09

      eish mushin, good things comes to ppl who wait, so if u wait long enough u might get a brain!!! think about that.... whaha did u get that? "think about it" - with what?

      Educated - 2011-04-11 10:28

      Actually Mushin, it's not for you to decide when your primitive chanting should be stopped. The moment your uncivilised ways start affecting the civilised world, is when they need to be stopped.

      Martin du Plessis - 2011-04-11 10:29

      Yes, i distinctly remember several songs being sung by Jews across the globe calling for the slaughter of all Germans.... NOT. I fail to see how The Jews commemorating on a certain date to remember the holocaust all those years ago equates to singing a song which only promotes voilence, hatred and revenge (From both sides).

      Truth - 2011-04-11 13:26

      So Mushin, tell me, how many blacks were murdered by whites during Apartheid? Six million jews were exterminated during the holocaust with the sole purpose of getting rid of them permanently. Apartheid in contrast was not instigated with the sole purpose of exterminating blacks, it was meant (wrongly admittedly) as some form of separate development. During all the years of apartheid, 21 000 blacks were killed, of which 14 000 between 1990 and 1994, and of the 14 000, 90% were killed due to black on black violence. So, how many blacks were killed by whites simply because of their skin color? I can carry on in this vein, but I doubt you will see the light. Comparing the holocaust with apartheid is just not right. I suppose many black people grew up being told by the ANC or their parents how they were killed in their millions by the whites, worse thing is that they believe it.

      Jamesons - 2011-04-11 13:51

      So you support the killings on the farms then

      Gatvol - 2011-04-13 08:11

      Yes, history is important and should be commemorated. I bet you won't find any Jewish people in Berlin singing songs at mass gatherings implying that anybody should kill or shoot Germans.Why not? I guess they have the mental capacity to realize that it's inappropriate to do so.

  • Rumbler - 2011-04-11 09:35

    Why do the YL not rather focus on matters to uplift the poor, to benefit the country? Is it because they are only good at destructive things? Struggle with positive things? Its begining to look like that!

  • Gorilla - 2011-04-11 09:41

    Great way to get the support of white youth you've just asked for. What "struggle" are you referring to? Your struggle with reality?

  • jenny.presto1 - 2011-04-11 09:42

    The only "struggle" they are now involved in is a struggle with their over sized, overeaten boeps and pea sized "brains"

  • Green Oaks - 2011-04-11 09:44

    If Malema had dynamite as brains it wouldn’t be enough to blow his hat of his head. IDIOT !!!!!!

  • PAR - 2011-04-11 09:45

    I think it shows exactly how weak the ANC are that they do not stand up and tell this monkey to shut up. First he is taking the mines, then he is taking the land that the whites "took" without compensation, he wants to sing about shooting the boers (to me this includes all whites both English and Afrikaans and we do not necessarily have to be farmers - they are murdering us every day). The latest is the best i.e. if they do not vote ANC Mandela will get sick and die. He is so scared that Helen Zille may actually get in and run this country properly with everyone getting a share then he can no longer be the fat, greedy, useless leader of a Youth League that should be disolved and may have to get a real job.

  • Rince - 2011-04-11 09:54

    So I guess the boer version of "One township, One gunship" should also be accepted then?

      Martin du Plessis - 2011-04-11 10:31

      "One Cadre, one Luxury car, one carbomb"

  • Lizelle - 2011-04-11 09:56

    The struggle years are looooong gone, it is the new South Africa where the black people are ruling the country so why still sing the struggle songs??? My question is, if there were no wording of killing white people whould they still sing the songs???

      Martin du Plessis - 2011-04-11 10:32

      Probably not.

      Grey B - 2011-04-12 14:54

      Not

  • Lizelle - 2011-04-11 09:56

    The struggle years are looooong gone, it is the new South Africa where the black people are ruling the country so why still sing the struggle songs??? My question is, if there were no wording of killing white people whould they still sing the songs???

      wide awake - 2011-04-11 10:48

      Probably not Lizelle, all of this is a smokescreen, keep your followers busy with illusions while you steal the money destined for the poor. The cANCer of recent times have nothing good that they can promote, so they revert to old leaders who had integrity and a cause for a struggle. The only struggle in 2011 and the future is to stop this corrupt useless cANCer from stealing raping and murdering.

      wide awake - 2011-04-11 10:48

      Probably not Lizelle, all of this is a smokescreen, keep your followers busy with illusions while you steal the money destined for the poor. The cANCer of recent times have nothing good that they can promote, so they revert to old leaders who had integrity and a cause for a struggle. The only struggle in 2011 and the future is to stop this corrupt useless cANCer from stealing raping and murdering.

      wide awake - 2011-04-11 10:49

      Probably not Lizelle, all of this is a smokescreen, keep your followers busy with illusions while you steal the money destined for the poor. The cANCer of recent times have nothing good that they can promote, so they revert to old leaders who had integrity and a cause for a struggle. The only struggle in 2011 and the future is to stop this corrupt useless cANCer from stealing raping and murdering.

      wide awake - 2011-04-11 10:51

      Probably not Lizelle, all of this is a smokescreen, keep your followers busy with illusions while you steal the money destined for the poor. The cANCer of recent times have nothing good that they can promote, so they revert to old leaders who had integrity and a cause for a struggle. The only struggle in 2011 and the future is to stop this corrupt useless cANCer from stealing raping and murdering.

      wide awake - 2011-04-11 10:56

      The worst part is that their followers are blinded by the smoke screen and will only wake up once this is another sewerage dump.

