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Don't be forced into 'apartheid amnesia'

2012-09-11 22:16

Johannesburg - President Jacob Zuma is correct in saying the ANC government has achieved a lot in 18 years, while apartheid is to blame for delivery backlogs, the presidency said on Tuesday.

"There is a running narrative in the media that government has not achieved anything in 18 years," the presidency said in a statement.

"Any statement by government pointing out progress made is received with cynicism and hysteria, as it goes against the dominant script."

On Monday, Zuma told the SA Local Government Association's (Salga) special national conference in Midrand that South Africa had achieved far more in 18 years in terms of service delivery than any other country in Africa.

Non-delivery of services often had to do with problems inherited from apartheid, when large parts of the country had no form of local government, he said.

On Tuesday, the presidency said both these statements were factual.

"The president stands by every word and will repeat what he said at any given time.

"South Africa should not be forced into amnesia with regards to the experiences of the past, and the president will not be party to the apartheid denialism that is being promoted."

The presidency did not explain to which media reports it was referring.

Zuma said there had been "almost no local government system for black people before 1994, and no investment had been made in ensuring the economic or social viability of black residential areas before 1994".

"Part of the problem in finding ways to overcome the racist spatial configuration of services and facilities as well as underdevelopment... is the denial of the magnitude and impact of apartheid," the presidency said.

It said this denial prevented South Africans from understanding the challenges faced by the country, the progress made and what still needed to be done.

"This will not stop the president or government from communicating the progress made, and to point out as well the challenges that remain."

Comments
  • johnbee.esq - 2012-09-11 22:29

    Really boring... it's like a voting trump card! Two wrongs Mr President, DO NOT MAKE A RIGHT! Julle plannetjies raak nou op!

      mike.dufham.7 - 2012-09-12 06:27

      @max. Zuma and his type are still evolving. They have just recently stopped climbing trees

      heathway.master - 2012-09-12 09:36

      As can be expected, Government Propaganda and its spin doctors are moving into top gear as the National Elections approach. How about some statement on the billions upon billions of rands wasted in the lavish lifestyles and perks adopted by all management level personnel in the civil and municipal services, the billions upon billions lost in tenderneurship and corruption, the complete level of incompetence and crass stupidity of most Government and Municipal ministers and managers. The major culture of non payment of services for the majority of the population. Collapse of countries Education and Medical System etc etc etc. As usual blame the Governments pathetic performance on the old Apartheid Bogyman. The simple masses will however be completely bowled over by the Governments blatant lies, and will loyally get their vote again. After elections the Government will immediately get on with business as usual and the service delivery strikes will again start up and reach their usual levels of violence and anger. The country will again get the Government and Leader they deserve. My point will be totally confirmed by just how many comments to follow will back up what a fine Government we actually have, and how unfair and unjust we are to have the temerity to constantly level criticism at it. Brainwashing of the simple, ignorant and those unable to reason logically, is a major strength of the ANC.

      matla.motso - 2012-09-12 10:09

      Wow @max.renecke! Such hate for you fellow south African, how do you survive in Africa with such a warped view towards race? Race, like your views expressed, have no genetic basis and in fact was first used to justify social inequalities as natural. Dear sir, skin color is only skin deep.

      matla.motso - 2012-09-12 10:48

      @max.reynecke, @mike.dufham.7, hate or loathe zuma for his policies, his personality, his creepy chuckle, but not the color of his skin, this makes you a hypocrite and part of the problem!

  • sedick.gydien - 2012-09-11 22:33

    What a farce - as if the Presidency would ever disagree withe the President. They are one and the same.....maybe I don't agree with myself.......

      vincent.farrell1 - 2012-09-12 00:11

      I wonder when he is going to quote Shakespeare again. You know quotes like: To be or not to be Parting is such sweet sorrow Et tu, Brute? My words fly up, my thoughts remain below Nothing can come of nothing Oh happy dagger! Lord, what fools these mortals be One that loved not wisely but too well And thus I clothe my naked villany O coward conscience, how does thou afflict me! When beggars die there are no comets seen I come to wive it wealthily in Padua etc etc

  • rink.hals.1 - 2012-09-11 22:38

    Sure, you're right. Now what about the corruption in the ruling party? How much has that contributed to non-delivery of service to your own people? How much money has gone into personal bank accounts of local government officials? Once the country defaults on loans to China and the auditors come in, oh the lies they shall find.

  • tobydt - 2012-09-11 22:44

    MthondoIsizwe is really riding the apartheid card hard for his re-election. Obama should blame the slow recession recovery on apartheid too.

  • gavin.simpson.0 - 2012-09-11 22:45

    Just like cancer... got nothing else to offer to fall back to blaming apartheid. And I mean NOTHING else to offer.

  • michael.varikas - 2012-09-11 22:45

    You have got to be kidding me!! APARTHEID!! What more do you want. The entire goverment and decision makers are black.. They get given budgets that are allocated for all the people of South Africa not just blacks to enhance growth development and offer basic services and needs to all South Africans. You can't deliver textbooks, Education system is collapsed, healthcare system virtually collapsed, crime is up, murder rate is up, rape is up, rates system virtually collapsed, unemployment recoed highs, police service virtually collapsed, still haven't built promised homes and sanitation to the poor and you saying you have progressed in 18 years.. You have gone backward you prick!! You the president do some research. So sick and tired of hearing Apartheid!!

  • eugene.meyer1980 - 2012-09-11 22:46

    This is getting old now. Every time government buggers up it blames apartheid for it. The masses should by now wake up, open their eyes and see that apartheid has gone, and if its still alive...hmmmm...well who is running this country now??? By all means I agree apartheid did bugger up a lot in this country but 18 years is a long time to have sorted it out by now. How many townships could have had running water if dear ol Zuma decided that maybe, just maybe it would be a better idea to spend the billions on service delivery rather than on a mansion, plane, parties, wives, court cases, fancy cars, conferences...the list goes on but I think the picture is drawn. But the masses will keep on voting for "change". The ANC is right in their slogan "vote for change" because the only change the masses will ever see if they keep voting the way they do is the change they get from the street corners and traffic lights. Anyway, Im pretty sure we will see a lot of "apartheid" B!S and white people controlling the economy, and land grab B!S for the next couple of months. Its always like that when voting day comes close. By now its like a broken record player, yet the masses still loves that track.

  • pierre.walt - 2012-09-11 22:50

    Of course you will back him so that you can steal and corrupt longer.

      Halidi Orama - 2012-09-11 22:56

      thats totaly a lie,how times people voted 2 choose the party and president they wanted? Y ppo still voting for ANC f they knw tht it is not fulling its duties?

      winellen.nienaber - 2012-09-11 23:03

      Because it's not their families who is shot at like dogs, it's probably their families and friends and people in their sommunity who walks free. That's why. Any other government will spend money where needed, catch the criminals and keep them locked up. Wake up, look at all the strikes around you. Look at the crime rate, the economy (if you don't understand money matters look at the petrol price alone). What has changed for the better??

  • gedoente - 2012-09-11 22:51

    I guess if you have very low expectations then government have achieved a lot. But the ANC should rather thank Apartheid government, it was Apartheid that gave their followers such low expectations which will ultimately keep them in power

  • gavin.taylor.79 - 2012-09-11 22:56

    "South Africa had achieved far more in 18 years in terms of service delivery than any other country in Africa" The whole continent is a basket case, with just about every country having endured some form of civil war, ethnic cleansing, (man made)famine or humanitarian disaster. But....if it makes you happy Mr Prez, you're doing just fine. I guess top of the "special class" is also an achievement.

  • henk.tredoux.7 - 2012-09-11 23:05

    Nou wat nou? Genade Preszzz! Het jy oor die grens geloer? En n bietjie verder noord?? Van broers op die res van die kontinent, sukkel sedert hulle onafhanklikheid in die'60's - '80's om te "deliver" wat sukkel hulle so? Hulle kan egter vreeslik lekker "party" met die herdenking van hulle onafhanklikheid met "rent-a-crowd" en gratis Tshrits vir almal..... en dis waar dit bly! Word wakker!! Daar word geklop aan jou voordeur!! En dis nie apartheid nie....is jou tassies al gepas

  • sp.dutoit.5 - 2012-09-11 23:06

    If you blame others, you loose the power to change..