  • Eric West - 2011-04-11 09:56

    STOP MALEMA! Please SMS the word STOP to 38655 to donate R10 to Afriforum's legal costs. It's worth every cent!

  • Druganov - 2011-04-11 09:57

    Malema and ANCYL will struggle forever. Their evolutionary path just won't allow that!

  • The Observer - 2011-04-11 09:59

    mhaga.sabe. Go back to your tree.

  • Ockert - 2011-04-11 10:00

    Still conning the Masses that the whites are to blame for everything (Like Mugabe, their current predicament of poverty and unemployment, and that the whites have everything, and they the top cadres are poverty stricken.. thats why they get away with a song, dance, and apple or orange at their mass rallies, where the masses get indoctronated for their votes.

  • morne.naude - 2011-04-11 10:03

    They are not struggeling! they are living in luxury!

  • AnanseYoYo - 2011-04-11 10:09

    This is sad. Instead of looking to the future and building a better, more unified SA, Malema is urging his followers to hold on to past hurts, Apartheid baggage, racism and hatred. This is not the way to make a positive change in our nation! We are terribly in need of leaders with a vision and uplifting ideas for a better future. We should stop breaking down the nation with hatred and division fueled by an inability to let go of the past and grow.

  • Stu - 2011-04-11 10:10

    I am in my mid 40's. I did my 2 year SANDF national service as demanded by my countries government from '86 to '88. If I were to single the marching "struggle" songs that we used to sing I would likely be locked up as the songs promote racism, therefore I do not try and sing them and for the same reason neither should the ANCYL be allowed to promote racist agendas.

  • Talitha Taljaard - 2011-04-11 10:11

    I just want to know if it's ok for him to sing Shoot the Boer, is it ok for me to sing De La Rey (that's been banned!)? If it's good for the goose, it should be good for the gander, right?

      Kenko - 2011-04-11 11:07

      Don't compare those two songs.The ANC is clutching at straws by doing that. De La Rey was a general who fought the English and he had no truck with blacks, and they are just trying to divert attention from their own bloodlust.

  • Daw57 - 2011-04-11 10:13

    I love the new South African flag. I love the new South African anthem. So ... don't misunderstand me - I don't WANT the old ones back. But - for argument's sake - what if one replaces the reference to "struggle songs" with "the old flag"? E.g. in the following quote "All heritage activists and practitioners, artists, musicians, and those who care for the protection of South Africa’s heritage are called upon to reject claims that the 'old flag' incite violence, whilst 'it' does not". Or in this sentence: "All South Africans from all walks of life are called upon to come in their numbers to show support for the 'old flag of the Republic of South Africa', which in a manner reminiscent of apartheid, might be banned because of some unexplainable fears of some few people". See? It's total rubbish in a new South Africa. So ... please ANCYL. Get with the program. "Kill the Boer" could make people uncomfortable. Wouldn't it be a sign that you're embracing the new South Africa if you say: "We realise that the struggle songs, although they are part of our heritage, make some of our South African brothers and sisters uncomfortable. So we will stop singing it in the interest of nation building and reconciliation." I will applaud this sign of goodwill, and think much more of the ANCYL. At this moment I think they're showing the proverbial middle finger to other South Africans - which is definitely not what Nelson Mandela would have done.

  • Kpt_Keyboard - 2011-04-11 10:14

    Bush: "Julius, did u know that we were the first ppl on the moon?" Julius: "No, but we are going to be the first on the sun" Bush: "That is not possible, its way to hot!" Julius: "Do u think i am stupid? We will go at night!"

  • Snow F Lake - 2011-04-11 10:15

    It's a disgusting and racist practice that is no less than incitement to murder and leads to murders, sung by all the racists in the ANC(YL)! You all have blood on your hands.

  • umlaut - 2011-04-11 10:15

    How can you defend a struggle song after achieving freedom ?. Singing it now is against the spirit of the constitution and reconcilliation. It is the singing of a battle song. Maybe this Malema is finding it a "struggle" to think. This call to defend the BATTLE SONG is an even worse offence and what is going to happen--? during the court case there is going to be hordes of supporters chanting the song (that he secretely ordered to happen) and it can lead to voilence if the police needs to disperse them. EXACTLY WHAT THIS RETARD WANTED----!! -- to destabalise the country and maybe to get him off the hook by the protest and pressure of gangs of trouble makers. Malema---it is 2011, the battle song era ended 16 years ago. Do you really want to harm SA more??? If he is to stand down now and admit this song should end, then he will achieve much more politically than to try and win his petty argument in court. The killing of farmers will escallate because of this and the blood on his hands will become thicker and thicker.

  • Thelma - 2011-04-11 10:16

    Why sing struggle songs if there is no struggle. Black people have everthing they fought for so why do they want to sing struggle songs? The poor masses should be singing struggle songs against the corrupt ANC government.