  • brent.goldwyer - 2012-09-11 23:18

    If you the (ANC) still can't roll a ball down the hill after 18 years, please don't blame apartheid for your inadequecies

  • Leah - 2012-09-11 23:22

    Zuma can repeat his statements till he is purple from head to toe, they will still not be true. Can somebody please explain \dominant script\?

  • jango.za - 2012-09-11 23:34

    LOL! and Comrade Mugabe is still blaming white farmers for his country's woes - all 400 of them left - and independence was in 1980. Now the next turd with a Std 6 is emulating the same story - 18 years into democracy.

      rocky.bell.927 - 2012-09-12 04:17

      Standard 6 ???????????? The person you referred has NO schooling - not joking. He was a herd boy and taken to a missionary school but decided to return to his former employment.

  • ron.samuels.129 - 2012-09-11 23:35

    who are you trying to convince?In more that 18 years your service delivery has gone down hill and you clowns still blame it on apartheid? Shame on you thieves,if this joke of a government would get rid of corruption and incompettency maybe there would be some money available for services but come to think of it most over the ppl in government would be without a job.So please,stop smoke screening the black masses and blaming your inability to do the job after 20 years on apartheid!

  • philip.mostert.14 - 2012-09-12 00:11

    Measuring yourself against The rest of africa is not an accomplishment, BEE has run its course it is time for equal opportunities. You should not be employed based on color but on merit .

  • rudi.botha.376 - 2012-09-12 00:31

    I support the president in everything he says and what ever he does. We all should support him - this is the quickest way of self destruction which is what the anc is busy with so - support them!!! Give them rope...the rest will follow.... Let us start a "no-respect-for-the-president" campaign!!!

  • Vince.York - 2012-09-12 00:41

    forked poisonous tongue of the next official "uguuh uguuh UGAUUH" language hard at work here, as the piglet trotters clap for more trender contracts hugely inflated at no less than 4000% more than market value but still not at levels acceptable to the racist anc and its youth

  • julius.mamputa - 2012-09-12 00:58

    You know, we as the people of South Africa are cowards, and weak, we have no movements as the people, lets just leave the government, we have a freedom to change the nation, but offcourse yes, we are still stuck in our differences, full of bull - pride hanging on our buttocks, for as long as we put our differences foward, our nation will forever fall behind.

  • sj.fourie.56 - 2012-09-12 01:03

    you and cronies always wanna know why whites are racist. well by your idiotic phrases blaming hendrik verwoerd (the man is dead why stil mention the poor guys name) and to be blaming apartheid for your failures as a father, president and so called leader. this country honestly needs a woman as a president. not a bunch of old has been outdated leaders. the sooner you depart the better for everybody. i love this country but i hate the utterences by you and your son sello malema. Id encourage investors to go invest somewhre else than south africa...we dont need people like you zuma...

  • kobuspeenz - 2012-09-12 01:04

    More Zuma propaganda...

  • adi.schlebusch - 2012-09-12 05:22

    Like every single other socialist leader in the history of the world - he blames the previous system for his own failures.

  • Theuns Jacobs - 2012-09-12 05:29

    is it also apartheid fault that u and your cronies are filthy rich and fat like pigs? at least life was good for some in the apartheid days, unless today!!

      Wally Walters - 2012-09-12 06:22

      ANC GOV please admit you are unfit to run any country not only SA The world knows it and they are also sick and tired for blaming it on apartheid

  • koos.strydom.923 - 2012-09-12 05:32

    I would like to put the following change forward to the current ANC slogan of "100 Years of selfless struggle", please be honest and change it to the following: "82 Years of selfless struggle and 18 years of self enrichment"

  • Muffin_man_can - 2012-09-12 05:43

    Unbelievable! He is always making excuses and always keeping quiet when he needs to take lead. Zuma has proven he is incapable of leading SA, he is the worse leader we ever had. Time to step down mr!

  • lana.crous - 2012-09-12 05:44

    Dude, you didn't take over 'local government for black people', you took over the local government in it's entirety, so your argument that it's apartheid's fault is not floating any boat. Stop playing the blame game and stop using our tax money to enjoy life and start working for the people that trustingly voted you into power!

  • steven.m.armour - 2012-09-12 06:14

    Zuma and the anc are a bunch of corrupt morons.

  • Phelamanga - 2012-09-12 06:15

    large parts of the country had no form of local government

  • aristar.aristary - 2012-09-12 06:20

    And so says the biggest racist of them all. After 18 years we would really love to forget about racism, but with the policies of AA, BEE and ANC it will never be forgotten or even put into history and only referred to in the history book. In my youth I fought for the freedom of all as I believed then and still do that people should be free to do what they want, but Mr Zuma and his cronies have engendered such a hatred of any other colour than themselves into the populace that that wish for freedom is along and distant memory. Maybe we will all be able to get along if our if the leaders actually acknowledge that we a re but members of one race - human. I am frequently ashamed of being called human, considering the cruelty and injustices the human race inflicts on other species and on other humans. But no matter, when the end of the world happens, and it will, there will be no favourites. The survivors will be the cleverest, not the stupidest.

  • jason.marriott.75 - 2012-09-12 06:22

    Because the obvious problems with corruption and nepatism and poor management of our mucipalities was because of apartheid....time is take responsibilty

  • Phelamanga - 2012-09-12 06:23

    "large parts of the country had no form of local government" - this is inaccurate. There were local government structures throughout the country, many of which were solely for the development of rural and township communities. It was during the period fro 1977 to 1994 that these structures came under increasing pressure and were eventually destroyed by the ungovenability campaigns that typified this period of our history, the hangover of which exists today in the refusal of large sections of the community refusing to pay rates and taxes.

  • klip.indiebos - 2012-09-12 06:23

    Typical of non-performers, rather blame others than be honest with the man in the mirror, and show out the 'good' that has been done rather than facing the brutal facts. A bit like an alcoholic - first admit the real problem and only then you will really fix it.

  • brandon.stephenson.946 - 2012-09-12 06:24

    Dear Mr. President ...... is Apartheid always going to be the ANC's excuse for thier inabilities to actually govern a country honestly ????????????

  • croix.mactee - 2012-09-12 06:28

    "The president stands by every word and will repeat what he said at any given time." - but repeating it will still not make it true. Allow full, thorough, incisive, independent AUDITS of all the assets of each and every one of the Hyena-elite, their friends and families, also internationally, and only then we can start praising what the ANC has achieved. IMHO you have wreaked far more destruction than did good for our land. And please stop comparing us to the rest of this continent-in-freefall.

  • sarel.esterhuizen - 2012-09-12 06:31

    One cannot move forward if one is constantly looking back over ones shoulder. As long as we don't accept our past and focus on building the nation together for the future SA will never prosper. The problem is that talk like this is used by the ANC to keep their voters loyal at the cost of radicalizing the country and sacrifizing

      sarel.esterhuizen - 2012-09-12 06:33

      Sacrificing unity.

      sarel.esterhuizen - 2012-09-12 06:36

      Sacrificing the unity of the nation. SA requires new, innovative, competent leaders that are not bogged down and obsessed about our past.

  • tim.nel - 2012-09-12 06:35

    Mr President, don't blame apartheid, look at the history books and see how quickly both Japan and Germany recovered after 2nd World War! They worked, and got on with it and they now some of the biggest power houses in the world!!!! And also please don't expect miracles if you keep on reducing the pass rate for school goers, what do you expect will happen?

  • vivian.harris.73 - 2012-09-12 06:35

    ANC had 18yrs to sort out any problems from Apartheid era, but focused on how to fill their pockets and appoint inept people as ministers instead. Billions lost on corruption and greed that could have aleviated these so called Apartheid problems. And stop blaming Apartheid FFS, start blaming yourself!! Its been 18yrs already. Japan rebuilt themselves after 2 atomic bombs in less time!

      vivian.harris.73 - 2012-09-12 07:16

      @goboza...that's exactly the problem....the black mans mentality. Japan worked together as a race, everything was destroyed and had to be rebuilt from scratch. ANC took over a working economy and just had to run the country and improve on what was there, but because of greed and corruption wasted billions ment to improve on what was left by apartheid. Its almost 20 years and ANC isn't doing a great job. You really think another 10yrs is gonna do the trick?

  • patrick.saunders123 - 2012-09-12 06:45

    in other words, don't forget to blame apartheid for everything.

  • frank.kistler.31 - 2012-09-12 06:45

    hehe....u reap what u sow....idiots..

  • paddy.carolan.35 - 2012-09-12 06:51

    Could somebody suggest that this idiot read about the achievements of Germany and Japan in their first 18 years after World War II. By 1963 they weren't blaming anyone for their growth. But then again he would have to read a real history book to get the information. Sadly there are none of those in South Africa, certainly not in the schools.

      vuyo.gugushe - 2012-09-12 08:22

      Don't forget the massive financial role played by the US and UK in supporting the rebuild of Germany and Japan after WW2. The importance of this financial support is made even clearer by looking at the difference in economic prosperity between West Germany, backed by the US financially, and East Germany, backed by the Soviet Union. Stark difference! The US and UK made it a point to support Germany and Japan after WW2 because of the lessons they had learnt from what happened in Germany after WW1. After WW1 the allied forces through the newly formed league of nations did not help Germany financially for the rebuild after the war, in fact they forced them to pay reparations for the war. If you look at Germany post WW1, without the support of the Americans, you will see a country very much similar to the economic conditions of a modern day Zimbabwe. So my point is that one cannot make a direct comparison between post WW2 Germany and Japan with a post apartheid South Africa.

  • monti.montanari - 2012-09-12 06:52

    Bugger the past Mr Tortoise What about the future We are sinking' Start patching

  • Kykweer - 2012-09-12 06:53

    That would only make sense if all gov departments sucked and if all municipalities were struggling... But there is still no accountability.

  • kobus.erasmus - 2012-09-12 06:57

    Yawn - let's blame apartheid again. Same old same old ....

  • douglas.reid.921 - 2012-09-12 07:03

    How much more would have been achieved if R600 billion was not lost to corruption. When little tenderpreneurs live big lifestyles and are above the law it is governments duty to get that money back for the people to whom it belongs. Zero tolerance for corruption should be the motto going forward. They did it in Botswana years ago. All the criminal schemers must be brought to justice and their ill gotten gains returned to the rightful owners, the people of south africa.

  • Zahir - 2012-09-12 07:11

    In 100 years time apartheid will be still be to blame and anc will get away with no delivery

  • slartibart.fast.9275 - 2012-09-12 07:12

    THE NEW ANC GOV SONG We went to our psychiatrist to be psychoanalysed To find out why we killed the country and ruined our children's lives He laid us on a downy couch to see what he could find And here is what he dredged up from our subconscious mind: When we were small the white man had a car with shiny wheels And so it follows naturally that we now have to steal We wanted to exact some recompence So now we hit them with incompetence Then later we saw some fatality so now we indulge in venality We saw there's power in the state That's why now we're petty potentates But we are happy; now we've learned the lesson this has taught; That everything we do that's wrong is always Apartheid's fault. (With apology to Anna Russel)

  • Rafels1 - 2012-09-12 07:14

    So 18 years after the devastation of the Second World War, would Germany still have blamed their own failures on the British or the Japanese blame it on the Americans? Did they ever blame anyone else, or did they work (!) hard (!) to rise from the devastation and become winning nations? Given working infrastructure, a thriving economy and a willing population in 1994, what have we achieved in 18 years? History will judge us harshly.

  • vivian.harris.73 - 2012-09-12 07:19

    @goboza...that's exactly the problem....the black mans mentality. Japan worked together as a race, everything was destroyed and had to be rebuilt from scratch. ANC took over a working economy and just had to run the country and improve on what was there, but because of greed and corruption wasted billions ment to improve on what was left by apartheid. Its almost 20 years and ANC isn't doing a great job. You really think another 10yrs is gonna do the trick?

  • john.cryink - 2012-09-12 07:22

    Amazing how back in the 1960 it was known wat will happen under an cANCer goverment. If we take away apartheid( good for every one it was done away with) maybe 1910. The cANCer took over the goverment at that time there would not have been a tar road between Pretoria and Johannesburg in 2012